Labor unions none too happy with the Obama administration’s new emissions regulations

posted at 8:01 pm on June 2, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

The Obama administration knew that it wasn’t going to get applause from all of its fellow Democrats on the regulations released by the Environmental Protection Agency this morning — and not only did officials not expect any, they even gave Congressional Democrats their implicit blessing on the issue. Via Reuters:

Democrats in Republican-leaning states have a simple strategy for dealing with President Barack Obama’s upcoming power plant restrictions before the mid-term elections: Fight them, with the White House’s blessing.

The new rules, popular with the Democratic Party’s base, are one of Obama’s highest domestic priorities for his second term. …

So, the White House is turning a blind eye to attacks from within the party, despite the importance of the regulations to Obama’s agenda and post-presidential legacy.

“We understand that there are going to be Democrats in these states that oppose it and are perfectly prepared that that’s going to happen,” one White House official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

“We don’t agree, but we don’t have a problem with it.”

The White House’s apparent political nonchalance about the divisive regulations don’t make them any more welcome for the not-so-merry band of vulnerable Congressional Democrats, several of whom tried to convince the EPA to delay them for a few more cltuch months — and less welcome still, I imagine, are the monetary losses they might sustain from some of their biggest traditional campaign donors. Via the WFB:

United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) president Cecil Roberts blasted the proposal, saying it would leave tens of thousands of the union’s members unemployed.

“The proposed rule … will lead to long-term and irreversible job losses for thousands of coal miners, electrical workers, utility workers, boilermakers, railroad workers and others without achieving any significant reduction of global greenhouse gas emissions,” Roberts said in a statement.

According to a UMWA analysis, Roberts said, the rule will cause 75,000 job losses in the coal sector by 2020, rising to 152,000 by 2035.

“When a U.S. government economic multiplier used to calculate the impact of job losses is applied to the entire economy, we estimate that the total impact will be about 485,000 permanent jobs lost,” Roberts said. …

The regulations also drew fire on Monday from the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW), which warned they “focus solely on the environmental aspect of public policy at the expense of balancing our nation’s economic and energy needs.”

Perhaps the White House is hoping that the major demonstration of Climate Change Seriousness they can now offer to the environmentalist lobby will make the juice worth the squeeze, and perhaps individual Democrats are hoping that they can demonstrate enough anti-Obama/regulations sentiments that they’ll still get their donations from labor unions, but it’s no wonder these guys are upset. As the EPA states in their own language, the goal of these regulations is to completely do away with at least a handful of the country’s coal-fired power plants — which means a forced and accelerated market transition that will definitely result in job losses.

Here’s a key paragraph from the agency’s regulatory analysis released Monday alongside the rule: “Relative to the base case, about 30 to 49 GW of coal-fired capacity is projected to be uneconomic to maintain (about 12 percent to 19 percent of all coal-fired capacity projected to be in service in the base case) by 2020 under the range of scenarios analyzed.”

And here’s a key forecast in the rule itself: “EPA projects coal production for use by the power sector, a large component of total coal production, will decline by roughly 25 to 27 percent in 2020 from base case levels. The use of coal by the power sector will decrease roughly 30 to 32 percent in 2030.”


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The pain goes all around…

sorrowen on June 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Reap the whirlwind, baby.

thebrokenrattle on June 2, 2014 at 8:04 PM

He doesn’t need them any more. Under the bus they go.

rbj on June 2, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Tough t!tty said the kitty. ‘The milk is all gone!’

You reap what you sow, morons.

Resist We Much on June 2, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Stuff it. You helped to get him elected, twice.

Embrace the suck.

Meople on June 2, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Republicans should have a simple strategy, refuse to fight. It’s simple, while we don’t have the power, there is no sense in House Republicans fighting and giving the Democrats a campaign issue while everything goes on hold. Just let people know they’re going to let the rules go into effect because they can’t fight without the power to fight, and then tell the public, if you lose your job, because of these regulations, vote Republican. If you’re electricity goes up, because of these regulations, vote Republican. If you work for a coal company, and you lose your job, because of these regulations, vote Republican.

bflat879 on June 2, 2014 at 8:07 PM

So?

lorien1973 on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Oh, one more thing, if Obama delays these, until after the election, vote Republican because you know you’re going to get hurt.

bflat879 on June 2, 2014 at 8:08 PM

bflat879 on June 2, 2014 at 8:07 PM

There is plenty, PLENTY the GOP COULD do, had they NOT:

Given up the power of the purse last year to Talibama. They gave it up willingly, with no fight whatsoever.

Refused to even discuss the “I” word. Yes they don’t have the numbers in the Senate. What better motivator for (R) voters than to say, if you give us the Senate we’ll IMPEACH THE SOB?

Sure would be good motivation for me. And I’m on the fence if I’ll even vote for the GOP at all due to their threats of Amnesty.

Alas, the GOP is sackless. Therefore they will do nothing but bend over and allow Talibama to be America’s first Dictator.

Meople on June 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Good. Good! Let the butthurt flow through you! Time to be patriotic. Time to step up to the plate. Time to have some skin in the game.

Judge_Dredd on June 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM

“When a U.S. government economic multiplier used to calculate the impact of job losses is applied to the entire economy, we estimate that the total impact will be about 485,000 permanent jobs lost,”

It doesn’t look to me like this counts manufacturing shipped overseas due to higher energy costs. That will make this look like amateur hour and will be permanent in the long run.

CW20 on June 2, 2014 at 8:14 PM

And all to no benefit, per their own words. This country has collectively gone insane.

tngmv on June 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM

The best case scenario? COALS SHUTS DOWN IMMEDIATELY and let’s the supply dry up and put people out of work NOW. Make it hurt….through november… Hot summer months with A/C’s running…with little power…WE NEED COAL.

originalpechanga on June 2, 2014 at 8:17 PM

EPA to delay them for a few more cltuch months

Huh?

ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:17 PM

He doesn’t need them any more. Under the bus they go.

rbj on June 2, 2014 at 8:06 PM

You know what this country needs? A Labor Party.

Grammar Nazi on June 2, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Dems don’t need these unions. The Dems are going with greens, who have the dough, and the public-employee unions who stand to gain from unionizing all the new government workers.

BuckeyeSam on June 2, 2014 at 8:19 PM

United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) president Cecil Roberts blasted the proposal, saying it would leave tens of thousands of the union’s members unemployed.

Someone, please call this loser idiot a WAAAAAAAHmbulance….

ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:19 PM

You know what this country needs? A Labor Party.

Grammar Nazi on June 2, 2014 at 8:17 PM

No we don’t. You can join the Communist party of the USA if you’d like.

Meople on June 2, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Obama did say he wanted to bankrup the coal industry.

No one should be surprised by this.

mrscullen on June 2, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6h

WV Attorney General Patrick Morrisey vows to take all legal actions against the EPA rule. Says the 645 pg rule as “legal defects.”

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6h

Dem WV Gov Earl Ray Tomblin, slams new EPA plan for power plant emissions. Says it will cost jobs and send electricity rates soaring.

canopfor on June 2, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6h

As for critics who say new pollution limits will “kill jobs” or “crush the economy,” Pres Obama says those claims will be “debunked.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6h

POTUS says new emission limits on power plants will help us leave our children “a safer, more stable world.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6h

“Climate change is real,” says Pres Obama in conference call with public health groups. Says climate change has impacts “as we speak.”

canopfor on June 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

tried to convince the EPA to delay them for a few more cltuch months

You meant “clutch,” yes, Erika?

Still sorry to see you go :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Boehner says Hopeys is Boinking Bonkers, er, “NUTS”!!!

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 8h

Boehner says EPA plan would cause electricity rates to skyrocket. Says POTUS “condemning” Americans to “higher bills and lower incomes.”

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 8h

“The president’s plan is nuts, there’s really no more succinct way to describe it,” says @SpeakerBoehner of EPA emissions plan.

canopfor on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

…so who they going to vote for?

KOOLAID2 on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

McConnell Weighs In:

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 10h

McConnell calls the EPA plan “an end-run around Congress” that highlights Pres Obama’s “contempt for the wishes of the public.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 10h

From @McConnellPress Senate Minority Leader McConnell: EPA Overreach ‘a dagger in the heart of the American middle class.’

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 10h

McCarthy says emissions proposal will result in lower medical bills, require fewer trips to emergency room – especially for kids w/ asthma.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 10h

Climate change is “super-charging risks,” says @GinaEPA in announcing plan to slash carbon emissions from power plants.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 10h

.@epa says its plan “will protect public health, move the US toward a cleaner environment and fight climate change…”

canopfor on June 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM

EPA to delay them for a few more cltuch months

Huh?

ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:17 PM

You meant “clutch,” yes, Erika?

Still sorry to see you go :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Get in line…

ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM

United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) president Cecil Roberts blasted the proposal, saying it would leave tens of thousands of the union’s members unemployed.

Guess the crocodile won’t be eating you and your cronies last after all, eh, rube?

Bruno Strozek on June 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM

As for critics who say new pollution limits will “kill jobs” or “crush the economy,” Pres Obama says those claims will be “debunked.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6h

Obama is delusional.

mrscullen on June 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Get in line…
ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Yes, my Lady…

[goes to the rear of the line...slips Lady a double Whatyoudrinkin' as I go by...] ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Sleep with the dogs and you wind up with fleas. Take a big bite unions and enjoy.

jaywemm on June 2, 2014 at 8:30 PM

…so who they going to vote for?

KOOLAID2 on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

They have a couple of choices, KA… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Boehner says Hopeys is Boinking Bonkers, er, “NUTS”!!!

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 8h

Boehner says EPA plan would cause electricity rates to skyrocket. Says POTUS “condemning” Americans to “higher bills and lower incomes.”

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 8h

“The president’s plan is nuts, there’s really no more succinct way to describe it,” says @SpeakerBoehner of EPA emissions plan.

canopfor on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

What are you going to do about it, Boehner?

How about withholding funding for the EPA? Nope, can’t do that since you gave up that power.

How about Passing Amnesty? I’m sure that’ll make EVERYTHING better huh, Boehnhead?

Meople on June 2, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 11h

The @EPA posts its carbon emission reduction proposal for power plants. http://www2.epa.gov/carbon-pollution-standards/clean-power-plan-proposed-rule
===================

Clean Power Plan Proposed Rule

On June 2, 2014, EPA proposed a commonsense plan to cut carbon pollution from power plants. States, cities and businesses across the country are already taking action to address the risks of climate change. EPA’s proposal builds on those actions and is flexible – reflecting that different states have a different mix of sources and opportunities, and reflecting the important role of states as full partners with the federal government in cutting pollution. This proposal will maintain an affordable, reliable energy system, while cutting pollution and protecting our health and environment now and for future generations.
===============================================

Press release

You will need Adobe Reader to view some of the files on this page. See EPA’s About PDF page to learn more.

Clean Power Plan Proposed Rule – June 2, 2014 (PDF)(645 pp, 3 MB)
Regulatory Impact Analysis: Clean Power Plan Proposed Rule (PDF)(376 pp, 5 MB)
EPA Fact Sheet: Overview of the Clean Power Plan – Cutting Carbon Pollution from Power Plants (PDF)(1 pg, 294 K)
EPA Fact Sheet: Why We Need a Cleaner, More Efficient Power Sector (PDF)(3 pp, 397 K)
EPA Fact Sheet: By the Numbers – Cutting Carbon Pollution from Power Plants (PDF)(2 pp, 130 K)
EPA Fact Sheet: Flexible Approach to Cutting Carbon Pollution (PDF)(3 pp, 251 K)
EPA Fact Sheet: National Framework for States – Setting State Goals to Cut Carbon Pollution (PDF)(3 pp, 485 K)
EPA Fact Sheet: The Role of States – States Decide How They Will Cut Carbon Pollution (PDF)(2 pp, 324 K)

http://www2.epa.gov/carbon-pollution-standards/clean-power-plan-proposed-rule

645 Page Mother F***er:

http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2014-05/documents/20140602proposal-cleanpowerplan.pdf

canopfor on June 2, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Sleep with the dogs and you wind up with fleas. Take a big bite unions and enjoy.

jaywemm on June 2, 2014 at 8:30 PM

And I hope those fleas came from plague rats.

Judge_Dredd on June 2, 2014 at 8:33 PM

And I hope those fleas came from plague rats.
Judge_Dredd on June 2, 2014 at 8:33 PM

What? No chiggers?? o_O

That should be fixed pronto…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 11h

Pres Obama will discuss greenhouse gas emissions in a conference call today with public health groups. Press can dial-in to listen.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 12h

The 30% reduction in power plant emissions is pegged to a 2005 baseline – previously cited in WH goal to reduce emissions by 17% in 2020.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 12h

The @EPA today announces controversial plan to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from power plants by 30% by 2030.

canopfor on June 2, 2014 at 8:36 PM

What? No chiggers?? o_O

That should be fixed pronto…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Do we even have chiggers in Florida?

Judge_Dredd on June 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM

And before some lefty takes o-fense, a chigger is an insect

“According to most dictionaries, the several species of Trombiculidae that bite their host in their larval stage and cause “intense irritation”[5] or “a wheal, usually with severe itching and dermatitis,”[6][7] are called chiggers.[8] The scientific definition seemingly includes many more, but not all species of Trombiculidae.”

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Judge_Dredd on June 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM

You betcha! Good reason for all FL buoys and gurls to keep a bottle each of isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and clear nail polish on hand… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I’m not sensing a lot of love in here.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on June 2, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Labor unhappy with Progressives they put into office and the policies they impose on the country?
TFB!

Another Drew on June 2, 2014 at 8:42 PM

[goes to the rear of the line...slips Lady a double Whatyoudrinkin' as I go by...] ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Whiskey, neat. ;)

Catch you on QoTD, little one. ;)

ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Reap the consequences.

(for both Obama and union boss thugs.)

Can they please shoot each other?

22044 on June 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Still sorry to see you go :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

…Newtie…(where did you read that?)I like her!

KOOLAID2 on June 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Boehner says Hopeys is Boinking Bonkers, er, “NUTS”!!!

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 8h

Boehner says EPA plan would cause electricity rates to skyrocket. Says POTUS “condemning” Americans to “higher bills and lower incomes.”

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 8h

“The president’s plan is nuts, there’s really no more succinct way to describe it,” says @SpeakerBoehner of EPA emissions plan.

The fact that Boehnhead is an Obama Republican means that any statements he makes at odds with Obama is either to score political points with one group or another, or a complete lie.

He has no problems with Obama or any of his policies. If he did, he wouldn’t have helped to enable Obama as our first American Dictator.

Meople on June 2, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:35 PM

UGH. Chiggers. Ate me up at 5th grade field day…pests to be treated with DEETS….

ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:44 PM

You betcha! Good reason for all FL buoys and gurls to keep a bottle each of isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and clear nail polish on hand… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Never got any here. Sand fleas is about it.

Judge_Dredd on June 2, 2014 at 8:44 PM

One thing we can be sure these new emissions regulations is not about is global warming because they are shipping all the coal over to China to burn. My bet is that the supposedly “American” oligarchy has invested in China and other foreign countries and are now using the US government to increase the value of their foreign investments at the expense of the US and its citizens. It’s basically the same thing as if corrupt politicians and their cronies buy a bunch of junk assets and then use taxpayer dollars and government power to artificially increase the value of their assets.

FloatingRock on June 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM

So suddenly unions are starting to wake up? And I suppose they expect sympathy?

GarandFan on June 2, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Whiskey, neat. ;)
Catch you on QoTD, little one. ;)
ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Will do, Lady!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:47 PM

As for critics who say new pollution limits will “kill jobs” or “crush the economy,” Pres Obama says those claims will be “debunked.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6h

Sort of like those claims that increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour in SEATAC and in Seattle, writ large, won’t have a negative impact on jobs and the economy???

Surprise! Leftist minimum wage policy backfires in Seattle suburb

Resist We Much on June 2, 2014 at 8:47 PM

You guys are all aware that we’re shipping huge quantities of US coal to China, right? There are several trains, I’ve read some of them up to two miles long, that move the coal from back east to the west coast each and every night and then a bunch of empty cars that head back east during the day. There are so many trains and they are so long that they don’t all go through one set of tracks but are spread out all over the place. The huge trains that I see/hear go by my house each day/night are only a small portion of them.

This has nothing to do with emissions, it has everything to do with power, greed and corruption.

FloatingRock on June 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

…Newtie…(where did you read that?)I like her!
KOOLAID2 on June 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM

The news was broken when you were elsewhere, KA:

Unfortunately, this change comes as we prepare to say goodbye to our terrific associate editor Erika Johnsen. Erika, who has been a great friend to everyone on the Hot Air/Townhall team for the last several years, has decided to pursue an education in environmental law on a full scholarship, in order to actively participate in the fight that she has been waging from her platform here at Hot Air.

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

O/T: LONGMIRE!!!! @ 10 EDT on A&E

Be there or be SQUARE!!!

ladyingray on June 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Never got any here. Sand fleas is about it.
Judge_Dredd on June 2, 2014 at 8:44 PM

You *scratch* so lucky *itch* …

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

This has nothing to do with emissions, it has everything to do with power, greed and corruption.

FloatingRock on June 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Nothing Talibama and his Regime does is for the reasons they state. Never has been.

They haven’t told the truth about a single thing since day one occupying the White House.

Meople on June 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

…thanks Newtie!…glad to hear it was her choice…(I hope!)

KOOLAID2 on June 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM

What are you going to do about it, Boehner?

Meople

He’s going to stick it to Obama good and give him amnesty. That’ll teach him a lesson.

xblade on June 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Obama & the Dems don’t care anymore. The vehicle that was the Union Vote has run out of gas for the Dems. They are fully expecting a Union Membership, not Leadership, revolt where the Membership goes full “Reagan Democrat” in 2014 & BEYOND in an effort to keep these guys from Killing the Goose that Lays the Golden Eggs (The US Economy). They have been quietly saying goodbye since they got burned on Healthcare and the Dems are fine with that, comprendo, amigos?

famous amos on June 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM

KOOLAID2 on June 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM

YVW*, KA!

*You’re Very Welcome ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on June 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM

It doesn’t look to me like this counts manufacturing shipped overseas due to higher energy costs. That will make this look like amateur hour and will be permanent in the long run.

CW20 on June 2, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Yep. Higher energy costs will send manufacturing jobs to China, which will then buy our coal to fuel the coal fired plants they are continually building.

Smart Obama.

He causes Democrats problems for the elections, then send jobs, manufacturing and coal overseas, hurting the environment.

This man is a genius, I tell ya.

MichaelGabriel on June 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Labor unions none too happy with the Obama administration’s new emissions regulations

These labor union bosses still think that it’s the 1970s and they can be the puppet masters if they supply enough votes and moola.

They have been completely pwned by this new iteration of the Socialist Crime Syndicate…out jackaled by master jackals.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 2, 2014 at 9:21 PM

…so who they going to vote for?

KOOLAID2 on June 2, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Golden opportunity for Hillary to present herself as the Anti-Obama Democrat. And with that, the unions will be back in lockstep in no time.

Myron Falwell on June 2, 2014 at 9:23 PM

“While you are under there, see any leaks?”

— Obama to anyone who has ever trusted him

Tard on June 2, 2014 at 9:29 PM

I think ticks would be a better description.

Tinker on June 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

…sigh.

So Erika leaves and what, we get more jazz?

Frkin wonderful. More articles to not read.

Diluculo on June 2, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Big winners, -Canadian utility companies that export power into the Northeast USA.

slickwillie2001 on June 2, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Anybody who believes the theater of Democrats opposing Obama’s policies and bases a vote on that belief will truly get the government they deserve. Stupidity has a price.

Haiku Guy on June 3, 2014 at 7:51 AM

The union’s are slowly beginning to realize they are nothing but a prophylactic for Obama, and he’s already climaxed.

BobMbx on June 3, 2014 at 9:37 AM

The unions are so upset they told their members to only go vote twice instead three times for Democrats in the next election.

albill on June 3, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Few things are as revealing as the fact that UMWA remains one of the top DNC donors – and the recent regulations will not change that.

If its member shave any further doubts about what their national stands for, this should put paid to that.

Hucklebuck on June 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Be wonderful if the Obamao Regime’s policies wind up cracking the Dimbulbcrat donot base.

PJ Emeritus on June 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM

donot = donor

PJ Emeritus on June 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Do we even have chiggers in Florida?

Judge_Dredd on June 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM

We breed them by the $#!†-ton here in Bama. Can’t imagine Florida without them, at least inland.

Closet Optimist on June 3, 2014 at 12:14 PM