Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on May 22, 2014 by Allahpundit

VA Secretary Eric Shinseki issued a message to all veterans Thursday defending his leadership and promising to fix delays in care that have rocked his agency and the Obama administration in recent days…

Shinseki used the message to cite accomplishments during his nearly six years of leadership.

He noted that allegations of VA employees’ misconduct have surfaced over the last several weeks, beginning with scheduling delays at the Phoenix VA and said that if found to be true “we will act.”

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President Obama’s poor handling of the mismanagement at the Department of Veterans Affairs could plague his presidency as an all-time low point, says National Journal’s Ron Fournier.

“The fact of the matter is the political response to this thing has been both dishonest and way too weak,” he said on Wednesday’s Special Report. “I think this may be one of the lowest points of his presidency.”

Fournier said not only has the Obama administration been misleading in its response to allegations of incidents of malpractice in VA facilities across the country that led to the death of several veterans waiting for care, but also that President Obama has failed to live up to his promise to improve the department.

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The VA is an island of socialism in American health care. It generally provides adequate care — to a limited universe of people and for only certain conditions — but has been plagued by scandal for decades. It is perhaps the worst bureaucracy in the federal government. As with all such single-payer-type systems, the cost of the notionally free health care is in the rationing, in this case the wait times that have had desperately ill vets hung out to dry for months.

Paul Waldman wrote a blog post in The Washington Post Wednesday imploring President Barack Obama to fix the VA to redeem the liberal vision of government. If six years into his presidency he has yet to fix the VA he promised to fix before he took office, that’s either an indictment of his presidency or the liberal vision of government or both.

As my National Review colleague Jonah Goldberg points out, the usual excuses don’t apply here. The existence of the VA isn’t politically controversial. No one is trying to repeal it, or “sabotage” it. It hasn’t lacked for funds. Its budget has been increasing at a rapid clip. What we’re seeing is simply unaccountable bureaucracy in action.

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As the fallout from the Veterans Administration cooking of the books and the related deaths of over three dozen veterans continues, President Obama took to the podium on Wednesday to explain that problems at the VA are nothing new. On Wednesday, President Obama took to the podium to first express his tremendous anger – VA Secretary Eric Shinseki was “mad as hell” but President Obama was “madder than hell,” thus winning the rage sweepstakes – and then explained that the VA’s issues go back years…

Obama’s statement, however, was remarkably short on actual solutions for the VA. Throwing money at the problem hasn’t fixed it: using 2011 dollars, America spent $88.8 billion on the VA in 2007, and $125.3 billion on the VA in 2012.

And herein lies the problem for the left: the failures at the VA, including its bureaucratic incompetence, its waiting lists, and its deaths, all debunk the notion that a government-run healthcare system will work. It’s a fresh slap in the face to all those commentators who, in pushing Obamacare, endorsed the VA as a model.

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[In 2006 Paul Krugman] explained, “pundits and policy makers don’t talk about the veterans’ system because they can’t handle the cognitive dissonance. … For the lesson of the V.H.A.’s success story — that a government agency can deliver better care at lower cost than the private sector — runs completely counter to the pro-privatization, anti-government conventional wisdom that dominates today’s Washington.”…

In a 2007 article for the American Prospect, Ezra Klein also praised the system’s outcomes. “What makes this such an explosive story is that the VHA is a truly socialized medical system,” Klein wrote. “The unquestioned leader in American health care is a government agency that employs 198,000 federal workers from five different unions, and nonetheless maintains short wait times and high consumer satisfaction.”…

The description of the system offered by liberals stands in stark contrast to the horrifying reality depicted in recent reports on how the veterans’ health care system has neglected patients and covered up wait times – at a deadly cost…

Last September, I spent time in England researching the socialized British medical system, the National Health Service, for the Examiner’s magazine edition, and encountered similar stories – of patient neglect and an unaccountable bureaucracy focused on gaming the system so they could claim to be meeting targets.

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Today, we know the VA is anything but a model for health care reform, but this is not a new revelation. Obama truly did inherit a miserably defective VA system, but it was one he campaigned on changing. Now, more than five years into his presidency, that VA’s cascading failures have grown too grotesque to ignore.

We know that, not only were veterans receiving substandard care, but a system-wide initiative to hide the VA’s failures from those responsible for the administration’s oversight. That’s not merely negligence; it’s malfeasance and the cruelest form of corruption.

Given the gravity of the problem and the urgency of the need to provide medical care for veterans, even progressive lawmakers like Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) are conceding the need for an emergency infusion of what the administration once conceded was standard “private sector velocity.”

That’s good advice. Maybe those self-appointed policy wonks who have been ignoring the VA’s problems for years will have the courtesy of putting their ideological obsession with socialized medicine on the back burner for a few days in order to allow America’s veterans to get the care they need.

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The liberal left, the “progressive” left, the socialist left, the communist left, and whatever other left, will employ the VA scandal as a case study of what happens not when government takes over and destroys healthcare but of what happens when government healthcare is not adequately funded. The problem, leftists will insist, is not government centralization, management, and planning, but the failure of cruel and miserly Republicans to fully fund what needs to be funded.

If you haven’t noticed, liberals are taking to websites and radio and TV right now to make just that point. They will continue to do so in the decades ahead as government devours more and more of the private healthcare industry. Even if radical leftists somehow achieve their utopian dream of a total federal takeover of every hospital, they will always argue that the subsequent disastrous system—replete with inefficiencies, rationing, and unnecessary death—has nothing to do with the nature of government or government management; no, they will always insist that the failures result from inadequate funding. They do that now with public schools. They will do it on steroids with healthcare.

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In his speech on the VA, the president said that he would not stand for things that he clearly and undeniably has stood for some years now, and swore that he would not tolerate that which has has been tolerating since 2009.

He’s been described as acting like a bystander to his own presidency, but it’s more like he’s a victim of it, as though the presidency were this terrible thing that just happened to him one day that he’s now courageously dealing with…

It’s a remarkable talent he has. When he was getting beat up politically for his association with that goofy racist clergyman, he lectured us on the evils of racism, as though we’d been the ones sitting in on those hateful sermons. Every time he has some spectacular screw-up, which seems to be about once a quarter, he pronounces himself outraged, as though he had not failed us but had been failed himself.

So Barack Obama has sworn that he will not tolerate the incompetence of the Obama administration. I’d like to think that that means he is going to resign, but I don’t think that’s what he meant.

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Whatever the disagreements about the long wars of the past decades, Democrats and Republicans agree that we must fully honor the debt we have incurred to the tiny fraction of the population that does the fighting for the rest of us. Yes, the budget for the VA has risen sharply since 2002. But the number of returning veterans has risen even faster. Many live with grievous wounds from which they would have succumbed in previous conflicts. Many others struggle with the multiple effects of repeated deployments. Aging Vietnam-era patients require more care, and new responsibilities such as coping with Agent Orange add to the VA’s burden…

The Congressional Budget Office’s latest budget projections showed that between 2013 and 2024, discretionary spending—defense and nondefense—is scheduled to fall from 7.2% of GDP to 5.1%, the lowest share since at least 1962. With only five cents out of each dollar of national income, we are supposed to defend the country, care for veterans, address the needs of children and the poor—and invest in the research, education and infrastructure on which America’s future depends. It can’t be done…

Ten years from now, the funds available for the military and domestic programs will buy less than they do today. Meanwhile, costs in both categories are likely to rise faster than the rate of inflation. “Doing more with less” is a catchy slogan, but it only diverts attention from the real problem: the contradiction between our needs and the resources we commit to meet them.

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Via Greg Hengler.

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Ratso!!!!!

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Quick’s Draw…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Bishop! (Old Skool)

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Who cares, did you here what Phil Robertson said.

RickB on May 22, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Why exactly should ShitShakey keep his job ?

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Blah blah blah.

coolrepublica on May 22, 2014 at 10:47 PM

President Obama’s poor handling of the mismanagement at the Department of Veterans Affairs could plague his presidency as an all-time low point

Did I not see a poll today where only 17% assign Obama blame? I supposed it could plague his presidency. And I suppose monkeys could fly out of my butt, too.

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Blah blah blah.

coolrepublica on May 22, 2014 at 10:47 PM

This!! Awesome post!

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 10:44 PM

My internet connection went down last night, but Ratso woke up feistier than ever. Evidently he wasn’t hung over…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Calling all Wenches, Rude Buffoons, loons and trolls…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Doc, Judge, OC…..

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Why exactly should ShitShakey keep his job ?

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 10:46 PM

obama’s not going to fire him when there’s no evidence he did anything wrong. obama’s not a capricious despot like the kind of leader you apparently admire. he’s fair to those he employs. he is loyal to them and recognizes their service. he’s not going to leave any man behind just because the toothless villagers are calling for tar and feathers. it’s called genuine leadership.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM

President Obama’s poor handling of the mismanagement at the Department of Veterans Affairs could plague his presidency as an all-time low point

Like he gives a damn.
He will be a multi-billionaire before the end of this year and his next 7 generations will live like royalty on our dime for the rest of their lives.
You really think it bothers him what they write about him in some history book 100 years from now ?

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Doc, Judge, OC…..

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Huh?

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Anyone else lose or give back their VA staff bonuses? All that money going out to people for keeping veterans on wait-lists. They need to get that money back.

Fallon on May 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Why exactly should ShitShakey keep his job ?

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 10:46 PM

obama’s not going to fire him when there’s no evidence he did anything wrong. obama’s not a capricious despot like the kind of leader you apparently admire. he’s fair to those he employs. he is loyal to them and recognizes their service. he’s not going to leave any man behind just because the toothless villagers are calling for tar and feathers. it’s called genuine leadership.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM

You are either high OR you were born in 2009 and was grown in a secret military base. Lol

I will be fair to Obama, but come on. Throwing people under the bus is how he got elected. Man, at one point the bus was so full of people under it, they had to get a new bus.

coolrepublica on May 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM

We know that, not only were veterans receiving substandard care, but a system-wide initiative to hide the VA’s failures from those responsible for the administration’s oversight. That’s not merely negligence; it’s malfeasance and the cruelest form of corruption.

I hope they keep stressing this to the public.

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM

obama’s not going to fire him when there’s no evidence he did anything wrong.
ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Is there any evidence that Shaky did anything right ?
Anything ?

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Charles C. W. Cooke takes you on a guided tour of Britain’s lovely NHS and the politics surrounding it….a must read…

Most amazing part of all this is how some British politicians still claim the NHS is “the envy of the world.”

Riiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhtttttt…….

Dream on, buddy.

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Like he gives a damn.
He will be a multi-billionaire before the end of this year and his next 7 generations will live like royalty on our dime for the rest of their lives.

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM

it burns your eyes seeing a black man succeed in this country doesn’t it? i don’t recall this type of reaction when bushes or clintons got rich.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:55 PM

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Just tippin’ my hat.

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

CW Cooke…

And here’s the link that didn’t come through before…

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Calling all Wenches, Rude Buffoons, loons and trolls…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Wrench, rude buffon, loon reporting for duty sir.

We are still waiting for troll to show up, sir.

coolrepublica on May 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Huh?

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM

[gives OC a Wet Willie...runs away, laughing madly...trips over skirts...]

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 10:57 PM

-Sir, there’s a veteran out in the waiting room, he says he needs medical attention now!

“Blah blah blah, tell him to go home and die. I’m busy looking at a new boat to spend my bonus on.”

Bishop on May 22, 2014 at 10:57 PM

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM

*Smooch*

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Hey, Doc! See this one about the ERs in CA?

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Has anyone figured out who this is?

Is AP or Ed trolling to get more posts?

This has to be the dumbest, weakest troll to ever post here on HA … which is why it seems like a fake troll.

Mark Boabaca on May 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:55 PM

awww

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Where’s your president?

CHICAGO — As President Obama hopscotched from one fundraiser to another here Thursday night, his role in the Democratic Party is clear: He has reemerged as fundraiser in chief

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Fallon on May 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

‘I can’t bear to think of her not existing’: The baby who survived an abortion and the mother racked by guilt that she may have harmed the child she now adores

Murphy9 on May 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Wow! Thanks for the link, murph…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

it burns your eyes seeing a black man succeed in this country doesn’t it? i don’t recall this type of reaction when bushes or clintons got rich.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:55 PM

See what I mean? No one can be THIS stupid.
“it burns your eyes seeing a black man succeed in this country”? Really?
Come on. Who talks like this tool? Who believes this tripe but someone who is pretending to troll?

Mark Boabaca on May 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

This has to be the dumbest, weakest troll to ever post here on HA … which is why it seems like a fake troll.

Mark Boabaca on May 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Then you missed Dale last night. KochForBrains has him beat in the intelligence department.

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Calling all Wenches, Rude Buffoons, loons and trolls…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Saucy (but Not Naughty) Wench reporting for dooty, SIR!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 10:57 PM

(Blushing beet red) Hey, Ken! ;-)

Whoa, Dude. I like being friendly and all that, but I’m just coming off a long-term, self-imposed stay-the-hell-away-from-men moratorium.

Don’t sneak up on me like that. It scares the dickens out of me!

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Rob Thomas.

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Hey, Doc! See this one about the ERs in CA?

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Makes sense, for some interconnected reasons–somewhat more people with insurance, but who can’t get doctors, showing up in ERs for care. Also, many of the new sign ups are medicaid’s–and Medicaid patients, NOT THE INSURED, show up the most in the ER.

This has been predicted by a number of conservative pundits. Will they get credit? Nah….

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Um, that was a drunk cat.

Fallon on May 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Then you missed Dale last night. KochForBrains has him beat in the intelligence department.

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

dale1 should demand a rematch…

[checks AP's supplies...oh goody! POPCORN!...]

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

it burns your eyes seeing a black man succeed in this country doesn’t it? i don’t recall this type of reaction when bushes or clintons got rich.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:55 PM

So I’m guessing you do not want another Clinton in the WH ?
BTW , pillaging the treasury is what islamic despots do after waging jihad .

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

That should say “NOT THE UNINSURED”

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM

The Koch thing came up since the last registration. He must be one of the PTB’s.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

I saw this and thought of you… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Fallon on May 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

and bush never did fundraisers when he was occupying the oval office? obama can walk and chew gum (and i’m not so sure bush had brain function enough to do that). what’s obama doing wrong? presidenting while black?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

… i don’t recall this type of reaction when bushes or clintons got rich.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 10:55 PM

You’re not too good at this. The Bush family was rich before they were elected. (GW Bush once owned the Chicago White Sox and then the Texas Rangers, I believe). And we routinely excoriate the Clintons for how they made their wealth while in office (Whitewater, etc.).

Mitoch55 on May 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

VA = Single payer

FAIL

Coming soon to every neighborhood in the country.

With the GOP surrender monkeys turning a blind eye the whole way.

D-fusit on May 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM

So I’m guessing you do not want another Clinton in the WH ?
BTW , pillaging the treasury is what islamic despots do after waging jihad .

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

oh noes! not the moooooooooooooooooooooooslims!

xenophobic bigot.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM

what’s obama doing wrong? presidenting while black?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

nope.
killing Americans because he is black

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM

I’m not sure why they thought it would end up otherwise. I’m also wondering how the cuts in DSH payments will impact hospitals with these increases.

Got any insights on that one?

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Um, that was a drunk cat.

Fallon on May 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Last night, it was a drunk wedge-head–Ratso’s an applehead meezer… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Saucy (but Not Naughty) Wench reporting for dooty, SIR!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Hehehe! You said dooty!:)

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:07 PM

What’s a DSH payment, lineholder?

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

LOVE it.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

xenophobic bigot.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM

coming from you, it is a compliment .

thank you

burrata on May 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

*Smooch*

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

bless yer heart

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Newtie’s Saucy Wench Song

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM

How To Deal With The VA Talking Points and Socialised Medicine Arguments

Healthcare standards in the UK are worse than in many former communist states despite billions of pounds of extra funding being pumped into the NHS.

The UK came in second from the bottom in bowel cancer survival, with only patients in the Czech Republic less likely to be alive five years after diagnosis. The survival rate in Britain was 51.6 per cent, compared with an OECD average of 57.4 per cent and 65.5 per cent in the US.

Britain also languishes near the bottom of the breast cancer league table, with a survival rate of 78.5 per cent. The OECD-wide average is 81.2 per cent.

Heart attack victims in Britain are also more likely to die after entering hospital than in most other developed nations.

Around 6.3 per cent of patients who have suffered a heart attack have passed away within 30 days of entering a British hospital – significantly higher than the 4.3 per cent average.

^ Whole thing is worth perusing.

– Then typesetting, casting into a molten hammer’s face, and pounding progs in the face with it.

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Hehehe! You said dooty!:)

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Yeah, I did, didn’t I… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM

This is just going to be a long slide. I think we’re passed the point of no return. The 2012 election was the last chance to turn the ship around, and it failed. This is just one facet of our decline.

man_ray on May 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM

what’s obama doing wrong? presidenting while black?

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

(whispers to koch) It’s because he’s gay!

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

This koch sock isn’t even amusing or witty. What a waste of a sock…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

obama can walk and chew gum

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

So can a cow. That’s quite a bar for the first Affirmative Action president…

Rix on May 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

This is quicker than my writing it out.

DHHS cut payments this year.

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

France claims it long ago achieved much of what today’s U.S. health-care overhaul is seeking: It covers everyone, and provides what supporters say is high-quality care. But soaring costs are pushing the system into crisis. The result: As Congress fights over whether America should be more like France, the French government is trying to borrow U.S. tactics.

In recent months, France imposed American-style “co-pays” on patients to try to throttle back prescription-drug costs and forced state hospitals to crack down on expenses. “A hospital doesn’t need to be money-losing to provide good-quality treatment,” President Nicolas Sarkozy thundered in a recent speech to doctors.

And service cuts — such as the closure of a maternity ward near Ms. Cuccarolo’s home — are prompting complaints from patients, doctors and nurses that care is being rationed. That concern echos worries among some Americans that the U.S. changes could lead to rationing.

The French system’s fragile solvency shows how tough it is to provide universal coverage while controlling costs, the professed twin goals of President Barack Obama’s proposed overhaul.

^ “r” word

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Evening all

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

I only went as far as “what a waste.”

CoffeeLover on May 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

This koch sock isn’t even amusing or witty. What a waste of a sock…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

that’s a compliment coming from the kind of person who probably thinks watching cars driving around in circles for hours is interesting.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM

ROFL! Determined to live dangerously, eh?

Ah, well, it’s virtual. Why not?

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

(whispers to koch) It’s because he’s gay!

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Great! Cat’s outta the bag now!

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM

I got your Saucy (but Not Naughty) Wench Song for you, LH… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

the toothless villagers are calling for tar and feathers. it’s called genuine leadership.

ThisIsYourBrainOnDrugs on May 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM

…your dick fell off…didn’t it?

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

The UK came in second from the bottom in bowel cancer survival, with only patients in the Czech Republic less likely to be alive five years after diagnosis. The survival rate in Britain was 51.6 per cent, compared with an OECD average of 57.4 per cent and 65.5 per cent in the US.

Bowel cancer is not a proper gauge for the UK. In no other European country people fill their bowels with such unimaginable crap, so their lousy healthcare is only partly responsible.

Rix on May 22, 2014 at 11:15 PM

A friend and I went to the viewing of a friend’s brother. We had to stand in line for about a half hour. He was a deacon so a lot of people knew him and then add his big family and her big family. I’m beat.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 11:15 PM

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Oh, I see. I didn’t know what that program was called. It’s regrettable. I don’t know if they actually believed their own hype about reducing ER visits, or if this is a way to try and force hospitals to eat more of the bill…or both, which is most likely…

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:15 PM

He is here. I see him.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM

I only went as far as “what a waste.”

CoffeeLover on May 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Ah, well, it’s virtual. Why not?

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

{Hugs!} You are one of us!

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

CoffeeLover on May 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

And here she is, Folks! :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Government has no other end, but the preservation of property.

John Locke

Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has any right to but himself. The labor of his body and the work of his hands are properly his.

John Locke

Whenever the power that is put in any hands for the government of the people, and the protection of our properties, is applied to other ends, and made use of to impoverish, harass or subdue them to the arbitrary and irregular commands of those that have it; there it presently becomes tyranny, whether those that thus use it are one or many.

John Locke

There remains still in the people a supreme power to remove or alter the legislative, when they find the legislative act contrary to the trust reposed in them.

John Locke

For a man’s property is not at all secure, though there be good and equitable laws to set the bounds of it, between him and his fellow subjects, if he who commands those subjects, have power to take from any private man, what part he pleases of his property, and use and dispose of it as he thinks good.

John Locke

And thus the community perpetually retains a supreme power of saving themselves from the attempts and designs of anybody, even of their legislators, whenever they shall be so foolish, or so wicked, as to lay and carry on designs against the liberties and properties of the subject.

John Locke

(Tyranny is) … when the governor, however entitled, makes not the law, but his will, the rule; and his commands and actions are not directed to the preservation of the properties of his people, but the satisfaction of his own ambition, revenge, covetousness, or any other irregular passion.

John Locke

For there are no examples so frequent in history, both sacred and profane, as those of men withdrawing themselves, and their obedience, from the jurisdiction they were born under, and the family or community they were bred up in, and setting up new governments in other places.

John Locke

Murphy9 on May 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Judge Dredd

LOL

CoffeeLover on May 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

This is just going to be a long slide. I think we’re passed the point of no return. The 2012 election was the last chance to turn the ship around, and it failed. This is just one facet of our decline.

man_ray on May 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM

I had that same horrible feeling election night in 2012. Que sera sera.

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

You’re a funny, angry nutcase.

March 16, 2014

President Obama has held 45 political fundraisers since beginning his second term — nearly double the number that President George W. Bush held at this point in his presidency.

It’s the one thing Obama is successful at doing, other than campaigning…

On the day after the U.S. Ambassador to Libya and three other Americans were killed in Benghazi, the White House on Wednesday morning released a schedule showing that President Obama would continue with his planned campaign trip to Las Vegas.

Fallon on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Hi Axe, Sparky! Why are you dressed alike?

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

CoffeeLover on May 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Coffee goes good with very dry pastries like crumble cakes. It also goes good with wet cake like sponge cake.

Of course Angle food cake is square and Pie is Round.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Doc Holliday on May 22, 2014 at 11:15 PM

For states that didn’t expand Medicaid, it’s a means of having hospitals put pressure on politicians for Medicaid expansion to occur.

But in CA, I think it’s going to backfire in other ways.

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

The Canadian Supreme Court struck down a Quebec law banning private medical insurance (in 2005), dealing an acute blow to the publicly financed national health care system . . .

The court ruled that the waiting lists had become so long that they violated patients’ “liberty, safety and security” under the Quebec charter, which covers about one-quarter of Canada’s population.

“The evidence in this case shows that delays in the public health care system are widespread and that in some serious cases, patients die as a result of waiting lists for public health care,” the Supreme Court ruled. “In sum, the prohibition on obtaining private health insurance is not constitutional where the public system fails to deliver reasonable services.”

^ the “waiting in line” bit

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Obama’s theme song

RickB on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

The terrorists in Gitmo have a 1.5 to 1 doctor ratio of treatment.

They have no waiting lists.

They are treated manifold better than the Veterans.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

o_O

Heh

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Hi Axe, Sparky! Why are you dressed alike?

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

These frog green tights are for theatrical purposes. I’m peter pan and he is not even in the play. But he still wears them.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2014 at 11:20 PM

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Moving that way ;-)

lineholder on May 22, 2014 at 11:20 PM

He is not.

Axe on May 22, 2014 at 11:20 PM

I had that same horrible feeling election night in 2012. Que sera sera.

Judge_Dredd on May 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Evening J_D – good to have you around.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

(waving) Aww :)

CoffeeLover on May 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

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