Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on June 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

According to a senior Defense official, the handover occurred at approximately 10:30 am Eastern time Saturday along the eastern Afghanistan border with Pakistan, and took place quickly without incident, peacefully and without violence. Berghdal was in the custody of about 18 Taliban fighters and was ushered onto a waiting helicopter by U.S. special operations forces. Once aboard, Berghdal wrote on a paper plate “SF?,” asking over the loud aircraft engines whether he was being rescued by special forces operators. The official said the troops replied loudly “yes, we’ve been looking for you for a long time.” Berghdal then broke down crying…

The transfer was not directly negotiated with the Taliban, but through the Amir of Qatar, officials said, whose help is being called “instrumental” to the agreement. Talks to bring about Berghdal’s release resumed only in the last several weeks, after the Taliban showed interest in resuming dialogue regarding Berghdal and its prisoners being held at Guantanamo. Obama called the Amir Tuesday to confirm the transfers, and the Qataris facilitated the handing over of Bergdahl…

“I am eager to learn what precise steps are being taken to ensure that these vicious and violent Taliban extremists never return to the fight against the United States and our partners or engage in any activities that can threaten the prospects for peace and security in Afghanistan,” added [John] McCain.

***

The Taliban has long sought freedom for the “Gitmo Five,” all of whom are experienced jihadists and helped run the Taliban’s operations in pre-9/11 Afghanistan. They served in various military and intelligence roles.

All five of the detainees were deemed “high” risks to the US and its allies by Joint Task Force Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO). Two of the five, according to files prepared at Guantanamo, have been wanted by the UN for war crimes.

One of them served as a key intermediary between the Iranian regime and the Taliban after 9/11. During meetings between these two former foes, the Iranians pledged to assist the Taliban in its war against the US…

A key goal of those talks is to get the Taliban to renounce al Qaeda, something Mullah Omar’s group has declined to do. It is difficult to see how the prisoner swap helps to achieve that goal. All five of the now ex-Gitmo detainees were closely allied with al Qaeda prior to their detention. And Bergdahl was initially captured by members of the Haqqani Network, which remains one of al Qaeda’s strongest allies to this day.

***

Top Republicans on the Senate and House armed services committees went so far as to accuse President Obama of having broken the law, which requires the administration to notify Congress before any transfers from Guantanamo are carried out…

The law requires the defense secretary to notify relevant congressional committees at least 30 days before making any transfers of prisoners, to explain the reason and to provide assurances that those released would not be in a position to reengage in activities that could threaten the United States or its interests…

A senior administration official, agreeing to speak on the condition of anonymity to explain the timing of the congressional notification, acknowledged that the law was not followed. When he signed the law last year, Obama issued a signing statement contending that the notification requirement was an unconstitutional infringement on his powers as commander in chief and that he therefore could override it.

“Due to a near-term opportunity to save Sergeant Bergdahl’s life, we moved as quickly as possible,” the official said. “The administration determined that given these unique and exigent circumstances, such a transfer should go forward notwithstanding the notice requirement.”

***

“This is the only issue we’ve discussed with the Taliban in recent months,” said one senior Obama administration official involved in the talks. “We do hope that having succeeded in this narrow but important step, it will create the possibility of expanding the dialogue to other issues. But we don’t have any promises to that effect.”

But word of renewed, secret negotiations with the Taliban brought immediate criticism from some lawmakers, including Representative Mike Rogers of Michigan, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. “I have little confidence in the security assurances regarding the movement and activities of the now-released Taliban leaders, and I have even less confidence in this administration’s willingness to ensure they are enforced,” he said. “I believe this decision will threaten the lives of American soldiers for years to come.”

A Western official in Kabul said the Afghan government was not told ahead of time that the Taliban were going to hand over Sergeant Bergdahl or that the release of prisoners from Guantánamo Bay was proceeding, though the Afghans were broadly aware that the talks had been rekindled. American officials feared leaks could scuttle the deal.

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I do not agree, as some Republicans are already arguing, that these individuals should not have been released. In my view, the U.S. would not be able to hold them forever. Indeed, it is likely that the U.S. would be required, as a matter of international law, to release them shortly after the end of 2014, when U.S. combat operations cease in Afghanistan. The Administration appears to have reached a defensible, hold-your-nose compromise by arranging, in exchange for the release of Sergeant Bergdahl, for the individuals to be held in Qatar for a year before they return to Afghanistan.

The backgrounds of these Taliban leaders does underscore, however, that the detainees in Guantanamo were not all “innocent” people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, a narrative that has been urged by many critics of Guantanamo, especially in Europe.

Moreover, the Taliban leaders’ backgrounds demonstrate that it would have been legally difficult, if not impossible, to prosecute them in federal courts — as many human rights groups have urged — because U.S. criminal statutes did not apply to their activities in Afghanistan and because the U.S. military had not collected evidence about them that would have been admissible in federal court. And, if the Taliban had actually been treated as POWs under the Geneva Conventions (for which there has always been a good argument), they would have had to be prosecuted in a military court, not a civilian court, pursuant to Article 102 of the Third Geneva Convention.

***

On Obama’s side, the argument is that the statute is unconstitutional, a congressional encroachment on presidential power. There’s no way to undo the exchange, and acting in secrecy, without informing Congress, is an exercise of the very power that the President says the statute violates. Taking this action embodies an argument that this power does and should rest with the President. Is there anything that can be done now to press the opposing argument? We can criticize the President, as we always already do. The only other alternative I see is to impeach the President.

Go ahead. He’s daring you. Perhaps part of his motivation for the prisoner trade was a predicted political boost as the President’s opponents are distracted into seeming to complain about the return of a hero and tripping all over themselves as they posture about impeachment.

***

But for the young soldier – 23 when he became a prisoner of war, now 28 – those debriefings also will include difficult questions about how and why he happened to be in a position where he fell into the hands of Taliban fighters.

There have been no reports that he was captured during direct combat, that the “fog of war” had put him involuntarily in a vulnerable location.

At this point in the developing narrative, Sgt. Bergdahl seems to have grown disillusioned with the mission, bitter about the Army and especially higher ranking enlisted men and officers, and simply walked off – gone “outside the wire” or protective base limits – and disappeared.

That could indicate that he had gone AWOL (Absence Without Leave), also referred to as “Unauthorized Absence” (UA), which could bring charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)…

“The US army is the biggest joke the world has to laugh at,” he wrote from Afghanistan. “It is the army of liars, backstabbers, fools, and bullies. The few good SGTs are getting out as soon as they can, and they are telling us privates to do the same.”

***

Within an hour of the announcement that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was handed over to U.S. special forces by the Taliban Saturday evening, Army Times’ Facebook page lit up with hundreds of comments reacting to the news…

“He is a dirtbag that now should spend the next 20yrs+ in Leavenworth … his fellow soldiers were affected by his actions, he is a sympathizer and deserves to be tried for desertion,” said Kirouac, whose Facebook profile identifies him as a company commander at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

Many others felt no matter the circumstances, the military has a duty not to leave any of its members behind.

“My opinion, we never should leave our own [with] the enemy [and] if he needs to be punished, that should be left up to his former chain of command to ensure it happens!!!!” said Tom Robinson, whose Facebook profile identifies him as a veterans counselor for New York State.

***

I say the following fully respecting the fact that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl*and his family/loved ones might have an extremely understandably different opinion on the situation:

1. The people we exchanged for Sgt. Bergdahl will end up running terrorist operations in Afghanistan if we’re lucky, and Afghanistan and abroad if we are not. And they will likely be doing it considerably sooner than a year from now.

2. The Taliban will step up their kidnapping campaigns, because from their point of view said campaigns have been proven to work.

3. Democratic, liberal, and progressive partisans will freak if you point out either #1 or #2 to them. That particularly smarmy freaking that the more obnoxious examples do when they think that they’ve got the moral drop on you.

***

***

“What we did was ensure that, as always, the United States doesn’t leave a man or a woman on the battlefield,” Rice said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“If we got into a situation where we said, ‘Because of who has captured an American soldier on the battlefield we will leave that person behind,’ we would be in a whole new ear for the safety of our personnel and for the nature of our commitment to our men and women in uniform,” she continued. “Because it was the Taliban that had him did not mean that we had any less of an obligation to bring him back.”


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Ratso!

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM

ME!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Hot and humid.

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Who didn’t see this coming?

Afghans say Taliban prisoners freed by U.S. will rejoin battle

http://news.yahoo.com/afghans-taliban-prisoners-freed-u-rejoin-battle-145123619.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons

idesign on June 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Cary Grant on TCM.

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Cary Grant on TCM.
crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Oooh! One of my FAVOURITES!!

Thank you, COL!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 1, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Guaranteed to stay on topic for a while. I’ll come back later.

Somebody let me know if lourdes shows up.

cozmo on June 1, 2014 at 8:05 PM

One Sergeant for 5 jehadist recruiters….trainers….cheerleaders….
for their cause…

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:05 PM

“The War Is Over!!!”

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:07 PM

im sure the commentors on this site will find at least a dozen differant ways to deny obama any credit for this or spin it as a bad thing.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 1, 2014 at 8:07 PM

We had T-Storms today, but not as severe as expected…

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Now lets all get back to American Idol….

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

A Charles Robert Jenkins situation.

rbj on June 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Calling all Wenches, Rude Buffoons, loons and trolls…

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2014 at 8:09 PM

AllahWhiteyAkbar!

http://www.twitchy.com For all the saved tweets and faux pas

Including those tweets from terrorists and their white priveleged daddies!

Key West Reader on June 1, 2014 at 8:11 PM

im sure the commentors on this site will find at least a dozen differant ways to deny obama any credit for this or spin it as a bad thing.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 5:33 PM

He could have had credit if he did this back…
during that time of the Arab Spring…spring.summer of 20012…
When there were plenty of demonstrations in the middle East…
For the release of their top leaders…
Our media was all over it…remember?

But then Benghazi happened…..
So deflection was necessary…

Timing…

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:11 PM

why was he never declared a deserter?
this bugs me, speaks of command influence.

dmacleo on June 1, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Top Republicans on the Senate and House armed services committees went so far as to accuse President Obama of having broken the law, which requires the administration to notify Congress before any transfers from Guantanamo are carried out…

A senior administration official, agreeing to speak on the condition of anonymity to explain the timing of the congressional notification, acknowledged that the law was not followed.

So, Republicans are ‘accusing’ Obama of violating the law even though a senior administration official acknowledges that he did???

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:11 PM

At least 6 American soldiers were KIA looking for this POS deserter. And in return, the Taliban get five high level, experienced commanders. This is about as much of a lose-lose as Obama could have dreamt of.

BigAlSouth on June 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

At least 6 American soldiers were KIA looking for this POS deserter. And in return, the Taliban get five high level, experienced commanders. This is about as much of a lose-lose as Obama could have dreamt of.

BigAlSouth on June 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Saving Private Bergdahl ?

viking01 on June 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Q: Is a deserter, who is taken prisoner after he deserts, still considered to be a POW? Should he or she be?

Assuming that Bergdahl did desert (allegedly, he took off his uniform and then left his post, along with sending some highly questionable emails to his parents that could demonstrate his intent), should he really be considered to be a POW? How many American soldiers died looking for him? How many more people were put in danger searching for him? How many resources were diverted? In the event that one or more of the Taliban 5 commit crimes in the future, especially before the US completely leaves Afghanistan and especially if Americans are injured or killed, should he be considered an accessory, complicit, or to have contributed to the illegality?

I don’t know, but I do wonder what we should do to or for someone,
who has deserted during a time of war – an action for which he could be sentenced to death. If we had Goring and Himmler – both war criminals – like Mullah Mohammad Fazl and Mullah Norullah Noori – in detention during WWII would we have negotiated with Hitler via Switzerland to exchange them for an American deserter, who was in the custody of the Nazis?

Again, I don’t know and I’m not presuming Bergdahl to be guilty
of anything right now, but I am seriously interested because the
questions raised are important.

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM

“Due to a near-term opportunity to save Sergeant Bergdahl’s life, we moved as quickly as possible,” the official said.

Due to a five-year lack of interest in fixing the VA, we let hundreds die without releasing super-terrorists back into the fight.

But campaign rhetoric is Important, Vets lives aren’t.

So says Obama.

Who is John Galt on June 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Bergdahl Snuck Off Post to Join Taliban – At Least Six Americans Were Killed Trying to Find Him

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/bergdahl-snuck-off-post-to-join-taliban-at-least-six-americans-were-killed-trying-to-find-him/

idesign on June 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time.

coolrepublica on June 1, 2014 at 8:16 PM

‘There’s so much talk, and I don’t think talk solves lots of these problems. In foreign policy, you’re trying to do two things: comfort your friends, and scare the hell out of your enemies, or your potential enemies. A speech like this does not have that effect. Sometimes it is best to just be quiet, and not try to theorize and not try to explain here, and I think the explaining is just not working.’

– Bob Woodward, on the subject of Obama’s speech at West Point, Fox News Sunday, 1 June 2014

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM

We had T-Storms today, but not as severe as expected…

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2014 at 8:07 PM

That’s good. We’re expecting some tonight. I finished my paintings and took pictures of them and I just have to frame them. I can have another one if I can find the little clips I used on the frame. The thing is they always say to get into a show you have to have done the painting in the last 2 years. It doesn’t matter if they don’t know but I never remember whether I put anything in another show or not.

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM

First time I’ve seen three muslims in front of the white house!

p0s3r on June 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time.

coolrepublica on June 1, 2014 at 8:16 PM

And you participated…

You should feel good..

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM

So I watched the Bergdahl’s presser (not the one with Obama) and the dad said they hadn’t talked to Bowe because the “seer” who is advising them said they shouldn’t yet. At least I think that’s what he said – it’s difficult to tell.

I think the kid may have been better off with the Taliban.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:18 PM

I don’t think I have enough fight left.

It never ends. And I’m tired.

wolly4321 on June 1, 2014 at 8:18 PM

“What we did was ensure that, as always, the United States doesn’t leave a man or a woman on the battlefield,” Rice said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

except if you can blame it on a video and they aren’t a traitor. Then screw them and let them die.

chadlands on June 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM

“The War Is Over!!!”

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Do we get to have a parade?

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Would still like some more rain, so I hope it isn’t over…

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Do we get to have a parade?

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM

I am going to have a drink now that prohibition is finally over..

:)

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:20 PM

“What we did was ensure that, as always, the United States doesn’t leave a man or a woman on the battlefield,” Rice said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Obama doesn’t give a crap about that. It’s his same attitude towards the law — break it when he wants, and otherwise use it as a cudgel to get what he wants. So he’s pulling our heartstrings over “never leave anyone behind”. It’s bullshit.

On ABC national news tonight, they said the soldier walked away from his base, without his weapon. And they had video of the parents with Obama. The father sounded like a looney tunes. He started to cry when he talked about his son’s devotion to helping the Afghan people and children. The mother I couldn’t figure out. Neither had what I’d consider anything close to normal emotional reactions to the situation.

LashRambo on June 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM

5m
Tornado warning issued for Foster and Stutsman Counties in North Dakota until 7:45 pm CT – @TWCBreaking
read more on weather.com

Murphy9 on June 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Ktten!

Cause it’s just not fair that Ratso gets all the credit…

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM

I mean Kitten!

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Saving Private Bergdahl ?

viking01 on June 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM

That was my first thought as well, Viking.

Judge_Dredd on June 1, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Neither had what I’d consider anything close to normal emotional reactions to the situation.

LashRambo on June 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM

They are kind of peculiar. I hope the kid gets a psych evaluation.

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:23 PM

I am going to have a drink now that prohibition is finally over..

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Have one (or a few) on me.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:24 PM

1h ago
Ann B. Davis, who played Alice on ‘The Brady Bunch,’ died at age 88, roommates tell @TMZ
read more on http://www.tmz.com

Murphy9 on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

private eddie slovik must have went with the court appointed lawyer..
if only the krouts had found him first…
>>>>>back to work..

going2mars on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM

this is old info (I got out in 89) and am going off memory so take it with grain of salt.
SOP used to be do whatever possible to get soldier back under our (I was army MP) control and immediately charge with UA (unauthorized absence)to put a hold on him. during that period if evidence showed then charges would be upped to desertion.
what MAY be a sticky point here is most (iirc) of the punishments for desertion were based on a declaration of war.

as to the pow status, our sop was if we KNEW he/she went UA on purpose we, at least informally, did not consider him/her a POW.
but that always seemed to be more of a political decision to me and I never really got a good hold on procedures for that.
and for the record I never had to deal with this, I just dealt with normal UA as were were not in any combat at that time.

dmacleo on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

LashRambo on June 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Did your see the tweet from the father? ya know..the one that was deleted?

bazil9 on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

It seems to me this kid showed odd behavior before he went to Afghanistan. Why did they take him in the Army.

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Ta Nehsi Coates (Hyphen not included) says he wants reparations for slavery.

Yeah, me too. I want reparation from the Roman Empire for defeating and enslaving the Celts, my ancestors, way back when….

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Berghdal should be air dropped back to his friends the Taliban with his father with him this time.

VorDaj on June 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Pay up, Caesar…

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

I read about your problem last night after I got home. Just last week I called the police about the new “spanish” neighbor across the street. They’d been testing us lately with that irritating bass. This time was in broad daylight and I met the officer on the street. I made sure whoever it was saw me talking to him. And I made sure I spoke in a loud voice. So far no more noise. But I will not tolerate that bulls**t any longer than I have to.

Judge_Dredd on June 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Ann B. Davis, who played Alice on ‘The Brady Bunch,’ died at age 88, roommates tell @TMZ
read more on http://www.tmz.com
Murphy9 on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

RIP, Alice/Shatzie!

Newtie and the Beauty on June 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Berghdal’s dad looks like he may have some sympathy with the Taliban–the beard is part of the whole fundamentalist Muslim look…

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Q: Is a deserter, who is taken prisoner after he deserts, still considered to be a POW? Should he or she be?

Assuming that Bergdahl did desert (allegedly, he took off his uniform and then left his post, along with sending some highly questionable emails to his parents that could demonstrate his intent), should he really be considered to be a POW? How many American soldiers died looking for him? How many more people were put in danger searching for him? How many resources were diverted? In the event that one or more of the Taliban 5 commit crimes in the future, especially before the US completely leaves Afghanistan and especially if Americans are injured or killed, should he be considered an accessory, complicit, or to have contributed to the illegality?

I don’t know, but I do wonder what we should do to or for someone,
who has deserted during a time of war – an action for which he could be sentenced to death. If we had Goring and Himmler – both war criminals – like Mullah Mohammad Fazl and Mullah Norullah Noori – in detention during WWII would we have negotiated with Hitler via Switzerland to exchange them for an American deserter, who was in the custody of the Nazis?

Again, I don’t know and I’m not presuming Bergdahl to be guilty
of anything right now, but I am seriously interested because the
questions raised are important.

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM

I don’t know anything about it.

It seems that the knot there is that the enemy considers him an enemy and took him as prisoner of war. From the point of view of the enemy, he’s an imprisoned combatant, a POW. From the point of view of the people whose arms he deserted, he’s a deserter.

Also, must a deserter be a traitor? One’s more neutral than the other. A deserter held by the enemy is a citizen to be freed, if a deserter is not necessarily a traitor. And if he were a traitor, why would the enemy consider him a prisoner of war?

Axe on June 1, 2014 at 8:30 PM

How much would we have to pay the Taliban to take him back? And how much if he brought his creepy father with him?

VorDaj on June 1, 2014 at 8:32 PM

He and his family are very lucky. Good luck to them.

Christien on June 1, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Berghdal’s dad looks like he may have some sympathy with the Taliban–the beard is part of the whole fundamentalist Muslim look…

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:30 PM

He does. I read his blog and his twitter account.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM

and for the record I never had to deal with this, I just dealt with normal UA as were were not in any combat at that time.

dmacleo on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

It probably wouldn’t look good if you lost one of your men so they would probably rather get hold of him rather than admit they lost him.

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Berghdal’s dad looks like he may have some sympathy with the Taliban–the beard is part of the whole fundamentalist Muslim look…

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:30 PM

He does. I read his blog and his twitter account.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM

YEP

bazil9 on June 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

He does. I read his blog and his twitter account.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Yeah but is he Muslim?

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Im glas hes back but it does not sound like a good deal. Five jihadists who will immediately go back to slitting throats and car bombs for one US soldier does not sound like a fair deal.

jaywemm on June 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM

He and his family are very lucky. Good luck to them.

Christien on June 1, 2014 at 8:32 PM

May Berghdal and his father both get cancer and soon.

VorDaj on June 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Judge_Dredd on June 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM

I hear ya’
You should see the mess in their backyard from the party. Beer bottles, cans and cartons all over the place…

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

He does. I read his blog and his twitter account.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Yeah but is he Muslim?

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Is Pope Francis a socialist? =)

non-nonpartisan on June 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Anything the White House gang does is designed to aid the muslims. Let’s just admit that and move on.

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I’m still fighting over my grand dads M1 Garand.

It pizzes me off.

Feel free to write the Editor of the Burlington Free Press,

And tell him Wolly, a veteran deserves to inherit it.

Because I do.

wolly4321 on June 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Let’s look at the ‘math’ here:

We lost 6 American heroes.

We gave up 5 top-level Taliban jihadists, including 2 wanted by the UN for war crimes.

We got back 1 possible deserter, who was ashamed of being an American, and returned him to his Taliban-sympathising, ‘democracy is a cult’ father, who has argued that the death of every Afghan killed by the United States must be avenged.

In Obama’s Amerika, this is the definition of #Winning.

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I hope somebody “tagged” those guys we released in some way so we can follow them. You know that they are going to “escape” from Qatar or wherever it was they went…”unexpectedly”

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Yeah but is he Muslim?

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

They’re members (or were) of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Boise.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

War in Afghanistan
5h
Bowe Bergdahl’s dad says Bowe needs time to decompress after release – @Q13FOX
End of alert

https://twitter.com/Q13FOX
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Afghanistan
5h
Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar issues rare public statement hailing the exchange of 5 Guantanamo Bay detainees for a Taliban-held US soldier as a ‘big victory’ – @BBCNews
Read more on http://www.bbc.com

canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Is Pope Francis a socialist? =)

non-nonpartisan on June 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

He may not even realize it. But yes.

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

They’re members (or were) of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Boise.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Presbyterian Jihadists! who woulda thunk it?

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:41 PM

#Q13FOX News @Q13FOX · 3h

Freed Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s parents: ‘It isn’t over’ (VIDEO) >> http://go.q13fox.com/RTAg8a

http://q13fox.com/2014/06/01/official-u-s-acted-fast-to-save-sgt-bergdahls-life/#axzz33RDPN2bu

canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:41 PM

We got back 1 possible almost certain deserter defector

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

VorDaj on June 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Don’t forget obama freeing 36,000 criminal illegal immigrants.

bazil9 on June 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Happy as hell to see his release, and when it came over Breaking News,
that was a great day!

canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

The good shepherd searches for a lost sheep, even if it’s a black sheep. YMMV.

Christien on June 1, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Obama is utterly predictable.

Just ask yourself, “What action in situation X would weaken the US?”

That’s what he’ll do. Every time.

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:43 PM

http://q13fox.com/2014/06/01/official-u-s-acted-fast-to-save-sgt-bergdahls-life/#axzz33RDPN2bu
canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Only the zero administration can call five years to accomplish something “fast”…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 1, 2014 at 8:43 PM

They’re members (or were) of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Boise.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Presbyterian Jihadists! who woulda thunk it?

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Don’t blame them…they were predestined.

viking01 on June 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Bergdahl’s father spoke some Arabic words: “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim”. Meaning “In the name of God, most Gracious, most Compassionate”.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Pres Obama flanked by Sgt Bergdahl’s parents during statement in the Rose Garden. (CBS Photo by Erick Washington) pic.twitter.com/uZ2ZKgf2sY
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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Each of the parents offers thanks for the release of their son. They hug and kiss the president.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Pres Obama reaffirms “the iron clad commitment” of the US to “bring our POWs home. And today “it’s a promise we’ve been able to keep.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

POTUS says the “top priority” is making sure Bergdahl gets the care he needs and is reunited with this family as soon as possible.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

With the parents of Sgt Bergdahl at his side, Pres. Obama says their son “wasn’t forgotten by his country.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Pres Obama issued a written statement at midday on Bergdahl’s release. Said he had called Bergdahl’s parents to discuss their son’s freedom.

canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Presbyterian Jihadists! who woulda thunk it?

Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Those were the last words of King Charles I.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31
Pres Obama issued a written statement at midday on Bergdahl’s release. Said he had called Bergdahl’s parents to discuss their son’s freedom.
canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

What? Whatinell was there for him to discuss with them?

Lemme guess…are you fer it or agin it…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Capt’n Queeg, er, McCain weighs in:

McCain “eager to learn what precise steps” being taken to ensure “these vicious & violent Taliban extremists” never return to fight the US.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

McCain says the detainees turned over to Qatar “are hardened terrorists who have the blood of American & countless Afghans on their hands.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

While @SenJohnMcCain welcomes release of Sgt Bergdahl he questions the terms of release of the 5 Gitmo detainees.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Bergdahl is a 28 yr old Army Sgt from Hailey, ID. Was captured June 30, 2009. Was only American soldier still held in Afghanistan

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

SAO says 5 Gitmo detainees turned over to Qatar as part of Bergdahl deal will be subject to restrictions on their movement and activities.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

SAO says US reconciliation efforts with Taliban for release of Bergdahl “coordinated at the highest levels of the U.S. government.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

SAO says recovery of Sgt. Bergdahl has been “a central element of our reconciliation efforts” with Taliban since May 2011.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Senior Administration Official (SAO) says efforts to obtain Bergdahl’s release began w/ US reconciliation efforts with Taliban in Nov 2010.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Pentagon official says Bergdahl’s transfer to US forces from 18 Taliban took place quickly and peacefully.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Aboard rescue helicopter, Bergdahl wrote “SF?” asking if his liberators were US Special Forces. Yes, they said, bringing tears to his eyes.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Defense officials say US forces recovered Bergdahl from his captors in eastern Afghanistan.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

“Today we have back in our ranks the only remaining captured soldier from our conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan,” says Gen, Dempsey.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

In separate statement on Bergdahl, Chmn of the Joint Chiefs @Martin_Dempsey says “It is our ethos that we never leave a fallen comrade.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · May 31

Hagel says Bergdahl’s release shows the US Govt “never forgot Sgt. Bergdahl, nor did we stop working to bring him back.”

canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Way too many questions to completely come to an opinion on this one.

Berghdal, apparently, simply walked off. There is some question that he is a deserter. Did we really just hand back five high-level terrorists to get back a deserter?

Happy Nomad on June 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Those were the last words of King Charles I.

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

You heard him?

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Pay up, Caesar… Doc Holliday on June 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM

I didn’t know that was the question. It was more a question of whom we paid.

Because we pay, but to whom?

wolly4321 on June 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Let’s look at the ‘math’ here:

We lost 6 American heroes.

We gave up 5 top-level Taliban jihadists, including 2 wanted by the UN for war crimes.

We got back 1 possible deserter, who was ashamed of being an American, and returned him to his Taliban-sympathising, ‘democracy is a cult’ father, who has argued that the death of every Afghan killed by the United States must be avenged.

In Obama’s Amerika, this is the definition of #Winning.

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Obama to Leno: I struggle with math above the 7th grade level

Obama math: under new Common Core, 3 x 4 = 11

non-nonpartisan on June 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Also, must a deserter be a traitor? One’s more neutral than the other. A deserter held by the enemy is a citizen to be freed, if a deserter is not necessarily a traitor. And if he were a traitor, why would the enemy consider him a prisoner of war?

Axe on June 1, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Propaganda?

Would you have exchanged Himmler and Goring, both wanted for war crimes, for one deserter, who had fallen into the hands of the Nazis, during WWII?

What about an American, who deserted and aligned himself with the Nazis?

If a soldier deserted during a mission in Japan and blended into the population of Tokyo, should we have exchanged prisoners for him and/or delayed any bombing?

How far do we go to secure the release of someone who went ‘over the wall’?

Do we put American soldiers, who are upholding their oaths and performing their duty, at risk to secure one that did not?

If one or more of the Taliban 5 is responsible for the next 9/11 or Benghazi, especially before we are totally out of the Afghan theater, should Bergdahl bear any responsibility?

Resist We Much on June 1, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Ann B. Davis, who played Alice on ‘The Brady Bunch,’ died at age 88
Murphy9 on June 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Kinda freaky to read that – I was watching a BB episode this morning and I wondered if she were still alive.

whatcat on June 1, 2014 at 8:48 PM

canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

What? Whatinell was there for him to discuss with them?

Lemme guess…are you fer it or agin it…

Newtie and the Beauty on June 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Newtie and the Beauty:

Helluva good point,..I also noticed how fast Obama chimed in on
his release,

with the “We don’t leave a man behind”,…….well, on Hopey’s
Watch,…..

…..HE DID!!:)

canopfor on June 1, 2014 at 8:48 PM

You heard him?

crankyoldlady on June 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Saw the movie

kcewa on June 1, 2014 at 8:49 PM

He didn’t just simply walk off. He planned it for some time.

Blake on June 1, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Bergdahl reminds me of John Walker Lindh, the American Taliban.

Both had flaky parents, were one some kind of “Spiritual quest,” chose to go to Afghanistan, and ended up going to the Taliban because of their disgust with America.

Let them share a cell.

Wethal on June 1, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Be good to have him back. Now he won’t have to be tried in absentia.

whatcat on June 1, 2014 at 8:51 PM

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