Theory: The real reason the military forced soldiers to keep quiet about desertion accusations against Bergdahl

posted at 3:21 pm on June 5, 2014 by Allahpundit

I want to add something to Byron York’s piece today noting the unusual lengths to which the military went to enforce silence about the desertion speculation within Bergdahl’s unit. We got an e-mail last night from someone claiming to have served with Bergdahl, who says he ended up spending two months searching for him. (That search, he emphasized, damaged the counterinsurgency strategy at the time because it forced troops to intrude in villagers’ homes and carry out disruptive nighttime raids at a moment when they were trying to win hearts and minds.) I can’t prove that he is who he says he is, but you don’t need to accept his credentials to see merit in his theory: Namely, the reason the military was so keen to keep the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance quiet was because they feared the Taliban would kill him if word about his desertion got out. They were holding him, presumably, as a bargaining chip for prisoners held at Gitmo and/or cash; if the desertion theory was publicized, the Taliban might have concluded that there’s no way America would give up much to get Bergdahl back (wrong!), in which case they might as well behead him and get some propaganda value out of him instead. The military forced guys to sign nondisclosure agreements, in other words, to protect Bergdahl’s life, not to spare itself from embarrassment.

It’s one thing to enforce silence among the troops, though, and another to deceive Congress. What about the note that Bergdahl allegedly left, which not even members of the Senate Intelligence Committee heard about until this week? Surely wanting to tamp down public speculation about desertion doesn’t justify withholding evidence from key players in the legislature.

As it turns out, according to the White House, there is no note:

That’s verrry curious, since it’s not just the NYT that has sources claiming the note exists. Fox News was also told that Bergdahl had left a letter, one that not only supported desertion but which hinted that he wanted to renounce his citizenship. Either multiple sources are lying to multiple news agencies about the existence of a note or the White House is lying to Chambliss and Congress in denying it. And if it’s the NYT/Fox sources are lying, why didn’t they lie more brazenly? They could have concocted the text of the phony note, making it as damning to Bergdahl as they like, and then fed it to one or both of them. They didn’t. Why not?

Since we’re theorizing here, and since lefty defenses of the prisoner swap thus far have been either deeply stupid or viciously nasty, let me try my hand at a better one: What if Bergdahl had some sort of mental break that led him to try to escape the base? I don’t mean combat stress or PTSD; lots of people have mental episodes caused by factors unrelated to that. The Afghan villagers who spotted Bergdahl making his way towards the mountains told WaPo that he seemed to be “in a haze” and assumed he might have been smoking something. Maybe he was having a mental crisis that had been building for awhile, replete with increasingly urgent e-mails to his father about chucking it all before he left. I’m not endorsing this theory; logically, it seems to me, there would have been other signs of mental distress noticed by members of his unit before Bergdahl went AWOL and there have been no reports of that. My point is, if you’re a liberal stuck between arguing “conservatives hate POWs!!1!” and “maybe the men accusing Bergdahl are psychopaths,” you’re probably better off trying out a “maybe he just snapped” theory instead.

In case you missed it last night, here’s James Rosen telling Hugh Hewitt about the rumors inside the intel community that Bergdahl might have collaborated with the Taliban. If that’s true, though, how long did he collaborate? According to the Daily Beast, he tried to escape from captivity twice.


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Are they going to kill Catherine Herridge and Michlle Malkin too, for telling the truth?

This fan has a lot of crap on it and we haven’t even seen a smidgeon of it displayed, mark it.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:25 PM

H/t Resist We Much

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Either multiple sources are lying to multiple news agencies about the existence of a note or the White House is lying to Chambliss and Congress in denying it.

Oh, I think we can figure out who’s lying. Three guesses and the first two don’t count.

rbj on June 5, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Pelosi’s daughter wants the talkers investigated and punished. She fits well into the Pelosi-Mafia family, same as Harry Reid’s.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:28 PM

What if Bergdahl had some sort of mental break that led him to try to escape the base? I don’t mean combat stress or PTSD; lots of people have mental episodes caused by factors unrelated to that.

Bergdahl went AWOL twice before: Once when he was still stateside and again when he was in Afghanistan.

If he was having ‘mental breaks’, don’t you think that something would have been done prior to 30 June 2009?

As to the note, his platoon mates claim that they saw it and it was mentioned in the press years ago.

I guess everyone is just making up shit because ‘there’s a black man in the White House’ and they are a bunch of ‘psychopaths’ or something.

Of course, we could go with Jim56′s theory that Fox News has been paying all of these platoon members and ‘senior Pentagon officials’ to say all of this, which obviously means that Rupert Murdoch may be the only man in the world with a time machine considering that they have been saying it for years. All of these people, evidently, knew that Obama would make this bone-headed trade one day so they reported Bergdahl’s actions and statements 5 years ago./

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

The truth? The truth is still being avoided like the plague by everyone involved. The Truth is that Barack Obama gave 6 million dollars to 5 Taliban 4 Star Generals and put them right back on the battlefield in exchange for a deserter, collaborator and traitor.

Barack Obama gave aid and comfort to the enemy, that is legally the definition of TREASON. That is the truth that everyone is scared shitless of admitting.

oscarwilde on June 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Namely, the reason the military was so keen to keep the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance quiet was because they feared the Taliban would kill him if word about his desertion got out.

Yet honorable soldiers have been beheaded, tortured, and worse.

If Bergdahl is a traitor, and colluded with Al Queda, he should have been left to rot, or better yet allowed to suffer a traitors fate.

portlandon on June 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Hastings’ car didn’t keep its silence agreement either.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

That fan is getting so sticky with turds it won’t be long before the motor burns out.

Diluculo on June 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Probably the fact that Obama was trading a broken arrow for 5 of his terrorist friends?

viking01 on June 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

And if it’s the NYT/Fox sources are lying, why didn’t they lie more brazenly? They could have concocted the text of the phony note, making it as damning to Bergdahl as they like, and then fed it to one or both of them. They didn’t. Why not?

Because Dan Rather can barely sign his own name anymore.

de rigueur on June 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

The Michael Hastings story is scary.

House of Cards on steroids.

LASue on June 5, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Namely, the reason the military was so keen to keep the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance quiet was because they feared the Taliban would kill him if word about his desertion got out.

So why not tell the soldiers at the time that’s why you were having them sign NDAs?

xblade on June 5, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Sorry, but I find that hard to believe….Was it worth the deaths of honorable soldiers risking their lives to save a deserter?I guess it would have looked bad for Obama if a Soldier was beheaded on TV. Elections and all…. Makes me even angrier if this is the case…

sandee on June 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM

the Taliban might have concluded that there’s no way America would give up much to get Bergdahl back

Well, when he first joined them, they didn’t yet know what kind of pu$$y we had in the WH.

dentarthurdent on June 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Namely, the reason the military was so keen to keep the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance quiet was because they feared the Taliban would kill him if word about his desertion got out.

This isn’t a new theory. I saw this floated somewhere else earlier in the week, and it is plausible.

As it turns out, according to the White House, there is no note:

Just like they turned over all relevant emails relating to Benghazi. They are lying because lying is their MO. When the note turns up (in email form) they’ll say “Oh. We thought you meant a pen and paper note, not an email.”

The Afghan villagers who spotted Bergdahl making his way towards the mountains told WaPo that he seemed to be “in a haze” and assumed he might have been smoking something.

You’ve never seen a person who was nervous when confronted with the unknown?

NotCoach on June 5, 2014 at 3:34 PM

S. Rept. 113-44 – NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2014113th Congress (2013-2014)

122
Report on whereabouts of Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl

Not later than September 30, 2013, the Secretary of Defense
shall submit to the congressional defense committees an unclassi-
fied report, with a classified annex, regarding the status of the
search for U.S. Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl who was captured
by the Taliban on June 30, 2009, in Paktika Province in eastern
Afghanistan. The report should include Sergeant Bergdahl’s sus-
pected whereabouts, his likely captors, and what efforts are being
made to find and recover him.

http://beta.congress.gov/113/crpt/srpt44/CRPT-113srpt44.pdf

canopfor on June 5, 2014 at 3:34 PM

The only way this mental snap theory has any cred, is that he did have an even more mentally disturbed father sending him emails and letters egging on his son’s thoughts about hurting the poor Afghan children.

Vigilante on June 5, 2014 at 3:35 PM

And what about the stories in our media pretty soon after it happened. They said he was a probable deserter. The “captors” wouldn’t have gotten that info somewhere?

sandee on June 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Who has the history of lying here, the soldiers on the front line at Berg’s base or the White House.

Sorry but I’m just not buying it, these aholes are lying about whether they talked to Harry Reid and when, they can’t even keep the little lies straight.

Bishop on June 5, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Just a note, at the end of the Korean War some American POWs chose to stay in North Korea. What frigging idiots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_and_British_defectors_in_the_Korean_War

SC.Charlie on June 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Bergdahl went AWOL twice before: Once when he was still stateside and again when he was in Afghanistan.

If he was having ‘mental breaks’, don’t you think that something would have been done prior to 30 June 2009?

As to the note, his platoon mates claim that they saw it and it was mentioned in the press years ago.

I guess everyone is just making up shit because ‘there’s a black man in the White House’ and they are a bunch of ‘psychopaths’ or something.

Of course, we could go with Jim56′s theory that Fox News has been paying all of these platoon members and ‘senior Pentagon officials’ to say all of this, which obviously means that Rupert Murdoch may be the only man in the world with a time machine considering that they have been saying it for years. All of these people, evidently, knew that Obama would make this bone-headed trade one day so they reported Bergdahl’s actions and statements 5 years ago./

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

How could you leave out the Kochtopus?

tanked59 on June 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM

The military forced guys to sign nondisclosure agreements, in other words, to protect Bergdahl’s life, not to spare itself from embarrassment.

It was never an embarrassment NDA. One of those soldiers laid it out in a series of tweets.

They were negotiating with Haqqani or the original group who had him. Once the media got hold of the story, the jihadi’s took him off-line.

As for his mental state, it’s pretty clear what happened.

He thought, like his dad, that all we needed was for someone from America to start pure outreach as a way to counteract our imperialism.

Then the jihadi’s would see how the American people were no different then they were and a real peace accord would open. His father has indirectly said as much several times.

It’s the Michael Moore version of the world, but Beau was mugged by reality.

Just look in Beau’s eyes, that’s not crazy. That’s the look someone gets in prison once they encounter the new system. It’s not about captivity, it’s about being someone’s btch.

The Tali guys instantly knew he was a flake, so they had to do very little to get him to cough up whatever he knew. They didn’t kill him because he had more value alive to Haqqani.

Someone would eventually pay for his release, and they’ve seen the US reaction when you video-sacrifice one of ours; we hunt you down. So why bring that heat?

IMO, Haqqani expected either the Afghan, Paki or UAE to buy him. I have a feeling the US told them no, but we’ll never find out.

budfox on June 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM

I think the Obama camp is also waging a war of dis-information and planted false stories to create a fog around this whole thing.

redguy on June 5, 2014 at 3:41 PM

And what about the stories in our media pretty soon after it happened. They said he was a probable deserter. The “captors” wouldn’t have gotten that info somewhere?

sandee on June 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM

I went back and looked and the Pentagon tried to refute the deserter meme at the time. But the story of his desertion did leak out fairly soon after he deserted despite the NDAs.

NotCoach on June 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM

The Afghan villagers who spotted Bergdahl making his way towards the mountains told WaPo that he seemed to be “in a haze” and assumed he might have been smoking something. Maybe he was having a mental crisis that had been building for awhile, replete with increasingly urgent e-mails to his father about chucking it all before he left.

It’s going to be pretty hard for Bergdahl, and his defenders, to make that argument appear credible after Bergdahl made a videotape as a “hostage” in which he claimed that he had been captured when he lagged behind his unit while they were out on patrol.

If he really had just “snapped” from stress and unintentionally wandered out of camp, then why make up the lie about being captured while out on patrol? (We know Bergdahl’s story is a lie because his unit members have confirmed that there was no patrol the night Bergdahl disappeared). Bergdahl’s lie shows consciousness of guilt, which is inconsistent with the theory that he just “snapped” and didn’t know what he was doing.

AZCoyote on June 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM

This is ridiculous on several grounds. First of all, if it ‘got out” that Bergdahl was a deserter, that would be a huge propaganda coup for the Taliban. Far from killing him, they would make endless videos featuring the American deserter.

Secondly, the Taliban didn’t know he was a deserter? It was pretty obvious to anybody who looked at the press accounts — certainly after Michael Hastings’ piece in Rolling Stone, which has never been challenged for accuracy.(Hastings was a member of the radical anti-war left, and like Barack Obama, Susan rice, Valerie Jarrett et al, thinks Bergdahl is a hero BECAUSE he deserted, not in spite of it).

str8tface on June 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Maybe he was having a mental crisis that had been building for awhile, replete with increasingly urgent e-mails to his father about chucking it all before he left.

A good father would have contacted his commander, alas. This schmuck replied “follow your conscience”.

My point is, if you’re a liberal stuck between arguing “conservatives hate POWs!!1!”

Bergdahl was NEVER registered as a POW, because the Army knew all along that he defected.

and “maybe the men accusing Bergdahl are psychopaths,” you’re probably better off trying out a “maybe he just snapped” theory instead.

Yeah, leftists, like all the gun-incidents in America…let them be…nothing to see here…

Boomeranggate
is one to behold, and it has just begun.

In 2012 obama declared the Haqqanis a terrorist org. Now he traded the future cabinet of Afghanistan with them. No wonder the Afghanis are all rattles.

Every single American is now more in danger, military or not.

Meanwhile the Carabell of all presidents plays Ronald Reagan at Normandy’s 70th anniv.

Today it’s 10 years since Ronald Reagan died.

obama is not allowed to spit on his shoes, nor should he walk in his path.

Rest well president Reagan.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Sorry, this was a quote from AP

My point is, if you’re a liberal stuck between arguing “conservatives hate POWs!!1!”

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM

The Oath doesn’t include an obligation to lie to the American People (to whom the oath of office is actually sworn to)…

ConstantineXI on June 5, 2014 at 3:46 PM

No wonder the Afghanis are all rattles rattled.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Meanwhile the Carabell of all presidents plays Ronald Reagan at Normandy’s 70th anniv.

Where’s that bolt of lightening when you need it?

sandee on June 5, 2014 at 3:46 PM

If anyone is brave enough to tackle the shiite over at FireDogLake you’ll see them smearing Berg’s unit as a bunch of raging, out of control, losers.

The narrative has been set and now it’s being put in motion; Berg will be the next Private Manning, and back to business maligning the military as a herd of brainwashed baby-killers.

Bishop on June 5, 2014 at 3:47 PM

If he really had just “snapped” from stress and unintentionally wandered out of camp, then why make up the lie about being captured while out on patrol? (We know Bergdahl’s story is a lie because his unit members have confirmed that there was no patrol the night Bergdahl disappeared). Bergdahl’s lie shows consciousness of guilt, which is inconsistent with the theory that he just “snapped” and didn’t know what he was doing.

AZCoyote on June 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM

I think the Jihadi’s told him to say that so they would look tough. I mean, the actual story makes them look comical.

budfox on June 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM

there’s no way America would give up much to get Bergdahl back

…they didn’t know they had an anti-American in the White House?

KOOLAID2 on June 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM

According to the Daily Beast, he tried to escape from captivity twice.

Sure he did. When he bowed on the carpet and the Haqquanis got him from behind he realized they were not the Taliban he sought. It was bloody after.

The biggest mistake is that this fool was ever recruited. Sure they’ll play the “mental PTSD” to the end.

But what is obama’s problem?

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Saxby Chambliss also said he couldn’t believe anything that the WH tells him…

d1carter on June 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

If obama wouldn’t have frucked the relationship with Pakistan he could have gone after this fool.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

They’ve got a huge pile of laundry to do to clean this guy up….

d1carter on June 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM

The narrative has been set and now it’s being put in motion; Berg will be the next Private Manning, and back to business maligning the military as a herd of brainwashed baby-killers.

Bishop on June 5, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Yeah, but obama loves the Soldiers and Afghanistan is the “good war” and he hates “signing agreements” and he’s for “fixing the VA”. It’s all on tape, stupid Rs. Fight like sissies and lose, every time. YOU deserve NO more, not you Bishop, they, the R-turkeys.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:53 PM

TimeLine:

[PDF]
Timeline of Bowe Bergdahl’s Ordeal – Times-News
magicvalley.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/…/538ac0817f987.pdf.pdf
4 days ago – military asked the Bergdahl family to keep the story quiet as news reports could hurt rescue efforts. July 18, 2009 … April 7, 2010 … sergeant.
===========================

http://magicvalley.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/eedition/e/99/e993a6cb-2c4e-5a2b-a328-d8a1d1e98377/538ac0817f987.pdf.pdf

canopfor on June 5, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Of course, we could go with Jim56′s theory that Fox News has been paying all of these platoon members and ‘senior Pentagon officials’ to say all of this, which obviously means that Rupert Murdoch may be the only man in the world with a time machine considering that they have been saying it for years. All of these people, evidently, knew that Obama would make this bone-headed trade one day so they reported Bergdahl’s actions and statements 5 years ago./

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

A theory that bequeaths superpowers on Rupert Murdoch?

That’s the one I’m going with.

Bigbullets on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Bergdahl went AWOL twice before: Once when he was still stateside and again when he was in Afghanistan.

If he was having ‘mental breaks’, don’t you think that something would have been done prior to 30 June 2009?

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

In the aftermath the Wikileaks Task Force or WTF (DoD’s most appropriately named committee ever) determined that Bradley Manning’s superiors didn’t want to take him on deployment.

I’m thinking there is a problem with political correctness in the Army. Once filled with warriors, the Army is now a place where a committed radical Jihadist gets transferred to Fort Hood instead of being booted out of the service. I can easily see Bergdahl’s mental shortcomings being noted but no precluding him to go into a high stress environment (no matter how many other soldiers that endangers).

Happy Nomad on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Idaho was smart to cancel that homecoming. It would have been a disaster for the state.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Pure speculation. The Army did an investigation and decided he was in fact a Deserter but for some reason never declared him one.

I have a theory why they did not declare him a Deserter, they did not want any publicity about him and his status getting out. They did not want to declare a soldier in a Combat Zone a deserter for PC reasons. That IMO is probably what really happened.

Johnnyreb on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

NONSENSE

reliapundit on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

There’s even one commenter over there who alleges that John McCain wasn’t really a POW.

I’ll go get a drink real quick. A big one.

Bishop on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

I’d like a forensics team to go over Bob Bergdahl’s computer with a fine tooth comb.

ctmom on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

I’m going with the theory that Bergdahl should have been allowed to be a ballerina.

It was a big mistake to recruit him.

Once there, the next theory is that the current military is full of sissies.

PC will kill us all. Just a matter of time.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Meanwhile the Carabell of all presidents plays Ronald Reagan at Normandy’s 70th anniv.

Ah yes, Barack Hussein Obama’s oratory commemorating the 70th anniversary of D-Day…

…noting the brave men of Pont-du-Hoc…

What difference does it make!
the guns they were supposed to take out were not emplaced….

…noting the brave airborne troops who took 40% casualties jumping into Normandy….

What difference does it make!
the Germans never moved their reinforcements forward…

noting the bravery that was commonplace on the killing ground of Omaha Beach…

What difference does it make!
The Soviet Army defeated the Nazi war machine….

Welcome to the ‘What difference does it make’ Administration….it’s change we all can believe in.

Athos on June 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Ludicrous, way over analyzed…

PatriotRider on June 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

I saw CNN earlier beginning the sanitizing process…they had interviewed an Aghan local who saw Bergdahl beaten up…so there.

d1carter on June 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Innocent until proven guilty is the foundation of the American justice system. I will keep my inner nancy grace locked up until I get more facts.

coolrepublica on June 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Once there, the next theory is that the current military is full of sissies…beginning with the very top.

The good generals have been retired by obama. The rest are political flacks, PC morons.

The military is today all gay
Any which way.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM

If he was having ‘mental breaks’, don’t you think that something would have been done prior to 30 June 2009?

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Unfortunately that assumption is faulty. The unit I deployed with to Iraq had one of the worst boozers I’ve ever seen. Everyone knew about it. This ungendered person routinely missed formations, marches, etc. and was noticeably impaired. Despite numerous complaints, our unit commander shrugged it off with an “ungendered sailors will be ungendered sailors” attitude.

During a training exercise in Kuwait, this person wandered off one of those small training camps into the desert and was brought back by the Kuwaiti National Police. Only when we made it into Iraq were we finally able to rid ourselves of this no-load when that ungendered person got violently ill from drinking too much Listerine.

That is my tiny unimportant example. I’m sure others have much worse.

dreadnought62 on June 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM

According to the Daily Beast, he tried to escape from captivity twice.

Well, I’ll be darned. I was just talking to a guy about this.

butch on June 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM

The narrative has been set and now it’s being put in motion; Berg will be the next Private Manning, and back to business maligning the military as a herd of brainwashed baby-killers.

Bishop on June 5, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Is all the military brainwashed baby-killers? Or is that just an MOS?

Happy Nomad on June 5, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Barack Hussein Obama

tanked59 on June 5, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Harry Reid is the only one allowed to make pronouncements, without the facts. So are the flacks at the WH, at state…just not anyone else.

Facts are hard, but they’ve been there since 5 years ago.

Go to Hades all you obama-chit consumers. I hope the non-Beluga chokes you all. It w/b the ultimate irony.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Why would the WH lie about something like that…………………………………..?

d1carter on June 5, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Wait for it. Wait for it. “War on Vets”

Sven on June 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Innocent until proven guilty is the foundation of the American justice system. I will keep my inner nancy grace locked up until I get more facts.

coolrepublica on June 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Did O.J. kill Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman?

NotCoach on June 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Why would the WH lie about something like that…………………………………..?

d1carter on June 5, 2014 at 3:59 PM

And why would you believe a single word from this WH against the Soldiers?

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I’d like a forensics team to go over Bob Bergdahl’s computer with a fine tooth comb.

ctmom on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

ctmom: Agreed:)
==================

So I ponder,

Bowe sent his computer back to the States:

Did he pilfer any sensitive Military Goodies.

Can Bowes computer be plugged in at home and,

,,,can Bowe access his home computer from AfghanyStan,
to retrieve (alleged pilfered goodies)

Now,

is NSA in OverTine, in looking into every communications
from Bergdahl,

or communications of Bergdahl Tolly-Bon chatter!

canopfor on June 5, 2014 at 2:42 PM

canopfor on June 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

The leftists only like one type of Soldiers, the dead ones.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

That is my tiny unimportant example. I’m sure others have much worse.

dreadnought62 on June 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Actually, I can’t think of anything worse than going into a combat zone with a unit member who clearly doesn’t have your back.

Your example has an individual who clearly was unfit for duty in Iraq but nobody wanted to say anything and he/she/it became somebody else’s problem instead of doing the right thing. That’s the same mentality that sent Nadal Hassan to Fort Hood.

Happy Nomad on June 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

As Harry Reid does, we can claim anything too.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 4:02 PM

The leftists only like one type of Soldiers, the dead ones.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

True. I remember the way the Congressional Dems would ring a bell and do a happy dance whenever the death toll in Iraq or Afghanistan passed a certain milestone number.

Happy Nomad on June 5, 2014 at 4:03 PM

I’d like a forensics team to go over Bob Bergdahl’s computer with a fine tooth comb.

ctmom on June 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

ctmom: Agreed:)
==================

So I ponder,

Bowe sent his computer back to the States:

Did he pilfer any sensitive Military Goodies.

Can Bowes computer be plugged in at home and,

,,,can Bowe access his home computer from AfghanyStan,
to retrieve (alleged pilfered goodies)

Now,

is NSA in OverTine, in looking into every communications
from Bergdahl,

or communications of Bergdahl Tolly-Bon chatter!

canopfor on June 5, 2014 at 2:42 PM

canopfor on June 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Agreed!

tanked59 on June 5, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM

My point exactly.

d1carter on June 5, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Innocent until proven guilty is the foundation of the American justice system. I will keep my inner nancy grace locked up until I get more facts.

coolrepublica on June 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

You obviously don’t give the appetites of cable TV 24/7 news enough credit. He’ll b e rolled labeled, stamped flat and tied up in a tidy knot by August. Viewing audiences demand instant gratification. I’m hoping Megan or Greta can get the goofy father on for some entertainment. Maybe he can say a prayer or two: extend an open hand across the sea,..that kind of stuff….

butch on June 5, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Anyone know the whereabouts of GEN Stanley McChrystal, time to get him on the witness stand under oath.

D-fusit on June 5, 2014 at 4:10 PM

True. I remember the way the Congressional Dems would ring a bell and do a happy dance whenever the death toll in Iraq or Afghanistan passed a certain milestone number.

Happy Nomad on June 5, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Yep, they were all over CSpan celebrating those grim milestones with press conferences.

Johnnyreb on June 5, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Of course, we could go with Jim56′s theory that Fox News has been paying all of these platoon members and ‘senior Pentagon officials’ to say all of this, which obviously means that Rupert Murdoch may be the only man in the world with a time machine considering that they have been saying it for years. All of these people, evidently, knew that Obama would make this bone-headed trade one day so they reported Bergdahl’s actions and statements 5 years ago.

I have it from a good source inside of MSNBC that the Koch brothers personally kidnapped Bergdahl and delivered him to the Taliban.

tkc882 on June 5, 2014 at 4:10 PM

God .. I would love to read the article Michael Hastings was working on … I wonder if he confided in anybody about it..

djl130 on June 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM

My point exactly.

d1carter on June 5, 2014 at 4:03 PM

The “you” was not meant at you.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Hastings, if you could talk…

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Did Bergdahl send his personal belongings, including his laptop, back to his family when he went AWOL twice earlier?

No, he didn’t.

If you are having a ‘mental break’, do you send your stuff to your parents a week or two before?

Please. It is evidence that this was a premeditated act and not one that ‘just happened’ during a ‘mental break.’

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Since we’re theorizing here…
– Allah

Well not just here, Allah.
And be aware that that folks here had conniption fits when I suggested considering your mental break theory.
But fact is – we don’t know.
Every hour now, not just every day, a new theory appears as quickly as cracks appear in old ones.
All we can be certain of now is that it’s a media and political feeding frenzy.
And when has a story in that climate ever not evolved into something else once facts start playing a role in the narrative?

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:15 PM

I fail to see how any news organization, much less The Daily Beast, would know much of anything about this soldier’s disappearance after the fact. Notes and the like, if they exist, would be in the hands of the Army. They can be verified. Anything after that however, such as purported escape attempts, is probably nothing but speculation.

As far as I can tell, not a single reporter or outsider has had access to Bergdahl since his release. He’s under Army custody at a medical facility in Germany.

RobertE on June 5, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Innocent until proven guilty is the foundation of the American justice system. I will keep my inner nancy grace locked up until I get more facts.

coolrepublica on June 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Yes, it is the foundation of the American justice system. It does not, however, preclude anyone from forming an opinion. That has been going on since Benedict Arnold…who long preceded Nancy Grace.

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM

All this focus on Bergdahl, who are the guys they let loose to attack us again?

How could one misbehaving soldier be worth the lives that will certainly lost when those five start their killing machine up again?

I honestly do not get how releasing a POW is worth unleashing 5 killers on the world.

Leave no man behind, check, but getting untold number of innocent people killed? That isn’t part of the deal! That isn’t the code!

Send the military in to break him out, that is the code. Not letting killers kill.

petunia on June 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Hastings’ car didn’t keep its silence agreement either. Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Akzed on June 5, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Did Bergdahl send his personal belongings, including his laptop, back to his family when he went AWOL twice earlier?

No, he didn’t.

If you are having a ‘mental break’, do you send your stuff to your parents a week or two before?

Please. It is evidence that this was a premeditated act and not one that ‘just happened’ during a ‘mental break.’

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Interesting that you’re referring to those reported episodes as AWOL.
And you have no idea whether he ever sent stuff home before or what.
You’re free to make assumptions – and some may turn out to be correct. But they are still assumptions and far from ‘evidence’.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM

The leftists only like one type of Soldiers, the dead ones. Schadenfreude on June 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Yeah, they can be useful sometimes, even when their safety was your responsibility, right Hillary?

Akzed on June 5, 2014 at 4:26 PM

You’re free to make assumptions – and some may turn out to be correct. But they are still assumptions and far from ‘evidence’.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Agreed, we need to have a full and comprehensive investigation about Benghazi, from top to bottom, to make sure all evidence is properly presented.

You would support that, right?

Bishop on June 5, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Yep, they were all over CSpan celebrating those grim milestones with press conferences.

Johnnyreb on June 5, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Which made it all the more offensive. They spoke in grave tones about the seriousness of any military death but they somehow couldn’t keep the glee out of their voices.

Happy Nomad on June 5, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Every hour now, not just every day, a new theory appears as quickly as cracks appear in old ones.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:15 PM

You’re right. And most of them are being fostered by your buddy Obama.

Walter L. Newton on June 5, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Obama and the Left have never given the Tea Party the benefit of the doubt that it is demanding that we give Bergdahl, who, for whatever reason, abandoned his brothers-in-arms during a time of war and knew that they would be risking life and limb when sent to search for him.

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Interesting that you’re referring to those reported episodes as AWOL.
And you have no idea whether he ever sent stuff home before or what.
You’re free to make assumptions – and some may turn out to be correct. But they are still assumptions and far from ‘evidence’.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM

If he had sent his personal belongs home before from Afghanistan, he wouldn’t have had to ask his platoon leader how to do it, as he did, now, would he?

‘Cuz, ta-da!, he would have already known how to do it!

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 4:34 PM

According to the Daily Beast, he tried to escape from captivity twice.

Not credible.

First of all, it’s the Daily Beast, staffed by lying leftist scum of the earth. So, there’s that.

Mainly, though: how would they get that info? From the Taliban? Right. Know, it came from the Obama Administration, and they could only get it by debriefing Bergdahl.

So, even if Bergdahl said it – and no other info of his debriefing has emerged – it is self-serving for him, because it makes him look like more of a hostage and less of a collaborator.

Finally, consider the source. Really.

Adjoran on June 5, 2014 at 4:36 PM

a new theory appears as quickly as cracks appear in old ones.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:15 PM

LOL, what cracks? So far, the only theory that has been supported by ongoing revelations is the one being revealed from the beginning – Bergdahl is a deserter, and possibly a traitor. But you keep dreaming of rainbows and unicorns and your messiah ascending from the White House on rays of sunshine. It’s all you’ve got.

GWB on June 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM

IMHO, having the Tollybohn kill Bergdahl would have saved us the money for bullets to shoot his deserting a$$. That’s a real win.

jukin3 on June 5, 2014 at 4:39 PM

his dad also said there was a letter so….

dmacleo on June 5, 2014 at 4:41 PM

You’re free to make assumptions – and some may turn out to be correct. But they are still assumptions and far from ‘evidence’.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Agreed, we need to have a full and comprehensive investigation about Benghazi, from top to bottom, to make sure all evidence is properly presented.

You would support that, right?

Bishop on June 5, 2014 at 4:30 PM

I’d always supported that.
Repubs had other plans.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I’d always supported that.
Repubs had other plans.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:47 PM

So did the administration considering the, supposedly, fair and balanced investigation didn’t even interview Hillary.

Resist We Much on June 5, 2014 at 4:50 PM

I think the plan here for the Obama administration and the lapdog media is to keep throwing out bits of information to muddy the waters just like they did with Benghazi. Eventually people will think it is just a clusterphuk of conflicting information that they don’t want to pay attention to anymore.

Wigglesworth on June 5, 2014 at 4:52 PM

I’d always supported that.
Repubs had other plans.

verbaluce on June 5, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Ah, it’s the pubs keeping Killary and the 30+ civilians who were present from testifying, got it.

Who knew the GOP had so much pull.

Bishop on June 5, 2014 at 4:55 PM

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