Eco-warriors found paying people to protest Chevron

posted at 1:01 pm on May 31, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Back in March, a group of self-professed eco-warriors got their butts handed to them on a platter in court when they were found to have fraudulently attempted to pick the deep pockets of Chevron to the tune of billions of dollars. You’d think that after a drubbing such as this that they’d learn their lesson, no? Well, it seems that some people just can’t take no for an answer.

Humberto Piaguaje, of bogus Ecuador lawsuit fame, organized and led a new protest against Chevron outside of their annual company meeting being held in Midland, Texas. He managed to get several dozen people to show up and wave signs complaining about how awful the energy giant is. (This is the same “awful” company that provides more than 30,000 jobs in the US alone.) So… several dozen protesters, eh? That’s some real grassroots activism for ya. But I’m sure they were all dedicated, fervent believers in the cause at least.

Well… not so much.

To fill out the ranks of the demonstration, a Los Angeles-based production company offered local residents $85 apiece to serve as what the firm described in a recruiting e-mail as “extras/background people.”…

Television station NewsWest 9 reported the faux protest on its website, noting that viewers “took to our Facebook page this morning saying they received e-mails bribing them with $85 to join this protest.” When I called [film producer Julieta] Gilbert in Los Angeles, she said she “didn’t organize” the protest but only “helped with it.” She professed confusion as to who exactly had commissioned the event and whose idea it was to pay $85 a person for “extras.” She didn’t dispute the authenticity of the recruiting e-mail and she said she’d been in Texas for the May 28 protest and had just returned to California.

So rather than angry, environmentally conscious activists, Chevron was actually “protested” by unemployed actors looking to make a few bucks as extras in what they thought was a film project. Nice. What’s even better is the accidentally hilarious description of the advertisement to hire the actors provided by Ms. Gilbert herself.

Julieta Gilbert, executive producer of DFLA Films, said in the e-mail that the company “need to get a group of people to help us document this event. … We will pay each one of them $85. They will be there for a couple of hours (8am to 12 pm). We need ethically [sic] diverse people.”

Clearly she was going for “ethnically” but there’s a lovely bit of irony there. Of course, for the majority of people who answered the advertisement, it seems unfair to plaster a label on them. I get the impression that they had no idea what they were actually getting into and simply thought they were getting a paycheck to fill in a crowd scene.

But this should still serve as a reminder. If the anti-energy left can’t get real Americans riled up over Chevron’s right to exist and do business, they will hire dupes to give the media a convincing looking story. That says a lot about the people behind this charade.

(You can browse the full history of our coverage of the Ecuador Chevron shakedown here.)


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This is nothing new. The left busses rent-a-mobs around all the time.

They have to. There is nothing grassroots about anything the left supports, their ideas are imposed from the top down, NEVER the bottom up.

ConstantineXI on May 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM

These folks are so sincere.

John the Libertarian on May 31, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Como se dice “astroturf” en espanol?

Murphy9 on May 31, 2014 at 1:08 PM

finally the left is adopting the astroturf tacticts the right has been using for decades (remember the brooks brothers brigade down in floridia in 2000?)

good on them. you cant bring a knife to a gunfight. fight fire with fire.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

We need ethically [sic] diverse people.

Probably not a typo in her mind. Being a crook, she was looking for crooks.

GarandFan on May 31, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Yes, but were they UNION extras?

OregonCon on May 31, 2014 at 1:16 PM

they will hire dupes to give the media a convincing looking story. That says a lot about the people behind this charade.

That says a lot about the dupes in the media, too.

ss396 on May 31, 2014 at 1:19 PM

“Fake but accurate” – or something.

Pork-Chop on May 31, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Obama Doctrine: Ethically Diverse

faraway on May 31, 2014 at 1:24 PM

It comes down to this. The knowingly Marxist crowd in America is actually very small. In order to force their political agenda on a nation that basically isn’t Marxist (or at least doesn’t realize that they are Marxist) they need to make it appear that their numbers are orders of magnitude greater than they really are. It really is as simple as that.

oscarwilde on May 31, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Julieta Gilbert, executive producer of DFLA Films, said in the e-mail that the company “…We need ethically [sic] diverse people.”

“Not just frauds and liars! We need dissimulators! Transgiversators! Where are my phonies?!!”

de rigueur on May 31, 2014 at 1:26 PM

85 bucks to play an “ethically diverse” protester for 4 hrs hours? Cheap bastards.

OT: I miss Erika already – she never would have used the word “Butt”.

kcewa on May 31, 2014 at 1:27 PM

finally the left is adopting the astroturf tacticts the right has been using for decades (remember the brooks brothers brigade down in floridia in 2000?)

good on them. you cant bring a knife to a gunfight. fight fire with fire.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

ROFL!!!! Best laugh I’ve had in days! The left INVENTED AstroTurfing.

And you better never advise your communist brethren to get into a gunfight. It won’t end well for you.

ConstantineXI on May 31, 2014 at 1:27 PM

inally the left is adopting the astroturf tacticts the right has been using for decades (remember the brooks brothers brigade down in floridia in 2000?)

good on them. you cant bring a knife to a gunfight. fight fire with fire.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

And what do you suppose the role of “Community Organizer” is?

To create restless mobs where they previously did not exist.

The Left is so invested in Astroturf that they actually have paid positions in community organizing, and promoted their best Affirmative Action candidate to the nation’s top post.

Comparing “fighting fire with fire” to the supposed “Brooks Brothers Brigade” – The Left brings a thermo-nuclear arsenal to a candle-light vigil.

Hypocrites.

Reuben Hick on May 31, 2014 at 1:28 PM

floridia

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Antibiotics might clear that up for you.

faraway on May 31, 2014 at 1:29 PM

finally the left is adopting the astroturf tacticts the right has been using for decades (remember the brooks brothers brigade down in floridia in 2000?)

good on them. you cant bring a knife to a gunfight. fight fire with fire.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

The Florida protesters were actual Repubs who were there for a purpose they believed in. They were not paid actors who had no clue what they were protesting. Paid protesters are not new to the left. Unions among others frequently hire bodies to show up, people who have no idea what the protest is about.

If you think it’s good, especially now that’s it’s been exposed as an embarrassing fraud, then I really don’t know what to say to you. At the very least, it’s humiliating to the fraudsters.

Why they thought they would get away with this in Midland shows just how clueless they are. There is no way to mount an anti-oil company protest in Midland without shipping in paid actors.

juliesa on May 31, 2014 at 1:32 PM

fight fire with fire.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Speaking of fire, go embrace the burn on the VA thread.

Resist We Much on May 31, 2014 at 1:37 PM

At the very least, it’s humiliating to the fraudsters.

juliesa on May 31, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Sociopaths with narcissistic personality disorder are incapable of being humiliated, they have no sense of honor, shame, guilt or humility, they have no morals or ethic’s. The only thing that counts to them, that has meaning to them, is themselves and getting what they want. To them, the rest of us are just inanimate objects that either can be used like tools, or are obstacles in their path to be removed.

oscarwilde on May 31, 2014 at 1:43 PM

finally the left is adopting the astroturf tacticts the right has been using for decades (remember the brooks brothers brigade down in floridia in 2000?)

good on them. you cant bring a knife to a gunfight. fight fire with fire.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

And you can’t bring an illiterate to a comments page.

fIteFIreWitFIrEyo

In the words of the inimitable Steve Martin (back when he was funny): “Some people have a way with words, and some people… not have way.”

Dion on May 31, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Save the video. In 10 years, there will be a supersmart actor who denies ever having been paid to protest.

YouTube says: Fail

BobMbx on May 31, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Save the video. In 10 years, there will be a supersmart actor who denies ever having been paid to protest.

YouTube says: Fail

BobMbx on May 31, 2014 at 1:52 PM

The Internet is a cruel and sadistic master. Sooner or later, it will own your a$$…

oscarwilde on May 31, 2014 at 1:54 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Still in the top 5 of dumbest HA posters evah!!
Dang you’re hilarious. Are there really people like you out there???

CW on May 31, 2014 at 2:18 PM

I’m beginning to think these environmentals are all about getting rich from impoverishing the poor and the taxpayer.

What do you call an evil developer?
A person that wants to build a house in the forest.

What do you call an environmentalist?
A person that has already built a house in the forest.

Absolutely no self interest in the environmentals, NONE whatsoever.

jukin3 on May 31, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Why they thought they would get away with this in Midland shows just how clueless they are. There is no way to mount an anti-oil company protest in Midland without shipping in paid actors…

juliesa on May 31, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Correct!

LOL! Having lived in the Midland-Odessa area for 7 years, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in Midland during that arranged event. Especially…since there are no rooms/houses to rent in the Midland-Odessa area d/t the oil boom, I’m wondering where these “warriors” slept? Doubt anyone opened their doors to them. People are traveling as far as Lubbock to have a place to stay, and every little town within driving distance.

TIYBOK I hate to feed a troll, but …….you’re…… just a Looney Toon. Plus…you’re really not a good advert for your side, I guess you know? **__**

avagreen on May 31, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Mr. Galeano, a 73-year-old Uruguayan writer, has disavowed the bookI think you might have that confused with the “I am very young and incredibly

funny things start to happen to peoples minds around that age. give it a few years and galeano might think hes the pope or napolean.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:42 PM

You really should change your moniker to:

ThisIsYourBrainOn74-Year-OldHarryReid

Resist We Much on May 31, 2014 at 2:25 PM

The Florida protesters were actual Repubs who were there for a purpose they believed in. They were not paid actors who had no clue what they were protesting.

juliesa on May 31, 2014 at 1:32 PM

says you.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:29 PM

says you.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Such a child.

CW on May 31, 2014 at 2:30 PM

You really should change your moniker to:

ThisIsYourBrainOn74-Year-OldHarryReid

Resist We Much on May 31, 2014 at 2:25 PM

leader reid is still in posession of all mental faculties. did karl rove tell you to suggest otherwise?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:30 PM

(remember the brooks brothers brigade down in floridia in 2000?)

ThisIsWhat’sLeftOfYourBrainOnSoros on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Too bad your Cult Hero Gore got rejected by the voters of his own home state of Tennessee in that 2000 election. If they had voted for him, he would never have needed to win Florida in the first place. You must be so proud of that achievement!

I would also be proud of the fact that the vast majority of the legal decisions against Gore in Florida were in fact handed done by Democrat Judges. Wouldn’t you agree?

Del Dolemonte on May 31, 2014 at 2:30 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Still in the top 5 of dumbest HA posters evah!!
Dang you’re hilarious. Are there really people like you out there???

CW on May 31, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Skim through the speculation or hint-dropping in the first couple of pages of yesterday evening’s QOTD thread. Apparently, he may BE all 5!

de rigueur on May 31, 2014 at 2:30 PM

The Florida protesters were actual Repubs who were there for a purpose they believed in. They were not paid actors who had no clue what they were protesting.

juliesa on May 31, 2014 at 1:32 PM

says you. but eric alterman told me they were in fact paid stooges. he actually imagined that he was there!

ThisIsWhat’sLeftOfYourBrainOnSoros on May 31, 2014 at 2:29 PM

fixed.

Del Dolemonte on May 31, 2014 at 2:33 PM

You really should change your moniker to:

ThisIsYourBrainOn74-Year-OldHarryReid

Resist We Much on May 31, 2014 at 2:25 PM

leader reid is still in posession of all mental faculties. did karl rove tell you to suggest otherwise?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:30 PM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Dingy Reid is a corrupt and demented old man.

And, for the record, I positively loathe Karl Rove. Unlike you, I don’t take marching orders or receive talking points from anyone.

Resist We Much on May 31, 2014 at 2:35 PM

mental faculties.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:30 PM

You don’t have the capability to identify such things.

CW on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

you cant bring a knife to a gunfight.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Hey Sparky, you also have to bring a brain, which you seem to be lacking, to a debate.

And do you type out your posts on a ten year old phone? You know, one with those tiny little keyboards? Or is your grammar and spelling just on par with your intelligence?

NOMOBO on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Dingy Reid is a corrupt and demented old man.

prove either of those things. i dare you.

And, for the record, I positively loathe Karl Rove. Unlike you, I don’t take marching orders or receive talking points from anyone.

Resist We Much on May 31, 2014 at 2:35 PM

i take orders from nobody.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

floridia

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Antibiotics might clear that up for you.

faraway on May 31, 2014 at 1:29 PM

He won a spelling bee once y’know.

slickwillie2001 on May 31, 2014 at 2:44 PM

i take orders from nobody.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Different drummer kinda guy, eh? I’d ease up on the trolling if I were one of you. One of those socks is going to take you over one of these days. Late some night.

de rigueur on May 31, 2014 at 2:44 PM

finally the left is adopting the astroturf tacticts the right has been using for decades (remember the brooks brothers brigade down in floridia in 2000?)

good on them. you cant bring a knife to a gunfight. fight fire with fire.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

I’m convinced that if your parents did not draw arrows on the basement floor you’d never make it upstairs for meal and starve.

307wolverine on May 31, 2014 at 2:48 PM

i take orders from nobody.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

You mean you’re a self-starter in the stupidity department?

307wolverine on May 31, 2014 at 2:50 PM

i take orders from nobody.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Sounds like a cri de coeur to me.

de rigueur on May 31, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Double Dog Dare to Hot Air blog and or Jazz Shaw to put up the current top thread on Watts up with that blog by

Daniel B. Botkin PHD “Enviroment” .

The Kennedy Congressperson from Democrat central committee gets rude to the guy, who knows how to handle brats in his class room.

http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/

Dr. Botkin’s full response to the committee is also included with vido of the back and forth between Kennedy and Botkin as well as some blather by the cult members who gave the CO2 scare talking points also.

sweet stuff….

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 31, 2014 at 2:53 PM

prove either of those things. i dare you.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

OK…from a story in the LA Times…

Such was the case with the Clark County Conservation of Public Land and Natural Resources Act of 2002—a piece of legislation introduced by Reid—which dealt with a variety of boundary shifts and land trades in Nevada. Reid assured his colleagues that the bill was a bipartisan measure that would benefit both the natural environment and the economy in Nevada.

“What Reid did not explain,” the Los Angeles Times reported, “was that the bill promised a cavalcade of benefits to real estate developers, corporations and local institutions that were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in lobbying fees to his sons’ and son-in-law’s firms.”

For example, the Howard Hughes Corporation alone paid $300,000 to the small, Washington-based consulting firm of Reid’s son-in-law, Steven Barringer, to promote a provision allowing Hughes to acquire 998 acres of highly valuable federal land situated in the rapidly growing Las Vegas metropolitan area. In federal lobbyist reports, Barringer is listed as one of Hughes’s representatives on the measure that Reid introduced.

Other provisions of the 2002 bill were intended to benefit (to the tune of several million dollars) a real-estate development headed by HARVEY WHITTEMORE, a senior partner in the Nevada law firm that EMPLOYED ALL FOUR OF REID’S SONS. Specifically, Reid intervened to gain monumental government concessions on behalf of Whittemore, who wished to build thousands of homes and numerous golf courses on 43,000 acres of barren land in an area called Coyote Springs, an hour northeast of Las Vegas.

This land had a number of federal restrictions on its use: Most notably, one-fourth of it was off-limits to developers because of federal protections for an “endangered” species of desert tortoise that dwelt there; another one-fourth (about 10,500 acres) was government-owned and was subject to a federal power-line right of way; and the Coyote Springs territory as a whole was rife with streams and washes that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) had designated as crucial to the health of the desert’s ecosystem, and was therefore generally off-limits to construction.

Thanks to Senator Reid’s intercession, however, the Bureau of Land Management agreed to relocate the “endangered” tortoises to an adjacent federal preserve, thereby opening that portion of Coyote Springs to developers.

That would be the very same Harvey ‘Very Close Friend of Harry’ Whittemore, who was recently sentenced to Federal prison for violating federal campaign cash laws by giving Dingy dirty, illegal money. (But, but, but, the Koch Brothers!!!):

Reid Supporter Whittemore Gets 2 Years in Campaign Cash Case

I have more, if you want it.

i take orders from nobody.

LMFAO!

Resist We Much on May 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM

you cant bring a knife to a gunfight.

ThisIsMyMouthOnKoch

Sure you can. Nobody needs a gun, remember? Just arm yourself with a full belly so you can piss and vomit on them.

xblade on May 31, 2014 at 3:22 PM

i take orders from nobody.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Vote for Nobody

kcewa on May 31, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Eco-Bevisandbuttheads

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 31, 2014 at 3:23 PM

leader reid is still in posession of all mental faculties. did karl rove tell you to suggest otherwise?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Are you an intern at “The Onion”?

tanked59 on May 31, 2014 at 3:27 PM

I have more, if you want it.

Resist We Much on May 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Great job nailing the corruption.

Here’s the dementia.

de rigueur on May 31, 2014 at 3:30 PM

i take orders from nobody.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Then f*cking act like it. No INTEGRITY. NONE>

CW on May 31, 2014 at 3:39 PM

. i dare you.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Grow up. Sheesh.

CW on May 31, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Thisyoudidwithoutabrain,

Got facts, use them.

Got old Obama lies and fraud, eat them yourself.

Use lots of sugar and spice as you try to hold it down once swallowed.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 31, 2014 at 3:43 PM

i take orders from nobody.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Which explains why your stint at McDonald’s lasted less than an hour.

Tell us, boy, why is it only the dregs of society like yourself who won’t work that support “progressive” causes?

northdallasthirty on May 31, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Maybe that recruitment email was supposed to read: We Are ethically divested people.

If you can’t find people to support your cause, you can always hire some.

“leader reid”? That sounds familiar. “The Leader”. Where did I hear that before, Godwin?

“That’s a joke, ah say, that’s a joke, son.”

OBQuiet on May 31, 2014 at 4:03 PM

So rather than angry, environmentally conscious activists, Chevron was actually “protested” by unemployed actors looking to make a few bucks as extras in what they thought was a film project.

Offer them free barbequed spare ribs. Worked for Francis and Claire Underwood.

MichaelGabriel on May 31, 2014 at 4:22 PM

The Kennedy Congressperson from Democrat central committee gets rude to the guy, who knows how to handle brats in his class room.

http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/

Dr. Botkin’s full response to the committee is also included with vido of the back and forth between Kennedy and Botkin as well as some blather by the cult members who gave the CO2 scare talking points also.

sweet stuff….

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 31, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Although slightly OT, thanks for that link.

It appears that Dr. Botkin, in response to Kennedy’s question about looking both ways before he crosses the street, should have asked the young punk if he can walk and chew gum at the same time.

NOMOBO on May 31, 2014 at 4:28 PM

i take orders from nobody.

ThisIsWhat’sLeftOfYourBrainOnSoros on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Democrats like yourself with the IQ of a piece of lawn furniture are incapable of taking orders.

Del Dolemonte on May 31, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Next you’ll tell me water’s wet.

formwiz on May 31, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Actors aren’t ethically diverse; they are leftists almost without exception.

But they can play “ethically diverse” for dollars. I guess that’s close enough.

David Blue on May 31, 2014 at 5:05 PM

This is nothing new. The left busses rent-a-mobs around all the time.

They have to. There is nothing grassroots about anything the left supports, their ideas are imposed from the top down, NEVER the bottom up.

ConstantineXI on May 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Andrew Breitbart was great at exposing this. We were right behind Breitbart and witnessed this confrontation in person.

Fallon on May 31, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Grrr… Meant to share the link.

Fallon on May 31, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Democrats like yourself with the IQ of a piece of lawn furniture are incapable of taking orders.

Del Dolemonte on May 31, 2014 at 4:30 PM

And when his mental superiors strip their own society of the ability to issue the likes of Lawnchair Larry an adult-sized spanking because it’s not ‘enlightened’ and their womenfolk are all in a fuss, people like him elect people like him.

Then the REAL fun starts.

LawfulGood on May 31, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Andrew Breitbart was great at exposing this. We were right behind Breitbart and witnessed this confrontation in person.

Fallon on May 31, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Grrr… Meant to share the link.

Fallon on May 31, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Not surprised that OFA was behind this hatred shown and stupdity that was evidenced by their inability to answer Breitbart about their baseless claims.

I can usually shut someone up on Disqus by asking them how much OFA is paying them. For some reason, they never answer (which is strange……as it would just be so simple to deny it ??)and just fade away. Probs to come back as another sockpuppet.

avagreen on May 31, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Where did our little troll go?

avagreen on May 31, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Where did our little troll go?

avagreen on May 31, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Mom went into the basement to do laundry and disturbed him.

307wolverine on May 31, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Liberalism is a mental disorder. Yet another shining example.

Ta111 on May 31, 2014 at 8:12 PM

They just could’ve handed out free gas cards for participation in the “protest”.

tpitman on June 1, 2014 at 7:56 AM

So if this was not a real protest, but rather a production with paid actors, do free speech or right of assembly rules apply, or is there a need to buy a permit for using that area for a production?

Americanman28 on June 1, 2014 at 12:00 PM

So if this was not a real protest, but rather a production with paid actors, do free speech or right of assembly rules apply, or is there a need to buy a permit for using that area for a production?

Americanman28 on June 1, 2014 at 12:00 PM

They need a permit and should be prosecuted for attempting to dodge the law.

Free speech applies to freewill gatherings only. If you pay people to show up, much less have specific recruiting campaigns, you’re a political organization and you need to follow the rules for one.

LawfulGood on June 1, 2014 at 1:32 PM

. i dare you.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM

I am still ambivalent as to whether TIYBOK is a troll baiting the commenters, a puppet of HA boosting the thread, or a real Lefty with serious comprehension issues.

Based on the evidence, however, I am certain that he is not a long-term reader of HA, for two reasons: (1) a lot of his “questions” address points made over and over again, or stories that were recently “hot” and well-covered at the time; (2) anyone but a totes newbie knows not to dare RWM about anything.

AesopFan on June 1, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Free speech applies to freewill gatherings only. If you pay people to show up, much less have specific recruiting campaigns, you’re a political organization and you need to follow the rules for one.

LawfulGood on June 1, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Excellent point.
Complaints might not get any traction with Leftist judges, but the hassle factor might make them worthwhile.
Not sure where the line would be between specific recruiting campaigns and real grass-roots advertising of the gathering.

AesopFan on June 1, 2014 at 9:18 PM