Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on May 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

Liberal Democrats feel the wind is at their backs, making it all the more irksome for them that Hillary Clinton could be their presidential nominee in 2016.

For many on the left, Clinton is the woman who supported the Iraq War, ran to the right of President Obama and is associated with the Wall Street-friendly centrism espoused by her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

Progressives feel they are in a political golden age in which questions about income inequality are growing louder, anti-gay marriage laws are falling and the growing Hispanic electorate regards the GOP with skepticism. Given all that, they don’t want to be stuck with a standard-bearer they see as too centrist…

“Every candidate who thinks about running will be faced with a whole set of questions, on holding Wall Street accountable, on combatting student debt, on expanding social security,” said Ilya Sheyman, the executive director of MoveOn.Org Political Action. “Whether it’s Secretary Clinton or Sen. Warren or others, all of them are going to have to address the issues that progressives really care about.”

***

In recent weeks, Hillary Rodham Clinton has begun a calculated transition from respected diplomat to fierce advocate for the 99 percent, using a “haves versus have-nots” message to build support among progressives who are desperate for a strong voice to battle Wall Street, protect entitlement programs such as Social Security and promote income equality.

But for Mrs. Clinton, a rich, successful woman and part of one of America’s most powerful political families, there are questions about how effectively she can carry that banner if she runs for president in 2016…

“If Hillary Clinton campaigns on reforming Wall Street, jailing Wall Street bankers who broke the law, expanding Social Security benefits and investing in government jobs — and fights those fights in a way that shows her heart is in it — voters will reward her,” [Adam Green, co-founder of the increasingly powerful Progressive Change Campaign Committee] said. “If it sounds like lip service, a more genuine-sounding populist, Democrat or Republican, may capture the imagination of voters.”

***

Hillary Clinton is by her own admission months away from deciding on whether or not she will run for president. But even before any other would-be candidate can do so much as set up an exploratory committee or cook up an excuse to visit to Dubuque County Democrats Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner, Democratic officials are stumbling over themselves to announce that they support Hillary Clinton for president in 2016.

And it just so happens that many of those Democrats were the very same ones who in 2007 were among the first to breach conventional wisdom and line up behind up the little-known Illinois senator…

Political observers have various theories about what is at play here. Although no one contacted for this article would admit to being pressured to get on board early after last cycle’s betrayal, in HRC: State Secrets and the Rebirth of Hillary Clinton, the authors, Washington-based correspondents Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes, revealed that the Clintons kept an “enemies list” of who had not been loyal during the campaign. Clinton loyalists downplayed the significance of the document, but it has been hard to not notice that over the last six years Bill Clinton especially has vigorously campaigned on behalf of those who supported Hillary.

“They certainly know that the Clintons take note and keep score,” said Larry Sabato, a political historian at the University of Virginia. “This is not a couple that easily forgives and forgets. So this is kiss-and-make-up time for most of these people.”

***

Everyone knows about the “Ready for Hillary” Democrats — the rapidly proliferating parade of elected officials and activists getting behind Hillary Clinton’s increasingly likely 2016 presidential campaign.

But there’s also a smaller but increasingly vocal group making its presence felt lately — call it the “Wary of Hillary” Democrats. They’re not outwardly opposing a Clinton candidacy. But they are anxious about the spectacle of a Clinton juggernaut, after seeing what happened when she ran a campaign of inevitability last time…

“She is an enormously capable candidate and leader, but I do worry about the inevitability, because I think it’s off-putting to the average voter,” Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a longtime Obama ally, told CNN earlier this month. “And I think that was an element of her campaign the last time. As an enthusiastic Democrat, I just hope that the people around her pay attention to that this time around.”

***

Burned by disappointment, many liberals want to vote with their heads, not their hearts, this time around.

And the Hillary-Industrial Complex is ready to exploit that sentiment. The HIC is the vast network of loyalists, retreads, activists, pols, hacks, fans (in and out of the press), Friends of Bill, and, of course, Friends of Hillary who want to see a Clinton restoration. They are waiting for her to run like 19th-century land speculators anticipating news that the railroad will go past their lots…

In her first campaign-style speech on the economy last week at the New America Foundation, Clinton mentioned Obama exactly once. (He’s worked hard, she said.) She referenced her husband a half-dozen times and talked at great length about how we need to return to the policies of the 1990s. (The Clintons remain convinced that the 1990s boom was a function of Bill’s expert tweaking of the dials and knobs on the master control board of the economy.) It wasn’t even subtle. No mention of the stimulus, cash-for-clunkers, Obamacare, or Dodd-Frank. As economics writer James Pethokoukis noted, “It was like Hillary was placed in suspended animation in 2008 and just recently revived to give a stump speech about the evils of the Bush tax cuts.”

Not only was there precious little talk of Obama, there was precious little talk of her four years on Obama’s once-vaunted “team of rivals.” She listed none of her major accomplishments as secretary of state, probably because she had none. (She did open with a reference to some bureaucratic reshuffling on her watch.) No serious student of foreign policy thinks our strategic standing in the world improved on Clinton’s watch as America’s chief diplomat. That alone doesn’t mean she was a terrible secretary of state — lots of people in that job tread water. But it doesn’t inspire either. Meanwhile, the most famous thing she did in that job was nothing — on the night of the Benghazi attack. She also traveled a lot, which is nice.

***

A broad array of Democrats — including Hillary Clinton’s allies — are meeting this week to hammer out a united front on national security issues, including a clear response to Republicans over the Benghazi controversy.

They see an opportunity to wrest control of a narrative that some allies fear could be damaging to Clinton if she moves ahead with a 2016 presidential campaign…

Some of the expected attendees of the briefing have been communicating over the past few weeks in calls and through an email listserv, with the goal of keeping the broad-based group informed about the news accounts of the committee’s anticipated activities.

A wide range of people are on the listserv, including people who work for groups like Media Matters, former Hillary Clinton foreign policy adviser Andrew Shapiro, former National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor and several current and former Hillary Clinton aides.

***

Republican praise of the Clinton era over the last several years could reverberate in the 2016 presidential race, giving the Democratic front-runner a core talking point…

On many occasions, Republicans have touted Bill Clinton’s administration as a way to bash Obama. They maintain the 42nd president negotiated in good faith, and Obama doesn’t…

“If Hillary Clinton does indeed run in 2016, one of the most powerful weapons she will have in her campaign arsenal is ‘Republicans, in their own words.’ It’s a treasure trove of sound-bites and footage that could leave Republicans kicking themselves when it is all said and done.”…

O’Connell said, “Need to distance yourself from the albatross known as Obama? Roll the tape. Want to tout your bipartisan credentials to woo independents? Roll the tape. Have to show that you’re a pragmatic problem solver? Roll the tape.”

***

Rove, however, was on to something. He exposed a Clinton weakness that has nothing to do with her brain and everything to do with her skin. It is too thin. She despises the media and trusts us not at all. This is a theme of the Auletta piece and a similar one by Glenn Thrush and Maggie Haberman of Politico. One veteran of Clinton’s campaigns put it this way to them: “Look, she hates you. Period. That’s never going to change.”

I suppose she’s entitled. The press has investigated her, pummeled her, poked into her personal life, questioned her sexual orientation, accused her of adultery, said she had thrown a White House lamp at her husband (I wonder why?) and is responsible in some fuzzy way for the four deaths at Benghazi. Presumably, her link to the VA scandal has yet to be uncovered…

What gave Rove’s speculation legs was Clinton’s penchant to roll into a defensive ball and act as if she’s hiding something. Had she a reputation for openness and candor, no one could possibly think she has suffered a grievous head injury. It was this allergic reaction to the press that hurt her so much when she lost the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama. If she runs in 2016, it will hurt her if she does not get over it.

***

Put it all together, and you start to get a picture of what a Clinton challenger might look like: probably male, moderate and anti-establishment.

Who matches that profile?

Webb, for one. He has been both a Democrat and Republican. Maybe Brian Schweitzer, the former Montana governor who mixes liberal and conservative positions and is not a fan of the Washington, D.C., establishment. A candidate like Joe Biden, who has been in Washington for over 40 years – probably not…

What should be noted is that early major Clinton endorsements also seem to be coming from the left, according to University of Stanford professor Simon Jackman‘s ideal point estimates. Of the 21 senators who have endorsed Clinton, 13 are to the left of the median Democratic senator, and only eight are to the right. The book “The Party Decides” tells us that this group holds a large sway over who gets the nomination, because they tend to represent the various interest groups within the party. Therefore, this hints at a potential challenger having more room for support on the right than the left.

***

In the 2008 battle with Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton won Latinos and the white working class overwhelmingly. She lost black voters overwhelmingly and liberal whites by a good margin. She split the unions and the Robert Rubin Democrats. Importantly, her coalition was probably large enough to win, had she run a better campaign. Obama’s victory among pledged delegates was a scant 127 out of a total of 3,424. His entire margin of victory rested upon his superior organization of low-turnout caucus states like Idaho and Maine, where Clinton’s potential coalition was probably stronger. So, assuming that Team Clinton learns the rules of its own party this time around, a would-be challenger will actually have to build a bigger coalition than Obama’s…

In the end, Clinton’s greatest advantage might be the continued political weakness of Obama. History is not on the side of the Democrats as they try to win the White House for a third consecutive term. A party has only done so once in the postwar era—in 1988, when Ronald Reagan’s job approval was in the mid-50s by Election Day. Currently, Obama’s is mired in the mid-40s. Yet Clinton has a personal reputation that might transcend Obama’s unpopularity, and she polls extremely well at the moment. So long as that continues, risk-averse Democrats of all demographic stripes might be inclined to put aside their internecine battle to prevent a Republican victory, something they all equally oppose.

***

There is tremendous momentum swirling around Mrs. Clinton that will begin to gather steam as soon as she announces her candidacy. A Hillary win would seem like a glorious victory for feminism, one of the 20th century’s greatest social movements. Remember how much difficulty 2008 GOP nominee John McCain had running against a freshman senator with a thin résumé who managed to position himself as the triumphant final act of the Civil Rights movement…

Furthermore, do not underestimate how many millions of Independent and even Republican baby-boomer women who helped sow the seeds of the feminist movement in the ‘60s and ‘70s will be cheering her on.

How does the male Republican presidential candidate maneuver around this movement? By persuading voters that an issue or personality flaw in the movement’s leader is more important than the triumph of the movement.

In the case of Hillary Clinton, that issue and personality flaw is “trust.”

This is where the gloves come off and all the past Clinton scandals of both Bill and Hillary come back to life. The campaign must come down to a simple question: “Can we trust the Clintons in the White House again?”


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Ratso!

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM

!ostaR

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Me first.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM

I never really got Maya Angelou’s poetry….

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

That was quick OC!

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

lol

Evening All

CoffeeLover on May 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

hi CL!

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

!ostaR

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

You are not alone.

CoffeeLover on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Ugh! Shrillary….

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

hello Beauty!

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Hi Ken (waving)

CoffeeLover on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Tonight’s VA hearing is still going on. You have two choices:

Live

Memorex

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

You are not alone.

CoffeeLover on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

No he has Ratso.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Ugh! Shrillary….

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

I know! BRRRRRRRRR!

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

You are not alone.

CoffeeLover on May 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

I never understood what was so important and newsworthy about the chick either…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I guess Kochbrain and Dale1 will be here shortly.

RickB on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Finished 92 CME credits in 4 days. PHEW. I am really tired of medical trivia!

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Ahh, QOTD, at last !!
Am about to crawl into bed (been busy, am tired, k ? ) but sure wanted to extend blessings upon y’all, first !
:-)

pambi on May 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Thanks!

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

CL and I have a Good Buddy in MA that is at a trivia contest tonight–he can always use another body ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Greetings pambi! And same to you..:)

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Didn’t you expect a lot of CE when you decided your profession?

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

I never understood what was so important and newsworthy about the chick either…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

What chick?

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

pambi on May 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Hi, Pambi!

Niters and sleep well, Pambi! ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Vince Foster, Ron Brown, Jim McDougal, and the Benghazi Four could not be reached for comment.

viking01 on May 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

pambi on May 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Glad to see you! Stick around for a little?

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

CL and I have a Good Buddy in MA that is at a trivia contest tonight–he can always use another body ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

I love trivia games, usually. My old roommate said I knew more useless crap than anyone he had ever met. Hehe:)

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

pambi on May 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Do any canning this week?

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Adam Ant – Goody two Shoes

RickB on May 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Where would be had Clinton beaten Obama?

I can’t imagine we’d be worse off.

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

And the Bar is Open!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Too old. Too white. Too rich.

You lefties shouldn’t accept this.

Jackson-Lee 2016

Bishop on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

What chick?

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Maya Angelou…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

PHEW. I am really tired of medical trivia!

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

What is “Iowa Ear” ?

viking01 on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Where would be had Clinton beaten Obama?

I can’t imagine we’d be worse off.

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

I don’t see how we could be.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Be Advised:

that H/A Crew Members who are/were AWOL
on the VA Hearings will be getting some nasty letters!

You Know WHO YOU are!!

(snark)
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Abandon ship: Senate Dems Udall, Walsh say Shineski must go after brutal VA IG report
posted at 6:01 pm on May 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

Consider this an open thread
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May 28, 2014
Veterans Administration Health Care Wait List

Veterans Affairs (VA) Department officials testified about the alleged destruction of an unofficial patient waiting list associated with the Phoenix VA health care system.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?319594-1/va-hospital-waiting-list-records

canopfor on May 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

And the Bar is Open!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Woodford Reserve please! And you look amazing tonight!

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

[activating Wireless Drink Stations and Drone Delivery System...sends Pambi a double Whatchudrinkin'...puts on AP's tab under "Overtime Expense"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Psst .. God…. He be VERRY busy.
Those y’all have been praying for .. Rest blessed, knowing He’s busily answering them, K ??
Yeah, He loves ya’s.

Thanks for the ‘Niters … Bod wants to rest, yet I simply wait.
Some folks understand.

pambi on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM

So, I was over at this stock forum (Investors Hub) today, and… Shock, their was a Doc Holliday posting there… Somebody done stole your nic Doc… <— Insert rueful laughter here…

oscarwilde on May 28, 2014 at 9:52 PM

oscarwilde on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Didn’t you expect a lot of CE when you decided your profession?

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Expected, yes. Wanted, No.

I have to give them credit though–the tests I took over the last four days were much improved over the ones from several years ago–6 out of the 7 were quite good. The 7th was a new thing they were trying and it may have been the dumbest thing I have ever seen. It was definitely not ready for prime time. 2-3 hours of fair pulling frustration on that one. Now the big test which will be in the fall.

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Maya Angelou…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 P

Race hustler. She was obsessed with being black and always saw herself as a victim. Naturally the darling of the idiot liberals.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

[slides a double Woodford Reserve down to Ken...]

*smooooch!* Love the shirt, Ken ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

This just in:

Don Abernathy is STILL rolling on the floor laughing.

ToddPA on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

She was a lefty who wrote lefty poetry. There was nothing to understand.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:52 PM

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

I was going to write that but for once I was trying to be nice.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:52 PM

I`m still hoping that the Obama/Chicago Machine will work to wreck her just out of spite.

ThePrez on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

I am really bummed. I found out from LM that Applehead was banned from the headlines this morning and cannot post any longer. Really, really sucks…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

I never really got Maya Angelou’s poetry….

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Racist. Sexist. Troglodyte. I can’t think of any other names to call you, except …

Rude buffoon, loon, macaroon, anime cartoon, Fruit of the Loom …

That was the call, folks. I don’t write ‘em, I just says ‘em.

Alien on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

*smooooch!* Love the shirt, Ken ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

it works with my Blue eyes. *MUAAH!*,

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM

So, I was over at this stock forum (Investors Hub) today, and… Shock, their was a Doc Holliday posting there… Somebody done stole your nic Doc… <— Insert rueful laughter here…

oscarwilde on May 28, 2014 at 9:52 PM

It wasn’t me! Oh well, the Internet is a big place…

I spent the day doing my tests and helping my wife with the home schooled kids do theirs sat-10′s. More of that for them tomorrow….

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

She is completely beatable.

terryannonline on May 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

ToddPA on May 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Fresh Air….

KCB on May 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

She was a lefty who wrote lefty poetry. There was nothing to understand.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:52 PM

I agree completely. I remember that insipid junk she wrote when Obama won. I was thinking this tripe was written by a 6th grader. There was a thing on Facebook under George W. Bush’s page with him and Laura standing with Angelou. I went with the old adage If you can’t say anything nice,…

Judge_Dredd on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Where would be had Clinton beaten Obama?

I can’t imagine we’d be worse off.

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Oh, I don’t know….she’d probably be All Waaays Taaard
by now…

ToddPA on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

I was going to write that but for once I was trying to be nice.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Now I feel kind of guilty. One shouldn’t speak ill of the dead. I don’t know why.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Seriously ??
Good grief !
What on earth could have caused THAT ?
Sheesh.

pambi on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Can you imagine if Gore had won?

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

I am really bummed. I found out from LM that Applehead was banned from the headlines this morning and cannot post any longer. Really, really sucks…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

WTF???

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:56 PM

batman sings

RickB on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

I agree completely. I remember that insipid junk she wrote when Obama won. I was thinking this tripe was written by a 6th grader. There was a thing on Facebook under George W. Bush’s page with him and Laura standing with Angelou. I went with the old adage If you can’t say anything nice,…

Judge_Dredd on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

I am just sick and tired of all the fawning over her passing. I won’t be surprised if Fat Oprah doesn’t do a two hour prime time special on MA…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

So, I was over at this stock forum (Investors Hub) today, and… Shock, their was a Doc Holliday posting there… Somebody done stole your nic Doc… <— Insert rueful laughter here…

oscarwilde on May 28, 2014 at 9:52 PM

I get that all the time, too. There are aliens all over the place here.

Oops — I wasn’t supposed to say that out loud.
I was never here.

Alien on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Adventures in the ‘my-insurance-got-changed-because-of-Obamacare’ follies.
Had a meet/ greet w/ a new PCP. He sent me to the lab for some bloodwork. Clerk at lab informed me that said lab is out of network for ins. If ins didn’t pay any of bill-3 blood tests would cost me around $550.
3 blood tests.
These tests aren’t ones that must be done immediately-so after convention I’ll find out were I can get them done.
*bangs head*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

I am really bummed. I found out from LM that Applehead was banned from the headlines this morning and cannot post any longer. Really, really sucks…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

What did he do there or was it because of before? That sentence made no sense. There’s always Facebook.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Look what I found…

Sundrop

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Now I feel kind of guilty. One shouldn’t speak ill of the dead. I don’t know why.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Why? No sense in being a hypocrite just ’cause she died…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I am just sick and tired of all the fawning over her passing. I won’t be surprised if Fat Oprah doesn’t do a two hour prime time special on MA…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Please! Give that woman no ideas!

Judge_Dredd on May 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I found out from LM that Applehead was banned from the headlines this morning and cannot post any longer. Really, really sucks…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

How does one get oneself banned from the Headlines? Cripes.

Alien on May 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

What did he do there or was it because of before? That sentence made no sense. There’s always Facebook.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Banning comes in two stages here. Blogs first and headlines second. His second phase just took some time…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Adventures in the ‘my-insurance-got-changed-because-of-Obamacare’ follies.
Had a meet/ greet w/ a new PCP. He sent me to the lab for some bloodwork. Clerk at lab informed me that said lab is out of network for ins. If ins didn’t pay any of bill-3 blood tests would cost me around $550.
3 blood tests.
These tests aren’t ones that must be done immediately-so after convention I’ll find out were I can get them done.
*bangs head*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Did you ask if they take cash? Some places will give you BIG discounts on cash…just a thought.

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Alabama – Song Of The South

RickB on May 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM

[activating Wireless Drink Stations and Drone Delivery System...sends Pambi a double Whatchudrinkin'...puts on AP's tab under "Overtime Expense"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

NATB:0

Can you said a Tea, by Drone over to the VA Thread,….thanks:)

canopfor on May 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM

I am really bummed. I found out from LM that Applehead was banned from the headlines this morning and cannot post any longer. Really, really sucks…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

What’d they say?

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Demonization Sumpins:

NSA surveillance programs leaked
1m
Edward Snowden to NBC News: ‘People have unfairly demonized the NSA to a point that is too extreme’ – @ZekeJMiller
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on May 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

am really bummed. I found out from LM that Applehead was banned from the headlines this morning and cannot post any longer. Really, really sucks… OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

That sucks.. I don’t understand what he did wrong in the first place.

wolly4321 on May 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

These tests aren’t ones that must be done immediately-so after convention I’ll find out were I can get them done.
*bangs head*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

ALT — call the customer service number on the back of your membership card. If they’re a larger concern, they will probably also have a website with all of the providers listed. Labs in my area go on and off insurance programs all the time; they cut a better deal with a certain doctor’s group or whatever, and they change.

Alien on May 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

What’d they say?

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM

It was probably just phase two of his initial ban, doubt they said anything…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Edward Snowden to NBC News: ‘People have unfairly demonized the NSA to a point that is too extreme’ – @ZekeJMiller
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on May 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Playin’ kissy face cause he wants to come home and not get whacked….

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Look what I found…

Sundrop

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I’m virtually happy to have a virtual sundrop.

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

This is for Hillary

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Can you said a Tea, by Drone over to the VA Thread,….thanks:)

canopfor on May 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Consider it done, Canopfor!

[enters on AP's tab under "Special Delivery"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s qotd time

coolrepublica on May 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

The lab is part of the UMC. I doubt it.
I’m a woman of a certain age. Women of certain ages tend to regularly come down with issues that require lab work to figure them out and treat them.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Wow! You have got to be kidding.

Judge_Dredd on May 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Alabama – Mountain Music

RickB on May 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I’m virtually happy to have a virtual sundrop.

Bigbullets on May 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

You’re virtually welcome…:)

*Slides a sundrop to Bigbullets through the USB..tells NTB to put it on Allah’s tab…*

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

[activating Wireless Drink Stations and Drone Delivery System...sends Pambi a double Whatchudrinkin'...puts on AP's tab under "Overtime Expense"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

How about one for the DJ.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Good evening everybody.

Steve Eggleston on May 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

ALT — call the customer service number on the back of your membership card. If they’re a larger concern, they will probably also have a website with all of the providers listed. Labs in my area go on and off insurance programs all the time; they cut a better deal with a certain doctor’s group or whatever, and they change.

Alien on May 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Sound advice Alien.

bazil9 on May 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

It was probably just phase two of his initial ban, doubt they said anything…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

No one was involved. Today they synchronized systems because they had big problems. Some people kept getting the wrong date/time stamps and many kept getting the “you’re posting too fast, slow down”, even if they logged off, and back on…all took a few hours.

Thus, AH was caught in the crossfire by the machines.

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

It was probably just phase two of his initial ban, doubt they said anything…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Criminey! Not even a note on the last thread I saw Appie on!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

In case one is interested:

NSA leaker Edward Snowden granted temporary asylum in Russia
LIVE
Live video: Brian Williams hosts webcast discussion about his Edward Snowden interview – @NBCNews

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/edward-snowden-revealed-as-source-of-nsa-leak/

canopfor on May 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

So I’m guessing Quotes of the Day are now open threads?

terryannonline on May 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Evening everyone, especially Steve E. Are you still an editor?

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Good evening everybody.

Steve Eggleston on May 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Hi Steve.

crankyoldlady on May 28, 2014 at 11:08 PM

So I’m guessing Quotes of the Day are now open threads?

terryannonline on May 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Were they ever not open threads?

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

The lab is part of the UMC. I doubt it.
I’m a woman of a certain age. Women of certain ages tend to regularly come down with issues that require lab work to figure them out and treat them.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

UMC?

University Medical Center?

Unruly Male Cats? RATSO!

Still bet they’ll see the light if you offer some green…but like Alien said, call the number on the card, then call the labs they recommend…that should do it. Your card may also have a website that lists participating labs–the key is to confirm it before you burn any gas–labs and offices drop and add insurances all the time….call ahead.

Doc Holliday on May 28, 2014 at 11:08 PM

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