It’s come to this: White House aides now accusing Bergdahl’s squad of “swift-boating” him

posted at 11:21 am on June 4, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via the Weekly Standard. “Swift-boating,” as you may recall, is when critics tell the truth about someone’s military service when the truth is unhelpful to Democrats. Consider this the beginning of phase three of the Bergdahl fallout. Phase one was when soldiers from Bergdahl’s unit caught the White House off-guard by publicly accusing him of desertion. Team O probably thought the combination of nondisclosure agreements that they were forced to sign and the prospect of retaliation if they made life hard for the Pentagon would keep them quiet. That was the key misjudgment from which everything else over the past three days has flowed.

Phase two was the White House desperately searching for someone, anyone, from Bergdahl’s unit who’d stand up in front of the media and vouch for his character. That’s happening entirely out of public view, but rest assured, it’s happening. The fact that they’ve come up with nothing so far speaks volumes about how uniform opinion is within Bergdahl’s old squad about him and his motives. If Team O could produce just one witness willing to face the cameras and argue that Bergdahl was a good soldier who was probably taken against his will, it’d plant enough doubt in casual observers’ minds that this whole thing might be reduced to a he said/she said matter for many — even though there are at least six veterans already who’ve come forward to support the desertion theory. But they can’t find anyone to do it. It’s been a complete barrage of anti-Bergdahl witnesses on cable news since Monday morning. The State Department is so bereft of third-party support that they were forced last night to tell reporters to trust Bergdahl himself over his squad mates, as if a repatriated deserter wouldn’t have an incentive to lie about why he went missing upon his return.

So now, phase three: Start discrediting the soldiers who’ve accused him. It’ll have to be done subtly and tactfully. If they go dumpster-diving on these guys for things like substance-abuse problems or financial trouble, the nastiness of it might backfire on the White House and make their Bergdahl problem even worse. Babbling about “swift-boating” is a good way to get the ball rolling, at least among liberals who are grasping for ways to defend Obama and have come up empty thus far. “Swift-boating” implies that the vets who’ve accused Bergdahl have some political motivation in doing so; it’s of a piece with that BuzzFeed story yesterday hyperventilating about Republican Ric Grenell helping Bergdahl’s comrades get in touch with media outlets. The point is to suggest that this is some sort of dirty trick, maybe even invented whole cloth by nefarious conservatives to wound the president, rather than a bunch of guys who’ve spent five years boiling inside because their friends got killed on patrol searching for Bergdahl finally choosing to come clean. To protect a guy who allegedly served dishonorably, the White House and the left now have no choice but to go after the honorable ones.

Any predictions on what the next bit of oppo is, or who the target will be? I think Evan Buetow’s interview with Tapper yesterday was the most damaging to the White House so far. Hope you don’t have any unpaid parking tickets, buddy.


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I hope they hold off on Phase 4. Need more beer and popcorn.

DanMan on June 4, 2014 at 11:56 AM

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

So would it have been more acceptable if the Irreverent Jesse Jackson helped the soldiers get their message out? You do realize, most people don’t like or know how to talk to media, so it sometimes takes someone to “manage” the connection?

#IdiotControlNow

#BuckFarack

Nutstuyu on June 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Just asking – you do know what I’m referring to re 3 glass coke bottles?

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Click click click… Click click click… Click click click…

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

It’s not easy finding 3 actual glass Coke bottles these days….

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Go to the Mexican store.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Verby’s here – have fun!

22044 on June 4, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Click click click… Click click click… Click click click…

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

K.
Just wanted to be sure someone got my Warriors reference.

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Verbaluce, you mean the fellow that deserted? The guy that said he hated his country? THAT soldier? You ought to have stayed home, because this isn’t going to go well for you is it?

JFKY on June 4, 2014 at 11:59 AM

It’s not easy finding 3 actual glass Coke bottles these days….

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Go to the Mexican store.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Heh heh heh, I get them at the liquor store across the street, which is owned by Chaldean Iraqi Kurds. Of course I do live in SoCal, so…

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

It’s come to this: White House aides now accusing Bergdahl’s squad of “swift-boating” him

As I said in the headlines thread, I saw this one coming a mile away.

Not that it was hard to see coming.

Via the Weekly Standard. “Swift-boating,” as you may recall, is when critics tell the truth about someone’s military service when the truth is unhelpful to Democratspoliticians.

As a general definition, it applies to all politicians of whatever party. Like telling the truth about Jesse Ventura’s phony claim to be a SEAL.

Practically speaking, though, it’s almost always Democrats. They lie because they really, really need to.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

You mean the same father that praised Taliban attacks on US bases?

sentinelrules on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Go to the Mexican store.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Would that be in a Mexican-American enclave?

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

I do, pretty much every leftist website from the days of the 2000, 2004, and 2008 elections.

Bishop on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Allah –
Colorful. But who is making an effort to discredit or denigrate these soldiers?
Do you consider mentioning (or as you call it, ‘hyperventilating over’) the mere fact there was/is an effort by GOP strategists to manage these guys?
But maybe Grenell & co were merely offering a lift to various news studios. Nothing more than ‘hey, you can use my cell phone for this interview if you like’.
How nice of them!
So aside from pointing to that, what terrible things are being said about this soldiers? And who is saying it?

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Going back to the well of stupid you dug yesterday?

Allah –
A very weak dismissal of the relevance of this detail.
You think it’s ‘lame’ that this is being pointed out.
What it is…is revealing.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Revealing of what?

Are the military’s many, many Bergdahl skeptics now “Obama haters” by definition?

I’d say a good many are.

Where are they? Unleash the Democratic operatives to locate them.

But more to the point, if you reverse the above, it’s 100%.

And there you have it. The dishonesty reigns supreme. No interest in the truth or justice, just in not seeing your guy hoisted.

Regardless of who helped bring out the truth, the truth is truth. The truth is that those who served with Bergdahl are not happy. The truth is that the Pentagon knew since 2010 he was a deserter. The truth is that he left behind evidence he was a terrorist sympathizer at the very least. The truth is that 6 men in his platoon, and maybe 8 others in other platoons, died searching for him. And for you the only thing that matters is who is presenting this truth. Well you can just go die in a Fluking fire.

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

NotCoach on June 4, 2014 at 12:01 PM

They lie because they really, really need to.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

They lie, because if they told the truth, they would end up in prison.

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 12:01 PM

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

I do, pretty much every leftist website from the days of the 2000, 2004, and 2008 elections.

Bishop on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

That’s a b.s. line – but I’m sure it makes you feel good.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Swift-boatng NBC is raises the specter of an Article 32 hearing for Bergdahl.

Of course, they’re also laying the groundwork that even though Bergdahl could face 5 years for desertion, he’s already spent 5 years in captivity. “… you typically don’t throw the book at people who have been prisoners,” said Eugen R. Fidell, who teaches military justice at Yale Law School.

de rigueur on June 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM

But yeah, these days when IRS audits are flying like snow in Siberia on top of people who dare to defy the Dog Eater, I can’t blame the soldiers for seeking a little official help from folks who have some political pull.

Bishop on June 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Just asking – you do know what I’m referring to re 3 glass coke bottles?

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Click click click… Click click click… Click click click…

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Obviously, I didn’t.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM

The White House is truly f’ing desperate.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM

That’s a b.s. line – but I’m sure it makes you feel good.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Please. Your ilk calls US solders child-killers and spat on them.

sentinelrules on June 4, 2014 at 12:04 PM

The arrogance and ignorance of this administration is staggering. This is a fight that it simply can’t win. There is no institution in the country more trusted and respected than the military. Its members, both past and present, are – rightly – given a special place in society. The WH doesn’t even come close in commanding the respect and honour that most Americans still give to the lowliest of soldiers.

These people were there – on the ground – at the time – and they know what happened.

Kerry: ‘President Nixon secretly sent me to Cambodia during Christmas of 1968.’

Fact: Nixon was NOT POTUS in December, 1968.

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 11:29 AM

I think John Kerry is best positioned to know who was president at the time he was sent into Cambodia by order of President Nixon.

After all, he has the hat. He has the hat to this day!!

/Leftist spin is always fun.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

So Bergdahl and his family are superior and free from criticism, because he served as a U.S. soldier.

Well, Fvck him and his Taliban loving family.

Btw, as a military soldier’s family. I trump him. My husband served with real distinction and honor during the same time as Bergdahl in Afghanistan, and didn’t walk away from his post.

melle1228 on June 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM

For verby

22044 on June 4, 2014 at 12:06 PM

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

…you are so over-flowing with shit…and it has glutted your brain!

KOOLAID2 on June 4, 2014 at 12:06 PM

I, a disabled vet (service connected and pretty significant) who never saw war, am so pissed at how they are treating these soldiers I cannot even speak clearly.
the dishonor they are subjecting these people to is atrocious.
I just say this, some people deserve to be dead.

dmacleo on June 4, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Wow this whole thing went downhill fast
GO BARAKA!!!!!!
Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM
In about 48 hrs or less to its a most impressive feat.

sorrowen on June 4, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Obviously, I didn’t.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM

You don’t get it?

Reference to the movie Warriors – which is what started this particular line of comments. The lead bad guy would ride in a car with 3 glass Coke bottles on his fingers, clinking them together and yelling “Warrrrrriors, come out and play” – looking for a gang fight (more to it thatn that, but fair summary).

OK – sadly, I think I blew the whole string by explaining…..

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Swift-boatng NBC is raises the specter of an Article 32 hearing for Bergdahl.

Of course, they’re also laying the groundwork that even though Bergdahl could face 5 years for desertion, he’s already spent 5 years in captivity. “… you typically don’t throw the book at people who have been prisoners,” said Eugen R. Fidell, who teaches military justice at Yale Law School.

de rigueur on June 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Article 32 my a$$, Bergdhal is guilty of Article 99..

Article 99—Misbehavior before the enemy

Text. “Any member of the armed forces who before or in the presence of the enemy—

(1) runs away;

(2) shamefully abandons, surrenders, or delivers up any command, unit, place, or military property which it is his duty to defend;

(3) through disobedience, neglect, or intentional misconduct endangers the safety of any such command, unit, place, or military property;

(4) casts away his arms or ammunition;

(5) is guilty of cowardly conduct;

(6) quits his place of duty to plunder or pillage;

(7) causes false alarms in any command, unit, or place under control of the armed forces;

(8) willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or

(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle; shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.”

Maximum punishment. All offenses under Article 99. Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

The truth is that 6 men in his platoon, and maybe 8 others in other platoons, died searching for him. And for you the only thing that matters is who is presenting this truth.

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Even soldiers critical of Bergdahl are saying that’s not true.
Read a little bit more than the right rage blogs sometimes.
It just leaves you angry and uninformed.

Well you can just go die in a Fluking fire.

Angy, uninformed, and nasty.
Now, now.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

…he’s a defector…not a deserter!

KOOLAID2 on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Hey, f***tard, he chose to walk away from soldiering. Try again.

M240H on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

That’s a b.s. line – but I’m sure it makes you feel good.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Yessir, your brethren out here in on the interwebs never said that Dubya wasn’t a real military guy because he didn’t fly in combat, or that McCain looked like a doofus the way he holds his arms.

Of course long before that you and yours had a fine time talking about the ink pen Dole kept locked in his hand.

Don’t deny it because there are people here who are going to crush you into dust with example after example.

Bishop on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Bergdahl was bought for 5-6 million dollars. The investigation needs to be about “who paid that loot?” Was it you, the taxpayer?

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 11:32 AM

You betcha.
VERY interesting article…..
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/negotiating-with-terrorists-inside-the-capture-and-release-of-sgt-bowe-bergdahl/

“According to reports, Sgt. Bergdahl was under the influence when he walked off his base in Paktika Province, Afghanistan and into the arms of the Haqqani terrorism network.
It is important to note that the Haqqanis are not the same
thing as the Afghan Taliban. The two are different groups. They each have their own distinct and separate leadership council, or “Shura” that they report to. The Haqqanis are heavily tied to both Al Qaeda (providing them safe passage and support) and the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence agency, also known as the ISI.
The Haqqanis are a heavily criminal enterprise sowing and feeding off of the chaos in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region. Envision Al Qaeda crossed with the Sopranos and you begin to get the picture of what these thugs are like.”

“Contrary to press reports, the Afghan Taliban – aka the Quetta Shura – never had their hands on Sgt. Bergdahl. He was always under the control of the Haqqani network. The Haqqanis care first and foremost about the Haqqanis. To my previous example, they are 80% Sopranos and 20% terrorists. It always comes down to the money with them, always, which makes the terms of Sgt. Bergdahl’s release so curious.”

“Why would the Haqqanis ever hand over a hostage (referred to locally as “Golden Sparrows’) as valuable as Sgt. Bergdahl without getting anything in return? Four of the Gitmo prisoners being released by the United States are not Haqqanis, but rather Afghan Taliban.
So then why release the Afghan Taliban prisoners from Gitmo at all?
Better yet, why was the U.S. even negotiating with the Quetta Shura when it was the Haqqanis who had Sgt. Bergdahl?
None of this make any sense- unless something else was going on.”

“If the Obama Administration did pay a ransom to the Haqqanis – through the Quetta Shura, the Pakistani ISI, or via a wealthy Middle Eastern Haqqani supporter acting as a middleman – the United States would have knowingly funded a terrorist organization. The United States would need a big fig leaf to hide that funding from the public and the Afghan Taliban/Quetta Shura would have gladly played along. They would have also made the United States pay through the nose for that cooperation.
Judging by the list of terrorists the U.S. was forced to release, that’s one possible interpretation of what happened.”

tencole on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

be a darling and publish all the soldiers names who died looking for that traitor :) Thanks

Scrumpy on June 4, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Better. Here are their photos:

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2014/06/was-bowe-bergdahl-pow-or-deserter-does_2.html

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

It’s a dogwhistle to the Lefty blogosphere. Watch them all line up today to try to push this meme. It will be hilarious.

rockmom on June 4, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Yea, it’ll be a laugh riot watching them try this on the eve of the 70th anniversary of D-Day.

Tone deaf dog whistle. Just about right for the Obama psychophants.

MichaelGabriel on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Go to the Mexican store.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Would that be in a Mexican-American enclave?

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Si, señor.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 12:09 PM

After all, he has the hat. He has the hat to this day!!

/Leftist spin is always fun.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Are you sure he still has it?
He didn’t throw the hat over the WH fence with his medals?

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Hecho en Mexico.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Former Soldier: Military Told Unit To “Not Tell the Truth” About Bergdahl…

Via Noah Rothman:

In an appearance on Fox & Friends on Wednesday, retired Army Spc. Josh Fuller, a soldier who served with Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl since 2008, said that the military informed him and other soldiers that the “narrative” they should maintain is that Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban rather than that he intentionally left his base. When asked if he believed he was told not to “tell the truth” about Bergdahl by military authorities, Fuller said that he did.

“The sentiment that everybody knew was that he walked off the base in the middle of the night, left all his gear there, and went – just walked off the post,” Fuller said. “So, we had all known that it was — that he had deserted his post, and there was never anything about him getting captured or POW until a little while later whenever it came down from the chain of command that we needed to keep quiet and not say anything.”

“We’re going with the narrative that he was captured,” Fuller said of the military’s position on Bergdahl’s alleged desertion.

“So, they basically told you not to tell the truth,” Fox host Brian Kilmeade said.

“Yes, sir,” Fuller replied.

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Even soldiers critical of Bergdahl are saying that’s not true.
Read a little bit more than the right rage blogs sometimes.
It just leaves you angry and uninformed.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Even the mayor of your city says you’re a pedophile. Stay informed.

NotCoach on June 4, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Thanks again to all those who voted for this FAILURE in 2008 and 2012…

PatriotRider on June 4, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Angy, uninformed, and nasty.
Now, now.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Your attempt at humor betrays you. Your’re not related to bowe are you?

VegasRick on June 4, 2014 at 12:12 PM

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

So Bergdahl and his family are superior and free from criticism, because he served as a U.S. soldier.

melle1228 on June 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Nope.
Though I do think it’s a bit classless to attack the parents of a soldier who has been in captivity (leaving aside all the wild theories) for 5 years.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Better. Here are their photos:

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2014/06/was-bowe-bergdahl-pow-or-deserter-does_2.html

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Thanks. I e-mailed the link to my brothers.

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM

As lawless as he is this mess blew his lawless nature up in his face it’s ironic. So much for that phone,pen huh :)

sorrowen on June 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM

The truth is that 6 men in his platoon, and maybe 8 others in other platoons, died searching for him. And for you the only thing that matters is who is presenting this truth.

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Even soldiers critical of Bergdahl are saying that’s not true.
Read a little bit more than the right rage blogs sometimes.
It just leaves you angry and uninformed.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Bergdahl’s Team Leader: ‘He Is A Deserter. He Is Not A Hero. He Was Looking For The Taliban.’

(CNN) – Former Army Sgt. Evan Buetow was the team leader with Bowe Bergdahl the night Bergdahl disappeared.

“Bergdahl is a deserter, and he’s not a hero,” says Buetow. ”He needs to answer for what he did.”

Within days of his disappearance, says Buetow, teams monitoring radio chatter and cell phone communications intercepted an alarming message: The American is in Yahya Khel (a village two miles away). He’s looking for someone who speaks English so he can talk to the Taliban.

“I heard it straight from the interpreter’s lips as he heard it over the radio,” said Buetow. “There’s a lot more to this story than a soldier walking away.”

The Army will review the case of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “in a comprehensive, coordinated effort,” Secretary of the Army John McHugh said Tuesday.

. . . Buetow was involved in the immediate search for Bergdahl, pushing a patrol into a nearby local village.

“Immediately as we left the base, two small boys walked up to us, and they told us that they saw an American crawling in the weeds by himself,” said the former Army sergeant. The search followed that lead, and others, for months.

“For 60 days or more, I remember, just straight, all we did was search for Bergdahl,” said Buetow, “essentially chasing a ghost because we never came up with anything.”

At least six soldiers were killed in subsequent searches for him, according to soldiers involved in those operations.

The Pentagon was not able to provide details on specific operations in which any soldiers were killed during that time were involved.

Buetow says even though those operations were not “directed missions” to search for Bergdahl, there was an underlying premise of acting on intelligence to find the missing soldier.

“The fact of the matter is, when those soldiers were killed, they would not have been where they were at if Bergdahl hadn’t left,” says Buetow. “Bergdahl leaving changed the mission.”

Many soldiers in Bergdahl’s platoon said attacks seemed to increase against the United States in Paktika province in the days and weeks following his disappearance.

“Following his disappearance, IEDs started going off directly under the trucks. They were getting perfect hits every time. Their ambushes were very calculated, very methodical,” said Buetow.

It was “very suspicious,” says Buetow, noting that Bergdahl knew sensitive information about the movement of U.S. trucks, the weaponry on those trucks, and how soldiers would react to attacks.

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Angy, uninformed, and nasty.
Now, now.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Your attempt at humor betrays you. Your’re not related to bowe are you?

VegasRick on June 4, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Apologies for the misspelling.
It happens.
Forgive me?

(E.g.: ‘Your’re not related’)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM

the blonde bimbo spokesslut

KOOLAID2 on June 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM

That video will play well, closer to Nov. State is full of young and stupid Baghdad Bobbies.

Schadenfreude on June 4, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Any predictions on what the next bit of oppo is, or who the target will be?

.
Trying the “Swift Boat” defense given the amount of documentation of Bergdahl’s desertion that existed from liberal media sources made me think of a parallel political problem:

The “Brain Trust” in Overdrive

First, they need a midget …

PolAgnostic on June 4, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Verbaluce, they are NOT “wild theories” & calling them such doesn’t make them such…. he walked off the COP, without his IBA or weapon…. only an IDIOT or a DESERTER would do such, please make your choice, now.

& I’m sure you can direct us to those stories that are critical of Bergdahl but say those men didn’t die looking for Bergdahl.

JFKY on June 4, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Nope.
Though I do think it’s a bit classless to attack the parents of a soldier who has been in captivity (leaving aside all the wild theories) for 5 years.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:12 PM

It isn’t a theory when the father of America tweets this:

“I am still working to free all Guantanamo prisoners” “God will repay for the death of every Afghan child, ameen.”

melle1228 on June 4, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Whatever, what would a combat team leader know about anything, the civilians occupying the WH have a better handle on it.

Bishop on June 4, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Ah, there it is the NYT, you don’t have to link now Verbaluce…

JFKY on June 4, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Aaaaand now Drudge has new link on story about 3 more platoon members speaking out.

Drip, meet deluge.

SteveInRTP on June 4, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Verbaluce, grow a brain.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 12:17 PM

“Guys are dead because of him,” says one soldier involved in recovery operations. “Several KIA and others severely wounded.”

“The amount of pain he’s caused,” says one of Bergdahl’s platoon mates, his voice trailing off. After a long pause, he resumes. “The time he was DUSTWUN was the most miserable time of my life. It was absolute hell. A bunch of us had a pact if we found him. We’d each get him in a room for five minutes and short of killing him we could do what we want.”

“There were times—there are still times—when I turn on the TV and I wish they’d just beheaded him on TV and gotten it over with.”

‘He walked off. He left his guard post. Nobody knows if he defected or he’s a traitor or he was kidnapped. What I do know is he was there to protect us and instead he decided to defect from America and go and do his own thing. I don’t know why he decided to do that, but we spend so much of our resources and some of those resources were soldiers’ lives.’

– Former Private First Class Jose Baggett

‘Meet my husband, injuries directly brought to you by the actions of this traitor. He can’t give an account of what went down, because he can no longer speak. Now, which guy is a ‘hero’ again?!? Sick.

- Mrs Army MSG Mark Allen, her husband was one of the men searching for Bergdahl; he received a bullet in his brain for his effort

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM

So much for executive power and pen and phone. What a cosmic joke…

sorrowen on June 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Though I do think it’s a bit classless to attack the parents of a soldier who has been in captivity (leaving aside all the wild theories) for 5 years.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:12 PM

I think it is more than a bit “classless” for a U.S. citizen, een the father of a soldier detained by the enemy, to promote the Taliban while standing in the Rose Garden of the White House.

Do we need to review who the Taliban are? What they do? Shall we start with slaughtered schoolgirls?

You defend the indefensible, you worthless piece of sh**.

M240H on June 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Obama’s aim was to 1) distract from the VA scandal and 2) by doing something outrageous himself, drive our side to do/say something stupid.

faraway on June 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Obviously, phase 4 is to pivot back to the VA scandal to take everyone’s mind off of the Bergdahl scandal.

It’s either that or pivot to the two main problems Americans are really concerned about: CO2 and voter suppression.

I can’t wait for November.

Fred 2 on June 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Allah –
Colorful. But who is making an effort to discredit or denigrate these soldiers?
Do you consider mentioning (or as you call it, ‘hyperventilating over’) the mere fact there was/is an effort by GOP strategists to manage these guys?
But maybe Grenell & co were merely offering a lift to various news studios. Nothing more than ‘hey, you can use my cell phone for this interview if you like’.
How nice of them!
So aside from pointing to that, what terrible things are being said about this soldiers? And who is saying it?

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Which GOP strategists, specifically?

Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Verbaluce, grow a brain.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 12:17 PM

It’s worse than stupidity. It is self-exiled ignorance. I mean the evidence is all overwhelming, but Verbie just closes his/her eyes, and sticks their finger in their ears and yells “hope and change” “hope and change.”

melle1228 on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Thanks Sophie :)

You are HA’s treasure for gathering info, and I appreciate you so much!!

Scrumpy on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

I figure PETA would be against swiftgoating anybody.

RSbrewer on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Though I do think it’s a bit classless to attack the parents of a soldier who has been in captivity (leaving aside all the wild theories) for 5 years.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Via RWM’s link: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5FVaCow6iJc/U4yt10eIr8I/AAAAAAAAToI/6HwdeIrmIYM/s1600/bergdahl+dad+tweet+1.jpg

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Colorful. But who is making an effort to discredit or denigrate these soldiers?
verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Try reading the article you are commenting on. Per the words written above, and the first article linked in said post, that would be White House sources…

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-white-house-accuses-soldiers-who-served-bergdahl-swift-boating-him_794307.html

cs89 on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM

The Army will review the case of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “in a comprehensive, coordinated effort,” Secretary of the Army John McHugh said Tuesday.

I’m gonna wait on that.
I mean, don’t trust the media…right?
And I’m not shying away from the likelihood that he did desert in some fashion.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

After all, he has the hat. He has the hat to this day!!

/Leftist spin is always fun.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Are you sure he still has it?
He didn’t throw the hat over the WH fence with his medals?

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 12:09 PM

No, John Kerry said he has the hat to this day. And that those were someone else’s medals he threw over the fence back when he claimed … he was throwing his own medals … over the fence…

Wait, you mean he might have lied about the whole thing?

I must say, I am just completely disillusioned now.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Verbaluce, grow a brain.

SC.Charlie on June 4, 2014 at 12:17 PM

BWAHAHAHAH… that aint gonna happen, he’ll grow some morals, ethic’s and a conscience first, and that aint gonna happen either.

oscarwilde on June 4, 2014 at 12:21 PM

The Army will review the case of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “in a comprehensive, coordinated effort,” Secretary of the Army John McHugh said Tuesday.

I’m gonna wait on that.
I mean, don’t trust the media…right?
And I’m not shying away from the likelihood that he did desert in some fashion.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Have you bothered to read the profiles of the Taliban for whom he was traded?

Or are you just selectively curious on this matter?

Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Colorful. But who is making an effort to discredit or denigrate these soldiers?
Do you consider mentioning (or as you call it, ‘hyperventilating over’) the mere fact there was/is an effort by GOP strategists to manage these guys?
But maybe Grenell & co were merely offering a lift to various news studios. Nothing more than ‘hey, you can use my cell phone for this interview if you like’.
How nice of them!
So aside from pointing to that, what terrible things are being said about this soldiers? And who is saying it?

(And you do know where to look if you want to hear terrible and awful things said about a US Soldier and his family, right?)

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

You are. You’re just hiding behind Richard Grenell’s skirt.

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I think it is now safe to say that anything, I mean ANYTHING the White House lackeys now do to try to discredit any soldier who has anything to say against Bergdahl is going to end up not just backfiring, but exploding in their collective faces! It’s like the fire is a raging inferno and all they have to throw on it is gasoline and kerosine!

pilamaye on June 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I’m gonna wait on that.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

And then continue to be a dishonest tool afterwards. We already have the 2010 Pentagon investigation that declared he deserted.

Stay informed, pedophile.

NotCoach on June 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Former Soldier: Military Told Unit To “Not Tell the Truth” About Bergdahl…

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:10 PM

That happens when the truth would look bad for a Dem President.
The same thing happened with Scott O’Grady in Bosnia – who Clinton also made into a hero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_O%27Grady

When I worked at HQ NORAD about 12 years ago, I worked for an Air Force Colonel fighter pilot who was in Bosnia when the O’Grady thing happened. He said he produced a briefing on “The 10 Things Captain O’Grady Did Wrong That Should Have Gotten Him Killed”. Because Clinton wanted to make O’Grady a hero, the briefing was ordered to be destroyed and never spoken of again.

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM

….And I’m not shying away from the likelihood that he did desert in some fashion.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Is that like being a little bit pregnant?

You are the most OBTUSE person…

I suggest you all, myself included, just stop engaging this nitwit.

Scrumpy on June 4, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Wait, you mean he might have lied about the whole thing?
I must say, I am just completely disillusioned now.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM

LOL!
You and me both….

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Long time reader first post since getting booted from bigyellowtetherballs years ago. (not taxfreekiller,,,,,)

IMO Bammy’s goal was to provoke and record what he thought would be biggotted backlash about the Rose Garden showcasing of the Talidad of a servicemember who “served with dignity,” all so he could SHAME the nation.

Also, can we start adding to the equation the number of soldiers killed while capturing the T5?

thisisthetime on June 4, 2014 at 12:25 PM

….And I’m not shying away from the likelihood that he did desert in some fashion.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

The men who FOUGHT SIDE BY SIDE with Bergdahl are calling him a TRAITOR.

Any ideas why they would do that if it weren’t true?

Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 12:26 PM

I think it is now safe to say that anything, I mean ANYTHING the White House lackeys now do to try to discredit any soldier who has anything to say against Bergdahl is going to end up not just backfiring, but exploding in their collective faces! It’s like the fire is a raging inferno and all they have to throw on it is gasoline and kerosine!

pilamaye on June 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM

That’s all they have. Venom. This administration is nothing but snakes, and vile ones at that. The verbies of the world that defend them are just as bad.

VegasRick on June 4, 2014 at 12:26 PM

I did not think it would get this hot this soon truely amazing O! That pen and phone landed him in deep shit :)

sorrowen on June 4, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Obama’s aim was to 1) distract from the VA scandal and 2) by doing something outrageous himself, drive our side to do/say something stupid.

faraway on June 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Not just the VA scandal.
Don’t forget the EPA just put out new power plant emmissions regs that will force the shutdown of numerous power plants, higher energy costs, and most likely rolling blackouts in many areas.

dentarthurdent on June 4, 2014 at 12:27 PM

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

When did you develop a resistance to pesticide? Maybe my spray can is broken.

#IdiotControlNow

#BuckFarack

Nutstuyu on June 4, 2014 at 12:27 PM

And I’m not shying away from the likelihood that he did desert in some fashion.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Desertion is never fashionable.

SteveInRTP on June 4, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Each and every one of the soldiers coming forward, plus family members of those who died searching for him, will most likely ALL get an IRS audit. Probably sooner rather than later.

Mind you they will then bring THAT up to turn up the heat on the IRS scandals.

What do you do when every dirty trick you have to play has been played out before and now is out in the open? For being so intelligent, the Obama crew just isn’t all that bright.

ajacksonian on June 4, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Colorful. But who is making an effort to discredit or denigrate these soldiers?
verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Try reading the article you are commenting on. Per the words written above, and the first article linked in said post, that would be White House sources…

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-white-house-accuses-soldiers-who-served-bergdahl-swift-boating-him_794307.html

cs89 on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

I did read it – and I did watch the clip.

Todd:
I’ve had a few aides describe it to me as we didn’t know that they were going to swift boat Bergdahl.

That’s what Allah built his case on?
And you think by ‘they’ it referred to the soldiers who have spoken out?
I see that as some serious leaps.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Any odds or chance that the U.N. could bring charges against the fool who released the scumbags wanted by the U.N.? I understand nothing will be done, but if we had an “R” in the White House? Just curious, picking brains here…

OldWeaselKeeper on June 4, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Even soldiers critical of Bergdahl are saying that’s not true.
Read a little bit more than the right rage blogs sometimes.
It just leaves you angry and uninformed.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

From c*n*n, the URLs of which are blocked. Hardly a “right rage blog”: http://tinyurl.com/knxd2cc

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 12:29 PM

You mean the same father that praised Taliban attacks on US bases?

sentinelrules on June 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM

.
No, he means the father who sent this tweet 3 days before his son’s release:

@ABalkhi I am still working to free all Guantamo prisoners. God will repay for the death of every Afghan child, ameen!

PolAgnostic on June 4, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Stay informed, pedophile.

NotCoach on June 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM

You are one odd rager.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Marcus Luttrell was on Glenn Beck this morning. He always speaks in a low key way, but he was very NOT pleased about an admin spokesperson who said that the platoon mates who were there didn’t know what they were talking about.

From what I can see, folks in the military are just getting angrier with every lame thing the admin comes out with on this.

juliesa on June 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Even soldiers critical of Bergdahl are saying that’s not true.
Read a little bit more than the right rage blogs sometimes.
It just leaves you angry and uninformed.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Verbie, I don’t need the media to tell me what to think. The military already found – in 2010 – that the fact that Bergdahl ‘walked away’ from his post was ‘incontrovertible.’ Besides, I can make a determination by listening to those that served with and/or searched for Bergdahl…like those that I cited above and Tyler Maples…

Tyler N Tonya Maples

Traitor. He was in my platoon when he went AWOL. 2nd platoon, blackfoot co 1-501 PIR. Two of my fellow peers lost their lives in the pursuit of this coward. The fact that they promoted him to the rank of a non commissioned officer and called him a ‘hero’ is a slap in the face to the families of my fallen brother and the solders whom fought by our side in OEF 9-10, Patika province

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM

I did read it – and I did watch the clip.

Todd:
I’ve had a few aides describe it to me as we didn’t know that they were going to swift boat Bergdahl.

That’s what Allah built his case on?
And you think by ‘they’ it referred to the soldiers who have spoken out?
I see that as some serious leaps.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Do you really not know what “swiftboating” means? It’s when your fellow SOLDIERS speak against you.

Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 12:32 PM

You are. You’re just hiding behind Richard Grenell’s skirt.

Resist We Much on June 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Not following you here.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Even soldiers critical of Bergdahl are saying that’s not true.
Read a little bit more than the right rage blogs sometimes.
It just leaves you angry and uninformed.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

So…enlighten us. Link to some copy about that.

Buck Farky on June 4, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Though I do think it’s a bit classless to attack the parents of a soldier who has been in captivity (leaving aside all the wild theories) for 5 years.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Bergdahl of Mecca links Taliban propaganda vids on his twitter account. In fact he recently lamented that a certain Taliban savage had his youtube account suspended, Dear Dad tried to erase that tweet but the intertoobz are forever and someone wisely kept a screenshot.

Quit acting like the parents are saintly folks baking apple pies for the troops, can’t say much about mom but dad is a full-blown jihadi minus the bomb vest.

Bishop on June 4, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Colorful. But who is making an effort to discredit or denigrate these soldiers?

So aside from pointing to that, what terrible things are being said about this soldiers? And who is saying it?
verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Liberal viewpoint.

1) THe information about Kerry was untrue, all lies, and “swiftboating” is simply lying about a proud solider doiung his duty.

2) These soldiers are “swiftboating” poor Bergdahl.

3) We didn’t say anything bad about those soldiers at all. We just implied strongly we think they’re all partisan hacks and liars who are trying to discredit Bergdahl for partisan gain.

Nothing wrong in there at all.. right?

Or are you now arguing that “swiftboating” in no way implies it’s wrong, and the people doing it are liars?

Weird… you used to think otherwise about “swiftboating” but now it’s a good thing decent people would do, and in no way an insult of any sort… right?

Or does that definition change on your whim from one to the other without ever having a real meaning for anyone?

gekkobear on June 4, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Chuck Schick on June 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Don’t you remember…you chased me away.
I’m not here.

verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Colorful. But who is making an effort to discredit or denigrate these soldiers?
verbaluce on June 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel slammed critics of released Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who have openly questioned the events that led to his disappearance in 2009.

“We don’t do that in the United States,” he said of Bergdahl’s former military comrades, who claim he deserted his post out of sympathy for the Afghan people.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/chuck-hagel-blasts-critics-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-article-1.1816597

davidk on June 4, 2014 at 12:33 PM

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