Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on May 27, 2014 by Allahpundit

There are no absolute certainties when it comes to mass killers, but a few things come close. Someone will use the term “disaffected youth” to describe the perpetrator. Somewhere there will be a diary—either Tweets, blogs, YouTube videos or scrawled musings in a lined notebook. And the murderer will—with more than a 98% certainty—be male…

There is no shortage of explanations for the overwhelming maleness of the monster population. Some of the answers reveal a lot—and yet nothing at all. Testosterone fuels aggression. Stipulated. Boys take longer to mature than girls. Stipulated. And like the forebrains of young females, those of young males are not fully myelinated until the late 20s or even early 30s. The forebrain is where executive functions—impulse control, reflection, awareness of consequences—live. In the case of males, who are already trip-wired for aggression, that provides a lot of years to behave badly…

But there’s more, and a lot of it has to do with status. Males, for better or worse, are ferociously protective of their position in any tribe, community, or society, and any threat to that position goes to the core of their identity and self-esteem. It’s a common observation in times of recession that while loss of a job is miserable for both genders, it’s the males who are likelier to become completely undone by it. Without the role of worker and money-earner, men feel hollowed-out, and that too often calls for revenge. it’s not for nothing that the victims in workplace shootings are often managers who just the month before demoted or sacked the shooter.

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I do not blame the Pick-Up Artist community (or its somehow even more deeply tortured counterpart, the Anti-Pick-Up-Artist community) for the deaths of seven people. The man who committed this horrific crime is responsible for this heinous act. But I was interested to see how these groups are reacting to the news. It is disturbing, if not surprising, that they are using these murders to reinforce their hatred of women and “Beta” men, and to cement their own status at the top of the pyramid.

When news of the shooting broke, PUA Hate members attempted to absolve themselves by critiquing Rodger’s sex appeal (“Short lower third and gay midface, with zero brow ridge,” one decided), ridiculing his mother’s looks, and scrambling to assert authority among themselves. (“Only high-T guys should be allowed to give advice here. Nich, can you add that as a rule?” one poster said). Another poster suggested that Rodger was such a Beta that no one would care if he’d murdered people…

Misogyny and violence against women are social problems as well as individual ones. The fact that these men see “game” as the remedy to all personal and social ills is perhaps the greatest indictment of the way they view the world.

***

Rodger’s horrifying violence, the videos he posted, and the way he saw himself are all extreme. But they’re also a reflection of the way poisonous ideals of masculinity affect men. To some extent, I’ve felt the frustration Rodger felt, and I think other men may feel it as well. This is not an excuse for Rodger’s actions, but something more painful: a confrontation of the ways in which he’s not deviant, but typical. Acknowledging that seems like an important part of making sure this kind of thinking doesn’t remain typical any longer…

In her book Between Men, Eve Sedgwick dissects this kind of thinking: Men typically route their feelings toward and competition with one another through women, she says. Women become tools through which men show their power and worth to other men. Success with women is also an important part of men’s self-image—that’s a big part of what it means to “be a man.” This seems to be the kind of thinking at work when Rodger says he feels like women are “treat[ing] me like scum” when they have boyfriends who aren’t him. To him, women aren’t people; they’re markers of who is and who is not a man. If a woman chooses someone else, the thinking goes, that means Rodger and others like him are not men…

This kind of thinking creates a version of male identity that is bifurcated, or split in two. There is the man you should be, and then there is the failed, non-man thing you are. You can see this in ugly detail in Rodger’s videos, where he veers back and forth between outlandish claims of his own magnificence and despairing statements of his own inconsequentiality. At one moment he’s the “ultimate gentlemen,” the next he’s “so invisible as I walk through my college, because none of the girls pay attention to me.” He is super human and then he’s nothing; there’s no space between the two. For Rodger, this could only be resolved with the ultimate expression of “manliness”: violence. “If I can’t have you girls, I will destroy you,” he says. And he destroyed himself, too: that pitiful failed thing who was not a man.

***

Among men, misogyny hides in plain sight, and not just because most men are oblivious to the problem or callous toward its impact. Men who objectify and threaten women often strategically obscure their actions from other men, taking care to harass women when other men aren’t around.

The night after the murders, I was at a backyard party in New York, talking with a female friend, when a drunk man stepped right between us. “I was thinking the exact same thing,” he said. As we had been discussing pay discrepancies between male and female journalists, we informed him that this was unlikely. But we politely endured him as he dominated our conversation, insisted on hugging me, and talked too long about his obsession with my friend’s hair. I escaped inside, and my friend followed a few minutes later. The guy had asked for her phone number, and she had declined, informing him that she was married and, by the way, her husband was at the party. “Why did I say that? I wouldn’t have been interested in him even if I weren’t married,” she told me. “Being married was, like, the sixth most pressing reason you weren’t into him,” I said. We agreed that she had said this because aggressive men are more likely to defer to another man’s domain than to accept a woman’s autonomous rejection of him…

These are forms of male aggression that only women see. But even when men are afforded a front seat to harassment, they don’t always have the correct vantage point for recognizing the subtlety of its operation. Four years before the murders, I was sitting in a bar in Washington, D.C. with a male friend. Another young woman was alone at the bar when an older man scooted next to her. He was aggressive, wasted, and sitting too close, but she smiled curtly at his ramblings and laughed softly at his jokes as she patiently downed her drink. “Why is she humoring him?” my friend asked me. “You would never do that.” I was too embarrassed to say: “Because he looks scary” and “I do it all the time.”

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Alongside American Psycho and “My Twisted World,” the killer’s autobiography, we could place Hamlet, another story about a hyper-privileged young man whose fury, fear and confusion around sex and manliness sent him into a postmodern spiral of self-obsession and carnage.

In today’s culture, where we sometimes seem to want everyone to be recognized as a hero, we can fail to see that heroism often comes at a great price. Hamlet refused to accept that heroism was his destiny, because of the behavior it required. One tradition of masculinity crashed against another. The result was tragedy.

For too many young men today, something similar seems poised to happen again and again. One tradition of manliness points them toward the worship of wealth, sex, and power—and toward crushing depression if all those things elude their grasp. Another tradition of manliness would point them toward discipline, sacrifice, and self-denial.

The first tradition, in fairy-tale terms, is the villain tradition. The second is for heroes. But in today’s world, the worst of traditionalism is being aggrandized, and the best is being lost in the noise.

***

How much longer are we going to be in denial that there’s a thing called “rape culture” and we ought to do something about it?

No, not the straw man that all men are constantly plotting rape, but that we live in an entitlement culture where guys think they need to be having sex with girls in order to be happy and fulfilled. That in a culture that constantly celebrates the narrative of guys trying hard, overcoming challenges, concocting clever ruses and automatically getting a woman thrown at them as a prize as a result, there will always be some guy who crosses the line into committing a violent crime to get what he “deserves,” or get vengeance for being denied it.

To paraphrase the great John Oliver, listen up, fellow self-pitying nerd boys—we are not the victims here. We are not the underdogs. We are not the ones who have our ownership over our bodies and our emotions stepped on constantly by other people’s entitlement. We’re not the ones where one out of six of us will have someone violently attempt to take control of our bodies in our lifetimes…

What did Elliot Rodger need? He didn’t need to get laid. None of us nerdy frustrated guys need to get laid. When I was an asshole with rants full of self-pity and entitlement, getting laid would not have helped me.

He needed to grow up.

***

The people who commit mass acts of violence are crazy. Some are also ideologically motivated. We call them terrorists. And yet while in America we’re quick to recognize and politicize the broader implications of Islamic extremism, misogyny is treated not as an ideology but simply a sub-category of crazy.

That not only ignores but quietly allows misogyny-as-ideology to go unexamined in all its other forms, from domestic violence to date rape to street harassment to economic inequality and more—chalking injustice up to individual aberrations rather than a system of dehumanization that is both perpetuated and protected by our social, political, and economic structures.

If the Santa Barbara shooter had been Muslim, and left the same sorts of video screeds and more, our government and media would undoubtedly be labeling this incident as terrorism. Just as an Islamic fundamentalist terrorist sets out to kill American infidels simply because they are “American infidels,” the Santa Barbara shooter set out to kill women simply because they were women. You tell me the difference. To fail to label the latter terrorism suggests a politicized use of the term, one interested in defending Judeo-Christian Americans and values, but not women.

***

It is striking how therapeutic is the language used by Rodger in his videos and his murder manifesto. He talks about how people’s attitudes towards him “really decreased my self-esteem.” He clearly sees such assaults on his self-esteem as unacceptable, saying “if they won’t accept me… then they are my enemies.” In short, fail to offer recognition to this damaged creature and you will pay the price. And then he makes the key cry of our therapeutic era: “It’s not fair. Life is not fair.”…

This isn’t a religious thing. There’s no evidence that Rodger thought he was a messiah, as other nutjobs have. Rather, it’s a therapeutic thing. Therapy culture has created a new army of little gods made fearsomely angry by any perceived insult against their self-esteem. It has generated groups of people who, like something out of the Old Testament, think nothing of squishing things that offend them or hurt their sense of self-worth. It has made a whole new anti-social generation whose desire to protect themselves from emotional harm overrides the older human instinct to engage with other people and be tolerant of their differences. When Rodger says “I am a living god,” he is speaking, not from any kind of wacky religious script, but from the mainstream bible of therapy. The cult of therapy convinces individuals they are gods and that their self-esteem is a gospel that must not be blasphemed against. As the New York Times columnist David Brooks once said of a therapeutic self-help guide to life, death, and life after death, “In this heaven, God and his glory are not the center of attention. It’s all about you.” The self has elbowed aside God; the self is God, as Rodger seems to have realised.

Perhaps we should see Rodger as a kind of therapeutic terrorist, using murder to gain recognition; his rampage can be seen as a very violent therapy session, a real primal scream in defense of his sacred self-esteem.

***

“I don’t care about your sympathy. I don’t give a s— that you feel sorry for me,” Richard Martinez said during an extensive interview, his face flushed as tears rolled down his face. “Get to work and do something. I’ll tell the president the same thing if he calls me. Getting a call from a politician doesn’t impress me.”

Saying “we are all to blame” for the death of his 20-year-old son, Martinez urged the public to join him in demanding “immediate action” from members of Congress and President Obama to curb gun violence by passing stricter gun-control laws.

“Today, I’m going to ask every person I can find to send a postcard to every politician they can think of with three words on it: Not one more,” he said Tuesday. “People are looking for something to do. I’m asking people to stand up for something. Enough is enough.”

***

Nevertheless, as disturbing as this is, we have a good word for attitudes and behavior such as this. That word is “crazy.” The essential trouble with the panoply of indignant hashtags and self-righteous op-eds that have appeared in the aftermath of the outrage is that they have tended to establish a false dichotomy: Either one believes that this incident is directly reflective of a given problem or one is denying that that given problem exists at all. This is silly and manipulative. To suggest that the cartoon misogyny of an extremely disturbed young man is not usefully related to women’s rights in general is not to suggest that women face no problems in America at all — any more than to suggest that dismissing as schizophrenia the “microwave machine” surveillance-paranoia of the sick man who shot up the Navy Yard implies that Americans have nothing to fear from wiretaps or the relentless pace of the Internet. It is just to say that the shooter’s ostensible motive is of limited utility going forward, and that if it wasn’t this, it would almost certainly have been something else

All told, the killer hated everybody. He hated himself. He hated women. He hated other men because women liked them. He hated white people because he was only half-white, and he hated minorities because he wasn’t as non-white as they were. He craved sex, but was also disgusted by it. He hated his classmates, but also his whole town, which he had originally planned to wipe out in toto on Halloween. Four of the victims were men, two were women; three were ethnic Chinese, three were white. This was a crime whose execution was as complicated — and, possibly, as meaningless — as its conception. When terror strikes, the first word to our lips is “why?” We sully the search for genuine answers when, just hours into our inquiry, we are seen already to have woven the questions into our Weltanschauung.

***

Why, in our age of unprecedented plenty—and, at least in America, unprecedented power for women—is victimhood so appealing to so many? When complete strangers were murdered on the West Coast, why do hundreds of thousands of people, healthy in body if not in mind, enthusiastically latch on, insisting that they were victims too?

For certain people, the Internet offers a compelling, powerful alternate universe in which to dwell. Press reports describe the accused murderer as living in a lonely world of YouTube videos, video games, and twisted representations of reality. In his mind, everything—every loss, every perceived failure, every tiny personal slight, real or imagined—was blown out of proportion. Everything was taken personally. Everything, in the end, was all about him and his imagined victimhood.

Scarily, many of the posters on #YesAllWomen, to varying degrees, seem to share the same problem. For all of his hatred of women, the crazed, lonely murderer and the impassioned “feminist” Twitter activists might have something in common after all. Yikes, ladies. Yikes.

***

“Please listen to me,” Beck begged his audience. “You’ve got to get the video games out of your child’s hands. Please. I’m having a hard enough time trying to do it in my own home. … Enough. No more. Because they cannot handle it. This is not the same as Pac-Man. It is not the same. These are virtual worlds where they live. They live in these worlds; talk to them.”

“Brains are being rewired here,” Beck’s co-host Pat Gray added, “and nobody is paying attention.”

***


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I’m gungrabbing as we speak. I’m fondling a semiautomatic pistol. Unloaded of course. Hope that’s ok. Makes me feel like a big man.

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM

bonus point because I misspelled “POLAGNOSTIC”

Doc Holliday on May 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM

PolAgnostic on May 27, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Ha! I’m having a brain …….. the only lyrics I am hearing now. ” The line starts to my left. ” You know that one?

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM

My Grandfathers M1 Garand.

This is what I am going through.

I sent my shit azzed uncle a notary signed copy of my CCW permit. And my DD214.

wolly4321 on May 27, 2014 at 11:13 PM

My grandfather’s M1 Garand is likely to enter service again in defense of this Republic. Against enemies, DOMESTIC.

ConstantineXI on May 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Tell me bout the owl!

tommy71 on May 27, 2014 at 11:15 PM

“Please listen to me,” Beck begged his audience. “You’ve got to get the video games out of your child’s hands. Please. I’m having a hard enough time trying to do it in my own home. … Enough. No more. Because they cannot handle it. This is not the same as Pac-Man. It is not the same. These are virtual worlds where they live. They live in these worlds; talk to them.”

“Brains are being rewired here,” Beck’s co-host Pat Gray added, “and nobody is paying attention.”

It’s not like Pac-Man . . . OK, is it like Doom? Because I heard this stupid crap about Doom. –Is it like Mortal Kombat? Because I heard this stupid crap about Mortal Kombat. –Leisure Suit Larry? Duke Nukem? Is it like the world their parents live in, Cold Case Files, Law and Order, and four hours a night of second-tier murder porn?

. . . is it like Batman, Invaders from Mars, Night of the Living Dead? Halloween? NBK? Fargo? Godzilla?

. . . is it like an irresponsible, shrill, panicking jackass howling at the shiny object being waved in front of him, the real people responsible waving it so they will never have to cop to the damage they’ve done — deliberately done — to tear us down as a society?

. . . Can’t be that last one. I’ll go Robocop.

Axe on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

I’ll get a drink s soon as I get my lemon cake in the oven.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Maybe we’re spoiling the big announcement.

lynncgb on May 27, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Nope. Allah tweeted it under Friday something or another. novaculus told me what FF# stands for, now I can’t remember.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Evening evening

CoffeeLover on May 27, 2014 at 11:11 PM

[waves while jumping up and down...just misses Sparkie...]

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

I hope Allah is not going away. The best thing about the blogs is allahpundit. Please say the chatters are wrong Allah. Please. TT

coolrepublica on May 27, 2014 at 11:17 PM

He is a new Associate Editor.

PolAgnostic on May 27, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Is that a higher or lower rank here than just Editor? ;-)

reddevil on May 27, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

lol don’tcha dare hit me Sparky! I am (waving) back.

CoffeeLover on May 27, 2014 at 11:18 PM

http://time.com/114128/elliott-rodgers-ucsb-santa-barbara-shooter/

I knew, just knew, that the author was either an over thinking female or pansy. I was correct.

Is there a nice, quiet place where shit makes sense anymore?

arnold ziffel on May 27, 2014 at 11:18 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

You know what time it is here alt? This time. ; )

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I’ll get a drink s soon as I get my lemon cake in the oven.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Yum, lemon cake. Goes good with Scotch.

climbnjump on May 27, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Yum, lemon cake. Goes good with Scotch.

climbnjump on May 27, 2014 at 11:19 PM

And a lot of other things too.

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:20 PM

I hope Allah is not going away. The best thing about the blogs is allahpundit. Please say the chatters are wrong Allah. Please. TT

coolrepublica on May 27, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Hoo boy! There’s something we agree on. Allah blows the other bloggers away. He provokes thought better than anyone here IMHO.
Wait, why am I discussing thought-provoking with you? ;)

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:20 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Feed me.

*hops around chirping like a baby chick*

SparkPlug on May 27, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Maybe Ed’s the one leaving. He did get a new car.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I just had some of those about an hour ago. With chocolate fondue.

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Ricky Skaggs – “Bluegrass Breakdown

RickB on May 27, 2014 at 11:15 PM

US 23 in Eastern Kentucky has produced many classics… From Jackson to Ashland.

Dwight Yoakam “Readin Rightin Route 23″

ConstantineXI on May 27, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Maybe Ed’s the one leaving. He did get a new car.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Is there a special gossip page that I don’t know about?

oscarwilde on May 27, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Maybe they will all stay.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Except Doctor Zero. I miss that guy. He ran a close second to Allahpundit. Actually, I’d have a hard time choosing between the two.

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:23 PM

oscarwilde on May 27, 2014 at 11:22 PM

No. I see you there as well. ;) Tweety

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I have never had lemon cake. Bet I’d like it even though I generally hate cake…

OmahaConservative on May 27, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I hope no one is leaving. I like all the bloggers here.

lynncgb on May 27, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Yum, lemon cake. Goes good with Scotch.

climbnjump on May 27, 2014 at 11:19 PM

And a lot of other things too.

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Lemon cake or Scotch?

Oh silly me… They both go good with a lot of things.

climbnjump on May 27, 2014 at 11:24 PM

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:21 PM

We put up 20 quarts over the Holiday weekend. You may not know this. I love pie.; )

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:24 PM

I told you that I am responsible for the weapon. I am disinclined to sell it or give it way privately. This is on the advice counsel for his estate. This has nothing to do with sentmentality. It has everything to do with liabity.

.
My Grandfathers M1 Garand.

This is what I am going through.

I sent my shit azzed uncle a notary signed copy of my CCW permit. And my DD214.

wolly4321 on May 27, 2014 at 11:13 PM

.
Inform your uncle that the executor of an estate can be challenged in probate court for arbitrary decisions that may reflect a conflict of interest.

I call BS on the “advice of counsel for his estate”.

TELL HIM to provide the name and contact information for the estate’s counsel so he can referred to the probate court for related questioning.

Relatives being named as “Executors” of wills have a LONG history of suddenly making decisions a Probate Court Judge will find unacceptable and/or purely to benefit themselves.

PolAgnostic on May 27, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Maybe they are all leaving.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM

My grandfather’s M1 Garand is likely to enter service again in defense of this Republic. Against enemies, DOMESTIC. ConstantineXI on May 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM

That was my thought as well. It’s a fine instrument.

wolly4321 on May 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I hope no one is leaving. I like all the bloggers here.

lynncgb on May 27, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I could live w/o Hagfish and her fake Twitter account…

OmahaConservative on May 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:16 PM

You almost got your hand chopped off from my amped up rotor blade. Got an upgrade from the SWalker sprocket company which is a fully owned subsidiary of Amalgamated Discombobulations.

SparkPlug on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Driving Route US 23 in Eastern Kentucky…. God’s Road..

ConstantineXI on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

I’m here, y’all…just juggling laptop with lasagne… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Strange people populate the QOTD…

OmahaConservative on May 27, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Rude Buffoons, Saucy Wenches, and other assorted flotsam and jetsam…

Doc Holliday on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Maybe they will all stay.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Word is out. Something is up.We are your very best customers. Spill it!

KCB on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

bonus point because I misspelled “POLAGNOSTIC”

Doc Holliday on May 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM


Shucks
.. don’t sweat the small stuff.

:)

PolAgnostic on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Maybe Ed’s the one leaving. He did get a new car.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:21 PM

The Maserati or did he go bonkers on the Bugatti Veyron?

viking01 on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Maybe just to be safe, they should ban us all and start over.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Maybe they are all leaving.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Lol!

lynncgb on May 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:24 PM

ROFL. 20 Quarts will definitely make you some pies!

I love them. Had some in a salad yesterday, with chicken and pecans and baby spinach.

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM

GREG ALLMAN MIDNIGHT RIDER

RickB on May 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM

You almost got your hand chopped off from my amped up rotor blade. Got an upgrade from the SWalker sprocket company which is a fully owned subsidiary of Amalgamated Discombobulations.

SparkPlug on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

My hand was OK, Sparkie–almost lost another 8″ of hair, though…Homey don’t look good in short hair…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Axe said he might leave for ever but so far his longest cott was about the time it takes to put more peanut butter on a sammich.

SparkPlug on May 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Relatives being named as “Executors” of wills have a LONG history of suddenly making decisions a Probate Court Judge will find unacceptable and/or purely to benefit themselves.

PolAgnostic on May 27, 2014 at 11:24 PM

My brother was a lawyer. He said sometimes you can get results if you just send a letter from a lawyer. People back off when lawyers are mentioned.

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Strawberries are EVIL!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM

The Maserati or did he go bonkers on the Bugatti Veyron?

viking01 on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Stutz Bearcat, but he’s working on the suspension problem…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM

I’ve already been through one Release the Kraken event. Hope they don’t do that here.

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Axe said he might leave for ever but so far his longest cott was about the time it takes to put more peanut butter on a sammich.

SparkPlug on May 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Show a little respect! Axe is kinda a big deal, you know!

KCB on May 27, 2014 at 11:29 PM

viking01 on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

He got a red Subaru wagon. Took a little razzing over it as well. ; )

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Why the eff are they making someone from Mediaite an associate editor? !!!
Seriously!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Show a little respect! Axe is kinda a big deal, you know!

KCB on May 27, 2014 at 11:29 PM

That’s right. He doesn’t have to speak to us at all.

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Strawberries are EVIL!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM

And delicious.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Tomorrow’s tech notes will be: how to remove lasagna from an i5 laptop keyboard with a touch pad.

SparkPlug on May 27, 2014 at 11:31 PM

I gather that ALT is allergic to strawberries.?

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:32 PM

I could live w/o Hagfish and her fake Twitter account…

OmahaConservative on May 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM

She doesn’t bother me. But then again I’m easy going. Nobody bothers me.

lynncgb on May 27, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Why the eff are they making someone from Mediaite an associate editor? !!!
Seriously!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:31 PM

That’s what I was wondering…don’t know much about Rothman, except the name….

Doc Holliday on May 27, 2014 at 11:33 PM

When I was little, my mother would mash my meds into strawberry preserves and claim that I couldn’t taste the meds. I could.
To this day I hate strawberries.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Is that a higher or lower rank here than just Editor? ;-)

reddevil on May 27, 2014 at 11:18 PM

.
Forty years of business back up PolAgnostic’s Rule #5:

“Money, power, title – pick any two, only the CEO gets all three.”

PolAgnostic on May 27, 2014 at 11:34 PM

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Hi. Since he is delving into the fine art of snobbery we should figure out a way to get him good. Might have to call in Scrumpy as a consultant. Man she is a devious little minx because she is cute gets away with everything and I’m in the hot seat.

SparkPlug on May 27, 2014 at 11:35 PM

No one at Hot Gas that is. Liberals bother me.

lynncgb on May 27, 2014 at 11:35 PM

When I was little, my mother would mash my meds into strawberry preserves and claim that I couldn’t taste the meds. I could.
To this day I hate strawberries.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Don’t blame the berries…:)

Doc Holliday on May 27, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Maybe just to be safe, they should ban us all and start over.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Never say never..Ever heard of the Green Room? LOL! They still have the last day on the home page. Been two months at least. Thought they would find a pop up by now.

KCB on May 27, 2014 at 11:35 PM

And He came forward as a wall of fire, and trembling before Him all were askeered….. uhm, fraidybutt… aw sh1t.

DemetriusPhalerum on May 27, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Nobody bothers me.

lynncgb on May 27, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Give me just a little more time…….

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:36 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:33 PM

I’ve never been able to tolerate milk, even as a little baby. So, the doctor said “feed her bananas”…which my parents apparently took to heart with a deep fervor.

I can’t stand bananas now. Makes me nauseous to even smell them.

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:36 PM

When I was little, my mother would mash my meds into strawberry preserves and claim that I couldn’t taste the meds. I could.
To this day I hate strawberries.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:33 PM

I once got so drunk at a friend’s cousin’s house in Aurora on gin & mountain dew that to this day I can not drink gin or mountain dew.

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:36 PM

I just googled Rothman. He appears to lean right.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:36 PM

RickB on May 27, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Good one!

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:38 PM

I never cared for bananas either. The old folks seem to buy a lot of them. I also hate butterscotch. I wonder if there is some reason for that in the distant past that I don’t remember.

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Why the eff are they making someone from Mediaite an associate editor? !!!
Seriously!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:31 PM

It is a bit odd. Hopefully he has something in his repertoire other than writing about what he spends the day watching on MSNBC.

I kinda wish he and greaseball Tommy Christopher would have engaged more on Twitter.

reddevil on May 27, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Not sure if y’all can see this link. Here. Hope you can.

Good Night All.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Nobody bothers me.

lynncgb on May 27, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Give me just a little more time…….

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Margaret DuMont: (huffs) “I’ve never been so offended in all my life!”

Groucho Marx: (looking at watch) Well… it’s early yet.”

viking01 on May 27, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Hey Sparky!

LOOK WHAT I FOUND TODAY!

Had to take a photo… LOL

PointnClick on May 27, 2014 at 11:40 PM

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:38 PM

I can remember my grandmother eating banana and mayonnaise sandwiches as a snack before she went to bed at night.

I’d have to go in the other room. Ughhh!

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:41 PM

That’s what I was wondering…don’t know much about Rothman, except the name….

Doc Holliday on May 27, 2014 at 11:33 PM

He’s probably the most conservative contributor on Mediaite, as well as being on some of Hannity’s panels. I’d say he’s just under 30-ish…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Hey Sparky!

LOOK WHAT I FOUND TODAY!

Had to take a photo… LOL

PointnClick on May 27, 2014 at 11:40 PM

I knew that was a bunnysuit or a eurovac even before I clicked!

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Oh. I forgot this.

Ed Morrissey ‏@EdMorrissey 46m

Went to a meeting at church, ~4 miles away. Took me 30+ miles to drive home. Yes, I’m loving the new car.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:42 PM

YYZ!

KCB on May 27, 2014 at 11:42 PM

I once got so drunk at a friend’s cousin’s house in Aurora on gin & mountain dew that to this day I can not drink gin or mountain dew.

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Blackberry brandy… Haven’t had even a sip of that in almost 40 years for the same reason – although it wasn’t at anyone’s house. It was a place called Ghost Road.

climbnjump on May 27, 2014 at 11:43 PM

viking01 on May 27, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Lolz! Exactly! ; )

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Good Night All.

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Hmm.

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:39 PM

You better not bail!

TIFWIW, Bmore. I’ve been through a Kraken. Take what opportunity you have to love those you know. Time doesn’t stand still, and it won’t come again.

Don’t bail.

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:44 PM

I once got so drunk at a friend’s cousin’s house in Aurora on gin & mountain dew that to this day I can not drink gin or mountain dew.

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Blackberry brandy… Haven’t had even a sip of that in almost 40 years for the same reason – although it wasn’t at anyone’s house. It was a place called Ghost Road.

climbnjump on May 27, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Martinis. First time. Only time. Last time.

PointnClick on May 27, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Blackberry brandy… Haven’t had even a sip of that in almost 40 years for the same reason – although it wasn’t at anyone’s house. It was a place called Ghost Road.

climbnjump on May 27, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Not a fan of wine or brandy myself. Just those pink things Newtie makes for me with the umbrella in it. ;)

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:44 PM

I’d have to go in the other room. Ughhh!

lineholder on May 27, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Yukk!!

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Bmore on May 27, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Niters and sleep well, Bmore!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Strawberries are EVIL!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Yes, yes they are… I picked them as a kid, ate so many one summer I made myself sick, I utterly hate them now, the smell of fresh strawberries makes me gag…

oscarwilde on May 27, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Led Zeppelin – Ten Years Gone

RickB on May 27, 2014 at 11:46 PM

My brother was a lawyer. He said sometimes you can get results if you just send a letter from a lawyer. People back off when lawyers are mentioned.

crankyoldlady on May 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM

.
It’s not as true as it used to be because there are too many lawyers these days.

My two eldest brothers each named themselves Executors when they separately set up my parents’ wills.

Eldest brother, as Executor for my father, dotted the i’s & crossed the t’s, because my father died before my mother and she inherited all their worldly goods.

Second eldest bother, as Executor for my mother, did whatever he wanted, set values for all inheritable items, did NOT file with Probate Court and then proceeded to continue to pay for their house mortgage, etc out of insurance money while NOT putting house up for sale (my kids and I did 60% of the overall cleaning out of the house so it could be sold & the 5 brothers could inherit whatever was left) because he “was considering buying it as rental property”.

Told oldest brother, tell him to settle with other brothers NOW or I will go file a complaint with the Probate Court …

… Oldest brother knew the Judge was a stickler for dotting the i’s & crossing the t’s and would probably put out a bench warrant for an Executor who was 2 years overdue for filing.

PolAgnostic on May 27, 2014 at 11:47 PM

He’s probably the most conservative contributor on Mediaite, as well as being on some of Hannity’s panels. I’d say he’s just under 30-ish…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 27, 2014 at 11:41 PM

It’s kinda easy to be the most conservative person at Mediaite.

reddevil on May 27, 2014 at 11:47 PM

Not a fan of wine or brandy myself. Just those pink things Newtie makes for me with the umbrella in it. ;)

Judge_Dredd on May 27, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Those are called Pink Ladies.

RickB on May 27, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Houses of the Holy

KCB on May 27, 2014 at 11:48 PM

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