Oh my: Elizabeth Warren no longer dismissing questions about running for president

posted at 7:21 pm on June 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

She’s said many times that she has no intention of running, going so far as to co-sign a letter beseeching Her Majesty, Queen Hillary, to take her rightful place upon the throne in 2016. But would-be candidates say lots of things early in the cycle. Remember when Obama said, a few months after being elected to the Senate, that he wouldn’t run for president in 2008 because he was a big believer in knowing what you’re doing when you apply for a job? Two years later, he decided he knew what he was doing after all. And that’s how we ended up with a government that swaps terrorists for accused deserters.

HuffPo’s promoting this clip heavily, even though it may just be that Warren’s tired of answering the question. This part does sound campaign-y, though:

“I do believe in us,” said Warren. “And I believe in us on days like this, on a morning where a whole lot of people come together to talk about ideas, to talk about two books. Because what we’re talking about in here is we’re talking about economics, we’re talking about power, but we’re also talking about values. This is a moment in time for our country and, I believe, for our world, a moment in time where we decide who we are as a people and what kind of a future we’re going to build. As your [Thomas Piketty's] book shows, it’s tough, it is an uphill climb. It will not happen naturally that the world will even back out. But what it also shows is that these are not natural forces that make it happen, it’s a set of rules by which we govern ourselves, and here in America we the people get to decide what the rules are. So I get how hard this is. This is about concentrated money and power on one side, but it’s about our values, our voices and our votes on our side. I believe we can fight back. I believe we can win.”

What she’s really doing here, I think, is preserving a little strategic ambiguity to keep the pressure on Hillary to pander to the left. She’s not going to run and she wouldn’t win if she did, but if she starts speaking campaign-ese, she can make sure that Hillary invests in plenty of income inequality rhetoric next year that the left can hold her to later. It’s already begun, in fact. Warren is a useful threat for progressives even if she’s not much of a threat at all.

Let’s face it: Warren vs. Cruz is the election partisans want, Clinton vs. Bush is the election partisans will get. Alas.


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We’re so screwed.

changer1701 on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

if elizabeth warren was a golden girl which golden girl would she be?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch

The Indian.

xblade on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

The “yes we can” crap is dead and buried. It was a failure.

Chuck Schick on June 2, 2014 at 8:06 PM

yea..such a failure that the man who campaigned on it was reelected comfortably.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

I propose rook is your sock.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Where you been? Youv’e missed some very interesting stuff.

Yeah, that is one hot mess, ain’t it?

Jaibones on June 2, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Gonna get shithot here shortly. ; )

Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Since Bea Arthur is roasting in helI

V7_Sport on June 2, 2014 at 7:56 PM

really? why?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 7:58 PM

You can ask her. When you get there.

davidk on June 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Warren vs. Cruz is the election partisans want

Man, that’d be fun. Cruz’s “Harvard” condescension would not work very well against a woman actually taught there – and while Cruz was a mere student, no less.

righty45 on June 2, 2014 at 8:10 PM

There’s only one place Elizabeth Warren can win an election, Massachusetts. If there is one nominee I’d rather see than Hillary, it’s Elizabeth. Fauxcahontas has so many problems throughout the rest of the country, she’d be a blessing. They can’t put enough lipstick on her to make her look good.

bflat879 on June 2, 2014 at 8:10 PM

yes..because thats the obvious answer to everything. blame it on me.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:04 PM

That was actually a joke, reprobate.

But now that I have your attention. Let’s talk about how disgusting you are. Do you think it’s funny a 82ND Airborne Officer being killed looking for Bergdahl?

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Just what we need in the White House: a sexually repressed old biddy.

jbspry on June 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM

I can’t wait for the Cruz v. warren debates.

davidk on June 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Why did you use caps in your name?

Fallon on June 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM

yea..such a failure that the man who campaigned on it was reelected comfortably.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Hope and change has been an unquestionable failure – unless the point was to make rich people richer.

Chuck Schick on June 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Where you been? Youv’e missed some very interesting stuff.

Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

I’m always reading. I don’t always have time to sign in and comment since I started working again.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:14 PM

But now that I have your attention. Let’s talk about how disgusting you are. Do you think it’s funny a 82ND Airborne Officer being killed looking for Bergdahl?

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM

no of course not. and ive never said anything to indicate that i would.

wouldnt this discussion however be better done on one of the many bergdahl related threads and not here?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Why did you use caps in your name?

Fallon on June 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM

my choices were ‘ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch’ or ‘this is your brain on koch’. the former appealed to me more. i certainly wasnt going to use ‘thisisyourbrainonkoch’ and have the name run together.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM

obama: “I’ll see your willie horton and raise you 5 tollybahn.”

davidk on June 2, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Just what we need in the White House: a sexually repressed old biddy.

jbspry on June 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM

You talkin’ hillary or lizzy?

davidk on June 2, 2014 at 8:21 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Why? You thought on the thread I’m talking about it was more important to talk about Pashtun. Are you the only MFer here who can decide what’s suitable off topic material?

I’ll go back to that thread if you want to talk to me about LT Andrews or even Pashtun.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:21 PM

You talkin’ hillary or lizzy?

davidk on June 2, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Yes.

Fallon on June 2, 2014 at 8:22 PM

my choices were ‘ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch’ or ‘this is your brain on koch’. the former appealed to me more. i certainly wasnt going to use ‘thisisyourbrainonkoch’ and have the name run together.
ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM

because caps in the name made it not run together…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Why? You thought on the thread I’m talking about it was more important to talk about Pashtun. Are you the only MFer here who can decide what’s suitable off topic material?

was that really necessary? and it wasnt off topic. it was at least tangentially related to the thread at hand. however none of it really has much to do with warren running for president now does it?

I’ll go back to that thread if you want to talk to me about LT Andrews or even Pashtun.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:21 PM

fine by me.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Warrenhonta/Castro…just no gay, but otherwise a perfectly marxist ticket

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Since Bea Arthur is roasting in helI
V7_Sport on June 2, 2014 at 7:56 PM

really? why?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 7:58 PM

You can ask her. When you get there.

davidk on June 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM

What DaveK said! :-)

V7_Sport on June 2, 2014 at 8:26 PM

I believe we can fight back. I believe we can win.

One wonders against whom she believes we might fight back, within which contest we might find ourselves victorious, and which criteria she finds necessary and sufficient when circumscribing others into a group around herself, thus defining “we.”

Being at first wonderfully reassured that it was possible to both resist the Progressive onslaught and to even overcome it, now I’m just confused by the realization that those responsible for the aggression to begin with imagine themselves as being the victims of aggression.

The barbarian hordes attacking the city walls imagine that the walls are attacking them.

O, Allahpundit, what sandwich might a man eat to deliver himself from this cacophony of cleverness? Upon which bosom might he rest to deliver himself from the endless insanity of attackers declaring themselves victims, the cries of victims being censored as hate speech, the best qualified to speak being silenced, and the least qualified to lead being handed microphones capable of reaching the resting places of each of the four winds?

Woe to us, Allahpundit! Woe to us!

*sips tea*

Axe on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

We have a treasonous half-black CiC.

Now we need a gay one and an Indian one, with a marxist VP. Where are the midgets and transgenders, you rubes?

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM

i certainly wasnt going to use ‘thisisyourbrainonkoch’ and have the name run together.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM

because caps in the name made it not run together…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:22 PM


Um, yeah TIYBOK…
LOL

Fallon on June 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM

I’ll go back to that thread if you want to talk to me about LT Andrews or even Pashtun.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:21 PM

fine by me.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Then get your f@cking ass back over there now.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM

righty45 on June 2, 2014 at 8:10 PM

It wouldn’t require any condescension on Cruz’s part at all. He’d debate rings around the old prof, same way WFB, with nothing more than a Yale undergraduate degree, used to take Yale profs apart.

de rigueur on June 2, 2014 at 8:31 PM

my choices were ‘ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch’ or ‘this is your brain on koch’. the former appealed to me more. i certainly wasnt going to use ‘thisisyourbrainonkoch’ and have the name run together.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM

You could have just went with ‘IlovetheKoch’ and saved the confusion.

BigWyo on June 2, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Then get your f@cking ass back over there now.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM

I’ll help.

The families who live with that empty space in their lives that used to be their son, their brother, their uncle, and their hero, have that rotting piece of garbage who decided his commitment to his fellow soldiers was not greater than his commitment to himself. When you talk about about that leftist babel about service to America, remember when this…..American got the chance, he thought of nothing but himself.

Btw hawkdriver, thank you for your service.

itsspideyman on June 2, 2014 at 8:34 PM

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Good then I am thinking you are, (have), been observing many of the same strange behaviors with some of our posters I have. We will have to share notes. Mine have become quite lengthy.

Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 8:38 PM

She’s blowing smoke signals…

SouthernGent on June 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

itsspideyman on June 2, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Talk at work today was all about the cost of Bergdahl’s nature walk. What it cost in human life, operational assets and intelligence lost.

The rank and file US Army did not want him back. Too much happened in RC East after he defected to ignore.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

You talkin’ hillary or lizzy?

davidk on June 2, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Really, at this point, what difference does it make?

jpmn on June 2, 2014 at 8:40 PM

changer1701 on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Always have been, always will be, Comrade.

Libby Freordie must be having an orgasm right now.

So does Lizzy Fauxchahontas have a little red book yet? Re-indoctrination camps, here we come.

Chuck Ef on June 2, 2014 at 8:47 PM

She can’t go back on her word and be an Indian giver.

terryannonline on June 2, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Then get your f@cking ass back over there now.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM

sorry. i had to make a couple calls for scheduling stuff for tomorrow but im over there now.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:48 PM

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM

sorry. i had to make a couple calls for scheduling stuff for tomorrow but im over there now.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Great. I left a comment for you. Otherwise, FO.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

The has to be an accounting of his actions and the damage he’s done. There’s sufficient evidence to charge him with compromising soldiers in action. I think “aiding and abetting” is on the table.

If the Army didn’t want him back, they should have left him there, “forgetting” how to speak English.

itsspideyman on June 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

There’s only one place Elizabeth Warren can win an election, Massachusetts. If there is one nominee I’d rather see than Hillary, it’s Elizabeth. Fauxcahontas has so many problems throughout the rest of the country, she’d be a blessing. They can’t put enough lipstick on her to make her look good.

bflat879 on June 2, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Yeah, but they can put a Head dress on her!

She’ll dance around like the late, great Chief Jay Strongbow!!

ToddPA on June 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

itsspideyman on June 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Following his defection, IED countermeasures became markedly less effective. Mark my word here tonight. “That’s” what he has to answer for.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Great. I left a comment for you. Otherwise, FO.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

you have an alarmingly short fuse. i never made a joke out of the death of a single soldier, but you go ahead and see what you want to.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

As bad as the myriad of GOP “contenders” may appear, this lying sack of a hag is by far the worst. Truly a sub-human life form
Please just shaddup and go away

Pelosi Schmelosi on June 2, 2014 at 9:02 PM

“ThisIsYourBrainOnCrotch” seems much more appropriate

Pelosi Schmelosi on June 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

you have an alarmingly short fuse. i never made a joke out of the death of a single soldier, but you go ahead and see what you want to.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

When it comes to a fellow 82ND Trooper you’re God Damned right I do. F@ck every comment you leave on Hot Air. Every time you post it’s a joke. You’re a joke.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

When it comes to a fellow 82ND Trooper you’re God Damned right I do. F@ck every comment you leave on Hot Air. Every time you post it’s a joke. You’re a joke.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

i never said anything to disrespect you, your service, the service of those deceased soldiers or their families. i regret their losses just as much as you do. chill out dude.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

chill out dude.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

No. I read a lot of comments about who you really are. A lot of folks say you’re really one of the old timers spoofing about how an actual liberal comments here. If that’s the case, it’s not playing well. Every time I read one of your comments it’s seldom funny and nearly always pisses off other readers here. The Andrew’s parents thread was just ridiculous.

God I pray you’re really a liberal.

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:25 PM

When she runs and nobody you’ve ever met or talked to or knows someone who voted for her but she wins, will people believe the national election is rigged?
Because it is.

Tard on June 2, 2014 at 9:27 PM

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Thank you. Could not have said it better.

Barred on June 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM

Nobody with a half a brain wants Elizabeth Warren as a national candidate. Certainly not on the left, that is.

I’d beg her to be the candidate. There is nothing I would like better. It would be the greatest landside in generations.

This woman is nothing but a screwup waiting to happen. Her strategy in Massachusetts was “not to speak”. Because when she opens her mouth, stupid comes out. She may be able to give a decent soundbite – and I was going to say speech, but I seriously doubt she has it in her to give say 20-30 solid soundbites cobble together into a speech that would inspire anyone but dyed in the wool socialists, but when it comes time to actually interact with an opponent ?

Done. She underperformed Obama in Massachusetts by 15 points. In Massachusetts with the Republican nominee a former governor in that same state.

Nationally, Obama bettered his margin in blue Massachusetts by 4 in New York, and not much in other places.

The idea that this loser could actually win anywhere besides Massachusetts is a flat out joke.

deadrody on June 2, 2014 at 9:32 PM

you have an alarmingly short fuse. i never made a joke out of the death of a single soldier, but you go ahead and see what you want to. ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

I like the men on the wall protecting me to have “alarmingly” short fuses.

Thank you Hawkdriver. That fool cost lives.

wolly4321 on June 2, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Awesome, our first Native American president.

John the Libertarian on June 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Called this one last year on this site. The progs know that with Goebbels-like control of the media they can run anyone they want now and win . Obastard proved that. Black is white and bad is good now that we have fallen through the looking glass.

If she runs she will win.

This country is finished.

DeweyWins on June 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

hawkdriver on June 2, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Thanks buddy.

itsspideyman on June 2, 2014 at 10:24 PM

Is it my monitor or has Lizzie gone…Blonde???????? from silver….

Xango Annie on June 3, 2014 at 12:06 AM

How well is she really gonna play outside of MA, NY, CA?

Texas Zombie on June 3, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Let’s face it: Warren vs. Cruz is the election partisans want, Clinton vs. Bush is the election partisans will get. Alas.

Let’s face it: You’re both wrong.

Cruz doesn’t have a chance in hell of getting the nom, and Hill and Bush aren’t running at all.

Warren would get the nom in a walk, if she ran. An absolute lock. HISTORIC all over again. She would lose the general though.

As long as Republicans don’t put up a socon or another Bush.

Moesart on June 3, 2014 at 12:43 AM

The idea that ANYONE takes Faux-cahontas seriously as a candidate for ANYTHING, let alone President of the United States, speaks volumes about our disintegration as a functional society and government.

The modern United States resembles the doddering Roman Empire that finally collapsed, not with a bang, but a whimper.

I truly feel sorry for future generations. And we should be ashamed that we’re bequeathing them a country that surrendered its freedom and prosperity to the lazy, the intellectually shallow, the uninformed, and the entitled.

And we should be ashamed of the corrupt K-street Chamber of Commerce Republicans we put in Congress to fight against it, too.

DRayRaven on June 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM

When she runs and nobody you’ve ever met or talked to or knows someone who voted for her but she wins, will people believe the national election is rigged?
Because it is.

Tard on June 2, 2014 at 9:27 PM

I know lots of people that voted for her. Mainly because it was time for a woman Senator for MA.

I’ve been saying for years that the next dem run will be Hill, MO or Lizzy. I’ll still put my money on MO as the next dem choice. She has at least four things going for her. She is black, she is woman, she is a Marxist and her greatest asset is that she has BO. This country has a hard on for an imperial presidency and electing MO will help fulfill that wet dream.

Dr. Frank Enstine on June 3, 2014 at 6:32 AM

My civics teacher told the class there were only 2 people that knew for sure they had NO Indian blood and NO black blood in their veins: the foreign exchange student from Austria and me, the DP immigrant. . . so there you go. She could be Indian despite that blonde hair.

Mariadee on June 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM

If Warren is thinking about running for POTUS she better get herself out in the rest of the world. I have Democratic family/friends in the “world beyond the Northeast corridor” and they haven’t heard of her. Now of course they are dems and don’t follow politics /s

katiejane on June 3, 2014 at 8:41 AM

If something would cause Hillary not to run, don’t anyone be so sure that she would not be the next POTUS.

Carnac on June 3, 2014 at 9:05 AM

I’ll still put my money on MO as the next dem choice.

Dr. Frank Enstine on June 3, 2014 at 6:32 AM

Shuddder. However, not buying it.

She is not a dues payer, especially when dues are not necessary. She already has everything she wants.

Barack goes on the perpetual speech tour. Michelle goes on perpetual vacation.

Carnac on June 3, 2014 at 9:10 AM

LOL. That’s a Twofer. 1 Our first woman president. 2 Our first “American Indian” (in her own mind) president. President Princess yellow Stream.

MaiDee on June 3, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Idiocracy. It’s coming.

Ward Cleaver on June 3, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Since Bea Arthur is roasting in helI

V7_Sport on June 2, 2014 at 7:56 PM

really? why?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on June 2, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Because of this, of course:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/16/nude-bea-arthur-painting-by-john-currin-sells-christies-auction_n_3284898.html

Hucklebuck on June 3, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Let’s face it: Warren vs. Cruz is the election partisans want, Clinton vs. Bush is the election partisans will get. Alas.

What about Warren vs. Cruz?

Thin-skin Lizzie with the high cheekbones would make a great candidate. Similar to other Presidential candidates from Massachusetts, such as Michael Dukakis, John Kerry, and Mitt Romney, she will lose.

Steve Z on June 3, 2014 at 11:22 AM

Let’s face it: Warren vs. Cruz is the election partisans want, Clinton vs. Bush is the election partisans will get. Alas.

Is this a joke?

What makes Jeb Bush, Bush King III, think that he is qualified to receive GOP’s nomination? He is such an idiot.

What makes Jeb Bush think that he can buy our votes, only because he has lots and lots of money?

sohumm on June 3, 2014 at 3:15 PM

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