Breaking: Obama to speak after Shinseki meeting; Update: Shinseki out

posted at 11:17 am on May 30, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

At first, I assumed that a lack of leaks during the first part of the Eric Shinseki meeting meant that the embattled VA Secretary would keep his job, especially since the White House hadn’t scheduled a presser to follow it. That’s changed, though, with the sudden call to the Briefing Room. Obama will speak shortly, and CBS News already has the live feed running:

And… Shinseki’s out:

Update: Sloan Gibson will take over as interim VA Secretary, but the bigger question will be for Obama. Why not make this change last week, instead of waiting nine extra days to hear the obvious? Why hold last week’s presser?

Update: First question was about what happened to Obama’s confidence in Shinseki, expressed just last week? “Ric’s judgment,” apparently meaning that Obama didn’t ask for his resignation.

Update: “We’ve got to deal with Congress,” Obama said to explain that Shinseki would likely be distracted by Congressional demands for his resignation. This is the same Congress that increased the VA budget by 78% over the past six budget cycles.  Shinseki was also “offended” that bad news didn’t get to him fast enough, Obama said, and used the passive voice to explain that “the structures didn’t exist” to deliver it. Er, Shinseki was in charge for more than five years. Whose fault was that?

Update: Obama, when asked about his own responsibility, notes that he’s been talking about since he was in the Senate, but then denied that warnings about wait-list fraud never reached the executive level at the VA or the White House. The transition team was warned before Obama took office about that very problem, and warnings continued through last year.

Raffi Williams makes a good point:

After five-plus years, ignorance of the problems on which Obama ran for President in 2008 is a particularly cynical excuse.

Update: Reason’s Jesse Walker makes a good point:

Update: Presser over, but Obama left the dais as the White House press corps asked him, “Do you owe an apology?” That’s a pretty good question, as opposed to the final question which asked Obama whether Shinseki was getting scapegoated.


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Guess he needed to “sleep on it” for nine days before making this gutsy call.

jdpaz on May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM

What a marvelous magician–the VA scandal rabbit has disappeared–if you believe in magic.

Don L on May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM

He hasn’t read the section of the newspaper yet where it’ll tell him that he campaigned on this.

Bitter Clinger on May 30, 2014 at 11:39 AM

The comics and sports sections generally don’t include that kind of story. Which is why, most times, nobody is madder than Obama.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Zero couldn’t bring himself to fire Shinseki, because that would mean he made a mistake in hiring him in the first place.

And everyone knows zero never makes mistakes.

rick_blaines_forehead on May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Part of the problem is that the VA gives healthcare to veterans who were not injured in combat. There’s no reason that the government should provide healthcare for retired or other vets who weren’t injured in combat.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:33 AM

True. But they are being seen for service connected disabilities. If the service-member received an injury while in the serving, they are seen for life through the VA. If your percentage is over a certain percentage, you can go to the VA for all of your care.

As for the retired military members, that is why they served fir so long, to get that coverage. They put in the time, they get the coverage. It is the same as working for a company in the private sector.

Patriot Vet on May 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Well,…somebody won the Resignation Pool,…haha!!

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Once again: “Nice Job Brownie er, Shinseki.”

Don L on May 30, 2014 at 11:43 AM

The balls on this guy, suggesting he and Shinseki didn’t know about the problems right after saying he was aware of them as senator. BS.

changer1701 on May 30, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Barky knew all about the delays and other problems at the VA in 2007, but then when he was elected president, he forgot. And he didn’t know about them again until he read about them in the papers just a few days ago.

And if you don’t understand that, then clearly you’re just a raaaaaacist!

AZCoyote on May 30, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Veterans Affairs hospitals secret waiting lists allegations
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Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.: ‘I honor Gen. Shinseki’s service and support his decision to go. Now we must focus on fixing VA. Our veterans deserve our best efforts’ – @MarkWarner

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Ogabe is so angry that Moochelle had ten servings of lobster for breakfast instead of the usual six.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 11:44 AM

So, while Shinseki and Obama are incompetent – though to be fair government run healthcare can’t be made to work – at least Shinseki has some minimal sense of responsibility and resigned.

And Obama continues to prove that the lefty vision of government solutions is a completely unworkable and sick joke. Good job Obama.

gwelf on May 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 5s

At the same time, Pres Obama was full of praise and gratitude for Shinseki’s service and commitment to the nation’s veterans.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 10s

Pres Obama said he agreed Shinseki would be a “distraction” if he stayed in the job – and so accepted his resignation with reget.

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Has Corrine Brown come out with a comment? I thought everything was fine with the VA in Florida. She should be outraged that Shinseki has been fired.

And if anybody thinks that Shinseki decided to resign over concern that he would be a distraction to fixing the problems, well then they are an idiot.

Shinseki was probably shown into a room in the White House with a letter and a pen sitting on the desk.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM

You mean he found out about the resignation before the press?
See! Already he’s making progress to resolve the issue.

chuckfinlay on May 30, 2014 at 11:46 AM

And, let us never forget…..just last week this was an isolated incident!!!

Right Lois? #IRS

Rovin on May 30, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.: ‘I honor Gen. Shinseki’s service and support his decision to go. Now we must focus on fixing VA. Our veterans deserve our best efforts’ – @MarkWarner

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Unspoken was the point that the bastard only cares about vets when he is in a tight race for reelection.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 11:47 AM

MYSTERIES STILL EXIST AT THE VA

Who did all that “unacceptable” stuff?

Why did know one find out about the “unacceptable” stuff until CNN did a report?

Shinseki started the “process” to fire the Phoenix VA administrators. Why not just fire them effective immediately?

and on and on and on!

So far, we have heard layer upon layer of lies about the VA administration. Expect the media to move on, the lies to continue, and no real changes to the VA administration.

All sadly predictable.

pilsener on May 30, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 11s

Correction: RNC/@Reince did NOT call for Shinseki’s. called for independent investigation

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Lie King of All Time.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM

What a marvelous magician–the VA scandal rabbit has disappeared–if you believe in magic.

Don L on May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Shinseki said the VA problems were systemic.

And he’s right about that. But the problem with Shinseki is that he did nothing to change the system, or even to bring public attention to the problems within the system. And his replacement won’t either. Because changing the system means upsetting two groups that reliably vote Democrat: federal employees, and unions.

AZCoyote on May 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Part of the problem is that the VA gives healthcare to veterans who were not injured in combat. There’s no reason that the government should provide healthcare for retired or other vets who weren’t injured in combat.

jimbo on May 30, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Total ignorance of how the military works duly noted.

Not all service-related physical injuries or ailments are caused by being “in combat.”

In fact, under Democrat pResident Bill Clinton, more service members died in non-combat (training accidents, etc) than were killed in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

F-

Del Dolemonte on May 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Obama’s a racist for firing a minority.

Shinseki should call in EEOC and sue. His boss (Pres Ratears) told him last week he was doing great.

I hope he has the pres lots of notes in the personnel file on Shinseki. LOL

txdoc on May 30, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 11s

Correction: RNC/@Reince did NOT call for Shinseki’s. called for independent investigation

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:49 AM

As for the retired military members, that is why they served fir so long, to get that coverage. They put in the time, they get the coverage. It is the same as working for a company in the private sector.

Patriot Vet on May 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Yeah, except for those bullets, bombs, and IEDs which most secretaries, teachers, and factory workers don’t have to deal with.

Don L on May 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM

David M. Drucker @DavidMDrucker · 8s

House VA Chair Miller just told reporters his cmte’s investigation would only “accelerate” – Shiseki’s resignation good step but not end.

https://twitter.com/DavidMDrucker

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Next, Obama will assemble his minions and hand out the media scripts.

The new mainstream media talking point will be how Obama deftly handled this ‘REAL” scandal, while disregarding the ‘phony’politically driven scandals like IRS, NSA, fast/furious,Bengazi, et al.

Cavalry on May 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM

POTUS had not met with Shinseki for almost 2 years before last week…? So, Shinseki doesn’t play golf?

d1carter on May 30, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Apparently Sleazy Eric Holder refused to do one of his fake investigations to find nothing…

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Boehner is next, on the batting deck:

Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 8s

House @SpeakerBoehner will give an on-camera statement on VA Sec Shinseki’s resignation at 12:45pm

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM

A stopped clock is right twice a day–Obama has been right twice in his presidency. 1 NOT getting involved in Syria and 2. What amounts to firing Shinseki (although techically called a “resignation”).

MaiDee on May 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM

And all those vets on the death panel lists got their doctor appointments for their care now?

kozanne on May 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Press corps finally asking questions… holy cow

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM

I don’t get, and also resent, how people are all on the “we need government for everything!” bandwagon and don’t get all bent out of shape (or worse, make up excuses) when stuff like this happens and the people in charge for over five years complain that there was no infrastructure to report these problems (not to mention these problems are criminal…imagine the outcry some company withheld a recall on something laced with lead and knew about it and people died, people would be foaming at the mouth).

Most people would demand results and good performance in their day-to-day lives. They would not excuse a “big evil corporation” with incompetence and maleficence. They also would not believe the man in charge with his cries of “I had no idea what was going on!”. They would call him an idiot and demand his removal. I’m thinking more of Shinseki with that, what the hell was he doing with all the increase in budget if quality got worse?

But for Obama, if he ran on it, shouldn’t he be keeping tabs? Does he know what is going on in his own administration? Is every agency autonomous and running independent of his oversight? (Tell me, would Amazon, or any private corporation run well if the CEO never participated?) WaPo, NYT, and Wall Street journal have been in a rare agreement about having a “President Obama Problem”, too bad we didn’t do something about that in 2012.

Starnick on May 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM

As for the retired military members, that is why they served fir so long, to get that coverage. They put in the time, they get the coverage. It is the same as working for a company in the private sector.

Patriot Vet on May 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Yeah, except for those bullets, bombs, and IEDs which most secretaries, teachers, and factory workers don’t have to deal with.

Almost no one in the private sector gets retiree healthcare any more. No reason to give the military and government workers better coverage.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Libtards/LIV’s/Media…..”So the VA problems are all fixed then…moving on”.

HumpBot Salvation on May 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Best thing the GOP can do now, politically and for the vets, is up the ante. Demand of Obama more firings, investigations, and changes in the system (I’d go for abolition myself).

Most of us understand that nothing really is going to change until the regime changes. But the GOP could exact a much greater political price from these incompetents. Steal a few pages from the Democratic playbook and start the nonstop Sunday talk show railing against the Democrat “culture of corruption.” And why hasn’t even one of them pointed out that the VA is Obamacare writ large for all of us?

de rigueur on May 30, 2014 at 11:38 AM

The firings now will be the new set of eyes from the new guy ‘he’ put there. All that will now look great politically for Jugears. The GOP should have been talking louder as you said on the talk shows before, putting the pressure on. All they did was sit on their hands.

If they abolished it right now, the vets would be put on the Ocare doles. I’m not sure how much of an upgrade that would be. After that law is gone, then it would be an idea to entertain. The VA is exactly like Ocare. Why not one news program or GOP member hasn’t mentioned/said it is astounding. Have they all lost their ba!!s and fight? WTF?

Patriot Vet on May 30, 2014 at 11:54 AM

A stopped clock is right twice a day–Obama has been right twice in his presidency. 1 NOT getting involved in Syria and 2. What amounts to firing Shinseki (although techically called a “resignation”).

MaiDee on May 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Unfortunately, as others have said, Obama is a broken digital clock.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 11:54 AM

True. But they are being seen for service connected disabilities. If the service-member received an injury while in the serving, they are seen for life through the VA. If your percentage is over a certain percentage, you can go to the VA for all of your care.

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Patriot Vet on May 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Why should they get coverage for anything not directly related to their service injuries?

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Almost no one in the private sector gets retiree healthcare any more. No reason to give the military and government workers better coverage.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM

And no reason to give union workers, firefighters, police or town clerks better coverage under retirement either. Amiright?

HumpBot Salvation on May 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Well,…somebody won the Resignation Pool,…haha!!

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

It wasn’t me. I picked 4 pm.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Total ignorance of how the military works duly noted.

Not all service-related physical injuries or ailments are caused by being “in combat.”

In fact, under Democrat pResident Bill Clinton, more service members died in non-combat (training accidents, etc) than were killed in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

F-

Del Dolemonte on May 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM

I’m fine with covering non-combat training accidents or similar items. I’m not fine with giving lifetime coverage to someone in a support function who got a paper cut.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Almost no one in the private sector gets retiree healthcare any more. No reason to give the military and government workers better coverage.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM

And no reason to give union workers, firefighters, police or town clerks better coverage under retirement either. Amiright?

HumpBot Salvation on May 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Yes, unless it’s negotiated in the union contract. And the military is not unionized.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM

“I cannot explain the lack of integrity among some of the leaders of our health care facilities,” he said. “This is something I rarely encountered during 38 years in uniform”.

I think this quote from Shinseki is telling, In the military as a leader when he said to get something done it would ussually happen, crap a lot of people take a casual comment from their Commander as gospel. I think he was in a different kind of machine with the VA. He probably thought things were getting done and done correctly because he told someone to. But as Reagan said “trust, but verify.” And he didn’t have a leader above him making sure things wee getting done, hell he4 didn’t have a leader at all.

Sven on May 30, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Sven on May 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Shinseki was probably shown into a room in the White House with a letter and a pen sitting on the desk.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM

When I was a kid, I read in the Washington Post how Nixon made all of his cabinet secretaries submit signed, but undated, letters of resignation to him as a condition of getting the nomination, so that Nixon would have the letters ready to release to the media in the event any of the cabinet secretaries should later displease him with their job performance.

Don’t know if it was true or not, but it seemed like a smart thing to do. No need to have any messy firings — it was always the secretary’s decision to quit!

AZCoyote on May 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM

First question was about what happened to Obama’s confidence in Shinseki,

Racist.

Obama, when asked about his own responsibility,

Racist.

Raffi Williams makes a good point “He knew about this when he was in the Senate but still did nothing, another broken promise”

Racist.

Obama left the dais as the White House press corps asked him, “Do you owe an apology?”

Racists.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM

And all those vets on the death panel lists got their doctor appointments for their care now?

kozanne on May 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM

I may have posted about this a few days ago when upon Tuesday or Wednesday I noticed an editorial cartoon:

Drawing of a Memorial Day grave marker with flag and VA rep standing by the grave saying: “Your medical appointment is next Tuesday.”

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Yeah, except for those bullets, bombs, and IEDs which most secretaries, teachers, and factory workers don’t have to deal with.

Don L on May 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM

I was talking about the nature of serving a full twenty and receiving healthcare coverage, not of herring injured and receiving care.

Patriot Vet on May 30, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Oh Sh*t:

Jake Tapper @jaketapper · 1m

From @CIRonline in march 2013 http://cironline.org/reports/vas-ability-quickly-provide-benefits-plummets-under-obama-4241
==================================================================

VA’s ability to quickly provide benefits plummets under Obama
Mar 11, 2013
************

The Department of Veterans Affairs has failed to provide key information to Congress and the public that shows the agency’s ability to quickly provide service-related benefits has virtually collapsed under President Barack Obama.

Internal VA documents, obtained by the Center for Investigative Reporting and authenticated by the agency, reveal that delays newly returning veterans face before receiving disability compensation and other benefits are far longer than the agency has publicly acknowledged. The documents also offer insight into some of the reasons for those delays.

The agency tracks and widely reports the average wait time: 273 days. But the internal data indicates that veterans filing their first claim, including those who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, wait nearly two months longer, between 316 and 327 days. Those filing for the first time in America’s major population centers wait up to twice as long – 642 days in New York, 619 days in Los Angeles and 542 days in Chicago.

The ranks of veterans waiting more than a year for their benefits grew from 11,000 in 2009, the first year of Obama’s presidency, to 245,000 in December – an increase of more than 2,000 percent.

As a candidate, Obama had promised to revamp a “broken VA bureaucracy,” but the documents reveal that many of the administration’s attempts – including efforts to boost staffing and computerize claims processing – have fallen apart in the implementation. Calls to the White House press office were not returned.(More….)
===================

http://cironline.org/reports/vas-ability-quickly-provide-benefits-plummets-under-obama-4241

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Obama: “A few minutes ago Sec Shinseki offered me his own resignation.”

“His own resignation” … as opposed to what? Another example of the Hah-vahd Law Review Pet’s Precedent’s awful English.

As to Shinseki’s resignation … what difference will this make in anything? SO he resigned? Great. What about criminal culpability for all the lies and illegal deceptions that have been going on at the VA for all these years, especially in light of the same turds having un-Constitutionally taken control of the whole of the health care industry?

Who cares if Shinseki wants to run home and bury his face in his bed? I want some heads to roll. Literally. And, as usual with this gang of America-hating retards, it goes all the way to the top, to their third world, dog-eating, 84 IQ, sackOS, retarded Sukarno clone.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM

With considerable regret, I accepted.”

That’s because you’re a freaking moron who couldn’t fire the guy even when all of reality came crashing down on you.

Free Indeed on May 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Representative Steve Israel, who also serves as Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman, explained that while Shinseki’s resignation is probably necessary, it ultimately won’t solve the problems at the VA.

“There are too many of my colleagues who are just saying that that resignation is going to solve the problem — it’s not going to solve the problem,” he said. “What’s going to solve the problem is a criminal investigation, with or without his resignation, and getting to the roots of this to make sure that it’s solved and never happens again.”

Resist We Much on May 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM

A lot of that is what’s called “pre-existing conditions”.

And “retirees” from the military are generally about 38 years old and older, so not the same kind of retiree. They have at least 20 years of good work left before full retirement and Medicare. Depending on where they are, they may have to use employer based insurance, and they might not insure for some of these things. Hence, the VA.

In any case, the VA is not just for retirees – it’s for all service-connected disabilities and issues for anyone who served honorably.

Buck Farky on May 30, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Mainstream presstitutes: “Obammy sure is a man of action, ain’t he? Just look (while I swoon) at how leaderly he handled this scandal that is now over…”

Makes me gag. Shinseki at least, finally, has displayed the honor I expected from any public leader.

DublOh7 on May 30, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Well,…somebody won the Resignation Pool,…haha!!

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

It wasn’t me. I picked 4 pm.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Just tell everyone you are in London and you win!

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Yes, unless it’s negotiated in the union contract. And the military is not unionized.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM

The point was to provide service-connected medical care to those who served their country honorably. Kind of a nice “thank you” for putting oneself in harm’s way for the country.

Bitter Clinger on May 30, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 32s

I’m deleting that earlier incorrect tweet to prevent it spreading. RNC did NOT call for Shinseki’s resignation.

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 1m

RT @CraigCaplan: Sloan Gibson was confirmed by Senate as VA Deputy Secretary on Feb 11,2014 by voice vote http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4499610 @cspan

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canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:02 PM

SpeakerBoehner will give an on-camera statement on VA Sec Shinseki’s resignation at 12:45pm

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Well, lets hope he has formed an opinion on Shinseki by then.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 12:02 PM

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 28s

.@JoeKleinTIME on The Next VA Secretary http://time.com/2798425/the-next-va-secretary/

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Where’s POTUS playing golf this weekend…?

d1carter on May 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM

SpeakerBoehner will give an on-camera statement on VA Sec Shinseki’s resignation at 12:45pm

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Well, lets hope he has formed an opinion on Shinseki by then.

LOL

sandee on May 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM

What Leadership The President Showed Today
-Tingles

Aggressive Move By President…..Need More Money
-Msdnc Hack

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 12:05 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Well, lets hope he has formed an opinion on Shinseki by then.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Happy Nomad: Gawd,..I hope he doesn’t tear up,..(sarc):)

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Folks were awarded bonuses for juggling and delaying diagnosis and treatment. It occurred throughout the VA. Shouldn’t there be RICO implications with punishments such as loss of pensions, prison, etc.?

Fixing the problems is necessary. Prosecuting the promoters and participants is just as necessary.

DanMan on May 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM

What Leadership The President Showed Today
-Tingles

Aggressive Move By President…..Need More Money
-Msdnc Hack

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 12:05 PM

cmsinaz: Thats about it CMS–:)

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM

What I’d really like to see is some resignations—or at least a little contrition—from the people who held up the VA as a health-care model.

— Jesse Walker (@notjessewalker) May 30, 2014

And that’s exactly why nothing has been done about the VA in 5 years. The WH didn’t want people finding out how poorly run the VA health-care really is.

sadatoni on May 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Another ‘show’ by Obama to look ‘presidential’ and to seem on top of things when he is not. Shinseki was incompetent for being unable to make changes since he’s been there, or for failing to recognize the issues at hand. However the reality is that the problems at the VA have been going on for far longer than he’s been in charge. The feign outrage that everyone from Obama to McCain and the other senators are showing is hypocritical at best and complicit at worst for looking the other way for so many years.

ptcamn on May 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Don’t know if it was true or not, but it seemed like a smart thing to do. No need to have any messy firings — it was always the secretary’s decision to quit!

AZCoyote on May 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Shinseki was given two options resign or be fired. Think of it as walking into the Oval Office and finding a table with a gun on it and another table with a pen. Obama says he’s going to step out a minute for a smoke but knows that Shinseki knows what to do. I speak figuratively, of course, but Shinseki was called to the White House and essentially asked how he wanted to leave his job.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Corrine Brown tapped to replace him in 5 .. 4 .. 3 …

ShainS on May 30, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Weasel Boehner will probably blame the Tea Party.

viking01 on May 30, 2014 at 12:08 PM

It’s about damn time. One down, and just Boehner, Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Durbin, Cantor, and Teh Won to go.

#BuckFarack

Nutstuyu on May 30, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Will “Ric” get his pension and retirement and life time health care and become a lobbyist now?

/Punishment – ObamaStyle

Key West Reader on May 30, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Shinseki is out?…Shinsecki is OUT?

portlandon on May 30, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Toast.

BuckeyeSam on May 30, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Think Chicago…

pain train on May 30, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Shinseki was incompetent for being unable to make changes since he’s been there, or for failing to recognize the issues at hand.

ptcamn on May 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Bull. Shinseki was fired for making the rat-eared wonder look bad. Obama doesn’t care about competence or reform or the vets killed by the VA system. But Shinseki embarrassed the king and that just can’t be forgiven.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Gawd, this ended like an abortion for the an unengaged president.

jake49 on May 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM

However the reality is that the problems at the VA have been going on for far longer than he’s been in charge.

ptcamn on May 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM

The difference is that Barky and his junta have, during this time, taken control of the whole health care industry and have pointed to the VA as evidence that they should be in charge of everything. This is all the difference in the world.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

It wasn’t me. I picked 4 pm.

crankyoldlady on May 30, 2014 at 11:56 AM

crankyoldlady:You were close tho,.. ya,I picked yesterday!:)

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM

:}

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Why should they get coverage for anything not directly related to their service injuries?

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM

They are being seen for that specific injury/ailment and nothing more if their service raring is below a certain percentage. Nothing more. The military has said, after a rater goes through their record, that the military is responsible for the injury and has to take care of that injury for life.

If the service-members percentage is over I believe it is 40%, they can be seen at the VA for any injury/ailment even if it isn’t service connected. So if they get sick after they get out, the VA will see them for it. They still may have to pay for some of the care, but not all of it. I still had to pay a portion for my medication for an ailment that I got after I got out and went to the VA for. It wasn’t service connected. I am 40% disabled through my service.

If you think that after giving twenty years of service in exchange for healthcare, write your congressman and tell them it is too much and they should be put not the Ocare exchanges.

Patriot Vet on May 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Happy Nomad: Gawd,..I hope he doesn’t tear up,..(sarc):)

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:06 PM

LOL! My expectations are set a little lower. I just hope that whatever he says doesn’t come out sounding blatantly political.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Key West Reader on May 30, 2014 at 12:09 PM

natch

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Not at all surprised. When your gross incompetence makes the gross incompetent god-king look even more incompetent than usual, under the bus with you!

ConstantineXI on May 30, 2014 at 12:12 PM

wolfie must be going ballistic

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

Dellinger says VA’s problem “never just about a few of the top leaders,” but about the need to “weed out the incompetence and corruption.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

“It is not the solution, yet it is a beginning,” says American Legion National Commander Daniel Dellinger of Shinseki’s resignation.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 44s

Left unanswered: if the VA defies management by a Secretary who was a four-star General, can it be successfully run by anyone?

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:13 PM


Pelosium:

Veterans Affairs hospitals secret waiting lists allegations
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif: ‘The departure of Secretary Shinseki will not solve the systemic challenges within the VA’ – @jbendery
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM

If you think that after giving twenty years of service in exchange for healthcare, write your congressman and tell them it is too much and they should be put not the Ocare exchanges.

Patriot Vet on May 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Thanks for the explanation.

I think we should now stop promising retiree healthcare for uninjured soldiers with 20+ year service, Patriot Vet. Almost no current employee in the private sector gets it anymore.

I am going to write my Congressman. But he’s a Vet and will tell me to go stuff myself.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Shinsekis’s problem is that he really did nothing to fix the ‘systemic’ problems at the VA. There needs to be a lot more heads rolling, as a minimum at the facilities where the problems have been highlighted this past month. There is more, lots more.

TerryW on May 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

Dellinger says VA’s problem “never just about a few of the top leaders,” but about the need to “weed out the incompetence and corruption.”

The underlying problem at the VA is the same exact underlying problem infecting the entirety of the Federal Government bureaucracy.

But no one will dare point that out, as it serves as an indictment of the “big government can do everything” mantra.

Meople on May 30, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Could someone explain something to me? I have always heard the VA medical is a nightmare…forever. My Dad was a vet and never considered going to the VA for medical reasons

So, why all of the hoopla now? I’m confused

Redford on May 30, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Let me clarify something: Almost no salaried private sector employees get retiree healthcare anymore. It still is part of some union contracts.

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 12:20 PM

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif: ‘The departure of Secretary Shinseki will not solve the systemic challenges within the VA’ – @jbendery
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM

we need to give the agency more money…thats the ticket

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 12:21 PM

The Associated Press @AP · 26s

VIDEO: President Obama announces he has accepted Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki’s resignation: http://apne.ws/1oCVS7o

Obama: VA Secretary Shinseki Resigning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmHWkaSaUAY

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM

What difference at this point does it make??????

redguy on May 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM

jim56 on May 30, 2014 at 12:16 PM

That’s a different pot of money, not related to the VA.

Buck Farky on May 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I heard that obama was also blaming old computers

ConservativePartyNow on May 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM

we need to give the agency more money…thats the ticket

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 12:21 PM

cmsinaz: And,…..get Nancy to use her Broom to sweep out
Democrat Corruption!:)

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Shinsekis’s problem is that he really did nothing to fix the ‘systemic’ problems at the VA. There needs to be a lot more heads rolling, as a minimum at the facilities where the problems have been highlighted this past month. There is more, lots more.

TerryW on May 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Shinseki made the systemic problems worse when he incentivized wait times less than 14 days. In other words, he gave VA facilities the motivation to create unofficial wait lists. People need to be going to jail for what they have done.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif: ‘The departure of Secretary Shinseki will not solve the systemic challenges within the VA’ – @jbendery
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM

So much for GOP pusillanimity: “If we insist that Obama fire Shinseki, that will just let him sweep everything under the rug.”

Even ex-Speaker Pelosi knew better than current Speaker Boehner.

de rigueur on May 30, 2014 at 12:25 PM

those darn old VA computers

obama places the blame appropriately
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more money now!

cmsinaz on May 30, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Pelosium:

Veterans Affairs hospitals secret waiting lists allegations
46s
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif: ‘The departure of Secretary Shinseki will not solve the systemic challenges within the VA’ – @jbendery
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM

LoL, I like this. No, the “systemic challenges” won’t be solved until America stops electing people like YOU that have enabled and directly contributed to the atmosphere that led to the “challenges” in the first place.

Meople on May 30, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Let’s try that again:

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif: ‘The departure of Secretary Shinseki will not solve the systemic challenges within the VA’ – @jbendery

see original on twitter.com

canopfor on May 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM

So much for GOP pusillanimity: “If we insist that Obama fire Shinseki, that will just let him sweep everything under the rug.”

Even ex-Speaker Pelosi knew better than current Speaker Boehner.

de rigueur on May 30, 2014 at 12:25 PM

de rigueur on May 30, 2014 at 12:26 PM

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