Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on May 22, 2014 by Allahpundit

VA Secretary Eric Shinseki issued a message to all veterans Thursday defending his leadership and promising to fix delays in care that have rocked his agency and the Obama administration in recent days…

Shinseki used the message to cite accomplishments during his nearly six years of leadership.

He noted that allegations of VA employees’ misconduct have surfaced over the last several weeks, beginning with scheduling delays at the Phoenix VA and said that if found to be true “we will act.”

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President Obama’s poor handling of the mismanagement at the Department of Veterans Affairs could plague his presidency as an all-time low point, says National Journal’s Ron Fournier.

“The fact of the matter is the political response to this thing has been both dishonest and way too weak,” he said on Wednesday’s Special Report. “I think this may be one of the lowest points of his presidency.”

Fournier said not only has the Obama administration been misleading in its response to allegations of incidents of malpractice in VA facilities across the country that led to the death of several veterans waiting for care, but also that President Obama has failed to live up to his promise to improve the department.

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The VA is an island of socialism in American health care. It generally provides adequate care — to a limited universe of people and for only certain conditions — but has been plagued by scandal for decades. It is perhaps the worst bureaucracy in the federal government. As with all such single-payer-type systems, the cost of the notionally free health care is in the rationing, in this case the wait times that have had desperately ill vets hung out to dry for months.

Paul Waldman wrote a blog post in The Washington Post Wednesday imploring President Barack Obama to fix the VA to redeem the liberal vision of government. If six years into his presidency he has yet to fix the VA he promised to fix before he took office, that’s either an indictment of his presidency or the liberal vision of government or both.

As my National Review colleague Jonah Goldberg points out, the usual excuses don’t apply here. The existence of the VA isn’t politically controversial. No one is trying to repeal it, or “sabotage” it. It hasn’t lacked for funds. Its budget has been increasing at a rapid clip. What we’re seeing is simply unaccountable bureaucracy in action.

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As the fallout from the Veterans Administration cooking of the books and the related deaths of over three dozen veterans continues, President Obama took to the podium on Wednesday to explain that problems at the VA are nothing new. On Wednesday, President Obama took to the podium to first express his tremendous anger – VA Secretary Eric Shinseki was “mad as hell” but President Obama was “madder than hell,” thus winning the rage sweepstakes – and then explained that the VA’s issues go back years…

Obama’s statement, however, was remarkably short on actual solutions for the VA. Throwing money at the problem hasn’t fixed it: using 2011 dollars, America spent $88.8 billion on the VA in 2007, and $125.3 billion on the VA in 2012.

And herein lies the problem for the left: the failures at the VA, including its bureaucratic incompetence, its waiting lists, and its deaths, all debunk the notion that a government-run healthcare system will work. It’s a fresh slap in the face to all those commentators who, in pushing Obamacare, endorsed the VA as a model.

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[In 2006 Paul Krugman] explained, “pundits and policy makers don’t talk about the veterans’ system because they can’t handle the cognitive dissonance. … For the lesson of the V.H.A.’s success story — that a government agency can deliver better care at lower cost than the private sector — runs completely counter to the pro-privatization, anti-government conventional wisdom that dominates today’s Washington.”…

In a 2007 article for the American Prospect, Ezra Klein also praised the system’s outcomes. “What makes this such an explosive story is that the VHA is a truly socialized medical system,” Klein wrote. “The unquestioned leader in American health care is a government agency that employs 198,000 federal workers from five different unions, and nonetheless maintains short wait times and high consumer satisfaction.”…

The description of the system offered by liberals stands in stark contrast to the horrifying reality depicted in recent reports on how the veterans’ health care system has neglected patients and covered up wait times – at a deadly cost…

Last September, I spent time in England researching the socialized British medical system, the National Health Service, for the Examiner’s magazine edition, and encountered similar stories – of patient neglect and an unaccountable bureaucracy focused on gaming the system so they could claim to be meeting targets.

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Today, we know the VA is anything but a model for health care reform, but this is not a new revelation. Obama truly did inherit a miserably defective VA system, but it was one he campaigned on changing. Now, more than five years into his presidency, that VA’s cascading failures have grown too grotesque to ignore.

We know that, not only were veterans receiving substandard care, but a system-wide initiative to hide the VA’s failures from those responsible for the administration’s oversight. That’s not merely negligence; it’s malfeasance and the cruelest form of corruption.

Given the gravity of the problem and the urgency of the need to provide medical care for veterans, even progressive lawmakers like Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) are conceding the need for an emergency infusion of what the administration once conceded was standard “private sector velocity.”

That’s good advice. Maybe those self-appointed policy wonks who have been ignoring the VA’s problems for years will have the courtesy of putting their ideological obsession with socialized medicine on the back burner for a few days in order to allow America’s veterans to get the care they need.

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The liberal left, the “progressive” left, the socialist left, the communist left, and whatever other left, will employ the VA scandal as a case study of what happens not when government takes over and destroys healthcare but of what happens when government healthcare is not adequately funded. The problem, leftists will insist, is not government centralization, management, and planning, but the failure of cruel and miserly Republicans to fully fund what needs to be funded.

If you haven’t noticed, liberals are taking to websites and radio and TV right now to make just that point. They will continue to do so in the decades ahead as government devours more and more of the private healthcare industry. Even if radical leftists somehow achieve their utopian dream of a total federal takeover of every hospital, they will always argue that the subsequent disastrous system—replete with inefficiencies, rationing, and unnecessary death—has nothing to do with the nature of government or government management; no, they will always insist that the failures result from inadequate funding. They do that now with public schools. They will do it on steroids with healthcare.

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In his speech on the VA, the president said that he would not stand for things that he clearly and undeniably has stood for some years now, and swore that he would not tolerate that which has has been tolerating since 2009.

He’s been described as acting like a bystander to his own presidency, but it’s more like he’s a victim of it, as though the presidency were this terrible thing that just happened to him one day that he’s now courageously dealing with…

It’s a remarkable talent he has. When he was getting beat up politically for his association with that goofy racist clergyman, he lectured us on the evils of racism, as though we’d been the ones sitting in on those hateful sermons. Every time he has some spectacular screw-up, which seems to be about once a quarter, he pronounces himself outraged, as though he had not failed us but had been failed himself.

So Barack Obama has sworn that he will not tolerate the incompetence of the Obama administration. I’d like to think that that means he is going to resign, but I don’t think that’s what he meant.

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Whatever the disagreements about the long wars of the past decades, Democrats and Republicans agree that we must fully honor the debt we have incurred to the tiny fraction of the population that does the fighting for the rest of us. Yes, the budget for the VA has risen sharply since 2002. But the number of returning veterans has risen even faster. Many live with grievous wounds from which they would have succumbed in previous conflicts. Many others struggle with the multiple effects of repeated deployments. Aging Vietnam-era patients require more care, and new responsibilities such as coping with Agent Orange add to the VA’s burden…

The Congressional Budget Office’s latest budget projections showed that between 2013 and 2024, discretionary spending—defense and nondefense—is scheduled to fall from 7.2% of GDP to 5.1%, the lowest share since at least 1962. With only five cents out of each dollar of national income, we are supposed to defend the country, care for veterans, address the needs of children and the poor—and invest in the research, education and infrastructure on which America’s future depends. It can’t be done…

Ten years from now, the funds available for the military and domestic programs will buy less than they do today. Meanwhile, costs in both categories are likely to rise faster than the rate of inflation. “Doing more with less” is a catchy slogan, but it only diverts attention from the real problem: the contradiction between our needs and the resources we commit to meet them.

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Via Greg Hengler.

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Dire, that’s a very interesting google technique.

Do you know a good tutorial on google search techniques? I’m sure I don’t use it very well.

I despise what google does in data harvesting of personal info, but I recognize its power.

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 2:45 AM

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 2:38 AM

you could have just said the name..
too much work and effort I say..
WOT… waste of time…
I guess I don’t understand the attraction..

going2mars on May 23, 2014 at 2:49 AM

You Are What You Is

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 2:54 AM

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 2:45 AM

That makes it “specific”..As for tutorial google to google and just type in any word and do a search..At the bottom of the page with be a help button..That should get you started..:)

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 2:57 AM

you fool nobody when you pretend that most republicans aren’t just as crazy extreme as the teahadis they pretend to fight.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 23, 2014 at 1:47 AM

Type that into your computer search engine and make your search specific to Hot Air and see what name pops up in the first ten hits..:)

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 1:52 AM

I caught that too Dire.

Brian J gave himself away-

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 2:59 AM

going2mars on May 23, 2014 at 2:49 AM

I’m just that way..I don’t want to give them any more attention than I have to..:)

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 2:59 AM

I occasionally wonder just how many socks are hanging around here. For example, if frank & Bluegill aren’t socks of the same troll, there is some other unholy relationship there.

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 2:33 AM

Not same person. I have and always have had only one name. Also, there is no relationship. So you are wrong all around. Sometimes I like sticking up for the person who is ganged up on by the regulars here.

Here’s what someone here should do:
- have a list of all banned HotAir people

all their past comments are searchable on google. You can compare their syntax (and other favorite sayings and formatting preferences, etc.) in past comments and compare it to current, possibly previously-banned trolls.

-then post examples of the old comments right by the new comments, if there’s a sure match.

Some of the trolls are savvy to this and disguise how they type, but it seems like most don’t. The mask always slips.

bluegill on May 23, 2014 at 3:02 AM

I caught that too Dire.

Brian J gave himself away-

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 2:59 AM

I just thought it was a pretty big coincidence..But I could be wrong..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 3:04 AM

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 3:04 AM

Maybe..but good catch.

Good evening..or middle of the night =)

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM

Faster P#ssycat – Don’t Change That Song

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM

That makes it “specific”..As for tutorial google to google and just type in any word and do a search..At the bottom of the page with be a help button..That should get you started..:)
Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 2:57 AM

This makes it easy:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search

Limit domain to HotAir.com

bluegill on May 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM

Not same person. I have and always have had only one name. Also, there is no relationship. So you are wrong all around. Sometimes I like sticking up for the person who is ganged up on by the regulars here.

bluegill on May 23, 2014 at 3:02 AM

frank’s a belligerent a$$hole. Why stick up for someone like him? Where has he been lately, anyway? =)

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:11 AM

Here’s what more of you should do. And you could really make a difference.

If you have free time, download and reupload politics and other news videos to YouTube. Whatever looks interesting or newsworthy. Like the stuff that’s posted here.

Then slant the title to be pro-conservative, anti-liberal. Kind of like how twitchy does their headlines. A video’s title really changes how someone sees something. “Racist Democrat so-and-so plays race card”

It seems left is doing this much more often than the right on there.

It’s incredibly easy to do and only takes a few minutes. All of you should consider starting YouTube channels and doing this for a couple videos a night.

bluegill on May 23, 2014 at 3:14 AM

You can even download YouTube videos on your iPhone and iPad now with easy to use free apps.

bluegill on May 23, 2014 at 3:15 AM

Oh and so I don’t get in trouble… My disclaimer… Obey all copyright rules and other rules of YouTube.

bluegill on May 23, 2014 at 3:16 AM

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 2:57 AM

Thanks much! I’ll try it.

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 3:18 AM

Good evening..or middle of the night =)

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM

It is 5 o’clock somewhere..:):)

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 3:19 AM

Off I go now! Laying in bed commenting from my phone when I should be sleeping.

Bye!

bluegill on May 23, 2014 at 3:19 AM

I just knew if I mentioned it, I would conjure it up…

I hate when that happens. Where’s my whiskey?

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 3:20 AM

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM

It is 5 o’clock somewhere..:):)

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 3:19 AM

Lol..it tis.

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:20 AM

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:11 AM

frank apparently got the hammer. He was asking for it for a long time.

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 3:21 AM

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:20 AM

TGIF

Thank Gawd Its Flan

SparkPlug on May 23, 2014 at 3:21 AM

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:11 AM

HA’s elder statesmen…lmao

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:22 AM

It is 5 o’clock somewhere..:):)

Dire Straits on May 23, 2014 at 3:19 AM

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:23 AM

SparkPlug on May 23, 2014 at 3:21 AM

LOLz~

Hi Sparky, baby!

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:23 AM

frank apparently got the hammer. He was asking for it for a long time.

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 3:21 AM

=)

HA’s elder statesmen…lmao

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:22 AM

I wonder if he really believed that lol

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:29 AM

They’re discussing menstrual leave on Redeye.

What could go wrong?

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 3:29 AM

HA’s elder statesmen…lmao

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:22 AM

I wonder if he really believed that lol

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:29 AM

Pretty sure he did. frank was a legend in his own mind.

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 3:30 AM

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:22 AM

I wonder if he really believed that lol

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:29 AM

It was so over the top ridiculous..all I could do is laugh.

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:30 AM

Pretty sure he did. frank was a legend in his own mind.

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 3:30 AM

I agree. It just was not easy for me to believe. I was like this for me.

It was so over the top ridiculous..all I could do is laugh.

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:30 AM

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:33 AM

Cross Vangelis and Procul Harum and you get this.

Aphrodite’s Child – It’s Five O’ Clock

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:37 AM

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:23 AM

How are you? have you been going in the water and being a surfer girl?

SparkPlug on May 23, 2014 at 3:39 AM

They’re discussing menstrual leave on Redeye.

What could go wrong?

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 3:29 AM

Red Eye? Its not the eye that gets red.

SparkPlug on May 23, 2014 at 3:40 AM

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:23 AM

How are you? have you been going in the water and being a surfer girl?

SparkPlug on May 23, 2014 at 3:39 AM

Not lately Sparks..
Had the flu and now I have a damn infected tooth.
Soon tho, soon. Water should be very nice in June.

What have you been up to? Golf and wood? :)

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 3:44 AM

I get the feeling Margret Hamilton just left the room everytime..

going2mars on May 23, 2014 at 3:44 AM

Newcleus – Jam On It

Murphy9 on May 23, 2014 at 1:04 AM

That was funny.

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:49 AM

If you’re suicidal, you probably should avoid this.

Miley Cyrus with the Flaming Lips – Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds

non-nonpartisan on May 23, 2014 at 3:56 AM

Calling it a night. Good evening to all.

novaculus on May 23, 2014 at 4:04 AM

Everyone follow weknowwhatsbest on Twitter.

Very funny tweeter.

Now I’m really off.

bluegill on May 23, 2014 at 4:10 AM

Marcus Luttrell former Navy SEAL behind the book “Lone Survivor,”- talked to FOX and Friends about his idea to fix the VA’s problems: Make U.S. senators go through the VA to get their medical care.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/05/140281-lone-survivor-hero-marcus-luttrell-gets-exactly-right-va-scandal/

bazil9 on May 23, 2014 at 4:49 AM

Obama is an awful leader…..
Own it dems and lsm….you wanted someone based on the color of his skin instead of the content of his character….and you’re going to repeat it with Hillary based on gender instead of character

Pathetic

Will america wake up from nightmare?

cmsinaz on May 23, 2014 at 6:04 AM

Julie pace on mj
Dem lawmakers not happy with Obama’s foreign policy

Surprise Julie…

cmsinaz on May 23, 2014 at 6:18 AM

I often think of the Salem witch hunts. The theory is maybe they ate something. They would have eaten what was produced locally. There was something in the soil or there was a mold of some kind in the crop. One day they all woke up and realized what they had done. Sort of like this mass mental illness now except it’s country-wide. Maybe something in all that merchandise the Chinese are sending us.

I know wild conspiracy theory but it’s fun to speculate on goofy things like that.

crankyoldlady on May 23, 2014 at 6:19 AM

Reading the rat bastard traitor’s “message” to veterans just makes me that much more angry. Shinseki never takes any responsibility for what is happening in his department. I do agree with this statement.

You and your families deserve to have full faith in your VA, and we intend to earn it every day.

The only way that veterans can have any faith in the VA going forward is a complete sweep of the administrators who have killed veterans through neglect, abuse, and the motivation of performance bonuses. It is too much to ask that Shinseki be frog-marched out of his office and treated like the criminal that he is. But we can all reach out to our Congresscritters and demand the bastard’s immediate firing.

When Obamacare’s website failed, it was “all hands on deck” for urgent and immediate changes. Our veterans who rely on the VA should expect no less. Instead they get an arrogant incompetent bastard telling them that he’s looking into the “allegations” of wrongdoing. How many months is that going to take when there are immediate issues? This weekend as we honor or war dead, reach out to your representatives and tell them you demand action now- not six months from now.

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2014 at 7:09 AM

eugene robinson defending rockefeller’s race card, natch

unstinkingbelievable…

cmsinaz on May 23, 2014 at 7:12 AM

This weekend as we honor or war dead, reach out to your representatives and tell them you demand action now- not six months from now.

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2014 at 7:09 AM

THIS

cmsinaz on May 23, 2014 at 7:13 AM

As my National Review colleague Jonah Goldberg points out, the usual excuses don’t apply here. The existence of the VA isn’t politically controversial. No one is trying to repeal it, or “sabotage” it. It hasn’t lacked for funds. Its budget has been increasing at a rapid clip. What we’re seeing is simply unaccountable bureaucracy in action.

And yet neither the House nor the Senate will take up reform of the VA. It isn’t controversial and that is the problem: it is a bi-partisan backed bureaucracy that also, as a side-light, provides some health care to some veterans, sometimes. Maybe.

I’ll call for it being abolished and for the amount of money devoted to the VA to then be divided up amongst the number of vets using it. By all means it can be means tested so that those worst afflicted as casualties of war who are unable to help themselves can at least get medical treatment and funds towards rehab that they can spend on their own for their own doctors. Let veterans know that it is legal for them to form up their own association via their own private organizations to organize around their wounded and disabled brothers-in-arms so that they may pool their resources for the utilization of these funds for them.

Get the damned government out of the health care business as all it knows how to do is increase taxes, increase bureaucracy and shaft those needing care. Veterans will know how to tackle this problem in an efficient and direct manner far better than any bureaucrat sitting behind a desk in DC EVER WILL for they are comrades-in-arms. Heck, those within the veteran population who are medics, doctors and surgeons can be the first line of help for those coming back wounded or disabled, mentally or physically, as these are cries for help by those still lost on the battlefield seeking to get out of it once and for all.

There is no excuse to make veterans suffer at the hands of faceless bureaucrats hiding behind regulations and the laws protecting them from being exposed. As this happened in various forms at multiple sites it is the VA, as an institution, that is corrupt and no President, no Congress has done anything to right the situation for decades.

I’ll call for it to be ended and to give money directly to the veterans so that they can work amongst themselves to care for the wounded, disabled and traumatized by war. Our government is incapable, incompetent and corrupt on this score: it is time for this bureaucracy to end and to ask our vets to help tend to those seeking to escape the battlefield and return to health. Direct payments to the veterans is all this will take, and I’ll bet they will do a better job caring for each other than their government has done by placing them on death lists to the benefit of the bureaucrats and cronies.

ajacksonian on May 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM

ajacksonian on May 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM

hear hear

cmsinaz on May 23, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

CNN found that Hillary Clinton is the most admired woman in America. Women admire her because she’s strong and successful. Men admire her because she allows her husband to cheat and get away with it.

- Jay Leno

My take: No Ways ‘Tahd: The Saga of Hillary Rodham Clinton, Part 3 – The Co-Presidency

kingsjester on May 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM

kingsjester on May 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM

morning KJ
another good one…it is indeed a saga and the lapdogs are drooling for her

*sigh*

cmsinaz on May 23, 2014 at 7:47 AM

My take: No Ways ‘Tahd: The Saga of Hillary Rodham Clinton, Part 3 – The Co-Presidency

kingsjester on May 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM

I’m convinced that the Clinton “marriage” like that of the Obamas is one of political expedience. You can’t get elected if you don’t have the family.

The Clintons, IMO, went into the White House fully expecting that Bill would do his eight years and then immediately turn the reins of power over to Killary “don’t call me Imelda” Clinton. The scandals and voter fatigue of the Clintons sorta de-railed that so they bought Killary a Senate seat to begin a relaunch. What we are seeing now is the talking campaign to try and recapture the idea that Killary is some sort of brilliant accomplished woman (who decided to stand by her serial rapist husband).

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2014 at 8:06 AM

ajacksonian on May 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM

Good, Jacksonian.

crankyoldlady on May 23, 2014 at 8:06 AM

The Clintons, IMO, went into the White House fully expecting that Bill would do his eight years and then immediately turn the reins of power over to Killary “don’t call me Imelda” Clinton. The scandals and voter fatigue of the Clintons sorta de-railed that so they bought Killary a Senate seat to begin a relaunch. What we are seeing now is the talking campaign to try and recapture the idea that Killary is some sort of brilliant accomplished woman (who decided to stand by her serial rapist husband).

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2014 at 8:06 AM

That’s a good explanation of what happened. I’m not so sure it’s just a marriage of convenience. At this point why would they need to stay married? I think it’s a disfunctional marriage but I think they love each other. I think Bill screwed things up for her with his infidelity becoming public and I think he owed her big time but he has paid for that many times over with his irrational defense of her.

crankyoldlady on May 23, 2014 at 8:15 AM

At the next Press Conference I wish a reporter would as the President the following question:

“Mr President, you stated that you were ‘madder than Hell’ when you found out on the news that the VA was manipulating the books to hide excessive wait for appointments that might have resulted in the death of scores of veterans. Were you madder about this scandal, or where you madder when you found out on the news that the Department of Justice was allowing guns to be “run” into Mexico that resulted in the death of a US Law Enforcement Agent and hundreds of Mexicans? Or were you madder when you found out on the news that the NSA was conducting domestic spying? Or were you madder when you found out on the news that the IRS was targeting conservative groups for extra scrutiny? Or were you madder when you found out on the news that the DoJ was listening in on AP reporters phone calls? Or were you madder when you found out on the news that the Obamacare website was a flop? We would like to put into perspective just how mad you are in relation to all of the other times you have been ‘madder than Hell.’”

GAlpha10 on May 23, 2014 at 8:30 AM

cmsinaz on May 23, 2014 at 7:47 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on May 23, 2014 at 9:03 AM

the sky is falling tonight.. enjoy cheers

http://www.space.com/25987-meteor-shower-meteor-storm-webcasts-tonight.html

going2mars on May 23, 2014 at 4:52 PM

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