Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on May 22, 2014 by Allahpundit

VA Secretary Eric Shinseki issued a message to all veterans Thursday defending his leadership and promising to fix delays in care that have rocked his agency and the Obama administration in recent days…

Shinseki used the message to cite accomplishments during his nearly six years of leadership.

He noted that allegations of VA employees’ misconduct have surfaced over the last several weeks, beginning with scheduling delays at the Phoenix VA and said that if found to be true “we will act.”

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President Obama’s poor handling of the mismanagement at the Department of Veterans Affairs could plague his presidency as an all-time low point, says National Journal’s Ron Fournier.

“The fact of the matter is the political response to this thing has been both dishonest and way too weak,” he said on Wednesday’s Special Report. “I think this may be one of the lowest points of his presidency.”

Fournier said not only has the Obama administration been misleading in its response to allegations of incidents of malpractice in VA facilities across the country that led to the death of several veterans waiting for care, but also that President Obama has failed to live up to his promise to improve the department.

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The VA is an island of socialism in American health care. It generally provides adequate care — to a limited universe of people and for only certain conditions — but has been plagued by scandal for decades. It is perhaps the worst bureaucracy in the federal government. As with all such single-payer-type systems, the cost of the notionally free health care is in the rationing, in this case the wait times that have had desperately ill vets hung out to dry for months.

Paul Waldman wrote a blog post in The Washington Post Wednesday imploring President Barack Obama to fix the VA to redeem the liberal vision of government. If six years into his presidency he has yet to fix the VA he promised to fix before he took office, that’s either an indictment of his presidency or the liberal vision of government or both.

As my National Review colleague Jonah Goldberg points out, the usual excuses don’t apply here. The existence of the VA isn’t politically controversial. No one is trying to repeal it, or “sabotage” it. It hasn’t lacked for funds. Its budget has been increasing at a rapid clip. What we’re seeing is simply unaccountable bureaucracy in action.

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As the fallout from the Veterans Administration cooking of the books and the related deaths of over three dozen veterans continues, President Obama took to the podium on Wednesday to explain that problems at the VA are nothing new. On Wednesday, President Obama took to the podium to first express his tremendous anger – VA Secretary Eric Shinseki was “mad as hell” but President Obama was “madder than hell,” thus winning the rage sweepstakes – and then explained that the VA’s issues go back years…

Obama’s statement, however, was remarkably short on actual solutions for the VA. Throwing money at the problem hasn’t fixed it: using 2011 dollars, America spent $88.8 billion on the VA in 2007, and $125.3 billion on the VA in 2012.

And herein lies the problem for the left: the failures at the VA, including its bureaucratic incompetence, its waiting lists, and its deaths, all debunk the notion that a government-run healthcare system will work. It’s a fresh slap in the face to all those commentators who, in pushing Obamacare, endorsed the VA as a model.

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[In 2006 Paul Krugman] explained, “pundits and policy makers don’t talk about the veterans’ system because they can’t handle the cognitive dissonance. … For the lesson of the V.H.A.’s success story — that a government agency can deliver better care at lower cost than the private sector — runs completely counter to the pro-privatization, anti-government conventional wisdom that dominates today’s Washington.”…

In a 2007 article for the American Prospect, Ezra Klein also praised the system’s outcomes. “What makes this such an explosive story is that the VHA is a truly socialized medical system,” Klein wrote. “The unquestioned leader in American health care is a government agency that employs 198,000 federal workers from five different unions, and nonetheless maintains short wait times and high consumer satisfaction.”…

The description of the system offered by liberals stands in stark contrast to the horrifying reality depicted in recent reports on how the veterans’ health care system has neglected patients and covered up wait times – at a deadly cost…

Last September, I spent time in England researching the socialized British medical system, the National Health Service, for the Examiner’s magazine edition, and encountered similar stories – of patient neglect and an unaccountable bureaucracy focused on gaming the system so they could claim to be meeting targets.

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Today, we know the VA is anything but a model for health care reform, but this is not a new revelation. Obama truly did inherit a miserably defective VA system, but it was one he campaigned on changing. Now, more than five years into his presidency, that VA’s cascading failures have grown too grotesque to ignore.

We know that, not only were veterans receiving substandard care, but a system-wide initiative to hide the VA’s failures from those responsible for the administration’s oversight. That’s not merely negligence; it’s malfeasance and the cruelest form of corruption.

Given the gravity of the problem and the urgency of the need to provide medical care for veterans, even progressive lawmakers like Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) are conceding the need for an emergency infusion of what the administration once conceded was standard “private sector velocity.”

That’s good advice. Maybe those self-appointed policy wonks who have been ignoring the VA’s problems for years will have the courtesy of putting their ideological obsession with socialized medicine on the back burner for a few days in order to allow America’s veterans to get the care they need.

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The liberal left, the “progressive” left, the socialist left, the communist left, and whatever other left, will employ the VA scandal as a case study of what happens not when government takes over and destroys healthcare but of what happens when government healthcare is not adequately funded. The problem, leftists will insist, is not government centralization, management, and planning, but the failure of cruel and miserly Republicans to fully fund what needs to be funded.

If you haven’t noticed, liberals are taking to websites and radio and TV right now to make just that point. They will continue to do so in the decades ahead as government devours more and more of the private healthcare industry. Even if radical leftists somehow achieve their utopian dream of a total federal takeover of every hospital, they will always argue that the subsequent disastrous system—replete with inefficiencies, rationing, and unnecessary death—has nothing to do with the nature of government or government management; no, they will always insist that the failures result from inadequate funding. They do that now with public schools. They will do it on steroids with healthcare.

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In his speech on the VA, the president said that he would not stand for things that he clearly and undeniably has stood for some years now, and swore that he would not tolerate that which has has been tolerating since 2009.

He’s been described as acting like a bystander to his own presidency, but it’s more like he’s a victim of it, as though the presidency were this terrible thing that just happened to him one day that he’s now courageously dealing with…

It’s a remarkable talent he has. When he was getting beat up politically for his association with that goofy racist clergyman, he lectured us on the evils of racism, as though we’d been the ones sitting in on those hateful sermons. Every time he has some spectacular screw-up, which seems to be about once a quarter, he pronounces himself outraged, as though he had not failed us but had been failed himself.

So Barack Obama has sworn that he will not tolerate the incompetence of the Obama administration. I’d like to think that that means he is going to resign, but I don’t think that’s what he meant.

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Whatever the disagreements about the long wars of the past decades, Democrats and Republicans agree that we must fully honor the debt we have incurred to the tiny fraction of the population that does the fighting for the rest of us. Yes, the budget for the VA has risen sharply since 2002. But the number of returning veterans has risen even faster. Many live with grievous wounds from which they would have succumbed in previous conflicts. Many others struggle with the multiple effects of repeated deployments. Aging Vietnam-era patients require more care, and new responsibilities such as coping with Agent Orange add to the VA’s burden…

The Congressional Budget Office’s latest budget projections showed that between 2013 and 2024, discretionary spending—defense and nondefense—is scheduled to fall from 7.2% of GDP to 5.1%, the lowest share since at least 1962. With only five cents out of each dollar of national income, we are supposed to defend the country, care for veterans, address the needs of children and the poor—and invest in the research, education and infrastructure on which America’s future depends. It can’t be done…

Ten years from now, the funds available for the military and domestic programs will buy less than they do today. Meanwhile, costs in both categories are likely to rise faster than the rate of inflation. “Doing more with less” is a catchy slogan, but it only diverts attention from the real problem: the contradiction between our needs and the resources we commit to meet them.

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Via Greg Hengler.

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it’s called genuine leadership.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Compared to the jaw-dropping incompetence of Obama and the rest of his idiot administration, you might actually be right!

Chuck Schick on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

My upgrade key for some software ended in TWRP.

That spooked me.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

These frog green tights are for theatrical purposes. I’m peter pan and he is not even in the play. But he still wears them.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Solidarity! BTW, Green is your color, for realz!

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Yeah, I did, didn’t I… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM

I’m leery of clicking your links. My computer has been rickrolled so much lately I’m afraid it might be gay now. :D

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Obama’s theme song

RickB on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I thought it was dis-a one

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

CL!

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Hopey the Circus Clown, er,..Bear:

Rebecca Sinderbrand @sinderbrand · 7h

Obama, re yesterday’s walk: “I’m like the circus bear that breaks the chain, and everyone starts whispering – the bear is loose”

https://twitter.com/sinderbrand

canopfor on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Private health insurance in the UK was at 11% in 2011. That data was prior to the time that the LCP scandal broke the news.

They’ve become more favorable to the idea of private enterprise in healthcare since that time.

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

:D

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

LOLZ! LMAO…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Beauty…

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

ObamaCare. Because liberal idiots believe bureaucrats as long as they pretend to care about them.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Who would ever do such a thing?

cozmo on May 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

I’m going to tell you the same thing I told Our Absent Member: I will never Rick-roll you. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

I am everywhere….like Ebola and the plague.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

The terrorists in Gitmo have a 1.5 to 1 doctor ratio of treatment.

They have no waiting lists.

They are treated manifold better than the Veterans.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Of course, just like that traitor tranny Manning.
Hussein’s allegiance is rock solid.

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Rebecca Sinderbrand @sinderbrand · 57m

Obama, in Chicago: “The problem is not that we’re too mean or we’re too partisan. The problem is that I don’t have enough votes. Full stop.”

https://twitter.com/sinderbrand

canopfor on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

(waving) Hi!

CoffeeLover on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

I am everywhere….like Ebola and the plague.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

We know…

cozmo on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Of course Angle food cake is square and Pie is Round.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I thought pie are squared.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

For states that didn’t expand Medicaid, it’s a means of having hospitals put pressure on politicians for Medicaid expansion to occur.

But in CA, I think it’s going to backfire in other ways.

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Yep, your going to see some hospital closures.
Also, I have often wondered why Medicaid patients show up more than the Unisured–I think it’s because the uninsured are a far more intellectually diverse group, many of whom are savvy enough to understand what is and is not an emergency, and to allocate their dollars to the true emergencies. From my experience, long term adult Medicaid patients tend to be unable to differentiate between an emergency and an inconvenience. Also, they have Medicaid, so they view it as “free”. More medicaid patients show up in the ER than uninsured, even IF THEY HAVE A DOCTOR. Interestingly enough, we stopped accepting adult medicaid in my office because they were so unreliable in terms of keeping their appointments.

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

that’s a compliment coming from the kind of person who probably thinks watching cars driving around in circles for hours is interesting.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

I got it! I got the joke.lol. Today was my first time seeing your user name, but I get the joke.

Your username is ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch, so you go around saying a lot of things, you know makes no sense BECAUSE That is what happen when your brain is on Koch. You say and do silly things. Lol

You are trying to live to your username. You think the Koch makes people retarted.

Just whisper if I am right.lol

coolrepublica on May 22, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Where are jackie and B9? B9 has been cheating on us with the day shift (Saw it with my own eyes). Haven’t seen the Moon Goddess.

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Evening J_D – good to have you around.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Thank you sir! Unless I’m mistaken you’ve been around the longest of the night crew. ;)

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:25 PM

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Ken…(waving) hugs!

CoffeeLover on May 22, 2014 at 11:26 PM

The Guess Who – No Time

RickB on May 22, 2014 at 11:26 PM

#8 As families struggle to pay their bills, many of them are increasingly turning to debt in order to make ends meet. Earlier this month we learned that total U.S. household debt has increased for three quarters in a row. And as I noted in one recent article, total consumer credit in the United States has increased by 22 percent over the past three years, and 56 percent of all Americans have “subprime credit” at this point.

Murphy9 on May 22, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Hi all. Lurking lately. Never see many of our favorite trolls. You guys run them all off?

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Fallon on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Whaddya know–a POUTS who’s motto is “A fool and his money soon go separate ways”…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

You’re not missing frank already are you?

(RUNS QUICKLY AWAY)

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:28 PM

B9 has been cheating on us with the day shift

Still gonna take her back. It’s B9!

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:28 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Are you working on the sequel? “Manure Meets Oscillating Fan”? :P

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

I’m going to tell you the same thing I told Our Absent Member: I will never Rick-roll you. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

No, she will rick-roll someone else and catch you in the crossfire.

RickB on May 22, 2014 at 11:29 PM

My upgrade key for some software ended in TWRP.

That spooked me.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

It glared at you?

Who would ever do such a thing?

cozmo on May 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Not miss Newtie. Nope.

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

You are trying to live to your username. You think the Koch makes people retarted.

coolrepublica on May 22, 2014 at 11:25 PM

the koch doesn’t make people retarded, the koch makes them less free and have a harder time getting ahead in this country. the koch makes their democracy work less for the little guy and more for the robber barons. if you buy enough elections you can buy the whole country.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Hi all. Lurking lately. Never see many of our favorite trolls. You guys run them all off?

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Ever since Lance aka Danceman was banned, a lot of them went MIA for some reason…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

The terrorists in Gitmo have a 1.5 to 1 doctor ratio of treatment.

They have no waiting lists.

They are treated manifold better than the Veterans.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Of course. They also have high-priced but pro-bono Manhattan lawyers representing them. That’s the admission price those law firms pay for entry to the proggie cabal.

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

In the interest of fairness, I have a friend in England and she has had no problem with their health care. From things she lets drop about her and her mother’s health it sounds like they haven’t had any trouble. BUT, she doesn’t live in the big city.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

There’s a couple of substandard clones here, Hawk. Might prove interesting once dale1 shows up ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Good to spot a sharp one:)

Watch the Cuban escapee…she just figured out the koched one :)

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Things haven’t been going their way lately.

All but the stupidest of them are in hiding.

cozmo on May 22, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Cross Eyed Mary

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Indian Counsulate under attack in Heraat , AfCrapistan
Ongoing

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Private health insurance in the UK was at 11% in 2011. That data was prior to the time that the LCP scandal broke the news.

They’ve become more favorable to the idea of private enterprise in healthcare since that time.

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

The thrust of Resist’s broader argument. People with socialized medicine are trying to move away from it. The criticisms about the quality of it and the criticisms about the sustainability of it are legitimate. The people having to deal with it are trying to reform it, and their reforms are back toward a free market.

Only here, where we haven’t lived under it, are Progressives still clamoring for it. It’s the same blindness and muddle-headedness of American and European thinkers (and want-to-be thinkers, like woefully self-aggrandizing college students) clamoring for Communism. To hell with the smoking ruin — that’s an anomaly. We’ll get it right this time.

Refusing to learn from the VA is willfully choosing ignorance.

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:32 PM

No, she will rick-roll someone else and catch you in the crossfire.

RickB on May 22, 2014 at 11:29 PM

That would be “collateral damage,” but sometimes those things can’t be helped. Of course, said link would show up for Judge as a purple link, so he should be safe ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Hi all. Lurking lately. Never see many of our favorite trolls. You guys run them all off?

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Ever since Lance aka Danceman was banned, a lot of them went MIA for some reason…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Haven’t heard from ditzo/lester since this hit:

Rabbi, Scout Leader, Cop Among 71 Arrested in Child Porn Bust

Libbie still around tho.

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

I worked in the ER of a Trauma center, many moons ago…just registration. But even then, utilization of resources by Medicaid patients was through the roof.

Do you think Urgent Care could be encouraged? Or is it just habit for most of them?

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Hi all. Lurking lately. Never see many of our favorite trolls. You guys run them all off?

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

They’re huddled around their talking points drop. Waiting…

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM

A real stupid congresscritter on display.

May all the race-hucksters be punished, harshly.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Is this HotHair.comb ?

Im lost

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:35 PM

what’s obama doing wrong? presidenting campaigning ?

ThisIsYourBrainOnDrugs on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

…hey CokeHead!…he’s campaigned for six years now!…my daughter was just on the freeway in Chicago…and guess what limo went by?…she flipped him the bird!…I love her!

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Four Seasons ~ Vivaldi since I keep getting a commercial for it on utube.

RickB on May 22, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:34 PM

One would think that, after all this time, the race-baited would’ve caught on that they were being used, wouldn’t one…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Watch the Cuban escapee…she just figured out the koched one :)

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Dominican, actually. I picture coolrepublica looking similar to Sade.

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

the koch doesn’t make people retarded, the koch makes them less free and have a harder time getting ahead in this country. the koch makes their democracy work less for the little guy and more for the robber barons. if you buy enough elections you can buy the whole country.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

So you think rich republicans are the only ones buying elections? Or you think rich democrats just don’t care enough to want buy some of their own?

Do you watch PBS?

coolrepublica on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Yeah, I’ve had that particular argument with Liberal supporters of single payer more times than I can count. All across the globe, nations are moving to hybrid systems. Australia is actually giving subsidies to BUY PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE so they can reduce the burden of cost the government is carrying!!!

It doesn’t matter to Progressives. They’re so stuck in the glory days of the New Deal that they couldn’t see reality if it smacked them up side the head.

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Hi all. Lurking lately. Never see many of our favorite trolls. You guys run them all off?

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Hi, Hawk, Ken, everyone. Hope all’s well. :)

My upgrade key for some software ended in TWRP.

That spooked me.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

That would spook anyone.

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

The Grove of Eglantine.

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Hi all. Lurking lately. Never see many of our favorite trolls. You guys run them all off?

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Their handlers are out of ideas.

Their idiotic idol is in a deep heap of manure. But, he had on his calendar today:

1. Delayed flights, as if that’s new.

2. Sports

3. D-latrine fundraising

Also, he’s “madder than Hell” over the VA. Can you tell by his calendar?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Come into the light, Sparkie!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

I wonder if BMore will say Schad and Schad will say BMore.

I wonder about many things.

What we need is a working intercom button on Dires Front door.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:38 PM

…hey CokeHead!…he’s campaigned for six years now!…my daughter was just on the freeway in Chicago…and guess what limo went by?…she flipped him the bird!…I love her!

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2014 at 11:35 PM

blah blah blah. bush did it too and you know it. but at least people had enough respect for the office not to make obscene gestures at him. you guys didn’t do that clinton either. everything changed in 2008. i wonder why..(‘one of these things is not like the other’)

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

One would think that, after all this time, the race-baited would’ve caught on that they were being used, wouldn’t one…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:36 PM

No. We called these people stupid for a reason lol.

non-nonpartisan on May 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

I worked in the ER of a Trauma center, many moons ago…just registration. But even then, utilization of resources by Medicaid patients was through the roof.

Do you think Urgent Care could be encouraged? Or is it just habit for most of them?

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM

UC’s can take up some of the slack. Never the less, the 24 hour availability of the ER makes it attractive to those who don’t want to wait, or don’t believe they can. The ONLY thing that would slow them down is giving them some financial responsibility for the bill right from the start.
That is the basis of their behavior–the care is 24 hour, and it’s “free”. As long as that second condition exists, there will be no change in the behavior, other options notwithstanding.

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Hi all. Lurking lately. Never see many of our favorite trolls. You guys run them all off?

hawkdriver on May 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM

hawkdriver:

Evening Hawk,.. Ugh,..The99%ObamaZombieLowInfoVoterBots:)

canopfor on May 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Oh yeah…glory days

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Judge_Dredd, I know, but keep it low key.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

the koch doesn’t make people retarded, the koch makes them less free and have a harder time getting ahead in this country. the koch makes their democracy work less for the little guy and more for the robber barons. if you buy enough elections you can buy the whole country.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Wow- so what is you brain on? Meth? Model glue?

The reason I’m asking because you come off like a blithering moron.

Chuck Schick on May 22, 2014 at 11:40 PM

This is why you can’t convince liberals that socialism doesn’t work. They always think if only enough money is spent it will. I sdon’t know where they think all that money is going to come frome. I’m convinced they think money is virual.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Chuck Schick, you’ve been koched. The nom also has a brother, dale1, same stick.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Or schtick

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

*glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

crankyoldlady, any word on HonestLib?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Wow- so what is you brain on? Meth? Model glue?

The reason I’m asking because you come off like a blithering moron.

Chuck Schick on May 22, 2014 at 11:40 PM

It’s called “trolling.”

non-nonpartisan on May 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

That was beautiful Newtie.

15,628,536 views.

Elvis Presley – That’s Alright Mama

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

blah blah blah. bush did it too and you know it. but at least people had enough respect for the office not to make obscene gestures at him…

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

don’t tempt me

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:42 PM

crankyoldlady, any word on HonestLib?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Didn’t he have another house that he was at the last time we didn’t hear from him. He probably just doesn’t realize we notice he’s gone. I don’t remember where he lives.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Chuck Schick on May 22, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Model glue has been falsely maligned.

cozmo on May 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM

So who is supposed to thwack her when Lanceman is not here?

Not me.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Socialists also believe that the reason it didn’t work for the Other Guy was because HE/SHE (the current leader, that is) wasn’t in charge.

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Bush was called a chimpey.

obama hasn’t been called one.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

So you think rich republicans are the only ones buying elections? Or you think rich democrats just don’t care enough to want buy some of their own?

Do you watch PBS?

coolrepublica on May 22, 2014 at 11:37 PM

money in politics like we have now is a bad thing all around. but since scotus made corporations people and their rich owners able to rig the game, its only fair that democrats do it too. but theres a huge difference between people like the kochs who buy elections to benefit themselves and grow their already unprecedented profits and the other people who actually use politics as a form of philanthropy to help the little guy, save the environment, stand up for oppressed minorities, fight for better health care, etc.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

ROFL. Something for Newtie to Get Saucy About

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Light Up!

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

I don’t remember where he lives.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Alabama…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM

*smooooch!*

WOW!! Look at that propeller SPIN!! :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

You just made coolpubica wet her panties.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Model glue has been falsely maligned.

cozmo on May 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM

And Duct tape has been given a pass because of corrupt Washington lobbyists.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

I don’t remember where he lives.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Alabama…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Have not heard from him. And it’s not a weather thing, it’s been nice.

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:46 PM

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

i confess. I love that song.

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Alabama…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Right. I remember. Near Florida.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:46 PM

money in politics like we have now is a bad thing all around. but since scotus made corporations people and their rich owners able to rig the game, its only fair that democrats do it too. but theres a huge difference between people like the kochs who buy elections to benefit themselves and grow their already unprecedented profits and the other people who actually use politics as a form of philanthropy to help the little guy, save the environment, stand up for oppressed minorities, fight for better health care, etc.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Like the $1,000,000,000 (billion) that Obama raised in 2012.

RickB on May 22, 2014 at 11:46 PM

I just scroll right past koch’s vapid posts——don’t even read hem. Probably the sock of someone I like and respect, but it fails…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:46 PM

what’s obama doing wrong? presidenting campaigning ?

ThisIsYourBrainOnDrugs on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnDrugs:

https://twitter.com/markknoller

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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 2952h

Pres Obama spending the night at his home in Chicago. Will fly back to DC Friday.
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The pres told Dem donors the reason he can’t more done is he doesm’t have enough votes in Congress. He urged Dems to vote in the midterms.
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At 2nd fundraiser tonight, Pres Obama told donors he needs a new Congress but at a minimum – has to retain a Democratic Senate.
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Donovan would fill the vacancy created when Pres Obama nominated Budget Dir Burwell to succeed Sebelius at HHS.
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Also tomorrow: Pres Obama will formally announce another Cabinet shuffle: Donovan from HUD to OMB. San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro to HUD.
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Addressing 100 Dem donors paying between $1,000 and $32,400 each, Pres Obama said “it”s not good enough to sit back and simply complain.
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POTUS said that if Dems don’t keep the majority in the Senate and make gains in the House, immigration reform may be dead.
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“That cannot happen in this election because the stakes are too high,” said Obama about too many Dems sitting out the midterms.
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Again tonight, Pres Obama lamented that too many Democrats don’t feel a sense of urgency about the midterm elections.
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“I see a lot of friends,” said Pres Obama at 1st of 2 Dem fundraisers. “All of you look the same & and I look like Morgan Freeman.”
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Correction to previous tweet: Durbin is Senate Majority Whip. Long day.
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Pres Obama now at 1st of two DSCC fundraisers in Chicago. Also raising money for Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin’s re-election campaign.
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Tomorrow: Pres Obama signs bills authorizing Congressional gold medals to honor the “Doolittle Tokyo Raiders” and “American Fighter Aces.”
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More poll: 45% disapprove of Pres Obama’s handling of the V.A., 29% approve, 25% not paying attention or have no opinion.
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More from that @CBSNewsPoll on the V.A.: 45% of those surveyed say Shinseki should resign, 31% say no, 24% don’t know.
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The policy remarks at the Hall of Fame served to reduce the cost the DSCC would otherwise have to reimburse the Government.
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Pres Obama now on his way to Chicago to do two fundraisers for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
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canopfor on May 22, 2014 at 11:46 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

um…o…k…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:47 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Wow 3650 rpms recorded using o_Oscars strobe-o-scope propeller spin meter gadget. Batteries not included.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:47 PM

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Hey, do it now! :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:48 PM

You just made coolpubica wet her panties.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Now her pubicas are cool and wet.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:48 PM

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:46 PM

I do too. It just has this vibe to that is distinct!

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:49 PM

My upgrade key for some software ended in TWRP.

That spooked me.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Did the key glare at you?

oscarwilde on May 22, 2014 at 11:49 PM

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