Parents of fallen soldier: Our son died looking for Bergdahl and the military lied to us about it

posted at 3:21 pm on June 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

Their son, Second Lieutenant Darryn Andrews, was also named in Nathan Bradley Bethea’s Daily Beast piece today as one of the men from his battalion killed in action during the search.

If the accusation is true, it wouldn’t be the first time higher-ups tweaked the narrative about how an American soldier died to make it less problematic for the military.

At the time his family say they were told that his men were hunting a Taliban commander and that the truck at the front of their group ended in a hole after being hit by an Improvised Explosive Device.

As the men got out to try and move the truck, a Taliban fighter with a rocket propelled grenade emerged and fired at them.

Lt Andrews was the only one to see it and tackled three of his men to prevent them being hit. He took a direct hit and died…

Speaking to MailOnline from his home in Cameron, Texas, Mr Andrews said: ‘When my son was killed there was no mention of searching for this guy (Bergdahl) but once all this has come out we got several emails and calls from soldiers who were with him in Afghanistan.

‘They say their mission was to search for Bergdahl. He (Lt Andrews) was killed in the search. We have no documentation of that.

According to Bethea, Andrews and his squad were on patrol to a village near the area where Bergdahl went missing when they were attacked. Mr. and Mrs. Andrews claim that the same troops who told them the truth about why their son was really on that mission also told them that they were forced to sign “a letter” that they wouldn’t discuss the circumstances of the incident. That detail is also corroborated by Jake Tapper’s CNN report this morning, claiming that several troops who served with Bergdahl were asked to sign nondisclosure agreements. (“Highly unusual,” per one of Stephen Hayes’s sources in the defense establishment.) But if you don’t buy any of that, read the firsthand accounts — which I linked here — from troops who claim to have served with Bergdahl who are also skeptical of why he went missing. I didn’t realize this, but apparently the Pentagon conducted its own investigation in 2010 into why Bergdahl disappeared and concluded that, indeed, he walked away from his post. Quote: “[A]fter an initial flurry of searching the military decided not to exert extraordinary efforts to rescue him, according to a former senior defense official who was involved in the matter.” I’ve been asking people on Twitter this afternoon whether it’s S.O.P. to risk soldiers’ lives to conduct searches in a dangerous area to find a suspected deserter. Answer: Yes, just because you can’t be absolutely sure that he wasn’t taken against his will. The fact that the military quickly scaled back “extraordinary efforts” to rescue him, though, speaks volumes. Clearly, they weren’t willing to pay a price steeper than what they’d already paid to find a guy whose disappearance they suspected wasn’t accidental.

Via the Corner, here’s Jay Carney once again ducking a question about whether Bergdahl deserted. The White House can’t have been taken by surprise by the circumstances of Bergdahl’s capture, right? They had that Pentagon report from 2010 to consult; Michael Hastings wrote a widely read story for Rolling Stone two years ago raising the possibility of desertion as well. They went into this prisoner swap with their eyes open, and yet Carney seems to have no spin prepared to deal with the inevitable questions. I guess they counted on the men from Bergdahl’s squad staying silent as we handed over five Taliban savages to get him back. Big mistake.


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just because you disagree with my politics doesnt mean i am automatically wrong.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Yes, it does because your “politics” don’t work. It brings only poverty and enslavement, but you’re too dense to comprehend that, or maybe you do and you’re just full of self-loathing and hatred for mankind.

307wolverine on June 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Yes, it does because your “politics” don’t work. It brings only poverty and enslavement, but you’re too dense to comprehend that, or maybe you do and you’re just full of self-loathing and hatred for mankind.

307wolverine on June 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

none of that..true or not..has any bearing on what language the taliban use.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM

none of that..true or not..has any bearing on what language the taliban use.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Pick that nit and rejoice in your petty “victory” and overlook the Big Picture.

307wolverine on June 2, 2014 at 5:24 PM

*points politely to the “Please don’t feed *ANY* of the trolls” sign*

Midas on June 2, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Anybody remember the scene at the end of Poltergeist where Craig T. Nelson realizes that the development company only moved the headstones as the pace of events speed up and the the house begins to implode? I think the Obama administration is approaching this point.

ReaganWasRight on June 2, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Repost: I saw this video on Japanese television (NHK) over the weekend — looks like it is finally making its way to the US media (how I hate linking to an NBC site; if the mods are good this link will not work!):

Gitmo releasees arrive in Qatar

Alien on June 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Pick that nit and rejoice in your petty “victory” and overlook the Big Picture.

307wolverine on June 2, 2014 at 5:24 PM

now you admit you were wrong..maybe youre wrong about other things as well. hmm..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 5:29 PM

And yet, his vision of the world has not come to pass. The Kochs vision of the world is the one we are in now.

libfreeordie on June 2, 2014 at 4:32 PM

The Soros thing: Not for lack of trying. As for the Koch vision of the world, whatever that might be (though I think you’re full of it and you have no idea what their ‘vision of the world’ is) – any vision of the world is better than that of a Nazi abetter and sympathizer turned socialist (just named Soros) and traitor of his own people, or that of an Muslim appeaser imbecile who deel down thinks that the world will conform to his idiotic views of it.

jimver on June 2, 2014 at 5:31 PM

A good soldier died trying to save a man who abandoned and hated his country. The government lied about it. Then broke the law releasing known killers in exchange for the deserter.

And there are 2.5 more years of this.

AshleyTKing on June 2, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Killary just cackles at the novelty of this diversion.

Carney just showed the Presstitutes how to handle the embarrassment.

As for the effect it will have on King Talibama Putt?

Water-meet-duck’s-back.

Missilengr on June 2, 2014 at 5:33 PM

of knowledge on the subject you were adressing. if you want to continue appearing ignorant then be my guest.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM

As someone not in this fight, I suggest you learn how to spell prior to pointing fingers at others.

avagreen on June 2, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Anybody remember the scene at the end of Poltergeist where Craig T. Nelson realizes that the development company only moved the headstones as the pace of events speed up and the house begins to implode? I think the Obama administration is approaching this point.

ReaganWasRight on June 2, 2014 at 5:26 PM

God willing.

avagreen on June 2, 2014 at 5:42 PM

*less politely holds up the “Stop encouraging the f*cking trolls” sign*

Midas on June 2, 2014 at 5:43 PM

A good soldier died trying to save a man who abandoned and hated his country. The government lied about it. Then broke the law releasing known killers in exchange for the deserter.

And there are 2.5 more years of this.

AshleyTKing on June 2, 2014 at 5:31 PM

At the very least, 2.5 more years.

Could even be more than that.

Stay tuned.

hawkeye54 on June 2, 2014 at 5:44 PM

now you admit you were wrong..maybe youre wrong about other things as well. hmm..

ThisIsWhat’sLeftOfYourBrainOnSoros on June 2, 2014 at 5:29 PM

You’ve been wrong all day, as evidenced by your abject fear of telling us how the Kochs have subverted Democracy.

Let us know when Harry Reid gives you those talking points, m’kay?

Del Dolemonte on June 2, 2014 at 5:45 PM

*less politely holds up the “Stop encouraging the f*cking trolls” sign*

Midas on June 2, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Yessir. *saluting with hand to head*

avagreen on June 2, 2014 at 5:45 PM

An observation: IMHO, way too much attention is wasted on tit-for-tat with liberal trolls on this site by otherwise eminently intelligent people.
This surprises me, given how widely known it is that you can’t argue with liberals. I mean, I really enjoy the abundance of wit and wisdom possessed by so many here. For me, this is the draw of HA. So I wonder why is it so often just – squandered, in casting “pearls to the swine…”?

Can someone enlighten me?

mpower on June 2, 2014 at 5:48 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014

Little one, you’re an idiot.

CW on June 2, 2014 at 5:53 PM

An observation: IMHO, way too much attention is wasted on tit-for-tat with liberal trolls on this site by otherwise eminently intelligent people.
This surprises me, given how widely known it is that you can’t argue with liberals. I mean, I really enjoy the abundance of wit and wisdom possessed by so many here. For me, this is the draw of HA. So I wonder why is it so often just – squandered, in casting “pearls to the swine…”?

Can someone enlighten me?

mpower on June 2, 2014 at 5:48 PM

The situation is even worse when you realize Koch is a non-leftist troll. He’s looking for attention for his pathetic self, and he keeps getting it.

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 5:53 PM

I guess they counted on the men from Bergdahl’s squad staying silent as we handed over five Taliban savages to get him back. Big mistake.

Not really. “Loyalty” and “truth” don’t have the same meaning for Team Obama. For them it’s “flexible”.

GarandFan on June 2, 2014 at 5:54 PM

How many desertions were there total in Iraq and Afghanistan. Does anyone know that?

libfreeordie on June 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Found another one who deserted in Afghanistan; his name is Sgt. Micah Turner. But he made his way back to the US and joined Occupy Wall Street!

Del Dolemonte on June 2, 2014 at 5:55 PM

The situation is even worse when you realize Koch is a non-leftist troll. He’s looking for attention for his pathetic self, and he keeps getting it.

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Then he is, as the passage says, a “swine.” This makes my point.
So again, how come, y’all?

mpower on June 2, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Ditto. “Feeding wildlife is strictly prohibited.”

warmairfan on June 2, 2014 at 6:06 PM

And yet, his vision of the world has not come to pass. The Kochs vision of the world is the one we are in now.

libfreeordie on June 2, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Deviant says what?

You’re hilarious.

Scum.

CW on June 2, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Then he is, as the passage says, a “swine.” This makes my point.
So again, how come, y’all?

mpower on June 2, 2014 at 6:01 PM

The Koch troll is “obtuse” on purpose. The “intent” behind his words is nonexistent. He’s unserious, and sociopathic. To argue with him is no different than arguing with a bot. I guess you might say he ensnares people who like to argue for the sake of it.

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Profound

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Too bad, having to scroll/wade through the weeds to get to the good stuff here.

mpower on June 2, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2014 at 6:16 PM

“Good stuff”!

mpower on June 2, 2014 at 6:22 PM

im obtuse for insisting on the truth that the primary language of the taliban is pashto, the secondary language is urdu, and that persian is frowned upon? but those incorrectly insisting (after theyve been proved wrong) that the language of the taliban is farsi or arabic are not obtuse?

remind me again what ‘obtuse’ means..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 6:37 PM

“What does it matter?” ~ The Democrat Party

Hening on June 2, 2014 at 6:38 PM

remind me again what ‘obtuse’ means..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 6:37 PM

lmao

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 6:45 PM

There always seems to be a new troll after Hot Air opens up the comments.

Sabercat2 on June 2, 2014 at 6:48 PM

There always seems to be a new troll after Hot Air opens up the comments.

Sabercat2 on June 2, 2014 at 6:48 PM

This Koch troll has been here for a while. He has a legion of socks. And he keeps adding to his collection every open reg. He’s insane.

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 6:52 PM

How stupid does this sh***y administration think the American public is?

That’s all I got. sigh.

BettyRuth on June 2, 2014 at 6:53 PM

This Koch troll has been here for a while. He has a legion of socks. And he keeps adding to his collection every open reg. He’s insane.

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 6:52 PM

you keep saying that. i keep telling you youre wrong. i think youre the one on the verge of insantity.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 7:00 PM

At the time his family say they were told that his men were hunting a Taliban commander and that the truck at the front of their group ended in a hole after being hit by an Improvised Explosive Device.

As the men got out to try and move the truck, a Taliban fighter with a rocket propelled grenade emerged and fired at them.

Lt Andrews was the only one to see it and tackled three of his men to prevent them being hit. He took a direct hit and died…

A hero died to try to “save” a deserter……and comes home from an illegal, unlawful swap.

While Lt Andrews family lives with the loss of their son.

I can’t comprehend anyone who would defend the facts in evidence.

itsspideyman on June 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM

you keep saying that. i keep telling you youre wrong. i think youre the one on the verge of insantity.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM

meh.

itsspideyman on June 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Running to the store for some Angel Soft TP in honor of BrainOnKoch and LibFree. BRB

kringeesmom on June 2, 2014 at 7:06 PM

kringeesmom on June 2, 2014 at 7:06 PM

They’ll be here buddy, trying to hold back the ocean with their fingers….

itsspideyman on June 2, 2014 at 7:12 PM

ReaganWasRight on June 2, 2014 at 5:26 PM

From your lips to God’s ears.

We can only hope, because I truly believe there is NO ONE in DeeCee who is going to do anything about this.

kozanne on June 2, 2014 at 7:18 PM

As I write this in Seoul, I’m about 40 miles from where an American sergeant defected to North Korea in 1965. Charles Robert Jenkins later admitted that he was terrified of being sent to Vietnam, so he got drunk and wandered off on a patrol. He was finally released in 2004, after almost 40 hellish years of brutal internment. The Army court-martialed him, sentencing him to 30 days’ confinement and a dishonorable discharge. He now lives peacefully with his wife in Japan—they met in captivity in North Korea, where they were both forced to teach foreign languages to DPRK agents. His desertion barely warranted a comment, but he was not hailed as a hero. He was met with sympathy and humanity, and he was allowed to live his life, but he had to answer for what he did.

I believe that Bergdahl also deserves sympathy, but he has much to answer for, some of which is far more damning than simply having walked off. Many have suffered because of his actions: his fellow soldiers, their families, his family, the Afghan military, the unaffiliated Afghan civilians in Paktika, and none of this suffering was inevitable. None of it had to happen. Therefore, while I’m pleased that he’s safe, I believe there is an explanation due. Reprimanding him might yield horrible press for the Army, making our longest war even less popular than it is today. Retrieving him at least reminds soldiers that we will never abandon them to their fates, right or wrong. In light of the propaganda value, I do not expect the Department of Defense to punish Bergdahl.

He’s lucky to have survived. I once saw an insurgent cellphone video of an Afghan National Police enlistee. They had young boys hold him down, boys between the ages of 10 and 15, all of whom giggled like they were jumping on a trampoline. The prisoner screamed and pleaded for his life. The captors cut this poor man’s head off. That’s what the Taliban and their allies do to their captives who don’t have the bargaining value of an American soldier. That’s what they do to their fellow Afghans on a regular basis. No human being deserves that treatment, or to face the threat of that treatment every day for nearly five years.

But that certainly doesn’t make Bergdahl a hero, and that doesn’t mean that the soldiers he left behind have an obligation to forgive him.

Resist We Much on June 2, 2014 at 7:27 PM

He’s insane.

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Now you did it, one of the socks will come out and tell us that it’s not true, his mother had him tested….

Athos on June 2, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Now you did it, one of the socks will come out and tell us that it’s not true, his mother had him tested….

Athos on June 2, 2014 at 7:27 PM

lol =)

What kind of a person would spend hours using socks to troll and bash his fellow commenters while also running a name that is was pretty well liked? Who would think such a person is normal, and mentally healthy? He’s a lying nut.

non-nonpartisan on June 2, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Good to know “Pops” Bergdahl gave praise to Allah, the most merciful upon hearing of his sons release.

I remember the haughty days after 9/11 when Democrats were doing everything they could to look tough on terror. Good times, my friends. Good times.

Now, a mere 12 years later, the Democrats are openly doing the bidding of CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. Huma A. Wiener, right hand of Hillary Clinton, supposedly has familial ties to the MB. Now we learn the WH trades 5 tough as nails terrorist for one Army deserter. I bet they make a mean Shwerma Hummus at the WH these days.

Anyone care for a cookie? They are “Halal” compliant.

famous amos on June 2, 2014 at 8:14 PM

When Bergdahl ‘walked away’ from his post, he took his cellphone. The next day, he used it to call his commanders and to tell them that he was not going to return.

That’s desertion. No way that we should have expended the blood and treasure that we did or trade 5 top-level, hardened Islamists, 2 of which are wanted by The Hague for war crimes.

Resist We Much on June 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

BrainOnKoch, I’m here smart ass.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Nothing? Nothing at all, you useless dog squeeze?

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM

sorry. had to make a few phone calls to set up meetings for tomorrow. im here now.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

This place has gone to total shit.

I’m done.

Have fun talking to socks.

Murphy9 on June 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:31 PM

No need I am quite sure of me to say this. I will say it all the same. Be wary. There are many traitors here in our midst. They seek to have us banned. They are traveling in a pack.

Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 8:41 PM

sorry. had to make a few phone calls to set up meetings for tomorrow. im here now.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

I’ll make it easy. This was a thread about LT Darryn Andrews and his parents loss. He’s was a brother as a fellow 82ND Airborne trooper and you completely derailed a thread about him and what Bergdahl did to cost him his life. Bergdahl’s also on the hook for the deaths of at least five other soldiers who died looking for him.

Your president released five unimaginably dangerous terrorists to get that traitor back and you think this is all a grand joke.

Whoever you are, you’re sick. If you think this was the thread prove you can derail a conversation, you’re just sad and pathetic.

We’re done. I dismiss you.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:47 PM

This place has gone to total shit.

I’m done.

Have fun talking to socks.

Murphy9 on June 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Dude:

This is what trolls want. They crap in the punch bowl as a form of censorship. They want you to get disgusted and leave. Do what I do: mock and ridicule them. The biggest mistake folks make is thinking that the trolls are up for rational, reasoned debate. They are not. Make fun of them. Insult them. They deserve nothing less.

307wolverine on June 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

I’ll make it easy. This was a thread about LT Darryn Andrews and his parents loss. He’s was a brother as a fellow 82ND Airborne trooper and you completely derailed a thread about him and what Bergdahl did to cost him his life. Bergdahl’s also on the hook for the deaths of at least five other soldiers who died looking for him.

i am as saddened by andrews loss and the loss of the others as you are. i also have questions about bergdahls actions and motivations.

Your president released five unimaginably dangerous terrorists to get that traitor back and you think this is all a grand joke.

i dont think any of this is a joke and i never said anything to indicate that. btw hes your president too. and whatever your feelings or my feelings on bergdahl it was still the presidents job to try to bring him home.

Whoever you are, you’re sick. If you think this was the thread prove you can derail a conversation, you’re just sad and pathetic.

i made a quick correction of a commentors factual error and others insisted on arguing with me when they were wrong. not really my fault it snowballed.

We’re done. I dismiss you.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:47 PM

aye aye sir!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

You id has been compromised.

Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

*Your

Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Dang for a second there I thought that nitwits English had rubbed off on me. Ick!

Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

aye aye sir!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I’m done for the night. But I’m sick over the way you regarded this thread. Sick that a thread with such a grim reminder what this idiot has cost us is so easily turned into an attention whore exercise for you.

So sick of how little these men mean to people like you.

I’m done and apologies to Murphy9.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I’m done for the night. But I’m sick over the way you regarded this thread. Sick that a thread with such a grim reminder what this idiot has cost us is so easily turned into an attention whore exercise for you.

your doing a pretty good job with the attention whore thing yourself right now. and i didnt show any disrespect despite what you say (also the notion that you can respect a thread as if it was holy ground is a little over the top). topical discussion of related facts is to be avoided now?

So sick of how little these men mean to people like you.

you have no idea how much they mean to me and to pretend you do is ridiculous.

I’m done and apologies to Murphy9.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

probably for the best before you make more unfounded assumptions.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

probably for the best before you make more unfounded assumptions.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Assumptions. They’re observations you “half”wit. You, if you were really all that concerned about soldiers wouldn’t have turned a thread about parents grieving theirs who died looking for an asshat who wandered off a base on purpose and cost at least six American military men their lives.

Can we agree that he cost many men their lives unnecessarily?

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

This is what trolls want. They crap in the punch bowl as a form of censorship. They want you to get disgusted and leave. Do what I do: mock and ridicule them. The biggest mistake folks make is thinking that the trolls are up for rational, reasoned debate. They are not. Make fun of them. Insult them. They deserve nothing less.

307wolverine on June 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Murphy’s point is made, at least to me, that the mods could give a crap about scum like kochsucker. The trolls are allowed all day to spew their garbage all over these threads without a warning about staying on topic. The threads usually end up all about the trolls and waaaay off topic.

Garym on June 2, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Assumptions. They’re observations you “half”wit. You, if you were really all that concerned about soldiers wouldn’t have turned a thread about parents grieving theirs who died looking for an asshat who wandered off a base on purpose and cost at least six American military men their lives.

nothign i posted was unrelated to the topics of this thread and if you disliked my comments that much you could have skipped over them or found a calmer way to ask i discuss certain things in a different thread. i really wasnt trying to derail anything. and i certainly didnt do anything to prevent anyone from discussing whatever they deemed to be more on topic.

Can we agree that he cost many men their lives unnecessarily?

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

it certainly seems that way. the evidence looks more and more conclusive (though im reserving final final judgement until more officials address this directly). if what appears to be true is true then bergdahl has alot to answer for possibly in a court martial( but that doesnt mean we shouldnt have tried to get him returned). and i really do feel for the families who lost their sons/brothers/fathers. especially if it was all because of one stupid/nutty/traitorous persons actions.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 9:25 PM

The walk back.

Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 9:28 PM

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

it certainly seems that way. the evidence looks more and more conclusive (though im reserving final final judgement until more officials address this directly). if what appears to be true is true then bergdahl has alot to answer for possibly in a court martial( but that doesnt mean we shouldnt have tried to get him returned). and i really do feel for the families who lost their sons/brothers/fathers. especially if it was all because of one stupid/nutty/traitorous persons actions.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 9:25 PM

I guess it was more important though to make a big deal about someone confusing Pashtun with a different language?

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:29 PM

I’ve never seen Hawkdriver launch like this before..

But I must say, it was indeed a pleasure to watch.

wolly4321 on June 2, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Discussing this issue with a co-worker today. The typical 30 something family male who for some strange reason remains clueless about nearly everything politics. I’m not even sure he votes…..you know the type.
Regardless, I’m very vocal about my absolute disgust for this president, his administration, the feckless GOP establishment, and pretty much the whole DC/political culture.
When I discussed this issue with him, he laughed and stated “is there anything this administration does right, because it seems you never have anything good to say about them? Even in light of something we should be happy about, you still find fault with them?”
I paused for a moment thinking he may be right; I may be overly critical.
It was a 1 to 2 second pause – I honestly can’t believe I took that much time, but right after I emphatically stated ; “there is absolutely nothing, nothing this president and his admin. have done that allows me to acknowledge a job well done. Nothing they do is for the good of the nation and it’s people – everything they do is selfish and in nearly all cases, the antithesis of good governance.”
He looked at me and said “Ok, ok. Look I’m really not that into politics…..” Right there I cut him off and interjected “You got kids?”
He said, “yeah”.
“You care about ‘em, I said”?
He replied, “yes”.
“How old are your kids, I asked”?
“8 and 10, he said.”
“Well that’s about the average psychological age of those in charge of this nation right now – start paying f’ng attention – and I mean right f’ng NOW! Your political ignorance is going to cost your kids dearly in every way, shape, and form imaginable in the very near future. Now I’m finished talking about it, and get your negligent arse up to speed with whats going on. – start by going to Hot Air.”

Hey Dougyes this is about you my man.

StubbornGreenBurros on June 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Doesn’t the military think they may have a little trouble getting men to fight if they’re going to protect and favor deserters?

bluesdoc70 on June 2, 2014 at 10:32 PM

The White House can’t have been taken by surprise by the circumstances of Bergdahl’s capture, right? They had that Pentagon report from 2010 to consult; Michael Hastings wrote a widely read story for Rolling Stone two years ago raising the possibility of desertion as well. They went into this prisoner swap with their eyes open, and yet Carney seems to have no spin prepared to deal with the inevitable questions.

AP seems to have forgotten that this Administration exceeds all known human boundaries of incompetence. They have reached Quantum Incompetence.

Lamont Cranston on June 3, 2014 at 12:11 AM

307wolverine on June 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Murphy’s point is made, at least to me, that the mods could give a crap about scum like kochsucker. The trolls are allowed all day to spew their garbage all over these threads without a warning about staying on topic. The threads usually end up all about the trolls and waaaay off topic.

Garym on June 2, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Maybe socks are created/kept around to drive up posts? I know that The Hill does this. All the time.

avagreen on June 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM

it certainly seems that way. the evidence looks more and more conclusive (though im reserving final final judgement until more officials address this directly). if what appears to be true is true then bergdahl has alot to answer for possibly in a court martial( but that doesnt mean we shouldnt have tried to get him returned). and i really do feel for the families who lost their sons/brothers/fathers. especially if it was all because of one stupid/nutty/traitorous persons actions.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Why not?

And, why is it worth letting go 5 significant terrorists to get back this guy?

In your efforts to defend Obama’s incompetence, you are tied in pretzel logic. the idea that any price is OK to pay to get back any soldier – even a deserter – is absurd. Frankly, I don’t think we should pay any price for such an individual.

Now, even if Bergdahl was not a deserter, I don’t think this was a good deal. I’m not 100% against the idea of making some trade for an American soldier, but this trade is asinine. Only a truly ignorant, incompetent would do it. but, that is Obama.

Monkeytoe on June 3, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Much earlier in the war, an instance when the Pentagon lied about the circumstances of a soldier’s death was the case of Pat Tillman. Apparently, Tillman was killed by friendly fire, but the Pentagon concocted some story to make his death easier for his family to accept.

Steelweaver52 on June 3, 2014 at 8:48 AM

Maybe socks are created/kept around to drive up posts? I know that The Hill does this. All the time.

avagreen on June 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM

Do you think Ed or MKH would ever allow that? I don’t. No way.

The Koch sockmaster is a non-leftist who would rather troll than attack Demoncrats and other illiberals. He’s mental sick.

non-nonpartisan on June 3, 2014 at 12:01 PM

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