New Bergdahl counter-scandal: A Republican put soldiers in his unit in touch with the media, you know

posted at 1:21 pm on June 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

The reason you have allegedly smart liberals like Chris Hayes moronically implying that the U.S. should pay any price to bring a missing soldier home, even if he went missing deliberately, is because they can’t make the argument they really want to make. The argument for defending a deal this palpably terrible is, simply, that they’re stuck with it now thanks to O and can’t afford to let the White House bleed endlessly over it. There’s no reason on the merits why this should be a partisan issue: There’s credible evidence from the men who served with him that Bergdahl deserted and there’s documentary evidence that the Taliban Five are highly dangerous. You shouldn’t have to hand in your liberal card for thinking, “Yeah, that’s a dumb deal.” But with elections five months away and Obama already wounded by a scandal related to veterans, they can’t leave him exposed to more bipartisan criticism. The Bergdahl swap is being “politicized” — by the left, of necessity.

Which is why this lame “story” is suddenly a big deal on Twitter.

A former Bush Administration official hired, then resigned, as Mitt Romney’s foreign policy spokesman played a key role in publicizing critics of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the released prisoner of war…

Reached by phone, [Richard] Grenell’s partner at Capitol Media Partners, Brad Chase, confirmed that the firm had been helping the soldiers get their story out.

“Obviously Ric is a well known Republican and these guys found him on Twitter and reached out asking for help in getting their story out,” Chase said. “Ric obviously saw that this is something that needed to be told and came to me and others in our firm, and I and some of the others determined that this was a story that we wanted to work on.”

Chase said the New York Times’ referring to them as “Republican strategists” was “100% factually inaccurate” because he himself is not a Republican. But a producer for the Michael Berry show, a radio show that one of the soldiers spoke on told BuzzFeed that Grenell was the point of contact for the bookings.

The accusations against Bergdahl have been public for at least two years, thanks to Michael Hastings and Rolling Stone. Cody Full, one of the men from Bergdahl’s unit who suspects him of desertion, tweeted his suspicions for hours on Saturday night, two days before any media found him. No one seriously believes that the allegations against Bergdahl are being fed to his squad mates by the GOP; on the contrary, I can only imagine how insulted Full and his comrades would be to stand accused of making up lies about a POW to serve some political party’s agenda. But all of that is beside the point. The point of a piece like this, treating it as unusual that partisan operatives might liaise for people who share their criticism of the other side (remember when Anita Dunn’s firm began representing Sandra Fluke?), is to imply that there’s some sort of partisan dirty trick being played without ever clearly stating what that trick might be. The “argument,” such as it is, is that there are Republican fingerprints here and therefore you don’t have to pay close attention going forward to these years-old, wholly independent accusations against Bergdahl from fellow veterans. It’s another partisan food fight, “Berghazi,” as Ed Schultz sneeringly called it yesterday.

I eagerly await the interviews with Bergdahl’s supporters from his old unit, assuming the DNC can find any. Exit quotation from this miserable, frightened partisan hack, who now occupies a seat in the U.S. Senate:

Are the military’s many, many Bergdahl skeptics now “Obama haters” by definition?


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Really sad to watch Obama haters attack this kid who CHOSE to fight to protect the rest of us, just to score political points.

Sounds to me like he CHOSE to desert.

Meople on June 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

I mean, like, who couldn’t see this coming???

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM

I don’t understand. Obama is like the smartest guy in any room or something.

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Are the military’s many, many Bergdahl skeptics now “Obama haters” by definition?

What’s wrong with being “Obama haters” ?
Anyone who is a hard working , productive ,honest PATRIOTIC American should be proud to belong to the
“Obama haters” club.
Hating evil is a good thing .
Hating islamic evil is even better.

burrata on June 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

I’m starting to think Obama doesn’t survive the summer as President.

So far in June, we have :

-The EPA trying to cripple the power industry

-Illegal immigrant children streaming across the border, creating a humanitarian crisis.

-The VA scandal

-The release of five known terrorists

…and it’s only Tuesday.

MichaelGabriel on June 3, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I’m thinkin’ he’s thinkin’ the same thing…..and it’s either him or us.

He’s thinkin’ us….so he’s releasing the Kraken.

Buckle up, lock and load, this is going to be a bumpy ride and not a fun one.

WE may not survive summer.

hawkeye54 on June 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

I suspect that the Koch Brothers are behind all of this, right Harry?

/s

307wolverine on June 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/02/Tea-Party-Patriots-file-ethics-complaint-against-Harry-Reid

davidk on June 3, 2014 at 2:02 PM

I mean, like, who couldn’t see this coming???

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Evidently anybody in the bubble 0bama has pulled around himself.

It makes the lunch with Hilary very interesting.

cozmo on June 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM

I don’t understand. Obama is like the smartest guy in any room or something.

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Considering who he picks to fill his admin, he may very well be the smartest guy in the room. Scary thought.

hawkeye54 on June 3, 2014 at 2:04 PM

But more to the point, if you reverse the above, it’s 100%.

Which merely vindicates them.

tommyboy on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

I’d say a good many are.
But more to the point, if you reverse the above, it’s 100%.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

even if thats true you have to admit theres something fishy about swapping 5 terrorists fro a deserter who denounced his citizenship and possibly got many soldiers killed looking for him (if the many stories emmerging are true). maybe theres more to it than that..and i do think even if he was a deserter/defector we needed to get him back at least to face justice..but we need to here the explanation sooner rather than later. try having an open mind. i am.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 3, 2014 at 1:45 PM

I think there’s plenty more to it.
But yet the chorus on the right has grown from ‘deserter’ to ‘traitor’ to ‘terrorist sympathizer’ to ‘terrorist’ to ‘son of a terrorist sympathizer who looks like a terrorist’…all in about 48 hours. And the reason for that trajectory has nothing to fo with the real story here. The reason is ‘Obama!’. The reason a GOP Strategy firm is front and center here is ‘Obama!’.
This one is going to go the way of the Benghazi ‘hearings’.
Now we have to suffer through Cruz and Palin elbowing each other for podium time.
Sad and sadly predictable.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Allah –
A very weak dismissal of the relevance of this detail.
You think it’s ‘lame’ that this is being pointed out.
What it is…is revealing.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

When a Democrat-run PR firm helps a Democrat corporate whistleblower get in touch with the Dem-run media, is that “revealing”?

Who do you suppose found Sandra Fluke for Congressional Dems’ dog and pony show? If it was a Democrat, does that invalidate her testimony?

I remind you that SPC Cody Tull wrote his Twitter account of Bergdahl’s desertion just this past Saturday. Today is Tuesday. Are you suggesting he made it up, or that it was commissioned somehow by Republicans just hours after the news of the swap broke?

Missy on June 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM

I mean, like, who couldn’t see this coming???

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM

So, when do you think they will roll out the He’s the first black President story line?

DDay on June 3, 2014 at 2:07 PM

But yet the chorus on the right has grown from ‘deserter’ to ‘traitor’ to ‘terrorist sympathizer’ to ‘terrorist’ to ‘son of a terrorist sympathizer who looks like a terrorist’…all in about 48 hours.

Yes. Because that is how long it has taken soldiers who knew him and who were there when he deserted to get the truth out.

Social media, baby. It’s fast.

He’s a deserter and an enemy collaborator. Suck on it.

Missy on June 3, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Sad and sadly predictable.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

You certainly are.

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 2:07 PM

A major miscalculation by the Senator.

Those that have served, which includes many commenters here, understand what sacrifice means. The brotherhood that solidifies by protecting, and in turn being protected, by the warriors to your left and right goes far beyond any political inkling. We have heard from a few now that point to 6 or more deaths caused directly by the actions of this soldier. I don’t know of anyone that is or has been in the military that would be anything but outraged by this whole affair.
Victory laps in the rose garden or releasing very bad men that fellow warriors died to bring to justice are two things that are NOT going to sit well with any that I know.

JusDreamin on June 3, 2014 at 2:08 PM

I mean, like, who couldn’t see this coming???

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM

They believe everyone has the analytic ability of a LIV.

And narcissistic megalomaniacs surrounded by sycophants tend to be stunned when their spun lies are shredded.

INC on June 3, 2014 at 2:08 PM

im having a hard time getting worked up about this. if they had a story to tell that needed to be told not sure why it matters how they did it. im still waiting for a good explanation from the white house..hopefully there will be one. but its not looking to good.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Thank you for this honest comment.

Missy on June 3, 2014 at 2:10 PM

I don’t understand. Obama is like the smartest guy in any room or something.

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

And the crease in his pants…awesome!

Wethal on June 3, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Allah –
A very weak dismissal of the relevance of this detail.
You think it’s ‘lame’ that this is being pointed out.
What it is…is revealing.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

And the Plame case was different, how?

Buck Farky on June 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

I don’t think you’re following there.
By ‘skeptics’ neither Allah nor I meant the soldiers.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Why did the military require nondisclsure agreements from other soldiers close to him? According to them, it wasn’t SOP. BTW, do you think they should now be punished for speaking out despite signing them?

butch on June 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM

-Illegal immigrant children streaming across the border, creating a humanitarian crisis.

And the administration is going to congress today to try and get billions more of our dollars to deal with this “humanitarian crisis” that was created by Obama’s unilateral, and illegal, DREAM Act by executive order.

DHS has been paying huge amounts of our money to house, feed, and fly illegal alien kids and teens all over the U.S. in order to “reunite” them with their illegal alien relatives — the same people who called back to their home countries for the kids to come here when Obama signed the illegal DREAM EO.

Remember how Obama told the public that we had a moral imperative to give illegal alien kids (up to age 30) amnesty, because they’d grown up here and they were essentially Americans, and they had nowhere else to go?

What’s the justification for the tens of thousands of new illegal aliens kids now pouring over our border? They didn’t grow up here, and they’re sure as hell not American. But this administration is still spending billions of our tax dollars to bring — and keep — them here.

If Obama wants to stop the Obama-created “humanitarian crisis” of all these tens of thousands of illegal alien kids flooding across our border, then he should rescind his illegal DREAM EO, and announce that once the illegal alien kids already here are reunited with their illegal alien relatives, the entire family will be deported.

AZCoyote on June 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Obama rescues deserters, and lets his Ambassador fry

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM

I think there’s plenty more to it.
But yet the chorus on the right has grown from ‘deserter’ to ‘traitor’ to ‘terrorist sympathizer’ to ‘terrorist’ to ‘son of a terrorist sympathizer who looks like a terrorist’…all in about 48 hours. And the reason for that trajectory has nothing to fo with the real story here. The reason is ‘Obama!’. The reason a GOP Strategy firm is front and center here is ‘Obama!’.
This one is going to go the way of the Benghazi ‘hearings’.
Now we have to suffer through Cruz and Palin elbowing each other for podium time.
Sad and sadly predictable.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Of course it’s Obama. Obama traded a deserter if not enemy collaborator for 5 top Taliban commanders with intimate links to Al Qaeda. One is wanted for war crimes for slaughtering 1000s of Shiites.

You honestly don’t see a problem with this?

Chuck Schick on June 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Does any of that change the many claims that this guy was a deserter in your estimation?

anuts on June 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM

And narcissistic megalomaniacs surrounded by sycophants tend to be stunned when their spun lies are shredded.

INC on June 3, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Actually, being narcissistic megalomaniac ideologues surrounded by sycophants, they not only don’t care when their spun lies are shredded, they deny those were lies and that they were ever shredded.

They see themselves as only being accountable to themselves and their agenda…and when it comes to that, the ends justifies the means.

Athos on June 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Buckle up, lock and load, this is going to be a bumpy ride and not a fun one.

WE may not survive summer.

hawkeye54 on June 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

“Express elevator to hell, man! Goin’ down!!!” /Hudson (or was that Hicks?)

But yet the chorus on the right has grown from ‘deserter’ to ‘traitor’ to ‘terrorist sympathizer’ to ‘terrorist’ to ‘son of a terrorist sympathizer who looks like a terrorist’…all in about 48 hours.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Not really. There hasn’t been any “growth” at all. A vast number of the people expressing these things have believed them for a long time.

What’s sadly predictable is your leaping to the defense of the 0 administration. Even against the facts.

GWB on June 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Allah –
A very weak dismissal of the relevance of this detail.
You think it’s ‘lame’ that this is being pointed out.
What it is…is revealing.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

And the Plame case was different, how?

Buck Farky on June 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Maybe better and briefer for you to lay out your view of how it wasn’t?

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Now we have to suffer through Cruz and Palin elbowing each other for podium time.
Sad and sadly predictable.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Much rather have that then Hildebeast and Plugs Biden elbowing each other for podium time.

If this entire last 6 years happened under an (R)President, we would be witness to the biggest, most detailed anal exam of an administration in history. And would make what we’ve actually seen the last 6 years look like nothing.

You know it, I know it and everyone else knows it.

So just stop with the “revealing” BS.

Meople on June 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM

But yet the chorus on the right has grown from ‘deserter’ to ‘traitor’ to ‘terrorist sympathizer’ to ‘terrorist’ to ‘son of a terrorist sympathizer who looks like a terrorist’…all in about 48 hours.

Assuming the accuracy of the numerous reports that he walked away from his unit and was searching specifically for Taliban, what part of this chain of events is untrue?

And the reason for that trajectory has nothing to fo with the real story here.

Um… that trajectory IS the real story. That’s kind of the point. Just like the “trajectory” of federal involvement in the IRS debacle is because there was federal involvement in the debacle.

The reason a GOP Strategy firm is front and center here is ‘Obama!’.

I have never heard of any of these people before this accusation came out. I do not think you define “front and center” the way the rest of us do.

This one is going to go the way of the Benghazi ‘hearings’.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

If by that you mean no one will have the stones to do the right thing and seek justice be done, you’re probably right. But I find your nonchalance towards dead American soldiers in both instances to be… what was the word you used?… revealing.

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM

A very weak dismissal of the relevance of this detail.
You think it’s ‘lame’ that this is being pointed out.
What it is…is revealing.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Revealing that our so-called journalists have their head so far up Obama’s butt that they cannot be relied upon to break a story of our President illegally releasing five terrorist leaders for a deserter who sided with the terrorists.

What is revealing is that immoral liberals play games with lives and try to suppress truth when it’s inconvenient to their power grabbing ideals.

dominigan on June 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I don’t think you’re following there.
By ‘skeptics’ neither Allah nor I meant the soldiers.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Are the military’s many, many Bergdahl skeptics now “Obama haters” by definition?

Was AP speaking of members of a different military?

Your dishonest tripe has never looked more ridiculous. Do yourself a favor and go drown yourself.

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM

There seems to be little doubt in either camp that Bergdahl simply walked away from his unit.

Whether he did it to find the Taliban or to find Disneyland, where is the outrage over this? Do people not understand what that means?

He deserted his post, he left his platoon buddies sleeping and vulnerable. He was on guard, and it was his duty to protect them. It is one of the most basic tenants of being a soldier. Soldiers fight for each other, sacrifice their lives for each other, because they know their buddy has their back.

No wonder his former platoon members are angry.

I just can’t believe that there is not more widespread anger over this. Perhaps that will change as the facts are established.

Skiritae on June 3, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Dude, are you completely deluded?

blink on June 3, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Ooh! I know this one! Yes?

GWB on June 3, 2014 at 2:17 PM

I’m starting to think Obama doesn’t survive the summer as President.

MichaelGabriel on June 3, 2014 at 1:54 PM

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It’s not going to happen, no matter how much we wish for it. Look how out of touch Ø is about everything. He reviews documents prepared for him by using checkboxes; he gets to ignore the law and prattle on about it with full protection from the press; Mooch wants those lobsters to continue to roll on in (not to mention that expensive Wagyu beef).
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He could murder a Republican on the front lawn of the White House with video rolling and still be protected by the liberal biased media for it; neither his DOJ nor the DC Metropolitan Police nor the Capital Hill Police would move to have him be accountable for that action, presuming that Messiah had good reason to rid the nation of a selfish, greedy hater with political ties. More likely, Republicans would be investigated to see who made Teh Won commit such a desperate act. This is the police state in which we live now.

ExpressoBold on June 3, 2014 at 2:17 PM

davidk on June 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM

I saw that article as well. However, if you think for a single second that TOTUS, who stood at a podium and gave that rah-rah “our boy is coming home” speech with the parents at his side, only to then see the heroic individual punished…

Should happen if the facts warrant it…yes. Ever happen under this Administration even if the facts warrant it…never.

USNCVN on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

But yet the chorus on the right has grown from ‘deserter’ to ‘traitor’ to ‘terrorist sympathizer’ to ‘terrorist’ to ‘son of a terrorist sympathizer who looks like a terrorist’…all in about 48 hours. verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Just commenting on the unimpeachable evidence as it rolls in. Feel free to offer any evidence you believe refutes any of those characterizations.

tommyboy on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

yeah all the media people questioning this are obama haters, they hate him so much they support him.
and as always, shutup you big racist.

dmacleo on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Does any of that change the many claims that this guy was a deserter in your estimation?

anuts on June 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM

I think it’s credible that this guy did indeed leave his post.
There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Obama just read about this being a deserter today.

He’s mad as hell.

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

I’m starting to think Obama doesn’t survive the summer as President.

MichaelGabriel on June 3, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Yeah he does. Of course he does. These guys are just getting started.

vlad martel on June 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

shutup you big racist.

dmacleo on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Um…no.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Yeah and the King Putt regime went around with non disclosure agreements trying to cover up what they had done.

But they men in the deserter’s unit are speaking out anyway.

NOW THAT IS THE STORY.

dogsoldier on June 3, 2014 at 2:20 PM

He deserted his post, he left his platoon buddies sleeping and vulnerable. He was on guard, and it was his duty to protect them. It is one of the most basic tenants of being a soldier. Soldiers fight for each other, sacrifice their lives for each other, because they know their buddy has their back.

No wonder his former platoon members are angry.

I just can’t believe that there is not more widespread anger over this. Perhaps that will change as the facts are established.

Skiritae on June 3, 2014 at 2:16 PM

To be accurate, I don’t believe he was on guard duty when he left. I think he was supposed to be sleeping.

butch on June 3, 2014 at 2:20 PM

The reason is ‘Obama!’.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

And by the way, how strange that the person who pulled the trigger on this deal, putting five dangerous terrorists back in the wild, without his legally required notification of Congress, would find himself the subject of scrutiny. You sound just like the sycophants who work for him: wanting to give him all the credit in the world for making macho decisions that destroy terrorists and rescue Americans by the millions from the evil corporate charnel houses, and yet crucifying anyone who might want to hold him accountable for the negative impact of his policies.

“Praise Obama for rescuing the heroic Sgt. Gergdahl! But why y’all bringing Obama into this?”

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:21 PM

I just can’t believe that there is not more widespread anger over this. Perhaps that will change as the facts are established.
 
Skiritae on June 3, 2014 at 2:16 PM

 
Reporting on this will be very similar to the current VA reporting. Watch the news and listen for them to mention the bonuses or otherwise discuss why the VA wait lists were manipulated and our vets died.
 
They won’t. It was all just something magical beyond anyone’s control or understanding.
 
They’ll do the same thing with this story.

rogerb on June 3, 2014 at 2:21 PM

To be accurate, I don’t believe he was on guard duty when he left. I think he was supposed to be sleeping.

butch on June 3, 2014 at 2:20 PM

That isn’t relevant. He still deserted his post, which was that base.

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 2:21 PM

He could murder a Republican on the front lawn of the White House with video rolling and still be protected by the liberal biased media for it.

ExpressoBold on June 3, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Well, it’s not like he killed a human, amirite?

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:22 PM

To all Obama haters: “Welcome to the party pal”

warmairfan on June 3, 2014 at 2:22 PM

There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

You haven’t kept up with current events. New evidence shows he renounced his citizenship and planned to join the terrorists.

Soon it will come out that he actively helped them.

And this will not wash the mushrooming VA scandal off the front page either.

dogsoldier on June 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

POLITICAL WITCH HUNT ELEVENTY!

ezspirit on June 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

I think it’s credible that this guy did indeed leave his post.
There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Should such a man should be traded for 5 top level Taliban commanders?

Chuck Schick on June 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

At the rate news is breaking, DaVerb is going to have to back to defending Bradley, er, sorry, I meant CHELSEA Manning.

At least, Manning only renounced his gender, not his citizenship.

You guys sur ’nuff know how to pick ‘em!

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Ironic, coming from a group who’s standard is “Fake, but Accurate”.

a5minmajor on June 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Ha! Parsing your way through that very carefully. Bless your heart.

butch on June 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

GOOD – THE REAL STORY OF THIS DESERTER / TRAITOR / ISLAMIST EXTREMIST CONVERT NEEDS TO BE TOLD!

easyt65 on June 3, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Maybe better and briefer for you to lay out your view of how it wasn’t?

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM

When put out by democrats, it’s relevant and important. republicans? It’s “revealing”.

This is relevant and important, yet you want to dismiss. Do you really think a Democrat would have put this information out?

You seem to think it better that people remain ignorant to better serve your position.

Buck Farky on June 3, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Carney knew this was coming, and true to form as a liberal lickspittle, jumped ship.

BobMbx on June 3, 2014 at 2:24 PM

blink on June 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

As I said before, I would expect that a good many are.
Not all.
I would also expect that those who are pre-disposed to be anti-Obama are certainly skeptics, at best.
Like you.

But for sure, the pros can see past the politcs:
Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said that there was a larger matter at play: The American military does not leave soldiers behind. “When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

So now you can reach back into the past and do a remote psychological evaluation and declare him a Section 8 even though no one in his platoon expressed any concerns about his mental capacity?

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Dude, where were you when Timothy McVeigh was on trial?

He suffered from PTSD and was very sympathetic to the Iraqis.

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Watching verbaldouches metamorphosing dishonesty is a little humorous. From yesterday:

Ed -
I can’t see that you or I are in any position to make a judgement here. As for whatever went down with Bergdahl is the days and moments leading to his capture, we just don’t know the story there at all. And it should be so hard for people to be more compassionate about the psychic wounds that may have been present for him. If he’d frozen from fear in a foxhole, would be dignified for folks to mock him for that?
Would a guy who was rationally planning to desert make his move in that place and that hostile climate and environment?
Everyone should try and not to go off the rails here.
Maybe a good time to try and let patriotism trump judgment.

verbaluce on June 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM

But for sure, the pros can see past the politcs:
Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said that there was a larger matter at play: The American military does not leave soldiers behind. “When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

But do they trade them for 5 top Taliban with direct links to Al Qaeda who are wanted for war crimes for slaughtering 1000s of civilians?

This is where your credibility evaporates.

Chuck Schick on June 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM

There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.
 
verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

 
+1, just like Nadal Hassan.
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/23/guilty-on-all-counts-nidal-hasan-faces-death-for-fort-hood-shootings/comment-page-2/#comment-7271609

rogerb on June 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said that there was a larger matter at play: The American military does not leave soldiers behind. “When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

And, THAT is BS, too. How many POW/MIAs do we still have from Vietnam?

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Speaking of, would someone mind updating the list of soldier’s actions we’re allowed to disapprove of after those actions are exposed by other soldiers, please?

rogerb on June 3, 2014 at 2:27 PM

And by the way, how strange that the person who pulled the trigger on this deal, putting five dangerous terrorists back in the wild…

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Do you think there was some trade made on a battlefield?

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Thread winner.

USNCVN on June 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM

But for sure, the pros can see past the politcs:

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Oh, for sure:

Special forces found Bergdahl and captors but wouldn’t risk rescue for ‘deserter’

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

I thought the US doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.

sentinelrules on June 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM

There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

I can think of 6 families that would beg to differ. It’s very cut and dried to them, a loved one died looking for a deserter. I don’t think they would use the P.C. word “instability” though

JusDreamin on June 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said that there was a larger matter at play: The American military does not leave soldiers behind. “When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

They did go to look for Bergdahl. Six soldiers died doing it.

That does not explain or justify negotiating with terrorists for five high-ranking Taliban.

Missy on June 3, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Do you think there was some trade made on a battlefield?

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Just write “I am going to defend Barack Obama no matter what he does”.

No shame in it.

Chuck Schick on June 3, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Bergdahl is getting a sex change operation. He deserted because of Tea party racism and transgenderism.
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faraway on June 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Well, it’s not like he killed a human, amirite?

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:22 PM

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It couldn’t be characterized that way because PETA would then be encouraged to get involved, even though PETA destroys more animals than they ever save. Anyway, if your point is that liberals like to treat Republicans as if they were troglodyte, AGW denying, atavistic lower species then yeah, I get your point.

ExpressoBold on June 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

I would also expect that those who are pre-disposed to be anti-Obama are certainly skeptics, at best.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Another interesting psychological evaluation by you. “Predisposition”. Like someone with a genetic disorder, or an abusive childhood, or an alcoholic father. These people were magically programmed in advance to behave this way, even though most had never heard of him before some six or seven years ago.

But for sure, the pros can see past the politcs:

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Hey, genius, nobody who leaves willingly was “left behind”. Bergdahl did not fall off a boat; he LEFT. Of his OWN ACCORD. And we still burnt months and years and lives looking for him. So stop acting like this just happened last week and the five high-value terrorists were the only solution for retrieving him.

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

dogsoldier on June 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305184/Bowe-Bergdahl-Taliban-claim-captured-U-S-solider-teaching-fighters-bomb-making-skills.html

But, according to Verb, those were evil republican Taliban, trying to tarnish our hero’s story.

USNCVN on June 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

So now you can reach back into the past and do a remote psychological evaluation and declare him a Section 8 even though no one in his platoon expressed any concerns about his mental capacity?

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM

And conveniently ignore the fact that the deserter planned his departure carefully, left a note and sent his belongings home. This was not a spontaneous event. the military has known all of this for some time.

dogsoldier on June 3, 2014 at 2:33 PM

I thought the US doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.

sentinelrules on June 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM

The US doesn’t. Talibama does, at least when said negotiations involve the release of his comrades from Gitmo, and an America hating deserter.

Meople on June 3, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Do you think there was some trade made on a battlefield?

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Okay, you win. No one was released from Gitmo.

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:34 PM

IIRC, Bradley, er, Chelsea Manning tried some ‘instability’ defence, too.

How’d that work out for him, er, her?

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Are the military’s many, many Bergdahl skeptics now “Obama haters” by definition?

Well John FU Kerry managed to malign the good men who were part of the Swift Boaters so I put nothing past the left on this.

The Swift Boaters were absolutely right about Kerry and Bergdahl’s unit mates are absolutely right about Bergdahl.

Wouldn’t it be great if the Republicans would actually fight against the left’s propaganda for a change?

Since Boehner has said nada about this defector I’m not holding my breath.

neyney on June 3, 2014 at 2:35 PM

I think it’s credible that this guy did indeed leave his post.
There’s an instability present for anyone walk off into those surroundings. So it’s not as cut and dry for me as it might be for some.

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM

How does “instability” account for the fact that he mailed all his stuff home before deserting? Computer, clothes, everything. Excepting journal, camera, compass, weapons.

Read SPC Full’s account.

Missy on June 3, 2014 at 2:36 PM

You honestly don’t see a problem with this?

Chuck Schick on June 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM

0 could promote this guy to five-star general, then run a bunch of Nigerian school girls through a wood chipper and verby wouldn’t have a problem with it, such is his devotion to his boy king.

CurtZHP on June 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM

USNCVN on June 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Yeah, some hero. I have heard reports he helped plan attacks, which if true, verby will have to claim he was brainwashed, except that whole business where he carefully planned his desertion.

King Putt wanted the VA off the front page very badly. Was this his way of trying to build some cred with soldiers and veterans? Using the “we don’t leave anyone behind” idea. Wow, he and his people just don’t get it.

I know four guys that could explain it for them.

dogsoldier on June 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM

My reply to Chris Murphy:

So what.. Don’t military members who risked life and limb deserve a voice?

melle1228 on June 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Would a guy who was rationally planning to desert make his move in that place and that hostile climate and environment?

verbaluce on June 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM

NotCoach on June 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM

While we’re on this subject, yes. He would make his move in that place. Because if you walk off Fort Benning the police will pick you up in a matter of days. In the Afghan wastelands you can disappear off the face of the earth.

WHICH IS WHY TERRORISTS LIKE TO HIDE THERE.

Seriously, did he really think this question through before asking?

The Schaef on June 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM

rogerb on June 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM

What?
I can only imagine how much time you’ve spent digging.
But yes, I didn’t want to hear Hassan spout some screed or manifesto.
Did you?
And….what?

verbaluce on June 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM

try having an open mind. i am.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 3, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Let us know when you start to have an open mind re. the Koch Brothers and maybe we’ll stop laughing at you.

Deal?

Del Dolemonte on June 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM

@ verbaluce: It must really suck to have to come out here and carry Talibama’s water everyday.

Seriously, what’s it like to try to defend a Regime that’s completely bereft of honesty and decency while so full of America hating enemy sympathizers?

I really don’t know how you do it because I sure couldn’t.

Meople on June 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM

I have come to the rapid conclusion that the WH staged the blowup

IMHO the WH was not shocked to learn the soldier might be a traitor. That was in his files a long time. They played him like they played the Muhammed video

The Muhammed video was obviously not the cause of Benghazi, since it had almost no hits on the internet. You think the WH handlers did not know that? By insisting it was the cause, in face of obvious contrary evidence, aided by a willing press , the obfuscation bomb exploded.

When Rice declared on a stack of Korans the known deserter was a hero, that was part of the staging

Choosing to release the worst of the terrorists, that too was not by accident. Obama has to behave irrationally, to break down the nation. Otherwise you could defeat him by the facts alone

This is Obama M.O.

Obama’s birth certificate was gamed in the same fashion. He toyed with public demands for years, and then fed the public an obviously edited digital image.

When deserter-pappy spouted the jihadist creed at the WH, on camera, with Obama at his side, you could see the community dis organizer smile broadly.

No, the little rat deserter was kept on ice until needed

It blew up the VA investigation, but better, it broke the electoral momentum. That was the purpose.

Obama will play stupid and game this to the end of his term

This is not Alinsky, this is Soros. Keep the geese running in circles, they will not see the fox

Who is the bad guy in the Ukraine, again?

entagor on June 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM

try having an open mind. i am.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 3, 2014 at 1:45 PM

New Koch

faraway on June 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Would a guy who was rationally planning to desert make his move in that place and that hostile climate and environment?
Everyone should try and not to go off the rails here.
Maybe a good time to try and let patriotism trump judgment.

verbaluce on June 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM

If he found common cause with the other side, he would, not like it hasn’t happened uncountable times through history; an entire Soviet division went over to the Wehrmacht during WWII.

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 2:42 PM

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