Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on May 30, 2014 by Allahpundit

There’s a well-worn Obama playbook: Let conservative critics burn hot, put off decisions during a fact-finding mission, quietly set up a procedure that starts to tackle the problems. Count on his allies on the Hill to have his back. And definitely, definitely don’t appear to be cowed into firing people.

Not this time.

This week saw Democrats, faced with evidence of the misconduct at VA health facilities and the political radioactivity of a scandal involving injured veterans, start rushing to get ahead of even Republicans calling for Shinseki to go, leaving the White House struggling to explain what the president was waiting for

For a White House used to dismissing scandals as partisan slime-slinging, this is new territory.

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It was clear Eric Shinseki had to resign, oh… two weeks ago, wasn’t it? All the mitigating realities—that GOP congresses cut funding for Veterans Affairs, that the VA always has big problems, that it did other good things on his watch, and so on—may be true. But they don’t change the bottom-line fact that the scandal was real and horrible, and it was happening in the agency he ran.

I yearn for an America where people in positions of leadership actually take actual responsibility for their actual failures. This applies to Shinseki in the current case but also to our entire litigious ass-covering culture, both public and private sectors (the private sector is in fact far, far worse in this way; half the gonefs who sent the country into near-Depression are still making billions). Shinseki is an honorable patriot who’s been smeared unjustly in the past (more on that later). But here, he should have just stood up two weeks ago and said: “Yep, I did a bad job running the VA. I’m really sorry. It’s time for me to leave.”

And, of course, President Obama should have acted sooner. The only thing that the delay of the inevitable accomplished was to give Republicans two weeks in which to repeat and repeat and repeat the criticisms that he’s aloof and out of touch and that he doesn’t care about the military.

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Despite long-running problems, the VA has fired a grand total of three senior executives for performance in the last five years—one-fourth the federal average for terminations. Last year, the Office of Personnel Management disclosed that about 0.47 percent of the federal workforce was terminated for cause, considerably below the 3 percent fired in the private sector. In 2011, USA Today reported that in at least 15 federal agencies, employees were more likely to die of natural causes than be terminated in any given year. It’s not uncommon for federal agencies that employ thousands of people to go an entire year without firing a single employee. Meanwhile, the average federal employee made $126,141 in pay and benefits in 2012, more than double the private sector average.

On an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote of 390-33, the House of Representatives passed legislation last week that would give the VA greater authority to fire or demote senior executives for performance. The additional firing flexibility would apply only to the top 360 supervisors out of more than 340,000 employees at the VA. Even so, the bill has been blocked in the Senate by Vermont’s Bernie Sanders. “Some of us are old-fashioned enough to know that maybe folks in the Senate might want to know what is in the bill before we voted on it,” he said. It’s much more likely that Sanders and allied Democrats are so influenced by donations from powerful federal employee unions that, even in face of fatal negligence, they are going to the mat for a few hundred employees out of a federal workforce of more than two million.

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“This is a core competency question for the White House,” Cantor, the House majority leader, said in an interview with POLITICO Thursday. “And, as I have said before, this president seems to be in many areas in over his head. There are lots of issues of competency that are being raised right now about what’s going on in this government.”…

“I want to hear what the president has to say,” an irate Cantor said on Thursday. “This is a huge problem. One resignation — as I said before — 100 resignations may not solve the problem that we’re trying to get to for the millions of veterans. Where is the president? The buck stops at the president. Clearly Shinseki is not doing a good job, OK? It’s unacceptable what’s going on at the VA. Where’s the president on this? Why isn’t he taking ownership?”…

This isn’t all about politics. The House Republican leadership says they believe the problems at the VA are broad — one aide said they don’t know where their probe should even begin.

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“I wish that the President had been more aggressive since minute one to go in and fix it himself, because what’s happened there is a disgrace,” Christie said in a brief interview on Friday, hours after Shinseki met with the President and stepped down from his post…

“More importantly than the resignation, he should be in rolling up his sleeves and trying to put a stop to it,” Christie said. “That’s more than just saying you’re angry and getting resignations.”

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But the president is an executive, and executives manage. They set a tone, establish accountability, light fires, remind those to whom authority is delegated who’s boss. They set expectations and standards. “If you can’t cut it, you’re out.”

Mr. Obama has never seemed that interested in the management of government. It is completely believable that he read about the VA scandal in the newspapers, where he has learned of other administration scandals. It is believable he had no idea what was going on in a major, problem-plagued agency.

Making sure that things work doesn’t seem to be his conception of his job. Words are his job. He argues for a bill, the bill becomes a program, and someone else will make it work. He talks about health care for three years, it debuts with a terrible crash, and he’s shocked. Why didn’t it work? He told it to! His background was one of some privation, but as an executive he acts like a man who grew up with 10 maids. Let them do it, I’m too busy thinking.

Mr. Obama said, when he first ran for president in 2008, that the VA system was a mess and he’d clean it up. It has gotten worse under his watch. He must be shocked. He told it to get better! He said the words!

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It is no surprise that, the day before he resigned, the VA’s General Shinseki conceded simultaneously that the problems at the Veterans Administration were national and systemic but that the best way to address them was to fire officials in the places that have made the news. That, after all, is the Obama way. If something goes wrong, it’s always the fault of a low-level official in a faraway town; of recalcitrant Republican legislators; or, more often than not, of unhinged ire based upon “phony” claims. Explaining to Chris Matthews what went wrong with the rollout of his health-care legislation, Obama suggested that the trouble was “not so much my personal management style or particular issues around White House organization” but that “we have these big agencies, some of which are outdated, some of which are not designed properly.” “Frankly,” the president continued, “there are a lot of members of Congress who are chairmen of a particular committee. And they don’t want necessarily consolidations where they would lose jurisdiction over certain aspects of certain policies.”

Even when he is attempting to apologize, Obama cannot help but to talk out of both sides of his mouth. “This is my administration,” he informed the press corps Friday. “I always take responsibility for whatever happens.” Then he immediately blamed others for what happened, noting acidly that the problem with the VA “predates my presidency.” One wonders at what point Obama expects to be judged. He expressly ran on a promise to fix the VA. He is now in the sixth year of his presidency. When might we look for the results?

The simple answer, it seems, is never. As he has from the very beginning, the president continues to conduct himself like a man standing outside the gates.

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It’s certainly true that Obama is a poor manager. He isn’t interested in the nuts and bolts of policy implementation. He prefers to strike poses. He makes pronouncements such as this: “If these allegations prove to be true, it is dishonorable, it is disgraceful, and I will not tolerate it. Period.” (You’d think by now he’d avoid the intensifier “period.”) As with his comments about the IRS scandal, and “If you like your doctor . . . ,” and Benghazi, and the Justice Department’s targeting of journalists, the important thing is to get the affect right, not to solve problems or take responsibility. It’s unacceptable and a disgrace and no one is angrier than he . . . and what’s on Game of Thrones tonight? Maybe he should pose for a photo holding a sign saying “#Manage Our Government.”

Even if Obama were the best manager in the world, the problems with efficient service delivery by government would continue — because the government is too large, too unwieldy, and too lacking in incentives for efficiency to yield much, if at all, to management. A business that fails to deliver services will be crushed by its competitors. Government can never go out of business.

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Via the Corner.

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Via the Free Beacon.

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Ratso!

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Me first.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Geez, Omaha. What do you do, type it out and then hit submit.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Only close…horseshoes and stun grenades and all that.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Here.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Heh, nope. Just a lot of training…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Eliminate public sector unions, and eliminate all bonuses. Taxpayers shouldn’t be paying bonuses to employees that work for us, and they should be able to be easily terminated when they are incompetent…just it happens in the private sector.

ladyingray on May 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Calling all Wenches, Rude Buffoons, loons and trolls…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Present!

KCB on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Hey, y’all. Getting ready to head out to dinner. Celebrating. My capstone project got approved. Yeah! If it does well, I may get a free ride to work in Australia next spring for a few months!

Very excited!!! Not staying long. So fired up. Going to be really busy for the next four months.

Y’all have been so great to me. Thank you. See ya’ later. Take care XXXOOO to all.

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Bernie Sanders hates veterans and wants them to die.

rbj on May 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Who is the moron in chief saluting in that picture.

RickB on May 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Congrats, darlin’
Enjoy dinner…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Hey, y’all. Getting ready to head out to dinner. Celebrating. My capstone project got approved. Yeah! If it does well, I may get a free ride to work in Australia next spring for a few months!

Very excited!!! Not staying long. So fired up. Going to be really busy for the next four months.

Y’all have been so great to me. Thank you. See ya’ later. Take care XXXOOO to all.

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

So thrilled for you. I don’t know what that is but congratulations.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:09 PM

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Congratulations!

KCB on May 30, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Who is the moron in chief saluting in that picture.

RickB on May 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM

I halfway expected him to bow to Shinseki…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Jay Carney needs to follow his dreams and elope with George Stephanopoulos.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM

It was a lovely day here. Not too hot and humid.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM

I got the loon part down pat.

DemetriusPhalerum on May 30, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Thanks! I am so excited! This is great.

See y’all when I see ya’

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:12 PM

faced with evidence of the misconduct at VA health facilities

Misconduct ?
THE WORD IS — HOMICIDES.
Homicides.

burrata on May 30, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Has lourdes been around? That stun grenade thread got me in a mood.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:15 PM

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

WAAAY COOL !!
Enjoy !

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:15 PM

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Haven’t seen her yet…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Calling all Wenches, Rude Buffoons, loons and trolls…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM

What about pseudo-trolls?

That stupid police thread got my dander up.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Has lourdes been around? That stun grenade thread got me in a mood.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Me too.

A whole lotta stupid in that thread.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:17 PM

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Have been lurking that one, and I end up nodding my head at your posts.
:-)

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

That stupid police thread got my dander up.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Yeah, I saw that. Very heated thread…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Yeah, I lurked there too…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Shinseki is an honorable patriot who’s been smeared unjustly in the past

but at least he is ALIVE, unlike all those he killed who were all honorable patriots too .
On second thought, Sh1tshakey is an honorable patriot in the same category as John effin Kerry and John Murtha.

burrata on May 30, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Hey, y’all. Getting ready to head out to dinner. Celebrating. My capstone project got approved. Yeah! If it does well, I may get a free ride to work in Australia next spring for a few months!

Very excited!!! Not staying long. So fired up. Going to be really busy for the next four months.

Y’all have been so great to me. Thank you. See ya’ later. Take care XXXOOO to all.

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

lineholder: Congrats,…just don’t fly,….(sarc)
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Darwin International Airport, Darwin, Northern Territory, AU
Darwin, Northern Territory, AU

12m
Photo: Ash cloud from Indonesia’s Mount Sangiang forces cancellation of all flights in and out of Darwin, Australia – @australian
see original on twitter.com
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Darwin, Northern Territory, AU
1h
Flights in and out of Darwin, Australia, cancelled due to volcano activity in Indonesia – @KatGregoryABC
End of alert

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Blah blah blah. It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on May 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Y’all are smarter than me. I was drawn like a moth to a flame.

Luckily I brought my flame thrower.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:23 PM

coolrepublica on May 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM

YUPS.
Ain’t it fun ?

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:23 PM

MeanWhile,….the ISSA Posse’????????????????????:

Matt Lee @APDiploWriter · 12m

Issa blinked? RT @ajamlive: Read: Rep. Issa is releasing Secretary Kerry from the upcoming Benghazi hearing

https://twitter.com/ajamlive/status/472428863671508992/photo/1

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:23 PM

For me, lurking happens when someone ELSE has brought their flame thrower, and I can sit back and nod along.

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:25 PM

MeanWhile,….the ISSA Posse’????????????????????:

Matt Lee @APDiploWriter · 12m

Issa blinked? RT @ajamlive: Read: Rep. Issa is releasing Secretary Kerry from the upcoming Benghazi hearing

https://twitter.com/ajamlive/status/472428863671508992/photo/1

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Letting the Select Committee take over, most likely.

KCB on May 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Congratulations!

Doc Holliday on May 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Has lourdes been around? That stun grenade thread got me in a mood.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Me too.

A whole lotta stupid in that thread.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:17 PM

A whole lotta stupid. Thought I stumbled onto the Huffington Post.

Cheese Wheel on May 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:23 PM

The headline thread was enough for me…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Bernie Sanders hates veterans and wants them to die. rbj on May 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Yet, he chairs the Senate Veterans Committee.

I’m not disagreeing with you.

wolly4321 on May 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Heh, sometimes there I thought I was a majority of one.

Some people get so caught up with their own tree, they miss the entire forest.

Hell, I wish the world was that easy.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Why did this thread get promoted to Top Picks with only 62 comments?

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

You know what a commitee is, eh Wolly? A life form with six or more arms and legs and no brain. Neh?

DemetriusPhalerum on May 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I was griping about mowing the yards today. Now I take it all back and am glad I missed it.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Some high mucky muck has it as a personal favorite.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:31 PM

I was at the hospital all day, so what did I miss?

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Letting the Select Committee take over, most likely.

KCB on May 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

I completely agree. I think they want to avoid any Demoncrat effort to make a public spectacle as much as they can.

non-nonpartisan on May 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Kerry wasn’t Sec. of State at the time.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:34 PM

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:23 PM

That’s one reason I wanted you to know I was in support .. Sure didn’t want to get started, myself.
Wimpy, loony wench, here.

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:34 PM

You know what a commitee is, eh Wolly? A life form with six or more arms and legs and no brain. Neh? DemetriusPhalerum on May 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Yea,, I pretty much know what one is. And what they can do.

Do you?

wolly4321 on May 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Hey, y’all. Getting ready to head out to dinner. Celebrating. My capstone project got approved. Yeah! If it does well, I may get a free ride to work in Australia next spring for a few months!

Very excited!!! Not staying long. So fired up. Going to be really busy for the next four months.

Y’all have been so great to me. Thank you. See ya’ later. Take care XXXOOO to all.

lineholder on May 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Congrats and good luck (can you tell us what the project is, or would you have to kill us after?)

AesopFan on May 30, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Que? Amplify, s’il vous plait.

DemetriusPhalerum on May 30, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Yeah, I saw that. Very heated thread…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Anyone suggesting that the police made a mistake in any way were accused of defending drug dealers.

You either hated the police or wanted babies to die.

There was no middle ground.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM

In my experience, a commitee accomplishes nothing without a strong presence driving it. Is that what you mean?

DemetriusPhalerum on May 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM

There was no middle ground.
Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Embrace the suck/new normal.
Some folks .. sheesh.

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Heh, sometimes there I thought I was a majority of one.

Some people get so caught up with their own tree, they miss the entire forest.

Hell, I wish the world was that easy.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Lots of hyperbole elevated things over there.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

That reminds me. The old Geerman newspapers used to say gratulations, which makes sense. Congratulations means with gratulations. I didn’t know gratulations was a word.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

It was frigging hot today.

107°f by the middle of next week. Death zone.

wolly4321 on May 30, 2014 at 8:39 PM

What gets me about the Atlanta baby fiasco is with all the drones, wiretaps, judicial crap and internet surveillance we’ve come to know and love that they couldn’t figure out more precisely the probable occupants of the place they stormed.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Embrace the suck/new normal.
Some folks .. sheesh.

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I must admit I was part of the problem.

Once the guy accused people of defending drug dealers, all I could do was ridicule him.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

wolly4321 on May 30, 2014 at 8:39 PM

ugggggh!

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Heh, sometimes there I thought I was a majority of one.

Some people get so caught up with their own tree, they miss the entire forest.

Hell, I wish the world was that easy.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Lots of hyperbole elevated things over there.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

America seems to be experiencing a lot of that maniacal hysteria that gripped Germany in the late 30′s.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

That reminds me. The old Geerman newspapers used to say gratulations, which makes sense. Congratulations means with gratulations. I didn’t know gratulations was a word.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

One can’t be disgruntled without being gruntled.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

they couldn’t figure out more precisely the probable occupants of the place they stormed.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 8:40 PM

That’s what I was thinking. They have robots they send in to look through the window. With all this stuff they seem to be less capable than in the old simple days. Maybe they rely too much on technology and not enough on brains.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:42 PM

One can’t be disgruntled without being gruntled.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

German not Geerman. Gruntled doesn’t sound like something I’d want to be.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

pambi on May 30, 2014 at 8:34 PM

No, just smart on your part.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Kristallnacht was brought up at least once. In a really weird way.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

America seems to be experiencing a lot of that maniacal hysteria that gripped Germany in the late 30′s.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Why do you think that is?

Seems like there’s a lot of cynicism.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Calling all Wenches, Rude Buffoons, loons and trolls…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Sloshed beeech reporting for dooooty SIR :O
DOTD :
Cucumber juice with pepper flavored vodka and mint ice !

burrata on May 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Letting the Select Committee take over, most likely.

KCB on May 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

KCB: Typical,..haha,…ahems:)

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

DOTD :
Cucumber juice with pepper flavored vodka and mint ice !

burrata on May 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

That sounds really good. BRB.

Murphy9 on May 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

viking01 on May 30, 2014

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014

Let’s not rehash that here, please.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I don’t think these cops were doing the storm trooper thing. They made a mistake and they should pay for it. That doesn’t mean some other police forces aren’t being storm troopers.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

No it ain’t.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:47 PM

In my experience, a commitee accomplishes nothing without a strong presence driving it. Is that what you mean? DemetriusPhalerum on May 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM

No.

Do you know where brainshit law starts?

wolly4321 on May 30, 2014 at 8:47 PM

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:42 PM

If they can get a warrant to storm the place they probably can to bug the place. A simple bug on a windowpane or infrared surveillance camera to detect warm bodies inside the structure or any of a wide variety of other passive technology.

Instead we’re moving rapidly towards what A Clockwork Orange called the “old ultraviolence” hence my alluding to Janet Reno’s patented I’ll Huff and Puff and Burn You and Your Place Down approach.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

America seems to be experiencing a lot of that maniacal hysteria that gripped Germany in the late 30′s.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Why do you think that is?

Seems like there’s a lot of cynicism.

Bigbullets on May 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Let’s just say that, I have many irons in the fire, lot’s of things I am watching so to speak.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Prayers for your brother and family. Hope all goes well.

Barred on May 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Let’s not rehash that here, please.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

No kidding…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Shut up.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 30, 2014 at 8:50 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 30, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Make me. I have pictures…

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Wonder where Koch sucka is?

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Prayers for your brother and family. Hope all goes well.

Barred on May 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

He went in to surgery at 7am, got out at 1:30pm, got out of recovery at 3:00 PST. At the moment he feels like a greyhound bus ran him over, backed up and then ran him over again, then parked on him and off and on loaded passengers. But, then again, it was spinal surgery, so that is to be expected.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Gee, It’s cooler so I turn off the fan and it gets hot so I turn on the fan.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Is he a troll, or a sock?

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:52 PM

I was at the hospital all day, so what did I miss?

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Sorry, Oscar, I’ve only been here a short time myself.

I hope everything went well with your brother.

jaime on May 30, 2014 at 8:53 PM

No kidding…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

+2

KCB on May 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

But, then again, it was spinal surgery, so that is to be expected.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

What kind of spinal surgery?

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

B9???

KCB on May 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

I was at the hospital all day, so what did I miss?

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Sorry, Oscar, I’ve only been here a short time myself.

I hope everything went well with your brother.

jaime on May 30, 2014 at 8:53 PM

At the moment it looks like everything went the way it was suppose to, we’ll know for sure in a few days to weeks. Thank you.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Let’s not rehash that here, please.

cozmo on May 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

No kidding…

OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Yet we had best realize that “Mistakes were made”, “Censure and move on”, “It’s only about ______” and “What difference now does it make?” have gotten us to this point and realize it soon.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I’m not sure about brainshit, but law starts when men choose to live amongst men without constant battle for a chicken leg. Also, ‘no’ on the commitee thing? I’m reminded of the blind men describing an elephant. I am a solopsist after all.

DemetriusPhalerum on May 30, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 30, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Guess we need one for Sparky too…

Barred on May 30, 2014 at 8:55 PM

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

What kind of spinal surgery?

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

He had two compressed and degenerating disc’s that had to be repaired.

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:55 PM

If they can get a warrant to storm the place they probably can to bug the place. A simple bug on a windowpane or infrared surveillance camera to detect warm bodies inside the structure or any of a wide variety of other passive technology.

That’s too much work for the thugs. Their motto: “less thinking, more excitement”

Instead we’re moving rapidly towards what A Clockwork Orange called the “old ultraviolence” hence my alluding to Janet Reno’s patented I’ll Huff and Puff and Burn You and Your Place Down approach.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

I agree.

non-nonpartisan on May 30, 2014 at 8:55 PM

wonder where Koch sucka is? OmahaConservative on May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

He parties with his cat on Friday.

wolly4321 on May 30, 2014 at 8:56 PM

At the moment it looks like everything went the way it was suppose to

oscarwilde on May 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

That’s always encouraging. I’m happy to hear it.

jaime on May 30, 2014 at 8:56 PM

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