Boehner: I will continue to reserve judgment on Shinseki for some reason

posted at 12:41 pm on May 29, 2014 by Allahpundit

Three weeks ago he said he wasn’t ready to call for Shinseki’s firing. Last week he said he was getting closer — but still not ready. Today, after that brutal IG report sent Democrats scurrying on the Hill, he’s finally … still not ready.

What am I missing here?

“I’m going to continue to reserve judgment on General Shinseki,” Boehner told reporters Thursday. “The question I ask myself is, ‘Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem? Is it going to help us find out what is really going on?’ And the answer I keep getting is no.”

Boehner added that President Barack Obama should be held accountable for problems at the veterans organization.

“The president is going to have to step up here and show some real leadership,” he added.

Obviously there’s a political strategy at work here. Er, what is it? A “Shinseki must go” statement from the Speaker isn’t going to drown out damaging coverage of the IG’s findings and panicked Democratic reaction to it. Given how many Dems have already jumped ship, there’s no risk of the media turning this into some sort of partisan battle over the VA head either. Maybe Boehner feels that it’s risky to be too harshly critical of a general when your base is as pro-military as the GOP’s is, but that doesn’t make sense either: The victims of Shinseki’s and Obama’s negligence are American soldiers. Righteous outrage on their behalf, even at the expense of a former commander, won’t alienate any Republicans. I could understand if Boehner refused to demand Shinseki’s ouster in order to make a point about the VA system as a whole, i.e. that rationed care and endless wait times are inevitable in a system of socialized medicine and that no manager, be it Shinseki or his replacement, will fix that. But that’s not what Boehner’s saying. (If it was, why did he say he was getting closer to calling for Shinseki’s termination last week?) He seems to think there is a potential solution here if only Obama would show some “leadership.” There isn’t. The VA will remain a disaster because it’s the VA, not because The One’s a screw-up.

Maybe he’s afraid that focusing too much on Shinseki will let O fade into the background on this? That doesn’t make sense either. Shinseki is his handpicked VA administrator; if Obama’s forced to fire him, it’s a powerful admission that he’s made poor personnel decisions. Why do you think so many conservatives were eager to see Sebelius fired?

Just as I’m writing this, news is breaking that Mark Warner — another purple-state Democrat facing a tough reelection campaign this fall — has called for Shinseki’s resignation. (Imagine how painful it is for lefties to see Democrats turning on the man who became famous for questioning the “light footprint” occupation strategy in Iraq.) I’m not worried that voters will perceive Dems as being more proactive on VA reform than the GOP given that all of this is happening on a Democratic president’s watch, but Republican leaders are leaving easy political currency on the table here by not speaking up more.


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He’s right for once. The Dems want to make him the fall guy to protect Obama. See, we fired him, now all is well… End of story…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Boehner is always an obama-excusing moron.

Ezekiel Jonathan “Zeke” Emanuel to replace Shitseki

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:44 PM

“Is him his resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem?”

C’mon, Bonehead, get it right. Here, resigning is a gerund, so use the possessive case. You must be hanging around Corrine Brown too much.

BuckeyeSam on May 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Sure – fire Shinseki – big deal – what does that solve?

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

It’s by design.

Bigbullets on May 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

obama and all under him, in regards to the VA, need to be in prison for what happened.

It’s not a matter of Shitseki retiring. He’s on leave now.

This is ALL on obama. Period.

The funds were doubled, to every penny obama asked for. What happened is criminal. Holder is a thug and azzhole, not the top prosecutor of the land.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

The Dems want to make him the fall guy to protect Obama. See, we fired him, now all is well… End of story…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Shinseki SHOULD be fired. He has been horrible for the VA, and it was under his watch that this happened. Should Obama get some heat- sure, but Shinseki should be fired. Boehner being wishy washy about it just cements my feeling- that his last name may be pronounced “boner” but he has no ballz.

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

pu$$y

ReaganWasRight on May 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Great … as if anything would happen to Obama at this point, after all his lawlessness, were he filmed in bed with a live boy and dead girl.

Meanwhile, vets (and soon the rest of us) will continue to die prematurely …

ShainS on May 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Boehner: “Leaving aside this silly VA thing, I’ll tell you what really concerns me: We are not moving quickly enough on comprehensive immigration reform.”

BuckeyeSam on May 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

It’s by design.

Bigbullets on May 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Truest words typed on HA, for the second time, at least, today.

HA classic, Koch-brother.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

“Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem?”

Could also read.

“Is him retiring going to set us free of this problem?”

Bmore on May 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

obama and all under him, in regards to the VA, need to be in prison for what happened.

It’s not a matter of Shitseki retiring. He’s on leave now.

This is ALL on obama. Period.

The funds were doubled, to every penny obama asked for. What happened is criminal. Holder is a thug and azzhole, not the top prosecutor of the land.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

I agree…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Be careful – firing Shinseki is like killing Bin Laden

Too many think – “oh problem solved”

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

The VA needs a management turnaround specialist.

Seriously, how about Mitt Romney?

BuckeyeSam on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Sure – fire Shinseki – big deal – what does that solve?

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Why do you think he isn’t getting fired? If Obama actually fired someone; he would have to admit that he has a leadership failure. Note NO ONE has been fired from the administration for this very reason.

Shinseki sucks, and all of us associated with the Army knew he was a bad choice just from the idiot berets he changed the Army into, despite the berets having no utility purpose at all(can’t block the sun etc.)

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Be careful – firing Shinseki is like killing Bin Laden

Too many think – “oh problem solved”

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Yup…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Obviously there’s a political strategy at work here. Er, what is it?

Just more evidence that Boehner’s decision making capabilities are on a par with Obama’s. He’s a backroom kind of guy,..except when he’s making fun of conservative Republicans.

butch on May 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

How collegial and stuff. Thanks, John.

Don’t ever let the idea of standing up for a principle interfere with your enjoyment of the perks of power or your fundraising.

Cicero43 on May 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Seriously, how about Mitt Romney?

BuckeyeSam on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

or – Jack Welch,,,, knowing Jack would never take the job

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

“The question I ask myself is, ‘Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem? Is it going to help us find out what is really going on?’ And the answer I keep getting is no.”

It will keep Shin Shin from heading a department that is crumbling into ruin, a job for which he is particularly unsuited, that should be good enough.

Bonehead is just another political animal making political decisions based on political considerations, the dead veterans barely made a blip on his personal radar.

Bishop on May 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Boner’s just worried that forcefully demanding Shinseki’s resignation will make it harder for him and the rest of the Establishment to get the best amnesty deal possible for their crony capitalist pals.

Gator Country on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Shinseki sucks, and all of us associated with the Army knew he was a bad choice just from the idiot berets he changed the Army into, despite the berets having no utility purpose at all(can’t block the sun etc.)

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

That move was the beginning of the current PC-latrine the military services have become.

Btw, GWB promoted Shitseki, and then deserved that the general derided him.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

A veritable Beltway Bandits Band of Brothers.

Christien on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Obviously there’s a political strategy at work here. Er, what is it?

It’s called temporizing. What it isn’t, is leadership.

Shinseki should be fired because he’s incompetent. The VA investigations and firings should continue because the system is thoroughly corrupt and its administrative functionaries incompetent. Doing one doesn’t preclude the other.

Boehner should not be re-elected Speaker because he‘s incompetent, too.

de rigueur on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

In Japan Shitseki is persona non grata.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Be careful – firing Shinseki is like killing Bin Laden

Too many think – “oh problem solved”

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Yup…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

So, the alternative is to hold NO ONE accountable? I mean how do you propose to hold Obama accountable? We can’t even get a contempt charge enforced against Lerner.

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

The VA “death list” are just the tip of the crimes.

It is more like a “death march”, with thousands of vets being marched off to the bone pile via wasted tax money.

Next will be the “Obama Care Death List”, then the millions in the march.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM

That move was the beginning of the current PC-latrine the military services have become.

Btw, GWB promoted Shitseki, and then deserved that the general derided him.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

+1000

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM

So, the alternative is to hold NO ONE accountable? I mean how do you propose to hold Obama accountable? We can’t even get a contempt charge enforced against Lerner.

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Hey, I’m not in charge here… Talk to Holder…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Breaking this morning: In 2010 alone, 6.7 billion, not million, dollars were ‘mis-coded’ and paid out to dr. crooks and other crooks on Medicare fraud and wrong coding/charges.

Nothing will be done, because “it’s too expensive to fix it”.

I bet you anything that the Feinsteins are in there for several hundreds of millions and many crooks in DC are too, to the highest levels.

In many cases there were every other day drug tests done, by one doctor to 1.5 patients, an impossibility. Nothing will be followed up…wonder why? Stuffed pockets of politicians like Feinstein and her husband, who have defrauded Medicare by the hundreds of millions, under different company names.

Medicare is one of the biggest frauds in the land.

Good luck with obama’care’.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Shitseki makes obama appear tall, literally.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Be careful – firing Shinseki is like killing Bin Laden

Too many think – “oh problem solved”

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

It’s called accountability. Will firing the incompetent at the top fix everything? No. But what does that have to do with whether or not he should be fired?

They also need to fire the bulk of the management. Also accountability. I don’t think we’ll have problems hiring some new, more effective, non-scumbag types to fill the empty slots.

Free Indeed on May 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Shinseki represents “Change we CAN NO LONGER believe in.” Obama identified a BROKEN VA on the campaign trail in 2007. What has he or his point man, Shinseki done to fix it–other than squander MORE money on it? I think BOTH need to resign, but at a minimum–definitely Shinseki.

Armyspouse on May 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Start at the top, it will give the lower level peeps a message: “If we can fire him we can fire you, better come forward and start talking.”

Bishop on May 29, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Why diffuse the situation? Plus, its scapegoating.

It confirms that administrative incompetence is the root of the problem, not government run health care.

It presents a fix and lets Obama and the press move on.

They should use this an opportunity to privatize parts of the VA.

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Fire Shitseki, don’t fire him. What difference, at this point, does it make?

Harbingeing on May 29, 2014 at 12:53 PM

It’s quite apparent, neither Boehner nor Obama are real leaders. If Boehner were a leader, he’d understand the bringing new blood into the leadership would bring in fresh ideas to resolve the problems. Boehner just doesn’t understand you really have to solve problems every once in a while, not just kick them down the road because you have an election coming.

I hope, sincerely hope, the one thing that comes out of this next election is a new Speaker of the House.

bflat879 on May 29, 2014 at 12:53 PM

What a fluking squish…

thunderhorse on May 29, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Hey, Boehner, you boys should be arrested along with the White House gang.

crankyoldlady on May 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

its doublely nice to see
1..a politican being refusing to join the lynch mob and being reasonable instead (good job following president obamas example, mr speaker!)
2..boehner mucking up the repuglican message yet again. please keep this guy around forever! bwahaha!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Has he cried about it yet?

mankai on May 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

The VA needs a management turnaround specialist.

Seriously, how about Mitt Romney?

BuckeyeSam on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Even Mitt would only get so far. The unionistas will still have their jobs, still wat to maintain the status quo, and fight any attempts to make themselves accoutable.

Bitter Clinger on May 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

The msm by the cover up of these crimes are just as guilty or more so than the union thugs who hide the death list from U.S..

Welcome to the coast to coast reservation.

Your over lords of the Two Party Evil Money Cult see you as no more than tax payer ID numbers.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

“The question I ask myself is, ‘Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem? Is it going to help us find out what is really going on?’ And the answer I keep getting is no.”

And because I do not believe in Personal Accountability,
firing this man, would put a damper on me appointing a
“Committtee” to look into this VA problem….

..so as to never actually FIX the problem…..

Are we all clear on how this DC Club operates?? Good!

ToddPA on May 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Start at the top, it will give the lower level peeps a message: “If we can fire him we can fire you, better come forward and start talking.”

Bishop on May 29, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Bingo. Yes. Exactly.

The current message is… “Cover up. Carry on.”

As someone said up-thread, it’s deliberate.

de rigueur on May 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Yeah, I know when Grandma’s Basement boy agrees with Boehner; I am on the right side disagreeing with him.

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM

It makes a lot of sense to let this fester and not give Obama and the press a quick administrative fix and a reason to move on.

But some are so full of irrational hate, they cannot even see the obvious tactical advantages.

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Dead veterans are not the hill to die on … trust us.

/The RINO Brigade

ShainS on May 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Dung still running down hill.

Now it runs into our faces as it passes by U.S. A ll.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Well, first of all you can’t fix the VA without competition in the marketplace. So appointing a real live Competent would still not do the deal. It’s a failed system that no one can fix.

Second, leaving this guy in place is an absolute DISGRACE to the dead and live vets. This man IS incompetent. So it’s utterly disrespectful and even a mockery of justice to leave him in place after capping a 5-year failure with the worst speech anyone could even dream up. So I don’t know what kind of game John Boehner is playing, but our VETS deserve way better than any politician is offering right now.

LetsBfrank on May 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

The question I ask myself is, ‘Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem?

Why don’t you also ask yourself: “Is keeping Shinseki as head of the VA, where massive corruption and criminal incompetence has been going on under Shinseki’s nose for the past five years, going to make anything at the VA better?”

Boehner, you don’t have to keep proving to us that you’re a clueless idiot.

We’re already convinced.

AZCoyote on May 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

So, when senator Obama called for Alberto Gonzales to resign, was he part of a lynch mob?

mankai on May 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM

“The question I ask myself is, ‘Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem? Is it going to help us find out what is really going on?’ And the answer I keep getting is no.”

I guess I’m reading this wrong. Seems to me Boehner, who I am no fan of, thinks that firing Shinseki without all the facts would put an end to the investigation.

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM

So, the alternative is to hold NO ONE accountable?

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

I would bring Shinseki to testify – tell him he will make testimony every 2 weeks – before the cameras –

Make him accountable to the American people by forcing him to demonstrate a plan and action to that plan – every two weeks.

Firing him may only delay progress.

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 1:02 PM

I think Boehner is making the smart play here. Two notes:

1) Shinseki is toast one way or the other. Better that the D’s rise up to push him out the door than that anyone can say R’s did this out of partisan opportunism. Boehner “leading from behind” on this, as it were, will lead to the same result without it becoming a House vs Obama thing. POTUS vs Hill D’s is a much better scenario.
2) The problems at VA run much deeper than Shinseki. The sooner Shinseki is gone the sooner people can pretend the problems have been solved, when in reality the problems are inherent in the system (“come and see the violence inherent in the system!”)

Chuckles3 on May 29, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Truest words typed on HA, for the second time, at least, today.

HA classic, Koch-brother.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

It’s my pat response to everything.

And it almost always seems to apply.

Bigbullets on May 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM

A political tactic of standing on veteran’s corpses to score political points to no purpose; Dog Eater isn’t going anywhere and Killary isn’t directly involved.

Time to show some damn RESOLVE for once and drag these scumbags out by their eyelids, toss them on the street, and treat them like pariahs until they’re 6 feet under.

Bishop on May 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM

It makes a lot of sense to let this fester and not give Obama and the press a quick administrative fix and a reason to move on.

This is how I feel. Shinseki is guilty, but we really need to get to the bottom of this, not put a band aid on it and say all cured!

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

I guess I’m reading this wrong. Seems to me Boehner, who I am no fan of, thinks that firing Shinseki without all the facts would put an end to the investigation.

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM

You mean the investigation on Shinseki that’s being run by … Shinseki himself? We certainly can’t end that!

Gator Country on May 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

To HotAir moderators:

Can you please remove the Pic of Melissa
Harris Perry’s “Smarter” Aunt in the upper Left?

Thanks in advance.

ToddPA on May 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

its doublely nice to see
1..a politican being refusing to join the lynch mob and being reasonable instead (good job following president obamas example, mr speaker!)
2..boehner mucking up the repuglican message yet again. please keep this guy around forever! bwahaha!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

LOL that you thought Shinsinski was balck.

LOL that you thought Republicans had a message.

Looks like the jokes on you.

Bigbullets on May 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM

But of course

cmsinaz on May 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM

swamp_yankee

“Tactical Advantage” goes to the evil money cult in D.C. not U.S.!

“Tactical Advantage” went to the islamic ones of terror because of the rules of engagement the D.C. cult demanded.

“Tactical Advantage” went to the NVA because LBJ etal did bombing pauses and would not bomb or mine the shipping of the guns and ammo to the NVA.

“Tactical Advantage” goes to Obama because Bohener will not cut off the money to the commie Democrats and Obama.

Now we are cut off and no one is allowed to helo in and rescue U.S. because its just so mean to fight for real.

Boehner is a roll over.
Obama rolls him, Putin rolls Obama.

We get the full roll from them all.

Fight.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 29, 2014 at 1:06 PM

What am I missing here?

A coherent political strategy.

I actually agree that the firing of Shinseki allows the Obama administration to dodge accountability – new management, must give some time, full resources and support to get it right, we love our veterans, etc.

What’s missing is an argument from the Republican leadership. The VA is now a huge, glowing illustration of big government and big bureaucracy. IF the Republican party actually believes in limited government, the VA is a clear example of how metastasizing government forgets its core mission and focuses on a activities that are inimical to that mission.

pilsener on May 29, 2014 at 1:06 PM

2nd that Todd @1:04

cmsinaz on May 29, 2014 at 1:07 PM

pilsener on May 29, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Solid post – solid points

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 1:07 PM

What am I missing here?

That Boehner is 50 shades of orange idiot.

Happy Nomad on May 29, 2014 at 1:07 PM

I like the European tradition of public officials resigning when they or a subordinate really screw up.

And I like the Japanese tradition even better.

Akzed on May 29, 2014 at 1:08 PM

I think I would go before the camera’s and say:

“Shinseki – you will NOT RESIGN – you will stay and fix this, and you will report before Congress and the camera’s every two weeks”

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Its good to know that so many self-righteous conservatives have faith in good bureaucrats; The problem isn’t the system or government run health care, its that we need better bureaucrats.

Its also good to know that so many self-righteous conservatives want to help Obama and the MSM put this issue to bed. Remove him and it go away. Or we can let it fester, drain Obama’s popularity, expose the fallacy of government run health care, and get to the bottom of the real problems.

But some hateful dingbats truecons are so caught up in Boehner hate, they are too stupid to realize this

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

its doublely nice to see
1..a politican being refusing to join the lynch mob and being reasonable instead (good job following president obamas example, mr speaker!)
2..boehner mucking up the repuglican message yet again. please keep this guy around forever! bwahaha!

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Let me help you with that.

its = it’s

doublely = doubly

a politician being refusing = a politician refusing

obamas = Obama’s

mr = Mr.

And learn capitalization.

Grade: F. Class dismissed.

DisneyFan on May 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Its good to know that so many self-righteous conservatives have faith in good bureaucrats; The problem isn’t the system or government run health care, its that we need better bureaucrats.

Its also good to know that so many self-righteous conservatives want to help Obama and the MSM put this issue to bed. Remove him and it go away. Or we can let it fester, drain Obama’s popularity, expose the fallacy of government run health care, and get to the bottom of the real problems.

But some hateful dingbats truecons are so caught up in Boehner hate, they are too stupid to realize this

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

And that is how I see it too…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Sure – fire Shinseki – big deal – what does that solve?
jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Maybe his replacement would be more carefull seeing that getting sacked is at least a possibility. I hope this is helpful.

Akzed on May 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM

He’s right for once. The Dems want to make him the fall guy to protect Obama. See, we fired him, now all is well… End of story…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:43 PM

From the other VA thread this morning:

Over for Shitseki. Get out!

It’s interesting to see the Dems. in tight races become all caring for the Vets….

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:34 PM

o_O

ShainS on May 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Even Mitt would only get so far. The unionistas will still have their jobs, still wat to maintain the status quo, and fight any attempts to make themselves accoutable.

Bitter Clinger on May 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

It would be nice to watch Mitt bail out Obama the incompetent. Don’t forget, Mitt battled the dysfunction of the IOC to pull off the Salt Lake City games. Also, Dems would close their ears, but independents would likely listen to businessman Mitt assess the crippling effect of federal employees unions. I think the general public is fed up with these people making good coin, getting top-shelf medical benefits, getting a pension, and holding guaranteed employment–all with zero accountability.

BuckeyeSam on May 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Okay, Boehner.

How about a House Select Committee on VA?

freedomfirst on May 29, 2014 at 1:12 PM

A coherent political strategy.

I actually agree that the firing of Shinseki allows the Obama administration to dodge accountability – new management, must give some time, full resources and support to get it right, we love our veterans, etc.

What’s missing is an argument from the Republican leadership. The VA is now a huge, glowing illustration of big government and big bureaucracy. IF the Republican party actually believes in limited government, the VA is a clear example of how metastasizing government forgets its core mission and focuses on a activities that are inimical to that mission.

pilsener on May 29, 2014 at 1:06 PM

So why aren’t the Republican’s making that case?

I suspect there are political pitfalls to attacking the VA.

Bigbullets on May 29, 2014 at 1:12 PM

I hear Trey Gowdy is busy.

Who else is there?

freedomfirst on May 29, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Over for Shitseki. Get out!

It’s interesting to see the Dems. in tight races become all caring for the Vets….

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Nice try. I was answering the Over for Shinseki some one else put up…

sandee on May 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

But some hateful dingbats truecons are so caught up in Boehner hate, they are too stupid to realize this

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Good to see you’re open to differing opinions in a non-hateful way.

So how many times have you read Dale Carnegie’s book?

Bishop on May 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

This drunk is our leader in the House.

alanstern on May 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

swamp_yankee

Go and do not “enable” sin no more.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 29, 2014 at 1:14 PM

I dont know whats more confusing, Boehner, or people trying to figure out what Boehner’s “strategy” is. He is a dolt for crying out loud, he has never had a strategy.

Vigilante on May 29, 2014 at 1:14 PM

SURE Shinseki should have known what was going on within his V.A. Hospital system…SURE Shinseki was the head of the VA and responsible for ensuring the successful medical care of our Veterans…”But would firing Shinseki resolve this problem?”

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? What a ‘POLITICIAN’?!

‘Accountability’ – If Obama, Boehner, and McConnel had their way it would not exist anymore and would even be eliminated from the dictionary! Shinseki was a great General…but as has been revealed he is a LOUSY Manager / CEO! Over 100 Vets are DEAD on his watch. He was completely detatched from what was going on, had no knowledge of or control of what was going on. Should he be held accountable for all of that? INCOMPETENCE, IGNORANCE, LACK of CONTROL, FAILURE at a massive level agency / industry-wide, and hundreds of people DEAD? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!!

easyt65 on May 29, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Fire Shinseki and Boehner. And Cantor.

hachiban on May 29, 2014 at 1:15 PM

You mean the investigation on Shinseki that’s being run by … Shinseki himself? We certainly can’t end that!

Gator Country on May 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Well sure, at Nuremburg the Nazis were allowed to investigate themselves too.

In fact our entire legal system will now work this way, every perp will be his own judge and jury.

Bishop on May 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Be careful – firing Shinseki is like killing Bin Laden

Too many think – “oh problem solved”

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

It’s the chicken/egg thing. Firing Shinseki will not automatically solve the problems within the VA. But you can’t solve the problems at the VA with a worthless vet-killer bastard at the head of the organization.

Were this a military organization, the entire upper level of the command would be fired and the replacements would be given clear authority to kick ass and make things work right. But, of course, most of those committing the crimes within the VA are union employees and their managers career civil service or political appointees.

You can’t do what really needs to be done. But you can remove Shinseki who has zero credibility, integrity, or ability to oversee the changes that need to be made. His “bite me” attitude in front of the Senate says all that needs to be said about his concern over dead veterans at the hands of his organization.

Happy Nomad on May 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

I would bring Shinseki to testify – tell him he will make testimony every 2 weeks – before the cameras –

Make him accountable to the American people by forcing him to demonstrate a plan and action to that plan – every two weeks.

Firing him may only delay progress.

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Ahh, so you would slow progress, because the Department head that is SUPPOSE to be cleaning up the mess now has to testify every two weeks. I mean that won’t be exploited by the Dems by saying look at the Republicans obstructing reform to the VA?

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Carney, once more “obama is madder than hell over the VA”

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem?

NO!

But it will demonstrate to the Nomenclature Bureaucrats that you are Serious and mean business.
It will also announce to the next person in that position that doing nothing and talking is unacceptable.

This is why you need to be replaced as speaker, you are a wimp!

jaydee_007 on May 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

It makes a lot of sense to let this fester and not give Obama and the press a quick administrative fix and a reason to move on.

But some are so full of irrational hate, they cannot even see the obvious tactical advantages.

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Tactics:

1) Since you know that Obama will not heed Republican demands for anything, if you’re a putative GOP “leader” why not get out in front of this pile on with the running-scared Dems and get some credit for it? Why should they get all the credit for Shinseki’s inevitable-as-Sebelious departure?

2) Since you know that Obama being forced to fire Shinseki weakens him politically– but he’s forced to do so anyway, in part because of pressure from you (though, we’ll agree, not really from anyone in the GOP)– insist even more loudly that one firing is not enough. The entire system must be overhauled. This is classic Democrat strategy: make a demand, it’s met, make another demand because you’ve now got the initiative, it’s met again, keep making more demands. Wholesale firings, complete system overhaul, medical care vouchers to free vets from the system. Demand, demand, demand. People are outraged! Use it!

3) Continue the VA investigations. You think we’ve seen or heard the worst? That the media will just stop reporting and let Fox get all the exposes?

4) Use confirmation hearings for the new VA head to extract concessions and changes that you’re in no position to demand if you’re content with the status quo to “let it fester.” Which seems to be the only tactical response the GOP has to anything these days.

de rigueur on May 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM

You mean the investigation on Shinseki that’s being run by … Shinseki himself? We certainly can’t end that!

Gator Country on May 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

No, it’s worse. obama’s paper boy is investigating the hen house.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Fire Boehner instead….

d1carter on May 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM

But some hateful dingbats truecons are so caught up in Boehner hate, they are too stupid to realize this

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

And YOU are too stupid to realize that a differing opinion on whether or not a political strategy(and we will just have to disagree that Boehner has one) is SUBJECTIVE, and not objective data. I think you are too stupid to realize and caught up in “trucon” hate to realize the difference.

melle1228 on May 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

‘Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem? Is it going to help us find out what is really going on?’

No, but it would motivate the next person to find out the answers, since there would now be consequences associated with poor performance.

GWB on May 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Akzed on May 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM

“Off with his head” – does not solve anything.

The issue is not Shinseki – it’s fixing the problem – use him to fix it by forcing him to constantly testify before the cameras.

jake-the-goose on May 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

So… Are we gonna get the bonus money back from the creeps at the VA?

Fallon on May 29, 2014 at 1:19 PM

But some hateful dingbats truecons are so caught up in Boehner hate, they are too stupid to realize this

swamp_yankee on May 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Right, let’s keep Boehner. We need him to implement our next big-government solution to all our problems: amnesty!

Tool.

AZCoyote on May 29, 2014 at 1:19 PM

I hear Trey Gowdy is busy.

Who else is there?

freedomfirst on May 29, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Mike Kelly. The guy who slayed the IRS Commissioner.

Happy Nomad on May 29, 2014 at 1:19 PM

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