Report: Bergdahl suggested he wanted to renounce his citizenship in note he left before disappearing; Update: Sought Taliban for talks?

posted at 5:21 pm on June 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

Sure would be nice to have some actual text from the note to judge. Saying that he “suggested” he might renounce his citizenship could mean anything from “I’ve booked an appointment at the embassy” to something as vague as “I’m sick of America,” depending upon how charitable you want to be about his intentions.

Also, while damning evidence of his intent to desert, I’m not sure this would fundamentally change the legal case against him even if it’s true.

Sources who had debriefed two former members of Bergdahl’s unit told Fox News Bergdahl left behind a note the night he left base in which he expressed disillusionment with the Army and being an American and suggested that he wanted to renounce his American citizenship and go find the Taliban. U.S. military officials would not confirm the existence of the letter, but if it does exist, it would likely be part of the original file on the investigation into Bergdahl’s disappearance.

He wrote to his father more than once that he was ashamed to be an American but that’s not a renunciation. If it was, half the country would lose its citizenship on election night. In order to formally renounce, you need to follow these three steps; Bergdahl could conceivably have followed the last two, but if he didn’t appear before a diplomatic officer, his renunciation is ineffective. In fact, the Fox report quoted above doesn’t even assert that he did, in fact, renounce his citizenship. It says he wanted to, which is circumstantial evidence supporting the desertion theory but would mean that he was still an American citizen when he went missing. Maybe not a very good one, which makes the high price paid to get him back seem that much higher, but a citizen nonetheless.

What about the bombshell yesterday, though, about Bergdahl possibly having collaborated with the Taliban? Doesn’t expressing an intent to renounce his citizenship provide some support for that? I’m not sure. It’s possible to imagine him being disgusted with the U.S. and its war effort but not necessarily wanting to help the Taliban. The detail on renunciation could be useful supporting evidence of intent on a treason charge if you have other evidence that he joined the Taliban willingly and/or waged war against American troops. But even there, you hit a snag: A person can be charged with treason only if he owes allegiance to the United States. Arguing that Bergdahl owed that allegiance even though he meant to renounce it but was unable to simply because he couldn’t set up a meeting with a diplomatic officer first might be hard for a jury to digest.

Question for legal eagles: Is there any way under U.S. law to constructively renounce your citizenship in extraordinary circumstances, even if you haven’t complied with the three statutory steps? I’m guessing no, just because lawmakers would naturally want to make the bar for renunciation high. That’s the point of forcing people to appear before a diplomatic officer to do it — having an agent of the state there solemnizes the act so that the renouncer fully understands how grave his decision is. The law wants you to think, very hard, before you do something this drastic; following proper procedure proves that you have. I can imagine an argument in Bergdahl’s case, though, that nothing concentrates the mind about the solmenity of renunciation quite like doing it in the middle of a war zone, with jihadi savages ready to pounce one you’re outside the wire. If the goal of the statute is to ensure due deliberation and clear evidence of intent, it’s possible by virtue of his note that Bergdahl satisfied both of those conditions. Which is not, however, to say that I think a court would find that way. No one wants to start writing exceptions into the law governing renunciation to make it easier for people to do it.

Exit question: What are the odds that Bergdahl would be tried for treason even if they had a bunch of evidence showing that he assisted the Taliban? Given that doing so would amount to a catastrophic admission by Obama that he traded away five dangerous prisoners for a traitor, the odds are absolute zero. Not even a tiny bit higher.

Update: Deeper and deeper. Jake Tapper lands an interview with Evan Buetow, Bergdahl’s team leader the night he disappeared:

Within days of his disappearance, says Buetow, teams monitoring radio chatter and cell phone communications intercepted an alarming message: The American is in Yahya Khel (a village two miles away). He’s looking for someone who speaks English so he can talk to the Taliban.

“I heard it straight from the interpreter’s lips as he heard it over the radio,” said Buetow. “There’s a lot more to this story than a soldier walking away.”…

“The fact of the matter is, when those soldiers were killed, they would not have been where they were at if Bergdahl hadn’t left,” says Buetow. “Bergdahl leaving changed the mission.”


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What VA scandal?

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:23 PM

What are the odds that Bergdahl would be tried for treason even if they had a bunch of evidence showing that he assisted the Taliban?

He will be eliminated before that happens.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:25 PM

The VA scandal that hasn’t even scratched the surface yet. The juicy part is that both that and this debacle concern veterans.

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 5:27 PM

He will be eliminated before that happens.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:25 PM

He s/b eliminated either way, but hopefully after the court-martial.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Every time I think Obama can’t prove himself more idiotic than he already has, he proves me wrong.

SoRight on June 3, 2014 at 5:28 PM

When do the impeachment hearings commence?

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Exit question: What are the odds that Bergdahl would be tried for treason even if they had a bunch of evidence showing that he assisted the Taliban? Given that doing so would amount to a catastrophic admission by Obama that he traded away five dangerous prisoners for a traitor, the odds are absolute zero. Not even a tiny bit higher.

You’re right. It’ll never happen. But that won’t sit well with a lot of Americans. This deal stinks badly enough with Bergdahl suspected of being a deserter whose absence led to the deaths of 14 soldiers who were out looking for him. Imagine how much worse it’ll look if he’s confirmed to be a traitor who aided the enemy in killing even more of our troops.

Doughboy on June 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM

The VA scandal that hasn’t even scratched the surface yet. The juicy part is that both that and this debacle concern veterans.

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 5:27 PM

I thought of that this morning. The one area obama was gon’ really show GWB how it’s done.

Look at this, while Veterans died, on waiting-lists for bonuses.

And make this float, everyone, and always. The cabins are being cleared on the Titanic but the bow is under water already.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Wow. This scandal ain’t stopping!

22044 on June 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Of course Obama sees a traitor as a hero and our troops have to be forced to sign papers not to talk about Obama’s heroes. Whether it’s troops in the field or troops in the hospital there is no man in the military who can escape the loathsomeness of Obama.

HotAirian on June 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM

I am extremely confused by all of this. I do not like the President, however despite my hate of him I have always found that he takes all his actions with great political calculation. In other words he does whatever it takes to come out smelling like roses. In this case was he completely oblivious to the fact that all this was going to come out about Bergdahl? Or did he just not care? It amazes me that they would take such a huge political risk to bring this guy back without anything to gain politically from it (aside from getting the VA out of the news – but this may now be worse than that).

I just do not get it. I know he is a bad President because I disagree with his policies, but this has to be their worst blunder yet – and it is the product of shear stupidity. Unless I am missing something.

eski502 on June 3, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Sorry, make this float – forgot the link.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Desertion in wartime: capital offense under UCMJ.

Treason: capital offense under U.S. Code.

So there are a couple of different routes for getting a needle into this jackass’s arm.

My prediction: no action will be taken against him whatsoever. The Obama Administration is desperate to claim Bergdahl’s release as a foreign policy “victory”, which are few and far betwen these days, very much does not wish to delve into the curious details of Bergdahl’s disappearance, or the shady deal that led to his release.

As for the Army, Bergdahl is an embarrassment: at best, a naive idiot whose rash decision put himself and his fellow soldiers in unnecessary jeopardy; and, at worst, a traitor who may have wilfully collaborated with the enemy.

So there will be intense political pressure, from the very top, to just sweep this under the rug and make it all go away. So I anticipate that, in a few months, after the current firestorm has died down, we will hear that Bergdahl was quietly discharged and that the “case is closed”.

Hayabusa on June 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM

I’m so angry I can’t even post about this. Good soldiers died for this loser.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Watch Brad Thor on the Kelley Files, tonight.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM

You know the press will have to spin him into a war hero.

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Exit question: What are the odds that Bergdahl would be tried for treason even if they had a bunch of evidence showing that he assisted the Taliban? Given that doing so would amount to a catastrophic admission by Obama that he traded away five dangerous prisoners for a traitor, the odds are absolute zero. Not even a tiny bit higher.

I’ll settle for desertion. That one’s serious enough in itself. No need to get bogged down in a legal thicket over “did he or did he not commit treason”.

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM

I bet Obama wishes all he had to deal with was the VA scandal..

sandee on June 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Wow. This scandal ain’t stopping!

22044 on June 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM

It has barely begun. There are 14 dead, due to these traitors, so far, more to come, way more.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Exit question: What are the odds that Bergdahl would be tried for treason even if they had a bunch of evidence showing that he assisted the Taliban? Given that doing so would amount to a catastrophic admission by Obama that he traded away five dangerous prisoners for a traitor, the odds are absolute zero. Not even a tiny bit higher.

Nothing more to add…that’s spot on. I wouldn’t count on that letter Bergdahl left when he deserted every seeing the light of day again either…that’s up in flames by now.

AUINSC on June 3, 2014 at 5:32 PM

You know the press will have to spin him into a war hero.

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM

There’s nothing there there. They’d have to make a hero out of hot air.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 5:32 PM

John Walker Lind wasnt tried for treason, and he was caught on the battlefield after shooting at US personnel. This guy aint going to get treason. Maybe legally they are different, but not in my eyes.

MikeInBA on June 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Obama is a lawyer and employs lawyers who are exceptional at 2 things. 1: delaying investigations
2: Getting cases thrown out due to lack of standing.

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Exit question: What are the odds that Bergdahl would be tried for treason even if they had a bunch of evidence showing that he assisted the Taliban? Given that doing so would amount to a catastrophic admission by Obama that he traded away five dangerous prisoners for a traitor, the odds are absolute zero. Not even a tiny bit higher.

Nothing more to add…that’s spot on. I wouldn’t count on that letter Bergdahl left when he deserted every seeing the light of day again either…that’s up in flames by now.

AUINSC on June 3, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Well, if the GOP wins in the fall the window to try him re-opens.

eski502 on June 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM

When do the impeachment hearings commence?

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:28 PM

I hope now a groundswell of outrage across the country will finally give this traction. He should be impeached. Then tarred and feathered and run out of DC on a rail! (scenes we’d like to see)

otlset on June 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM

The applicable law on surrender or forfeiture of citizenship is Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481). It states that Americans citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain specified acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. These acts are:

1. Obtain naturalization in a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA).

2. Take an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA).

3. Enter or serve in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the U.S. or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA).

4. Accept employment with a foreign government if (a) one has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) an oath or declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position (Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA).

5. Formally renounce U.S. citizenship before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer outside the United States (sec. 349 (a) (5) INA).

6. Formally renounce U.S. citizenship within the U.S. (but only under strict, narrow statutory conditions) (Sec. 349 (a) (6) INA).

7. Be convicted of an act of treason (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).

Of course, one doesn’t actually have to be an American to serve in the United States military; thus, the ‘we leave no man behind’ principle applies to non-citizens, as well. BUT, renunciation of citizenship would serve as the final nail in the coffin to prove the intent to desert.

Also, from a pr standpoint, it is very difficult to argue that we should have expended so much blood and treasure, along with giving up 5 top-level terrorists, on an individual, who renounces his citizenship and deserts/defects.

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM

When do the impeachment hearings commence?

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:28 PM

That’s crazy talk.

We can’t impeach a sitting president.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM

I apologize if other’s have stated this conclusion already today, but I had a sudden epiphany.

Susan Rice wasn’t lying when she said that he “served with honor and distinction.” She actually believes that to be the truth. See, in her mind he did a “noble” thing when he abandoned his unit because he didn’t want to be a part of Big Bad America.

These people are our enemies. They have the same goals. The only difference is their methods, and I don’t pretend for a second that they wouldn’t kill us all if they had the chance.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Ok, I thought by now everyone knew he JOINED the Taliban. Is that still a question for people?

Capitalist Infidel on June 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM

The VA scandal that hasn’t even scratched the surface yet. The juicy part is that both that and this debacle concern veterans.

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Obama’s hope that his historic ascendence to the Oval Office would give him latitude in terms of his legacy has been permanently torpedoed. These 2 scandals strike at what the citizenry consider to be hallowed people/ideals. There’s no recovering from that now.

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Drip

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM

John Walker Lind wasnt tried for treason, and he was caught on the battlefield after shooting at US personnel. This guy aint going to get treason. Maybe legally they are different, but not in my eyes.

MikeInBA on June 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Very true. They never charge treason anymore. Tsarnaev was also eligible for it, but they chose another route to pursue his death penalty case. I think they could charge it in all this case – but it just so happens that their are easier crimes to prove in both military and civilian courts that carry the same sentences. If you can get the punishment you want using a crime with a lower standard of proof then that is the way to go.

eski502 on June 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Ok, I thought by now everyone knew he JOINED the Taliban. Is that still a question for people?

Capitalist Infidel on June 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Joined the Taliban? Served with honor and distinction?

Dude, that was like five years ago. What difference, at this point, does it make?

Happy Nomad on June 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Drip

Bmore on June 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM

With all the stupidity going on I wonder what Barry will read next in the newspaper? He is running out of departments that aren’t involved in a scandal.

Sven on June 3, 2014 at 5:38 PM

But even there, you hit a snag: A person can be charged with treason only if he owes allegiance to the United States. Arguing that Bergdahl owed that allegiance even though he meant to renounce it but was unable to simply because he couldn’t set up a meeting with a diplomatic officer first might be hard for a jury to digest.

True, but he could be charged with espionage; provided, he effectively renounced his citizenship (he didn’t in my opinion) and supplied the Taliban with intel.

Not that it particularly matters because it would never happen with this adminnistration, but both treason and espionage are (were?) capital offences. The Rosenbergs, who were as guilty as sin, were convicted of and executed for espionage, not treason.

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 5:39 PM

“internet rumors”. Lindsey Graham

Wigglesworth on June 3, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Well, if the GOP wins in the fall the window to try him re-opens.

eski502 on June 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Nah…control over that rests solely with POTUS as CinC…so I think we can be assured that it will never happen while Obama is in office (or Hillary).

AUINSC on June 3, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Obama is a lawyer and employs lawyers who are exceptional at 2 things. 1: delaying investigations
2: Getting cases thrown out due to lack of standing.

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM

ZZZZZZZZZZT. Show me his credentials please. Then perhaps we can consider taking you seriously. Otherwise, you’re nothing but a hairball on a thread.

Key West Reader on June 3, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Well, if the GOP wins in the fall the window to try him re-opens.

eski502 on June 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Nah…control over that rests solely with POTUS as CinC…so I think we can be assured that it will never happen while Obama is in office (or Hillary).

AUINSC on June 3, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Could happen under threat of impeachment.

eski502 on June 3, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Joined the Taliban? Served with honor and distinction?

He served the Taliban with honor and distinction. He is an American who served what he believed in. Why are you so bigoted against the Taliban. H8r!

/s and lots of it

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:41 PM

The detail on renunciation could be useful supporting evidence of intent on a treason charge if you have other evidence that he joined the Taliban willingly and/or waged war against American troops.

Treason Smeason.

Desertion, is Article 85 of the UCMJ:

Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct,

the drill sgt on June 3, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Wolfie has his squirrel ….bad weather in Nebraska

OC please stay safe ya hear?

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Just wanted to note something. The State Department is full of fellow travelers (left-wing academia types). The Benghazi NDAs stuck. The military is still full of plenty of patriots. The Bergdahl NDAs are turning out to be toilet paper.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:41 PM

It’s starting to sound to me like Bergdahl is a straight out traitor, not a POW at all. You don’t trade the five highest ranking Taliban terrorists for a traitor. In fact, our armed forces, in terms of a traitor, would seek to kill or capture him. So this trade is upside down.

No trades for traitors!

anotherJoe on June 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM

<blockquoteTrue, but he could be charged with espionage; provided, he effectively renounced his citizenship (he didn’t in my opinion) and supplied the Taliban with intel.

Not that it particularly matters because it would never happen with this adminnistration, but both treason and espionage are (were?) capital offences. The Rosenbergs, who were as guilty as sin, were convicted of and executed for espionage, not treason.

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 5:39 PM

All of this will fall under the UCMJ not civilian courts.
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Sven on June 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Every bergdahl supporter in his “home town” needs to be re-educated with rubber bullets and baton courtesy, service with a smile.

Then the hanging for desertion, sedition, and treason can commence.

Diluculo on June 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM

John Walker Lind wasnt tried for treason, and he was caught on the battlefield after shooting at US personnel. This guy aint going to get treason. Maybe legally they are different, but not in my eyes.

MikeInBA on June 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Johnny Walker Lind was not serving in uniform. He did not raise his hand and swear that he would:

Protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

That he would bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution.

That he would obey the orders of the President and the officers appointed over him according to regulation and the UCMJ.

Bergdahl swore to all that. If you can show me where abandoning his unit in a combat zone, renouncing his citizenship, and quite possibly defected to the enemy isn’t treason- well then you’ve got the heart of an ambulance chasing lawyer.

Happy Nomad on June 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Every time I think Obama can’t prove himself more idiotic than he already has, he proves me wrong.

SoRight on June 3, 2014 at 5:28 PM

and yet he gets away with it every single time, it beats me.

jimver on June 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM

With all the stupidity going on I wonder what Barry will read next in the newspaper? He is running out of departments that aren’t involved in a scandal.

Sven on June 3, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Given the stance of the NYT, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, et al I’m thinking that Barry might just wake up and realize he sh*t his bed.

After his morning coffee, I’m sure.

/Oh, to be a servant in the Obama Quarters tomorrow morning would be … eek.

Key West Reader on June 3, 2014 at 5:43 PM

What difference does it make?

right2bright on June 3, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Key West Reader on June 3, 2014 at 5:40 PM

So… you don’t think he is good at delaying investigations and getting cases thrown out due to lack of standing?

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:44 PM

There’s nothing there there. They’d have to make a hero out of hot air.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 5:32 PM

.
Barack.
Hussein.
Obama.
I rest my case.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on June 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

That’s crazy talk.

We can’t impeach a sitting president.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM

There’s no way only because there is no will.

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

No one here needs to be told to avoid HuffPo, but I took a peek, and it really is like reverse bizarro world there. The headline is Harry Reid going after dark money–yes, the Koch brothers are their main concern today. Commenters on the Bertgdahl story are siding with Bergdahl against the US and…Bush!, and saying this is all just politics. It seems they haven’t even read the NYT story they’re commenting on, which is a pretty straightforward article on Bergdahl’s desertion.

Sorry, I needed to vent on the insanity I just saw.

juliesa on June 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Chaos. It’s what’s for dinner.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

I think Obama’s greatest fear at the moment is that this event will cause many others throughout the government to rat him and his administration out. From top to bottom.

Folks, the Presidency is not going to improve until Jan 2017. It can only get worse. And it will. The question now is “how bad will the DNC let it get before they ‘encourage’ Obama to resign”?

BobMbx on June 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Wow. This scandal ain’t stopping!

22044 on June 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM

I give it two more days.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Exit question: What are the odds that Bergdahl would be tried for treason even if they had a bunch of evidence showing that he assisted the Taliban? Given that doing so would amount to a catastrophic admission by Obama that he traded away five dangerous prisoners for a traitor, the odds are absolute zero. Not even a tiny bit higher.

Yeah, but look at what it did. This got the economy crushing new EPA regulations out of the news.

rbj on June 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Like a practiced magician, the Obama team will continue to pull scandals from the hat to dazzle the audience!

Ukiah on June 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

True, but he could be charged with espionage; provided, he effectively renounced his citizenship (he didn’t in my opinion) and supplied the Taliban with intel.

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 5:39 PM

If it is true that he helped the enemy after defecting from his Army post, then how “effectively” he renounced his citizenship is moot.

Happy Nomad on June 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Ok, I thought by now everyone knew he JOINED the Taliban. Is that still a question for people?

Capitalist Infidel on June 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM

He joined the “good” Taliban, the kind that build roads, schools, and hospitals according to Patty Murray(D-Al Queda).

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM

There’s no way only because there is no will.

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

It’s political suicide.

That’s mainly because our side is so poor at messaging and orchestrating our messaging. But it is the reality.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama wasn’t trying to goad the GOP into impeaching him.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM

This is an Administration that will release Taliban leaders to rescue a U.S. citizen who deserted the army and may have aided the Taliban, only to turn around and blow up other U.S. citizens from space without a trial if they aid terror groups. Expecting some sort of rational test for which acts apply is not realistic.

JeremiahJohnson on June 3, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Joined the Taliban? Served with honor and distinction?
Dude, that was like five years ago. What difference, at this point, does it make?

Happy Nomad on June 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I wonder if the taliban have better medical care for their veterans?
He may want to go back once he finds out what the VA will do for him here.

dentarthurdent on June 3, 2014 at 5:48 PM

He joined the “good” Taliban, the kind that build roads, schools, and hospitals according to Patty Murray(D-Al Queda).

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Such a wholesome bunch.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Wow….cant link but check out twitchy …..mad magazine nails it on this
boondoggle

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 5:48 PM

To impeach, there would have to be a completed congressional investigation. How many has Issa completed?

Issa: I need information from the white house
WH: No
Issa: You’re in contempt
WH: ….
Issa: …

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Do we have a name for this scandal yet?

If we had known there were going to be so many, we should have numbered them.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

What difference does it make?

right2bright on June 3, 2014 at 5:43 PM

It’s the difference between watching your country shoot the tubes on the way to the septic tank, or doing something about it.

Yes, I know your comment included /sarc, but there was no /sarc tag.

Diluculo on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

O/T but good news….

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Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Do we have a name for this scandal yet?

Tuesday

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Do we have a name for this scandal yet?

If we had known there were going to be so many, we should have numbered them.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Fast & Curious?

Flange on June 3, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Holy shit this might be worse then the VA scandal. I mean damn

sorrowen on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

I give it two more days.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Congressional hearings start next week. This thing has legs at least until those are finished.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama wasn’t trying to goad the GOP into impeaching him.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM

I think the call to impeach would have to originate from the other side. The key is to make this thing politically toxic for Democratic candidates in the run-up to the mid-terms.

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

In the good ole days, when America still had morals and was a super power, people who did what Bergdahl did, were just lined up against a wall, and shot.

oscarwilde on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Edward Snowden who exposed illegal NSA spying, Traitor. Abdullah Bergdahl who trained the Haqqani network on bomb making and provided info to the enemy, War hero. Welcome to the destruction of the USA

Brock Robamney on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

What are the odds that Bergdahl would be tried for treason even if they had a bunch of evidence showing that he assisted the Taliban? Given that doing so would amount to a catastrophic admission by Obama that he traded away five dangerous prisoners for a traitor, the odds are absolute zero. Not even a tiny bit higher.

Hey if he didn’t find out about how bad those people were until he read about it in the NYT or WaPo…… well nobody would be madder than Obama and he might be willing to act.

Fact of the matter is that we are about to get to see a royal temper tantrum. The rolled out Tali-dad and Tali-mom on Saturday and thought that Obama would get all sorts of credit on the Sunday talk shows for rolling up his sleeves and doing what was necessary to “bring Bowe home.” It hasn’t worked out that way so we are soon to see the Obama irate that anybody dares question what he did with that pen and phone. The tell will be when he starts sputtering about the right thing to do.

And Dems everywhere are scared to death that the five released terrorists are going to kill Americans at an inconvenient time for Dem’s electoral hopes.

Happy Nomad on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Do we have a name for this scandal yet?

If we had known there were going to be so many, we should have numbered them.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

The Young & The Treasonous.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Could happen under threat of impeachment.

eski502 on June 3, 2014 at 5:40 PM

It’s a beautiful dream…but just a dream. Anyway, if it were politically possible (and I’m pretty sure it’s not)…I’d rather they just impeach him…forget the threat.

AUINSC on June 3, 2014 at 5:53 PM

So… you don’t think he is good at delaying investigations and getting cases thrown out due to lack of standing?

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Bagock Obama isn’t good at anything to be honest.. Eric Holder? Meh. He’s an affirmative action hack, good at nothing other than his cheap ass suit.

sue me.

Key West Reader on June 3, 2014 at 5:53 PM

To impeach, there would have to be a completed congressional investigation. How many has Issa completed?

Issa: I need information from the white house
WH: No
Issa: You’re in contempt
WH: ….
Issa: …

tdarrington on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Issa, who was once my congressman, not only lacks a sack, but anything to put in it as well.

oscarwilde on June 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM

I think the call to impeach would have to originate from the other side. The key is to make this thing politically toxic for Democratic candidates in the run-up to the mid-terms.

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

No DEMOCRAT will ever call for Obama’s impeachment, even if he committed mass murder on live tv…

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Could happen under threat of impeachment.

eski502 on June 3, 2014 at 5:40 PM

I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:56 PM

The joint chiefs of staff last seen skyping with Thai military leaders for pointers…..

can_con on June 3, 2014 at 5:56 PM

No DEMOCRAT will ever call for Obama’s impeachment, even if he committed mass murder on live tv…

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Yeah, my original comment was tongue-in-cheek, but we can dream, right?

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Remember how this thing works before we all pop the corks. The media gets pissy at Obama for lying, then he tells more lies and they are happy.

I fully expect the Obama slime to leak to friendly reporters that Bergdahl was a spy who infiltrated the Taliban.

chadlands on June 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Hillary to Bill:

“Are you seeing this? Are you? You’re such a dumbass. I told you, the minute that hooker of yours, Monica, hit the news to freaking INVADE some podunk country…But Noooooooooo! you said. Blowing up a milk factory in the middle of nowhere would do it. You just keep watching and learn how its done, you dick head. Have you heard anyone…anyone at all, say “the VA” or “Benghazi” or “IRS” in the last 48 hours? You’re an amateur.”

BobMbx on June 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM

“Oh my”, then spends the whole post playing down the issue. Might as well end every post with a Nelson Muntz “Ha ha!”

Dongemaharu on June 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

No DEMOCRAT will ever call for Obama’s impeachment, even if he committed mass murder on live tv…

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Indeed, he could rape a 9 year old little boy, carve his skull off and eat his brains live on TV, and the effect would be that the Mainstream Media would applaud his courage, while his standing in the Democrat party would soar above even John F Kennedy’s.

oscarwilde on June 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Do we have a name for this scandal yet?

If we had known there were going to be so many, we should have numbered them.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

The Young & The Treasonous.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Sticking with the soap opera theme:

Days of Our Lies.

(Works with any of them really.)

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 5:58 PM

If we had known there were going to be so many, we should have numbered them.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Yeah, remember the good old days when all you had to do was tack “gate” on the end of the scandal and wait for the resignations.

By my count, Obama has:

Sanctioned threatening whites at polling places.

Laundered money and supplied arms to Mexican drug cartels.

Illegally sanctioned amnesty for illegals, marriage for gays, and federal funding for abortion.

Targeted political enemies using the IRS and other agencies to do so.

Killed veterans.

And, now, freed terrorists for partisan political reasons

I’m sure I’m missing some but there are so many we will soon have to separate the scandals out between major and minor scandals in the way we differentiate out between major and minor prophets in the Bible.

And not a -gate in sight.

Happy Nomad on June 3, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Yeah, my original comment was tongue-in-cheek, but we can dream, right?

Corporal Tunnel on June 3, 2014 at 5:56 PM

What a dream that would be….

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:59 PM

oscarwilde on June 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Wow. That’s really over the top.

/Dude, I’m a Mom

Key West Reader on June 3, 2014 at 6:00 PM

I am extremely confused by all of this. I do not like the President, however despite my hate of him I have always found that he takes all his actions with great political calculation.

There’s no evidence whatsoever of that.

You’ve been given that impression by the media, but the reality is that he’s made more gigantic mistakes than any president in the modern era.

Just today they recognized the Palestinian unity government, which means Obama will break the law by funding it, since it’s illegal to give money to Hamas.

His presidency is an unbroken string of moronic decisions.

A Chair of Some Kind on June 3, 2014 at 6:01 PM

White House, Bloopers and Blunders

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Do we have a name for this scandal yet?

If we had known there were going to be so many, we should have numbered them.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

The Young & The Treasonous.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Sticking with the soap opera theme:

Days of Our Lies.

(Works with any of them really.)

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Wife Jacka$$ Swap

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Do we have a name for this scandal yet?
If we had known there were going to be so many, we should have numbered them.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM

The Young & The Treasonous.

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Sticking with the soap opera theme:

Days of Our Lies.

(Works with any of them really.)

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Wife Jacka$$ Swap

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Let’s Make a Deal.

kingsjester on June 3, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Within days of his disappearance, says Buetow, teams monitoring radio chatter and cell phone communications intercepted an alarming message: The American is in Yahya Khel (a village two miles away). He’s looking for someone who speaks English so he can talk to the Taliban.

That doesn’t prove he aided or joined the Taliban.

jim56 on June 3, 2014 at 6:04 PM

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