Soldier: Army told us to lie about Bergdahl’s capture

posted at 2:01 pm on June 4, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

The State Department’s attempt to shut up the soldiers who served with Bowe Bergdahl at the time of his capture may end up backfiring on the White House, which has apparently decided to attack their integrity rather than explain their own spin on the issue.  One soldier appeared on Fox and Friends this morning who took part in the post-desertion search for Bergdahl and said that the military instructed them to lie about the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance (via Noah Rothman at Mediaite):

“The sentiment that everybody knew was that he walked off the base in the middle of the night, left all his gear there, and went – just walked off the post,” Fuller said. “So, we had all known that it was — that he had deserted his post, and there was never anything about him getting captured or POW until a little while later whenever it came down from the chain of command that we needed to keep quiet and not say anything.”

“We’re going with the narrative that he was captured,” Fuller said of the military’s position on Bergdahl’s alleged desertion.

“So, they basically told you not to tell the truth,” Fox host Brian Kilmeade said.

“Yes, sir,” Fuller replied.

Fuller concluded by corroborating the claims of Bergdahl’s former team leader, Sgt. Evan Buetow,who told CNN on Tuesday that the Taliban’s attacks became more directed after Bergdahl was captured.

“The ambushes we use, the certain tactics we use, the Taliban was picking up on those things,” Fuller said. “You could tell it was from somebody on the inside that had that info.”

There may have been some operational and security issues involved in attempting to keep the disappearance quiet at that point in time. For instance, they could have hoped to keep the value of Bergdahl to the local Taliban or the Haqqanis low enough to arrange for an inexpensive trade — perhaps even some cash. There is some indication that the low-value approach was initially successful, but was lost when the captors published the first captivity video of Bergdahl and the Haqqanis realized what they had. But that’s an argument for keeping the disappearance and capture entirely quiet, and not just cover it with a false narrative, especially among those who already knew what had happened.

Besides that, the other reason to keep the nature of the disappearance quiet could have been to keep from embarrassing the family back home and creating problems for an already-troubled young man had he been retrieved soon afterward. Given what’s transpired since, largely in reaction to the White House attempting to make Bergdahl into something he’s not, that may not have been an unreasonable consideration either. But the non-disclosures signed by the squad — a highly unusual step, apparently — should have covered those concerns too, without demanding that the men lie about what happened.

One can understand why so many of them are now speaking out, given this context, and why so many of them may get even more vocal as the White House pushes back against their first-person accounts. Speaking of which, Fuller reacted with disdain to the assertion made by State Department spokesperson Marie Harf, which was that Bergdahl’s fellow soldiers at the time were not credible voices on the matter:

QUESTION: Does the State Department consider Sergeant Bergdahl to be a deserter?

MS. HARF: The State Department – no, Lucas. Look, what we said is we are going to learn the facts about what happened here. We said very clearly in a statement from the Secretary on Saturday that Sergeant Bergdahl was a member of the United States military who volunteered to serve his country. We don’t know the facts about what happened yet on that day.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) according to those around him, his platoon mates, his squad mates, company mates, they said he walked off the base.

MS. HARF: Lucas, some of them – other – there are conflicting reports out there about this. Look –

QUESTION: Are there?

MS. HARF: There are. Go Google it on the web and you’ll find a ton of conflicting reports. The fact is we’re still establishing a fact pattern about what happened, how he ended up in Taliban captivity. So when he is able to share those, as Chairman Dempsey said today, he will. He also said, like any American, he is innocent until proven guilty. Our army’s leaders will not look away from misconduct if it occurred. In the meantime, we will continue to care for him and his family.

So I think people need to be really careful about believing every second or third-hand report out there, and also what the President, what the Secretary, what Chairman Dempsey have said: Regardless of how he went missing, it is our responsibility to him to bring him home, period.

QUESTION: And when you say second- and third-hand reports, when his squad mates who served with him overseas said he walked off the –

MS. HARF: Lucas, I’m sure some of them – I mean, look, there’s a lot of rumor and telephone game that’s being played here about what happened. Not all –

QUESTION: So you’re saying that the guys on television last night – his squad mates, platoon mates – were not correct?

MS. HARF: I’m saying we don’t know the fact pattern yet here. We don’t. Nobody knows exactly what happened that night. As the facts emerge, as he’s able to discuss them with the Department of Defense, we will see where that takes us.

QUESTION: Going back to –

MS. HARF: That happened five years ago. This is a situation –

QUESTION: So you’ve had all this time, five years, to determine whether he was a deserter or not. That’s a long time.

MS. HARF: He’s been in captivity, Lucas. I think he’s probably the person who knows best what happened on that night.

QUESTION: But – well, I think that his squad mates have the best indication what happened that night.

MS. HARF: I don’t think that that’s the case.

No one in this administration has much room to evaluate credibility when it comes to this deal.


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Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:03 PM

How many Soldiers came out in defense for Bergdahl?

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Off we go again.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 2:04 PM

The Army never classified the defector as a POW. They knew/know.

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:04 PM

The War on America has begun in earnest. The traitors on the left need to be removed from the country. By Any Means Necessary.

Flange on June 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Good resource to watch the Invasion as it unfolds.

http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_pictures/invasion.html

How does Bergdahl feel about Mejico?

PappyD61 on June 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Beyond disgusting…

sandee on June 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM

The shadowy right-wing operatives come into the light…cue Van Jones.

EA_MAN on June 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM

That State Dept Bobbie is dumber than Jeantel, yes Sir.

America is not as dumb as she thinks…well, that is an insult to thinking.

Susan Rice is Valerie Jarrett’s ventriloquist. If it’s Sunday, shut up, witch. They’re setting you up, Jeantel of the Sunday round.

#Boomerangate, and I love it!!!

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:06 PM

“We’re going with the narrative that he was captured,” Fuller said of the military’s position on Bergdahl’s alleged desertion.

“So, they basically told you not to tell the truth,” Fox host Brian Kilmeade said.

“Yes, sir,” Fuller replied.

Ha ha ha, I knew it. As soon as Obama starting smearing these soldiers, I knew it would only be a matter of time before these guys appeared on live TV to defend themselves. This is great. If we had a real opposition party we could probably do some real damage to the administration over this.

As it is, I guess we’ll have to settle for schadenfreude and watching Obama’s poll numbers crater.

Doomberg on June 4, 2014 at 2:06 PM

“Worst week of Obama’s Presidency”

-headline, last 231 weeks

Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Obama siding with the enemies of America, not that anyone paying attention is shocked.

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 2:06 PM

The State Department’s attempt

Woah… wait a minute….

You’re talking about Hillary.

Hillary forced soldiers to lie? To coverup something?

faraway on June 4, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Do we listent to men who put themselves on the line for all of us and were on the sharp end or listen to some political flunky who know nothing of service and honor? The whole state dept. and DOD admin. is in spin mode and are disgracing themselves. the first rule of being in a hole: stop digging.

warmairfan on June 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM

this country has become just plain embarrassing to people around the planet. We are jokes. Anyone think that Putin is not taking notes?

Techster64 on June 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Fuller concluded by corroborating the claims of Bergdahl’s former team leader, Sgt. Evan Buetow,who told CNN on Tuesday that the Taliban’s attacks became more directed after Bergdahl was captured.

“The ambushes we use, the certain tactics we use, the Taliban was picking up on those things,” Fuller said. “You could tell it was from somebody on the inside that had that info.”

Giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. What’s that called again? Oh yeah, treason.

Ward Cleaver on June 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)
ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY

Any person who–

(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or

(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;

shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.

‘Murika

Roy Rogers on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

The War on America has begun in earnest. The traitors on the left need to be removed from the country. By Any Means Necessary. – Flange on June 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM

This was done before after the end of American Revolution. Loyalists who felt like they could no longer live in America were picked up by British ships and relocated to Britain and elsewhere. It is estimated that around 30,000 did this.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Since this administration came to power,I feel like I am living in some kind of weird Rod Serling Twilight Zone finale.

celtic warrior on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

“War on Vets”

Sven on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

By Any Means Necessary.

Flange on June 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Please understand your ‘enemy’. Don’t fall into the trap.

ALINSKY RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

faraway on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Unrelated: former squad mates randomly chosen for IRS audits.

mankai on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

How many Soldiers came out in defense for Bergdahl?

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Besides Tali-Bob, the only person I’ve heard with anything positive to say about Tali-Bowe is his ballet teacher. The soldiers who were with him at that OP in Afghanistan????? Not so much.

Happy Nomad on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Hair flipping, gum snapping, adolescent State Department spokes-bitch.

Shaughnessy on June 4, 2014 at 2:11 PM

RE: Ms Harf
The universally stellar quality of the individuals who make up this administration is truly breathtaking.

That Obama sure knows how to pick’em.

-throws up in mouth a bit-

VelvetElvis on June 4, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Anyone think that Putin is not taking notes?

Techster64 on June 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Putin is writing the notes.

faraway on June 4, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Help the First ‘Lady’ out.

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:11 PM

This country has become just plain embarrassing to people around the planet. We are jokes. Anyone think that Putin is not taking notes? – Techster64 on June 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Putin is rolling on the floor with laughter.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

And the GOP is… where?

For f*cks sake, do they have a single testicle among them?

Midas on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

If they follow standard state department procedure, expect the story-line to develop that Bergdahl was lured away by an internet video that no else saw.

Deafdog on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Putin is laughing is azz off.

He’s the moral authority emperor of the world because obama, the lilliputian treasonous CiC made him that.

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

military instructed them to lie about the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance

…the left picked the people for promotions in the military…we are not surprised are we?

KOOLAID2 on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Soldiers are trained on these from day one.This is why we are getting the truth from his peers.

The Seven Army Values

Loyalty
Bear true faith and allegiance to the U.S. constitution, the Army, and other soldiers.
Be loyal to the nation and its heritage.

The Decision at the Marias. The men thought the route ran to the northwest up the Marias River, while both Lewis and Clark thought the main river channel ran to the southwest. The men agreed to go along with the decision of the captains to proceed to the southwest, which was indeed the Missouri River.

Duty
Fulfill your obligations.
Accept responsibility for your own actions and those entrusted to your care.
Find opportunities to improve oneself for the good of the group.

Fulfilling the Letter and Intent of Jefferson’s Order. The Corps of Discovery never wavered from its mission. Additionally, Lewis, Clark, and several of the men kept journals. Sergeant Ordway was the only one to make daily entries.

Respect
Rely upon the golden rule.
How we consider others reflects upon each of us, both personally and as a professional organization.

Diplomats with the Indians. The Corps of Discovery honored with dignity and respect all the tribes it met, offering gifts as a symbol of friendship and peace.

Selfless Service
Put the welfare of the nation, the Army, and your subordinates before your own.
Selfless service leads to organizational teamwork and encompasses discipline, self-control and faith in the system.

Adversity Along the Way. Hard physical labor characterized every day, but the Corps of Discovery conquered every navigational hazard and overcame a variety of physical ills – boils, blisters, bunions, sunstroke, dysentery, fatigue, injuries, colds, fevers, snakebites, ticks, gnats, toothaches, headaches, sore throats, bad mosquitoes, and prickly pear cactus.

Honor
Live up to all the Army values

Importance of Character. Lewis and Clark were very thorough in selecting only the best men for the mission – those who would work together for the good of the group and pull their own weight.

Integrity
Do what is right, legally and morally.
Be willing to do what is right even when no one is looking.
It is our “moral compass” an inner voice.

Degree of Freedom. Many times the men were on their own as the captains performed their duties. On the return trip, Lewis and Clark divided the Corps of Discovery into five separate detachments (under the commands of Lewis, Clark, Ordway, Gass, and Pryor) to accomplish independent missions. Only two men were discharged from the expedition – Reed for desertion and Newman for mutinous conduct.

Personal Courage
Our ability to face fear, danger, or adversity, both physical and moral courage.

Into the Unknown. The men of the Corps of Discovery left not knowing what lay ahead or if they would ever return. Throughout the journals one phrase stands out – “we proceeded on.” This clearly characterizes the spirit of the expedition.

docflash on June 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Oh verabluuuuuuuuuuuuuucccceeeeeeeeeeeeee

Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Hair flipping, gum snapping, adolescent State Department spokes-b*tch.

Shaughnessy on June 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Is his name Anonymous? Because he’s wrong and swiftboating if it’s not.

rogerb on June 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM

ALINSKY RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

faraway on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Good point, but if the other side is wiped out, it won’t matter.

Flange on June 4, 2014 at 2:14 PM

This is the biggest clusterfark ever. Seriously. It’s clear Obama wanted to dump those 10 Taliban to get the close Gitmo ball rolling but I’ve never seen anything handled so badly. Except maybe Benghazi.

Rocks on June 4, 2014 at 2:14 PM

And the GOP is… where?

For f*cks sake, do they have a single testicle among them?

Midas on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

…they were tied in knots…a long time ago!

KOOLAID2 on June 4, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Do we listent to men who put themselves on the line for all of us and were on the sharp end or listen to some political flunky who know nothing of service and honor? The whole state dept. and DOD admin. is in spin mode and are disgracing themselves. the first rule of being in a hole: stop digging.

warmairfan on June 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Yeah, I’m fascinated with the left’s assertion that Bowe Bergdahl is an fine upstanding American of unquestioned integrity and pure motives. But, apparently, every soldier that served with Bergdahl is a partisan lying douchebag.

Bergdahl got jumped on his way back from Bible study or something but his platoon didn’t notice because they were engaged in debauchery.

Happy Nomad on June 4, 2014 at 2:14 PM

“War on Vets”

Sven on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

It’s a War on America, this is a Battle on Vets.

Flange on June 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM

At some point, one would think that among Obama and his inner circle of the ‘best and brightest’, some of these nitwits would remember the first rule of hole digging.

The fact that they don’t just reinforces just how much contempt they hold us in…

Athos on June 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Boehner is hiding in Pelosi and Wasserman-Schmutz’ undies.

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM

and so now we’re waiting for another report to determine if the guy was a deserter??? is it not clear now that this is their answer for everything??

that state department woman’s constantly saying Lucas’s name is very annoying! did she learn that in her “art of persuasion” book?

the fact that she was so quick to try and discredit his fellow soldiers says a lot about the kind of people we have in the state department.

typical obama acolyte, maybe book smart but has no common sense.

jetch on June 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Help the First ‘Lady’ out.
Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:11 PM

“Shoot up here amongst us! One of us needs some relief!” ~ Jerry Clower

Roy Rogers on June 4, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Only Feinstein has spoken out, and said that obama handled this “illegally”.

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Winner Sven!
Spot on

cmsinaz on June 4, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Allah and Ed: you are both imbeciles.

And that chick from the state department is a stupid slut who only got her job from sucking d*ck.

Obviously this guy being interviewed is just another Muztard doing Taqiyya.

You all suck.

WhatSlushfund on June 4, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Besides that, the other reason to keep the nature of the disappearance quiet could have been to keep from embarrassing the family back home and creating problems for an already-troubled young man had he been retrieved soon afterward.

WTFF?

The family back home should have been humiliated and ashamed of their son’s desertion (of course, Mullah Dad was not, as he was in the Taliban’s corner, to begin with). As to “creating problems for already-troubled young man” … he’s a deserter and, likely, traitor. His personal issues are of no concern, at all. None. He’s a POS criminal guilty of the worst sorts of crimes. “Already-troubled young man” … FFS. You might electrocute yourself crying all over your computer like that …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 4, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Oh verabluuuuuuuuuuuuuucccceeeeeeeeeeeeee – Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM

I think he has wisely left the field of battle for awhile. But he will return.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Bergdahl got jumped on his way back from Bible study or something but his platoon didn’t notice because they were engaged in debauchery.

Happy Nomad on June 4, 2014 at 2:14 PM

The story being sold among the intelligentsia… Bergdahl got jumped on his way back from a celebration of the LGBT lifestyle, but his platoon didn’t notice because they were engaged in a homophobic Bible Study.

mankai on June 4, 2014 at 2:18 PM

I really want to smack that girl upside the head

Unstinkingbelievable

cmsinaz on June 4, 2014 at 2:18 PM

And the GOP is… where?

For f*cks sake, do they have a single testicle among them?

Midas on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

No they do not.

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 2:18 PM

… As soon as Obama starting smearing these soldiers, I knew it would only be a matter of time before these guys appeared on live TV to defend themselves our country.

Doomberg on June 4, 2014 at 2:06 PM

We can wish.

Tsar of Earth on June 4, 2014 at 2:19 PM

ALINSKY RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

faraway on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Maybe a non-sequitur here, but I guess I can’t think asymmetrically like the Alinsky rules require. It appears to me that those rules work for the left *only*, because they’re written from their context, with ‘us’ as the foil.

I’ve come to think of them simply as non-universal – we can’t adopt them, because the context/foil is different, and doesn’t think the way we do, nor the way we expect normal/sane/civilized/honorable people to behave. The rules work for the left, because we behave ourselves.

Pick the ‘shame’ one (the left can’t be shamed), or even this #10 – go ahead, cast that in the context of us doing it to them. What negative could we push hard enough that it would become a positive – assuming we’d even set out to do such a thing, lol…

And is your comment a non-sequitur from the rule itself? What does your ‘violence/underdog’ comment have to do with rule #10?

Midas on June 4, 2014 at 2:19 PM

In the meantime, we will continue to care for him and his family.

Oh good. Put them all in a VA hospital.

Akzed on June 4, 2014 at 2:19 PM

When Bergdahl gives his inevitable interview to Oprah or Barbara, will he have ‘remembered’ English or will he need a translator?

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Visions of Baghdad Bob as he was reporting that there was no invasion or American troops in the city, with the American tanks behind him…

“They’re not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion … they are trying to sell to the others an illusion.”

“Listen, this explosion does not frighten us any longer. The cruise missiles do not frighten anyone. We are catching them like fish in a river. I mean here that over the past two days we managed to shoot down 196 missiles before they hit their target.”

“They are sick in their minds. They say they brought 65 tanks into center of city. I say to you this talk is not true. This is part of their sick mind.”

Bergdahl had served the United States “with honor and distinction”

right2bright on June 4, 2014 at 2:21 PM

I think he has wisely left the field of battle for awhile. But he will return.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Tali-Bowe left the field of battle for awhile. And he served with honor and distinction according to Tali-Barry’s administration.

Happy Nomad on June 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM

And the GOP is… where?

For f*cks sake, do they have a single testicle among them?

Midas on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Yes, they do have one.

The problem is that they have to share it among them and someone has misplaced it.

climbnjump on June 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Rescue dog, anyone:

Officials with the Marine Corps military working dog program are looking to find homes for all the service’s improvised explosive device-sniffing dogs as the Corps’ requirement for these highly trained animals draws to a close.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/article/20140603/NEWS/306030083/Marine-Corps-close-its-IED-detection-dogs-specialty

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM

What cracks me up is the ‘he’s the one who knows best what happened that night’ :)…no kidding, like he will step fwd and say that he’s a deserter or something…these people are nuts…you have to corroborate his story or fiction?) with the his platoon soldiers’ account of what happened that night, orherwise he can spin it the way he wants it.

jimver on June 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM

This doesn’t count because it was on FOX.

NotCoach on June 4, 2014 at 2:24 PM

So what are the blacks saying about this ? Are they supporting their boy or are they supporting the country and it’s soldiers ?
We need to know where their loyalties are today.

burrata on June 4, 2014 at 2:24 PM

And the GOP is… where?

For f*cks sake, do they have a single testicle among them?

Midas on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Still waiting for the second one to descend.

jimver on June 4, 2014 at 2:24 PM

“It gets really hurtful when I think, this guy was worth my son’s life? My son who was patriotic? Who was a true soldier? Who defended his country with his life?” Andrews told Army Times via phone on Monday. “That guy was worth that? I don’t think so.

I bet you anything there were soldiers killed or wounded capturing those five guys,” she said. “So what does that do for their sacrifice? They sacrificed for nothing, because they turned right around and let them go.”

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

I can’t keep up with all the scandals. Really.

ScandalNado!!

faraway on June 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Hair flipping, gum snapping, adolescent State Department spokes-b*tch.

Shaughnessy on June 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Can you imagine any other world power having someone like that as an official government spokesperson? She must have some really special talent when she’s out of the public eye.

butch on June 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

And the GOP is… where?

For f*cks sake, do they have a single testicle among them?

Midas on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Some individual GOPers have gone on the attack against the administration. However, Boehner and McConnell are AWOL as usual. I think Boehner might have even made some vaguely Obama-supportive statement a day ago along the lines of “let’s not rush to judgment blah blah blah” but don’t quote me on it.

As I’ve said elsewhere, we could be doing some real damage to Obama over this if we had an actual opposition party. Too bad we don’t.

Doomberg on June 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

the fact pattern

My BS meter pegged out reading that.

dogsoldier on June 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

The War on America has begun in earnest. The traitors on the left need to be removed from the country. By Any Means Necessary. – Flange on June 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM

This was done before after the end of American Revolution. Loyalists who felt like they could no longer live in America were picked up by British ships and relocated to Britain and elsewhere. It is estimated that around 30,000 did this.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Yep, time to bunker down…
Why do you think the feds shipped the illegals from Texas to AZ?? Hmmm??

Well the feds have got to know that Texas and Texans won’t stand around while we are being invaded.

I see this getting messy real quick. The feds have started it.

redguy on June 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

The Army saw him leave his post as a PFC and yet they promoted him to Sergeant? Something very smelly here. Then, that is no surprise, as we have seen the senior military continue to compromise their sworn duty and follow the permissive, even unlawful orders of their CINC. Think Ft. Hood and Gen. Casey’s warning not to rush to judgment and call Maj. Hasan a terrorist.

tomshup on June 4, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Thw collaborator’s squad mates, now being maligned by King Putt’s lackeys will come out and defend themselves.

I think the regime picked the wrong unit to pick a fight with…

dogsoldier on June 4, 2014 at 2:27 PM

MeanWhile,….:

US Army Sgt. Bergdahl freed
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Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel agrees to appear at House Armed Services Committee hearing on Bergdahl prisoner swap on June 11 – @ChadPergram
End of alert
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https://twitter.com/ChadPergram

Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 8m

House Armed Svcs Cmte hrng with Hagel on June 11 will be the 1st major public discussion of #Bergdahl

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 23m

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel agrees to appear at House Armed Services Cmte hearing on #Bergdahl June 11

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 58m

For tonight’s Senate briefing on #Bergdahl, both Cardillo & Adm. Winnefeld briefed Boehner/others on initially transfer plan in ’11.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 1h

Briefers for Senate-wide #Bergdahl briefing this pm (con’t): Jt Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. James Winnefeld.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 1h

Briefers for Senate-wide 5:30 pm et session on #Bergdahl: Deputy Secretary of Defense Robert Work, Deputy DNI Robert Cardillo..

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 2h

Hse Veterans’ Affairs Committee to holds its 2nd prime time hearing on #VA next Monday at 7:30 pm et. Witnesses from GAO & IG on wait times.

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Ohhh, the naivety of Ms Harf! Evidently, she doesn’t know that people of low character will look you straight in the face and tell you something that is just not true, when telling the truth will generate harmful consequences. Kinda like, “if you like your healthcare, you can keep it.”
If Bergdahl is asked, “are you a traitor?”, he will, without a doubt, say -No! He knows the punishment he will incur.
Since when is the standard what a suspect, but innocent, person taken at 100% truth?
What a world Ms Harf must live in.

gonnjos on June 4, 2014 at 2:28 PM

It’s so funny that children think that they’ll get away with a lie.

John the Libertarian on June 4, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Damn, Those Republican operatives got to Fuller first!

faol on June 4, 2014 at 2:31 PM

MeanWhile Part Deux:

War in Afghanistan
5h
Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel: ‘I do not know specific circumstances of US soldiers dying as a result of efforts to find and rescue Sgt. Bergdahl’ – @margbrennan
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margaret brennan @margbrennan · 6h

#SecDef Hagel says that it is “a bit unfair” to Bowe Bergdahl & his family to “presume anything.” He says there will be a review.

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:31 PM

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Hagel is a dunce and an inarticulate speaker.

I think it was unfair to fourteen dead GI’s who tried to save the collaborator’s worthless azz.

dogsoldier on June 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1h

Closed door briefing this afternoon for Senators on the deal to release Sgt Bergdahl. Deputy DNI and Deputy Def Sec among the briefers.

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM

And the GOP is… where?

For f*cks sake, do they have a single testicle among them?

Midas on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Some of them have spoken out. But I actually want them to keep quiet. When you’ve got these soldiers and their families speaking out and even the press and a handful of Dems piling on, stay out of the way!

Doughboy on June 4, 2014 at 2:35 PM

John Kerry, “the haughty, French-looking Massachusetts Democrat who by the way served in Vietnam” …is the current Secretary of State.

d1carter on June 4, 2014 at 2:36 PM

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Hagel is a dunce and an inarticulate speaker.

I think it was unfair to fourteen dead GI’s who tried to save the collaborator’s worthless azz.

dogsoldier on June 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM

dogsoldier: Ya, I didn’t want to see Hagel get confirmed either,
and here we are with this Hopey/Changey MouthPiece!:)

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:36 PM

The feds have started it.

redguy on June 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

They are just trying to figure out how to blame it on a conservative(s) so they can declare martial law.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Jose Baggett, former Pfc

Jose Baggett, knew two of the soldiers who were killed searching for Bergdahl.

“Nobody knows if he defected or he’s a traitor or he was kidnapped,” Baggett told CNN’s Jake Tapper. “What I do know is, he was there to protect us, and instead he decided to [defect] from America and go and do his own thing. I don’t know why he decided to do that, but we spent so much of our resources, and some of those resources were soldiers’ lives.”

Nathan Bradley Bethea, former infantry officer

“The truth is: Bergdahl was a deserter, and soldiers from his own unit died trying to track him down,” writes Nathan Bradley Bethea, who served in the same battalion as Bergdahl and participated in attempts to retrieve him.

In an article for the Daily Beast, Bethea describes the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance, and the search mission that followed.

“Bergdahl was relieved from guard duty, and instead of going to sleep, he fled the outpost on foot,” Bethea writes. He elaborated in a CNN interview, “There wasn’t any other explanation — he must have intentionally left the guys in his unit behind.”

The combat platoons in Bergdahl’s battalion undertook daily search missions, and some of these missions would last for ten days. “The war was already absurd and quixotic,” Bethea writes, “but the hunt for Bergdahl was even more infuriating because it was all the result of some kid doing something unnecessary by his own volition.”

Bethea explains how six soldiers were killed in the search for Bergdahl. Though Bergdahl has finally returned, he wrote, “those men will never have the opportunity.”

Bethea has forgiven Bergdahl, saying his retrieval “at least reminds soldiers that we will never abandon them to their fates, right or wrong.” Still, he wrote that Bergdahl “has much to answer for.”

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Evan Buetow, former sergeant

Former Army Sgt. Evan Buetow was Bergdahl’s team leader at the time. Buetow told CNN intelligence from the search for Bergdahl indicates that Bergdahl deserted his platoon to seek out the Taliban. Buetow noted that following Bergdahl’s apparent desertion, the Taliban began launching more effective attacks on American forces.

“Following his disappearance, IEDs started going off directly under the trucks,” Buetow said. “They were getting perfect hits every time. Their ambushes were very calculated, very methodical, like they knew what we were going to do.”

Buetow explained that U.S. searchers monitored radio and cell phone communications during their attempts to find Bergdahl, and overheard a conversation that suggested that Bergdahl was pursuing the Taliban. He said that the searchers heard, “‘the American is in [a nearby village], he’s looking for someone who speaks English so he can talk to the Taliban.’ And I heard it straight from the interpreters lips as he heard it over the radio.”

In an ABC interview, Buetow also described how Bergdahl “was very upset with the army and how we were handling the war.”

Joshua Cornelison, former platoon medic

“Yes, I’m angry,” former medic Joshua Cornelison told the New York Times of Bergdahl’s celebration as a hero.

“I won’t get into the politics, but now that he’s back, he needs to be held 100 percent accountable,” Cornelison told the newspaper. He added that the platoon was ordered to quit other missions to find Bergdahl, “putting myself and 29 other people in my platoon in hell for 90 days.”

Cornelison joined others in calling for Bergdahl to be court martialed.

“He is not a hero – he is, rather, a deserter,” he said in a separate interview with NBC. “He willfully decided to be selfish and to walk away from everything we were trained to do.”

Cody Full, former sergeant

“I believe that he deserted, without a doubt in my mind,” Sgt. Cody Full said of Bergdahl, his former platoon-mate, in a Fox News interview.

Full described how some of Bergdahl’s activities before he deserted were “tell-tale signs” of his intentions to desert. The former sergeant sent his belongings home, emailed critical remarks of the U.S. army, and spoke to the Afghan national police with an “agenda,” Full said.

Bergdahl’s departure “was premeditated, it was thought out,” Full said in a separate ABC interview. “He left on his own accord.”

“We all took an oath; he violated his oath when he deserted us and put other Americans in jeopardy,” Full said. He explained that the six soldiers who died in the search for Bergdahl were in that situation because of his desertion.

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Closed door briefing this afternoon for Senators on the deal to release Sgt Bergdahl. Deputy DNI and Deputy Def Sec among the briefers.

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Translation : they are just haggling over their price

burrata on June 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM

He was obviously a super secret spy on a super secret mission for the administration and got captured, served with distinction and deserves a heroes welcome, worth 100 taliban prisoners and we got a deal with trading 5……anyone buying that?

Koa on June 4, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Josh Korder, former sergeant

Former Army Sgt. Josh Korder, who served with Bergdahl, told CNN that Bergdahl is “at best, a deserter, and at worst, a traitor.”

Korder described how immediately after their platoon’s arrival in Afghanistan, Bergdahl “starting separating himself from us and everyone in the platoon, and started gravitating more towards the Afghan soldiers.”

As to why Bergdahl decided to leave the platoon, Korder thinks that Bergdahl “just wanted to go on an adventure, without having anybody to answer to.”

Korder expressed frustration that though the six soldiers who died searching for Bergdahl were given little recognition and media attention, Bergdahl has been nationally celebrated in the media.

“Any of us would have died for us when he was with us,” Korder said. “For him to just leave us like that — it was a very big betrayal.” Korder thinks that Bergdahl should be questioned and possibly tried once he is healthy.

Greg Leatherman, former squad leader

Bergdahl’s former squad leader told TIME magazine that while he respected Bergdahl’s “loner” personality, he speculated that Bergdahl’s efforts to read the Koran and learn Pashto were his way of “preparing” to walk off the base and live on his own.

Leatherman knew some of the men who died searching for Bergdahl, and came forward to share his frustrations. “People deserve, and especially the families, to know the truth about what happened,” he told This Morning.

Gerald Sutton, former army specialist

Former Army Spc. Gerald Sutton, a former platoon mate of Bergdahl’s, believes Bergdahl should face the consequences of his actions, including a court martial.

Sutton told Fox News that although he does not know what Bergdahl’s motivations were, he thinks the desertion was “premeditated.”

“I just don’t want to see him hailed as a hero,” Sutton said.

Matt Vierkant, former sergeant

One of Bergdahl’s former platoon mates thinks the swap of five Taliban officials for Bergdahl doesn’t make any sense. “I don’t understand why we’re trading prisoners at Gitmo for somebody who deserted during a time of war, which is an act of treason,” former Army Sgt, Matt Vierkant told CNN’s Jake Tapper.

“I was pissed off then, and I am even more so now with everything going on,” he continued. “Bowe Bergdahl deserted during a time of war, and his fellow Americans lost their lives searching for him.”

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Hair flipping, gum snapping, adolescent State Department spokes-bitch.

Shaughnessy on June 4, 2014 at 2:11 PM

I kept waiting for the “DUDE!”.

Can’t stand it either when I see women who have to move their hair off their face every 30 seconds. Put it up or pull it back and stop playing with it.

lynncgb on June 4, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Why should anybody presume this guy intends to even stay in America if and when he is returned? Based on the evidence, one should question if he’s only returning in order to benefit his Taliban friends with the release of 5 of their leaders.

catsmeow on June 4, 2014 at 2:41 PM

WTF-WTH, stupid,…stupid,….Canadian and American:

Matt Lee @APDiploWriter · 1h

WASHINGTON (AP) – Videos show young couple who disappeared in #Afghanistan appealing to US for help.

The Associated Press @AP · 1h

MORE: Videos show American woman and her Canadian husband who went missing in Afghanistan in 2012: http://apne.ws/1pRvYdB

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-exclusive-videos-couple-held-afghanistan

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Right now they are looking for just one soldier that they can discredit, and that’s all the media will then talk about. Or find one who will speak in support of the deserter, which is even less likely.

The bar is low. The WH only has to provide the slightest doubt and the MSM will run with it and then stop reporting the story altogether.

And they appear to be going 100% on this one. I’ve noticed armies of stooges trying to flame old posts on the subject on conservative blogs. They are fully mobilized because they know how serious this one is.

forest on June 4, 2014 at 2:42 PM

It’s so funny that children think that they’ll get away with a lie.

John the Libertarian on June 4, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Um, they get away with the most egregious pathological lying I’ve ever seen every day because the media refuses to cover it.

crrr6 on June 4, 2014 at 2:42 PM

After the woodshed meeting with the administration, watch for softening of comments from those who took the money…

d1carter on June 4, 2014 at 2:42 PM

WTF! This thing is like a blazing wild fire now.

sorrowen on June 4, 2014 at 2:43 PM

canopfor on June 4, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Yes.

dogsoldier on June 4, 2014 at 2:43 PM

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