Chuck Todd: The White House expected “euphoria” over Bergdahl’s release; Update: WH overrode review process to free Taliban

posted at 4:41 pm on June 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via the Free Beacon. The White House’s theory, per Todd, is that “they thought that the military would rally around them” for bringing home the lone POW still held in Afghanistan. The brutal reality:

Hagel was met with silence when he told troops in a Bagram hangar: “This is a happy day. We got one of our own back.” It was unclear whether the absence of cheers and applause came from a reluctance to display emotion in front of the Pentagon chief or from any doubts among the troops about Bergdahl.

Poll the troops who were there. I’ll bet they don’t think it was so “unclear.” As for Todd’s point about the White House expecting “euphoria,” there are only two possibilities. One: Despite a Pentagon investigation in 2010 into Bergdahl’s disappearance, despite Michael Hastings’s article two years ago in Rolling Stone, despite the fact that Bergdahl apparently left a note confirming his desertion, somehow everyone in the administration who had input into this prisoner swap missed the longstanding accusations against him. They thought they were bringing home a guy who was captured heroically in combat and have now been caught completely by surprise. I don’t buy that, although I’ve had a few dozen conservative pals warn me on Twitter over the past 24 hours to never underestimate Hopenchange’s ignorance and incompetence. Point taken, and if this were purely a policy matter, I might go along. It isn’t. It’s a political landmine too and O’s usually careful to protect his own political capital. Someone surely looked into Bergdahl’s disappearance and signed off on this knowing the allegations against him.

Which brings us to the other possibility. Namely, Obama expected “euphoria” over Bergdahl’s release not because he didn’t know about the desertion claims but because he assumed that most of the public would never find out. I think he expected the media to go face-first into the tank in ignoring the desertion angle in the interest of (a) protecting the White House and (b) playing up the gauzy “POW reunited with parents” human-interest stuff. And you know what? That was a reasonable expectation. They probably thought that any desertion claims against Bergdahl would be confined to Fox and a few problematic segments on Jake Tapper’s show, all of which could be ignored and ghettoized as some new right-wing bugaboo (sorry, Jake) that no one else need take seriously. Michael Tomasky was way out in front of that yesterday morning. But then all sorts of big-media outlets dug in — the Times, WaPo, NBC, ABC, and on and on — and that made the “politicization” defense too difficult (although the left, God love ‘em, is still trying). I’m shocked by how eagerly the media went after it, frankly, although not as shocked as the White House. The X factor they didn’t anticipate, I’ll bet, is that soldiers like Cody Full would come forward and risk retaliation for putting his name to the “deserter” theory. It’s one thing to call a Republican a hack, it’s another to call a veteran who was there and who lost friends in the hunt for Bergdahl one. They’ve been left with no counter.

All of which is to say, this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture. If soldiers had reacted the way O expected, celebrating the release of a POW, it really would have tamped down the criticism of Bergdahl. For obvious reasons: If the men who risk their lives defending America are willing to forgive him and welcome his return, who are the rest of us to question him? But that’s not how the men who served with him reacted; in fact, unless I missed it, not a single member of Bergdahl’s unit has spoken up in his defense. Obama gambled heavily that both veterans and the media would keep quiet. He lost.

Update: You feeling euphoric yet?

But officials in the Pentagon and intelligence communities had successfully fought off release of the five men in the past, officials tell Time. “This was out of the norm,” says one official familiar with the debate over the dangers of releasing the five Taliban officials. “There was never the conversation.” Obama’s move was an ultimate victory for those at the White House and the State Department who had previously argued the military should “suck it up and salute,” says the official familiar with the debate…

Those opposing release had the benefit of secret and top secret intelligence showing that the five men were a continuing threat, officials familiar with the debate tell TIME. But in the push from the White House and the State Department to clear the men, opponents to release found themselves under constant pressure to prove that the five were dangerous. “It was a heavy burden to show they were bad,” says the second source familiar with the debate.

Opponents of release say absent a peace deal with the Taliban, the release makes no sense. “When our military is engaged in combat operations you’re always going to err on the side of caution,” says the first official familiar with the debate. “Just conceptually, how much sense does it make to release your enemy when you’re still at war with him?”

Obama’s national security team wanted the transfer to happen so it happened, despite the concerns of the Pentagon and the IC. Closing Gitmo means everything, even if the price is sending these lunatics back into battle.

Which makes me wonder: The media’s assuming that the White House wanted an American POW back so badly that they’d reluctantly agree to release five very dangerous Taliban to make it happen. In reality, maybe the reasoning went the other way. Maybe, in the name of finally closing Gitmo, they were eager to get rid of the five Taliban but realized that they couldn’t free them without paying a heavy political price. If, however, they could get the last American prisoner in Afghanistan back as part of a trade, that might give them enough cover to make it happen. It wasn’t Bergdahl who drove the deal, in other words, it was springing these guys from Gitmo. Bergdahl was just a bit of political sugar for the White House that’s now suddenly turned sour on them.


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The D-latrinerats are awful quiet on taking credit for the Bergdahl deal. Don’t you wonder why?

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Is Obama chooming again?

Ward Cleaver on June 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Those jug ears are made of tin.

A Chair of Some Kind on June 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Stay Frosty, folks.

Lourdes on June 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

More than eggs on the D-scumhags/D-scumbags’ faces.

Note the absence of HA trolls today. I guess they looked into the evidence and found it embarrassing, in the least.

You’re all traitors and should suffer the consequences.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Andrea Mitchell? Gak.

Ward Cleaver on June 3, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Yeah, choke in your euphoria, dimtards!

jimver on June 3, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Those jug ears are made of tin.

A Chair of Some Kind on June 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Volkswagen Beetle, with open doors.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Haven’t heard from Boehner and Hillary.

obama invited the scumhag to lunch last week, to tell her about the Bergdahl and terrorists’ release. It’ll be fun to see what Greta/Baier do with this, or if the scumhag even shows up now.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Watch Brad Thor on the Kelley Files tonight.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM

It was unclear whether the absence of cheers and applause came from a reluctance to display emotion in front of the Pentagon chief

RRROOOOOOOOFFFFFFLLLLLL

Right, because soldiers are cyborgs incapable of emotion.

Charlie H. Crist on a cross, how long will the media whores defend these administration losers?

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Progressives don’t see desertion as that big a deal. A “misguided kid”, you know, that kind of BS.

They fail to realize that it’s a BFD to normal people and a much bigger BFD to servicemen.

Obama’s juicebox inner circle just doesn’t understand these grown up things.

forest on June 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Old White House CW:
“I killed Bin Laden.”

New White House CW:
“I rescued Bergdahl.”

itsnotaboutme on June 3, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Any of you feeling Euphoric? Nope, me neither..

originalpechanga on June 3, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM

You saw verby on the other threads, contorting herself into strange shapes to defend the Boy Wonder and his team of Super Heroes.

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM

This administration has to be the stupidest group of people on earth.

Chuck Schick on June 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Harry Reid knew; the rest of the senate didn’t.

There will be closed door hearings in the Senate, but open door in the House.

The Ds in the house/senate are hopping mad for not having been told.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Chuck Todd: The White House expected “euphoria” over Bergdahl’s release everything they do

NoFanofLibs on June 3, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Allahpundit,

What are you talking about? President Obama just found out about it when he read it in the newspaper. He is mad as hell and he is investigating into it, so he can’t answer any questions right now during an ongoing investigation. For any other inquiries, he would like to refer you to the DOD or the SOS. Then, in a few months, dude, what difference does it make at this point why he was captured? That was like three months ago dude.

Conservative in NOVA on June 3, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Most brilliant administration evah.

talkingpoints on June 3, 2014 at 4:48 PM

The one time the lapdogs actually did their jobs…..poor Mr thin skin….we’re all racists now huh tingles?

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 4:48 PM

So, after once again failing to show even a modicum of competence in checking into exactly WHAT he was doing, and WHO he was negotiating to get released, Preezy Dronekiller expected us to be lauding him as he spiked the football all week over PERSONALLY releasing the “hero”?

Yeah, that’s about as deep as this shallow bunch thinks.

Can we now admit that President Obama just isn’t very smart?

ConstantineXI on June 3, 2014 at 4:48 PM

this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture.

Why would the Whitehouse have any understanding of the military? They hate the military and have no interest whatsoever in concepts such as honor and duty.

BacaDog on June 3, 2014 at 4:49 PM

This administration has to be the stupidest group of people on earth.

Chuck Schick on June 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM

You be wrong. They are the most successful in destroying you and the land.

You saw verby on the other threads, contorting herself into strange shapes to defend the Boy Wonder and his team of Super Heroes.

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM

If it was today, I missed it. Must find and ‘taser’.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:49 PM

I really think he gets off on seeing what he can get away with. Like a punk teenager.

Flange on June 3, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Which brings us to the other possibility. Namely, Obama expected “euphoria” over Bergdahl’s release not because he didn’t know about the desertion claims but because he assumed that most of the public would never find out. I think he expected the media to go face-first into the tank in ignoring the desertion angle in the interest of (a) protecting the White House and (b) playing up the gauzy “POW reunited with parents” human-interest stuff. And you know what? That was a reasonable expectation.

Yeah, that makes sense. When you consider that they’ve successfully(for the most part) deflected these scandals with the same gameplan every time out and the media has always covered for Obama, you can’t exactly blame him for thinking he’d get away with it yet again. I think he was crazy to expect “euphoria” if he knew about the allegations against Bergdahl, but it’s not unreasonable to think the political fallout will be minimal(and sadly still could be in the end).

What Obama needs to do though is stop thinking that he can treat veterans and soldiers like dirt and not expect any pushback. These people are putting their lives on the line(and in some cases dying). They and their families will not just sit back and remain silent out of fear or to protect Obama’s poll numbers.

Doughboy on June 3, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Never bought the evil genius stuff Beck was flogging for years.

Obama, Val Jarrett et al are simply the most incompetent people to every inhabit the Presidency.

Replete with sending Susan Freaking Rice back on Sunday shows to LIE!

Wow!! Yeah he’s a progressive and yeah progressivism our #1 foe but let’s be honest people….he’s just not that smart.

AYNBLAND on June 3, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Most of the msdnc talking heads still have his back….

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Most brilliant administration evah.

talkingpoints on June 3, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Excellent. Ad Del would say A+

They are brilliant in destroying all which is good, all on purpose.

The entire world laughs at the USA, the Taliban louder than anyone.

LilliPutin has the moral authority now, because he can. obama, the lilliputian Napoleon of the USA made it so.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM

The more i hear/read about this Bergdahl character and his family, the more I am willing to bet they pull a Snowden and disappear only to reappear in Russia or some other America hating country. Considering the beard of the father, Im betting there will be a well celebrated get together in Qatar.

MikeInBA on June 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Poor O… still trying to recapture even a glimpse of the euphoria that surrounded and innundated him back in 2008.

…this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture.

Gee, now THERE’S a SHOCKER.

Marcola on June 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Have you noted when he’s speaking:

When he thinks it’s a boon for him it’s “I. I. I.” If it blows up in his face, he’ll change to “the United States…” and “we..”.

Marcus on June 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Well while the VA is still on going he causes this mess and expected people would be happy? What logic is this? It’s absurd…

sorrowen on June 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

The Saturday Rose Garden “Parent Trap” was or was not expected by Obama ?

I mean, how many American Dads would speak in the language of the Enemy about his son and say what he said AGAINST the military ?

Did Obama know what the man was going to say ?

Incompetence on parade is the only explanation, and its bigger than we ever thought was possible. Did Joe Biden write the script for this display of incompetnece ? That I could understand.

JayTee on June 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Maybe the media sycophants have finally lost the lovin’ feeling. Barry should have never locked them in that hotel room.

pain train on June 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Top thread on the left side, verbs changed the subject so often she forgot whatever point she had originally intended to make.

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Obama, Val Jarrett et al are simply the most incompetent people to every inhabit the Presidency.

Replete with sending Susan Freaking Rice back on Sunday shows to LIE!

Wow!! Yeah he’s a progressive and yeah progressivism our #1 foe but let’s be honest people….he’s just not that smart.

AYNBLAND on June 3, 2014 at 4:50 PM

He’s extremely successful at accomplishing his thuggish fascist marxist dreams. Wake up already.

He’s also treasonous but he knows that the wimps will leave him alone. Blitzer thinks hes GWB now, “chimpey”, recall.

“You’re doing a fine job, Brownie” — GWB

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Bergdahl’s Team Leader: ‘He Is A Deserter. He Is Not A Hero. He Was Looking For The Taliban.’

Don’t ever call Bowe Robert Bergdahl. Meet a real hero: Army MSG Mark Allen.

He was one was of the many soldiers that searched for Bowe Robert Bergdahl. What did he get for his efforts? A bullet to the brain.

MSG Allen’s wife would like people to meet her husband:

“Meet my husband, injuries directly brought to you by the actions of this traitor. He can’t give an account of what went down, because he can no longer speak. Now, which guy is a ‘hero’ again?!? Sick.”

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM

this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture. If soldiers had reacted the way O expected, celebrating the release of a POW, it really would have tamped down the criticism of Bergdahl.

Having the families of the dead soldiers and others sign NDA’s should have been a giant clue that there would be blowback if this guy was ever returned.

I think this “prisoner” swap and it’s timing has more to do with what Obama is expecting from the Taliban from the next couple of years.

He said it to Putin, but it can aptly fit into this scenario. After the election…I’ll have more flexibility.

can_con on June 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Imagine how hard they’re trying to get their media enablers back in line behind the scenes. The pressure must be intense. I’ll bet they’re threatening those reporters’ spouses, children, parents, siblings — everyone’s getting a rectal exam by the IRS if they don’t get moving on the spin zero was expecting.

Rational Thought on June 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Thanks Bishop. I’ll go look. You know how I ‘love’ verbie and that chickenbrain. I have guilt pangs for fighting it with such ease.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Obama seems incapable of understanding the concepts of loyalty, patriotism and camraderie, so he cannot fathom the hostile reaction of the military to the trade for the release of a deserter who hated America and cost 14 servicemen their lives. I don’t think he ever will. It’s a little surprising that no one in the administration had a clue that this would blow up so badly.

talkingpoints on June 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM

The White House’s theory, per Todd, is that “they thought that the military would rally around them” for bringing home the lone POW still held in Afghanistan

All of which is to say, this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture

Yep. I’m not sure “fundamental misunderstanding” is the right description though. I believe they are fundamentally unable to comprehend the military. It’s not a subtle difference.

JusDreamin on June 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM

this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture.

Why would the Whitehouse have any understanding of the military? They hate the military and have no interest whatsoever in concepts such as honor and duty.

BacaDog on June 3, 2014 at 4:49 PM

The WH thinks Chuck Hagel is representative of the military.

Wethal on June 3, 2014 at 4:55 PM

The White House expected “euphoria” over Bergdahl’s release

…what Drug where they taking?

KOOLAID2 on June 3, 2014 at 4:55 PM

This administration has to be the stupidest group of people on earth.

Chuck Schick on June 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM

.The group that let’s it happen without consequences is a close second, or maybe even first in that category.

News2Use on June 3, 2014 at 4:55 PM

After the strong negative reaction from members of the military to trading terrorists for a deserter 14 people have died trying to find I bet you Obama won’t let an armed soldier within a mile of him…

ConstantineXI on June 3, 2014 at 4:55 PM

All of which is to say, this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture.

Bergdahl is not only a deserter, it’s clear that he was a collaborator. He reconnoitered the forward operating base and quizzed everyone on every possible response to attacks.

Here’s what serving members of the armed forces know: There’s no such thing as “disillusionment” these days. There’s far too much information available about why the armed forces are overseas and what they’re doing there.

Before you enlisted, wouldn’t you do some research? Of course you would. Everybody would. Especially in time of war.

Every single “disillusioned” soldier is lying. Snowden lied about being “disillusioned” during his Special Forces training. He was ineligible for the Special Forces because he has a GED, not a diploma.

Ehren Watada joined up, trained, and then when he was about to go to Iraq, he refused because he suddenly realized–in 2006–that the war was “illegal.” Both his parents are virulently anti-military, so it’s clear that he was a mole who thought himself FAR more consequential that he was.

Watada thought that by refusing, he would become a national hero, and the military-industrial complex and American murder machine would come crashing down.

Bergdahl is cut from the same cloth. He wasn’t disillusioned. He planned all along to join the Taliban.

For some people, Wahabbist terrorists are the ultimate badasses. They’re nihilists, the perfect role models for permanent teenagers who hate mean America for telling them what to do.

A Chair of Some Kind on June 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM

SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA!!!!!

(Hat tip to her thighness)

50sGuy on June 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Military who objected to the Bergdahl release told by White House to “suck it up and salute.”

Rational Thought on June 3, 2014 at 4:57 PM

A Matter of Honor: Why So Many Soldiers Are Angry at the Bergdahl Deal

By David French

I’ve spent the last two weeks on vacation — the first real family vacation since shortly after I returned home from Iraq in 2008 — and I tried as much as I could to truly “unplug.” When the Bergdahl deal was announced, however, I failed utterly. The story infuriated me. Other writers at NRO have articulated the various flaws in the deal, including that the manner of the prisoner exchange broke the law and that providing such a steep ransom (high-level Taliban commanders) even further incentivizes American hostage-taking. But I want to focus on something else: a matter of honor.

Let’s begin with the New York Times’ account of his disappearance:

Sometime after midnight on June 30, 2009, Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl left behind a note in his tent saying he had become disillusioned with the Army, did not support the American mission in Afghanistan and was leaving to start a new life. He slipped off the remote military outpost in Paktika Province on the border with Pakistan and took with him a soft backpack, water, knives, a notebook and writing materials, but left behind his body armor and weapons — startling, given the hostile environment around his outpost.

No, not just startling. Criminal. Desertion is a crime. Even worse it’s a crime that — in the context of a modern deployment — requires rather considerable malice aforethought.

Many civilians don’t realize this, but every sentient deployed soldier — especially those deployed with combat units — knew that the disappearance of an American soldier was a matter of the highest priority. Specific code words would rocket up the chain of command the instant a soldier was unaccounted for, and all available units would immediately initiate a search — a search that the missing soldier would know would be extremely dangerous and would by necessity require a massive American presence on roads and in communities that were “uncleared” or known to be littered with IEDs and full of insurgents.

In other words, Bergdahl knew that men would risk life and limb to find him and knew that men would likely die.

Yet the available evidence indicates he walked off anyway.

And of course, the predictable happened. The military initiated a massive search, and men died. American heroes died. Have their parents had a presidential photo-op like Sergeant Bergdahl’s parents enjoyed? In the moral calculus have we even considered or mentioned the Americans who may have died in the combat operations that led to the capture of the Taliban leadership?

To defend this dishonor, the White House’s quick-reaction blogging allies are demonstrating their ignorance. Here’s Salon:

Less understood is that when a member of the military fails to adhere to the far-right’s rigid formula of what a soldier should be (nationalistic, religious, obedient; conservative) right-wingers like Palin come down on them like a ton of bricks.

This is utter nonsense. The question isn’t whether Bergdahl adhered to a “formula” but instead whether he committed a crime under the Uniform Code of Military justice, a crime so severe that it was punished by death as recently as 1945.

ThinkProgress flails perhaps even worse, demonstrating willful ignorance of the law of armed conflict by claiming that the Taliban prisoners will have to be released soon anyway:

When wars end, prisoners taken custody must be released. These five Guantanamo detainees were almost all members of the Taliban, according to the biographies of the five detainees that the Afghan Analysts Network compiled in 2012. None were facing charges in either military or civilian courts for their actions. It remains an open question whether the end of U.S. involvement in the armed conflict in Afghanistan requires that all Guantanamo detainees must be released. But there is no doubt that Taliban detainees captured in Afghanistan must be released because the armed conflict against the Taliban will be over.

Let’s state this as plainly as possible: While we may attempt to end our combat operations against the Taliban, the Taliban have made no claim of ending their hostilities against us. We will be under zero obligation to hand over soldiers to an entity in an ongoing belligerent status against the United States.

Finally, a writer who should know better, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Bateman, actually tries to claim that in his prisoner exchange, President Obama stands in the shoes of Presidents Washington, Madison, and Lincoln (and that Washington, Madison, and Lincoln would endorse President Obama’s actions). After all, he notes, Washington and Madison swapped prisoners with the British and Lincoln did with the Confederacy (prisoner exchanges were not unusual in 18th and 19th century warfare). Prisoner exchanges amongst armed forces conducting warfare under the accepted legal rules in force more than 150 years ago are meager precedent for providing ransom to a terrorist entity that has never complied with the laws of war.

But if Lieutenant Colonel Bateman wants to follow Washington and Lincoln’s precedents, is he willing to go all the way? After all Washington sometimes hanged deserters, and dozens of Union soldiers were executed for the same crime during the Civil War.

To be clear, by discussing the possibility of deserting, I am not claiming that Sergeant Bergdahl is a traitor. I have not seen evidence that he is. After all, Union soldiers who deserted didn’t join the Confederate Army any more than American soldiers who deserted in World War II joined the Wermacht. They are separate offenses.

But merely reciting the mantra that we leave no man behind does not justify this deal. There is a difference between a desertion and “Blackhawk Down.” There’s a difference between desertion and a soldier’s confusion and mistake. The military has a long and proud history of enduring great sacrifices to retrieve pilots behind enemy lines and wounded and even dead comrades in the midst of the most intense firefights. In the conduct of those rescue missions, we are doing our best to defeat the enemies who’ve captured, wounded, or killed our comrades. But we — rightly — do not have a tradition of breaking our own laws and empowering the enemy to bring deserters home and then celebrating their return at the White House.

I hope and pray those are not the facts. I hope and pray that we did not choose to strengthen the Taliban so that our president could try to clumsily end a war on his political timetable. But I fear that’s exactly what happened.

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

The White House expected “euphoria” over Bergdahl’s release

“I saw that going differently in my mind.”
/Obama

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Bergdahl’s Team Leader: ‘He Is A Deserter. He Is Not A Hero. He Was Looking For The Taliban.’

Don’t ever call Bowe Robert Bergdahl. Meet a real hero: Army MSG Mark Allen.

He was one was of the many soldiers that searched for Bowe Robert Bergdahl. What did he get for his efforts? A bullet to the brain.

MSG Allen’s wife would like people to meet her husband:

“Meet my husband, injuries directly brought to you by the actions of this traitor. He can’t give an account of what went down, because he can no longer speak. Now, which guy is a ‘hero’ again?!? Sick.”

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM

This is getting uglier by the hour. It sounds like we’re no longer dealing with a deserter here, but a full-blown traitor.

Doughboy on June 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

But that’s not how the men who served with him reacted; in fact, unless I missed it, not a single member of Bergdahl’s unit has spoken up in his defense.

AllahP, this is no surprise to anyone who a uniform. From day 1 of your service, the UCMJ is your law, your guide, your authority, and your shield. Nothing else matters.

It assigns the penalty of death for what Bergdahl did. Why would anyone expect soldiers to cheer the return of someone who they know should be shot?

BobMbx on June 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Bottom line is that Obama and his entire Administration do not understand the Military in and way shape or form, and they are not capable of understanding what it takes to join and serve in the Military.

They think that anyone who is in the Military is some mindless drone who is just awaiting any crumb the Administration throws them and will cheer anything that Obama does because he is POTUS. All of the above is said from a perspective of 21+ years of Active Duty Service.

I doubt this was even brought up in any of the many meetings that must have happened to over rule the CIA and DOD on this issue.

Johnnyreb on June 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Unexpected!

Occams Stubble on June 3, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Military who objected to the Bergdahl release told by White House to “suck it up and salute.”

Rational Thought on June 3, 2014 at 4:57 PM

And I hope they arrest him.

ConstantineXI on June 3, 2014 at 4:59 PM

“Well, that escalated quickly.”

ThePrez on June 3, 2014 at 4:59 PM

“I mean, that really got out of hand fast!”

ThePrez on June 3, 2014 at 5:00 PM

He also thought Obamacare would be a success.

LOL.

Bigbullets on June 3, 2014 at 5:01 PM

The White House expected “euphoria” over Bergdahl’s release

Have no fear White House. Verby is fapping over this as hard as he can in order to achieve euphoric release.

Left Coast Right Mind on June 3, 2014 at 5:01 PM

All of which is to say, this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture

BINGO! This administration’s reaction to anything military reminds me of the Nicholson line in A Few Good Men:

“We use words like “honor”, “code”, “loyalty”. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline.”

They really think the Warrior Ethos is just lip service and nobody really believes it.

melle1228 on June 3, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Update: WH overrode review process to free Taliban

Of course, Dog Eater IS THE DAMN LAW, anytime you peasant flyover types start screaming about following the law you just remember this: The IRS has a mighty long reach.

And yet again we need to revisit the past:

we’re more comfortable with Obama wielding this sort of power because he seems a hell of a lot more effective and responsible with it.

urban elitist on February 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Cannot imagine what shit they’ll pull to try to change the narrative on this major disaster, but no doubt it’s gonna be a doozy.

Rational Thought on June 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Chuck Todd will be a Democratic Press Secretary one day. The official kind anyway.

JQA on June 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Hey why aren’t our troll friends here to stick up for their hero?

sandee on June 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Obama’s move was an ultimate victory for those at the White House and the State Department who had previously argued the military should “suck it up and salute,” says the official familiar with the debate…

BOOM! There you have it. The WH is all alone in making this decision. He can’t blame it on the intel or defense department.

Overheard in the Oval office moments ago: “Val, we are alone in this….”

BobMbx on June 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM

To Obama and his minions, the military has always been nothing but pawns for social experimentation.

kingsjester on June 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM

One: Despite a Pentagon investigation in 2010 into Bergdahl’s disappearance, despite Michael Hastings’s article two years ago in Rolling Stone, despite the fact that Bergdahl apparently left a note confirming his desertion,


Despite
having a motto, “Don’t Do Stupid Shit.”

Can ANYONE name any major decision by the Obama Administration that wasn’t steeped in stupid shit?

Namely, Obama expected “euphoria” over Bergdahl’s release not because he didn’t know about the desertion claims but because he assumed that most of the public would never find out. I think he expected the media to go face-first into the tank in ignoring the desertion angle in the interest of (a) protecting the White House and (b) playing up the gauzy “POW reunited with parents” human-interest stuff.


The anger over the VA debacle is widespread, bi-partisan and DEEP.

Anyone inside the administration with a voice in this matter KNEW that fact from their internal polling. What they didn’t account for is the fact the VA dabacle has splashed a lot of shit accountability onto the MSM for knowing the the scope of the problems but deciding they weren’t “newsworthy”.

The WH doesn’t check how the MSM is polling. If they had, they would have known Bergdahl would serve as role model for the people they were counting on for political cover.

“I don’t want to fight FOR the Obama Administration any more.”

The X factor they didn’t anticipate, I’ll bet, is that soldiers like Cody Full would come forward and risk retaliation for putting his name to the “deserter” theory. It’s one thing to call a Republican a hack, it’s another to call a veteran who was there and who lost friends in the hunt for Bergdahl one. They’ve been left with no counter.

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The X factor everyone in the media, including Hot Air, is still NOT covering is,

“Why are American soldiers, CIA agents and many other government employees being coerced into signing non-disclosure agreements?”

If you can’t figure out some theories you want to put forward … at least have the stones to title an article with THAT question and post it here for comment.

PolAgnostic on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

He thought this was going to be a slam-dunk win. First, we get a POW back — he likely thought that the military and even some independents would be thrilled. Second, he ended up giving five people a way out if Guantanamo. That was expected to please his base and show that he’s working to close the camp. If he was attacked over it, he could point to the POW and the expected happiness of the military.

It goes to show just how tone deaf and desperate the administration is. They probably did know of the desertion angle, but discounted it.

Revenant on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

I bet Obama thought going to Europe he could ignore this. Unfortunately for Barry the media there isn’t afraid of him…

sandee on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

The Choomer in Chief miscalculated…or was it Ploufe and Jarrett?

jake49 on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

All about the O

Suck it up and salute…..

Yeah that sounds like something Obama and Hillary would say

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

The Bergdahl treachery will be obama’s legacy.

America brung this pig, twice, for shame.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Obama’s national security team wanted the transfer to happen so it happened,

Wow… that is oxymoronic on SO many levels.

Forget about the 3AM phone call… there’s no one who could competently answer ANY phone call.

Marcola on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

All of which is to say, this seems to boil down to a fundamental misunderstanding by the White House of military culture. If soldiers had reacted the way O expected, celebrating the release of a POW, it really would have tamped down the criticism of Bergdahl. For obvious reasons: If the men who risk their lives defending America are willing to forgive him and welcome his return, who are the rest of us to question him? But that’s not how the men who served with him reacted; in fact, unless I missed it, not a single member of Bergdahl’s unit has spoken up in his defense. Obama gambled heavily that both veterans and the media would keep quiet. He lost.

“Those traitors!!!”
/King Barry

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

This is getting uglier by the hour. It sounds like we’re no longer dealing with a deserter here, but a full-blown traitor.

Doughboy on June 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Bergdahl or Obama?

BobMbx on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

…what Drug where they taking?

KOOLAID2 on June 3, 2014 at 4:55 PM

It goes by the street names of “verbaluce,” “coolrepublica,” and “triple.”

non-nonpartisan on June 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM

To Obama and his minions, the military has always been nothing but pawns for social experimentation.

kingsjester on June 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM

And background props to be used when the occasion calls for it. To which Obama has added a new one “umbrella holder”.

ConstantineXI on June 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM

He is a traitor….

crosshugger on June 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Traitors stick together. Americans wake the heII up!

Bmore on June 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Coming soon from the White House:

“Hey, wanna talk about the VA? We were bad, very very bad. Let’s talk about how bad we were.”

“Let’s talk about Benghazi! Wanna see the secret reports? Here! Look! Oooh, boy, did we ever screw that up.”

Rational Thought on June 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

…how many American Dads would speak in the language of the Enemy about his son and say what he said AGAINST the military ?

Did Obama know what the man was going to say ?

Incompetence on parade is the only explanation, and its bigger than we ever thought was possible. Did Joe Biden write the script for this display of incompetnece ? That I could understand.

JayTee on June 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Who watched the presser by Bergdahl’s parents — was on the day before the WH Rose Garden mess.

Bergdahl’s father aggressively boasted that “we (handpicked) them” as to whoever it is who greeted Bergdahl for his decompression, so to speak, after being freed.

It was peculiar, to state the least. This is no mere set of parents from uninvolved-USA outlier land, as to the Obama-deed.

Lourdes on June 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Pretty soon Obama is gonna tell us he didn’t know about this till he read it in the news…

sandee on June 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Closing Gitmo means everything, even if the price is sending these lunatics back into battle.

That and to distract from the growing VA scandal.

sentinelrules on June 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

This is getting uglier by the hour. It sounds like we’re no longer dealing with a deserter here, but a full-blown traitor.

Doughboy on June 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

And, God bless them, people who *know* the truth are unashamedly and fearlessly speaking it.

Midas on June 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

What is be going to say in Normandy for the 70th anniversary…. no one will believe a word he’ll say

Idiot

CNN hack giving the wh talking points about the Republican who us pushing those poor soldiers into telling folks

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

The Choomer in Chief miscalculated…or was it Ploufe and Jarrett?

jake49 on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

This one was so amateur hour that it had to be Obama’s himself. Jarrett has been responsible for an awful lot of blunders (hence why the slicker Poedesta was brought in) but this one just so reeks of kindergarten idiocy it HAD to come from Barry himself…

ConstantineXI on June 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM

ConstantineXI on June 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Yep.

He doesn’t give a rat’s arse about them…except to use them as a political tool.

kingsjester on June 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM

BINGO! This administration’s reaction to anything military reminds me of the Nicholson line in A Few Good Men:

“We use words like “honor”, “code”, “loyalty”. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline.”

They really think the Warrior Ethos is just lip service and nobody really believes it.

melle1228 on June 3, 2014 at 5:01 PM

But in the end, Obama ordered the Code Red and a mess ensued.

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM

As I alluded to on the other thread, my anger level is at a high pitch seeing the faces of those lost men, and the little girl in the photo that her father can’t even hug….whoooooo….steam from the ears.

You want to see a textbook method to get 99% of U.S. veterans hating a politician with every fiber of their being, this is it.

Gaia help the dog eater if Berg is proven to be the scum that all the evidence is pointing to.

Bishop on June 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM

I agree with this article. I bet the WH was fully expecting the press to swoon over this. I bet one of the political operatives said it would be a big plus for us in the media. Then Obama or one of the inside group said something like “Make it happen”. When it came back up the line some idiot with no real knowledge of the situation said ok and reported to Obama -”we have a deal” and with no real thought he said DO IT

I cant imagine serious planning or serious thought allowing this swap to take place. Just they just saw one side – atta boys from the press for bringing our guy home

minus200 on June 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Bergdahl or Obama?

BobMbx on June 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Heh. Touche.

Doughboy on June 3, 2014 at 5:09 PM

This is getting uglier by the hour. It sounds like we’re no longer dealing with a deserter here, but a full-blown traitor.

Doughboy on June 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

And, God bless them, people who *know* the truth are unashamedly and fearlessly speaking it.

Midas on June 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Amen to that.

Bitter Clinger on June 3, 2014 at 5:09 PM

I disagree that “Obama’s stupid” in this context (if not otherwise).

He’s not WISE, he’s not well-intended where the USA and what we/our Allies consider to be good and beneficial. He may just not be a Friendly and that’s what’s alarming me.

Lourdes on June 3, 2014 at 5:09 PM

MSG Allen’s wife would like people to meet her husband:

“Meet my husband, injuries directly brought to you by the actions of this traitor. He can’t give an account of what went down, because he can no longer speak. Now, which guy is a ‘hero’ again?!? Sick.”

Resist We Much on June 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM

I think this woman and her husband would be an even worse visual for Obama than the parents of the dead serviceman.

Wethal on June 3, 2014 at 5:09 PM

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM

And, this point, Scooter needs to stay home. He dishonors the brave men, including my Daddy, who jumped out of those boats that day.

kingsjester on June 3, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Harry Reid seems to be the ONLY person who was told about the swap prior to it

cmsinaz on June 3, 2014 at 5:10 PM

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