Harry Reid: Let’s pass immigration reform now and wait for President Cruz to enforce it in 2017

posted at 4:01 pm on May 22, 2014 by Allahpundit

Dude, I think we should take this deal.

If that sounds familiar, it’s because Chuck Schumer floated the same idea back in February, minus the trollishly sarcastic reference to President Cruz. It’s a clever way of calling Boehner’s bluff when he complains that Republicans can’t pass anything until Obama proves that he can be trusted to faithfully execute new border-security laws. No problem, say Reid and Schumer; we’ll add a provision to the new law that says it doesn’t take effect until January 20, 2017. That solves your Obama problem in one fell swoop and leaves it to the next president. And if Republicans balk at that idea, Dems can point to it as proof that not only is the “we don’t trust Obama” excuse bogus but that the GOP evidently has little confidence that it’ll be back in the White House in 2017. Beyond all that, Reid and Schumer know a dirty little secret about Republicans: Even if 2016 produced a huge red wave, with Ted Cruz in the White House and the GOP in charge of both houses of Congress, they wouldn’t dare repeal an amnesty bill that passed this year. They might “tweak” it a bit to further beef up security measures or extend the path to citizenship marginally, but there’s no earthly way a party that’s desperate to appeal to Latinos is going to pull the rug out from under them later by rescinding its big outreach gesture on immigration. And that’s why, I think, Reid pointedly mentioned Cruz in his tweet. Even if you righties got your dream candidate, he’s saying, he’s going to let you down on amnesty too.

So why, if this is such a clever play, haven’t Reid and Schumer been more insistent in pushing it over the last three months? Because, I suspect, their own base is too dumb and too impatient to back them up on it. They don’t want to wait until 2017; these are the same people, remember, who’ve convinced themselves that Obama is the “deporter-in-chief” despite ample evidence to the contrary. The White House is sufficiently worried about losing them that O’s on the brink of using executive action to soften DHS’s deportation policy, a risky move that could shatter Boehner’s hopes of passing an immigration bill for good. If amnesty fans breathed into a paper bag and took a hard look at the political landscape, they’d see that everything’s in their favor. Demographic shifts in the electorate have left the GOP petrified of opposing reform indefinitely; in fact, I bet Reid and Schumer suspect that even if a bill passed now that delayed enforcement until 2017, Dems might be able to demagogue congressional Republicans later into agreeing to speed up implementation so that it begins sooner. If Democrats started pounding the table in, say, January 2016, screaming that legalization and “coming out of the shadows” simply can’t wait another year to begin, how many Republicans would swallow hard, imagining a huge Latino backlash in November of that year if the GOP puts up a fight, and agree to go along? For all the blather about conservatives tying Boehner’s hands, soft-headed lefties who aren’t as strategically sharp as Reid and Schumer are making their lives harder too.

In case there’s any doubt of the magnitude of Reid’s trollishness in his tweet, here he is last year commenting on the prospect of President Cruz.


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Bmore on May 23, 2014 at 1:21 AM

Liberals will always let you know who they fear, he’s tops on their list.

newportmike on May 23, 2014 at 1:45 AM

I am still waiting for a definition of “immigration reform.” Shouldn’t we define the spoils of the battle before the war begins?

For instance, why can’t “immigration reform” refer to enforcing the immigration laws of the United States? That would be a novel idea.

IndieDogg on May 23, 2014 at 2:04 AM

I am still waiting for a definition of “immigration reform.” Shouldn’t we define the spoils of the battle before the war begins?

For instance, why can’t “immigration reform” refer to enforcing the immigration laws of the United States? That would be a novel idea.

IndieDogg on May 23, 2014 at 2:04 AM

Or “immigration reform” could be the reduction in visas and work cards. That would really make liberal heads explode!

libbyscooter on May 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM

If you don’t care enough for the country to actually get off your rear end and vote or, God forbid, actually get out and fight for the things you evidently want than there isn’t much point in:
A) Trying to find candidates who do what you want them to do or going after your vote in any way.
B) You sticking around in the USA. There’s a big world out there, maybe you can find someplace you care about. Maybe after you see it you will discover that you are taking your citizenship for granted.

V7_Sport on May 23, 2014 at 1:02 AM

None of that has anything to do with what I said. I’ll vote for the lesser evil, as long as I can see a meaningful difference. I did not say I did not care about my country or I would not work to improve things, and I most definitely did not say there was any place better in the world.

Try reading what I said again, but this time don’t assume I am saying what I am not saying.

This is what I said. Read it again, and understand it:

I just don’t care about any of that angels on the head of a pin crap any more. If they won’t defend us from an invasion, they can rot in Hell.

fadetogray on May 23, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Are you seriously saying people who grasp for power in America but won’t defend us from an invasion should not rot in Hell? Seriously?

fadetogray on May 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM

For instance, why can’t “immigration reform” refer to enforcing the immigration laws of the United States? That would be a novel idea.

IndieDogg on May 23, 2014 at 2:04 AM

That’s exactly what comprehensive immigration reform is about. It is about strengthening and enforcing the immigration laws. It’s about fixing our broken immigration system.

To pass the new enforcement laws we’ll need to get pro-immigration activists on board by agreeing to bring the hard working undocumented Americans out of the shadows, but that is incidental to the importance of beefing up enforcement, just like you want.

Don’t worry about whether or not the new laws will actually get enforced. Of course they will! Just because we aren’t enforcing the existing laws doesn’t mean we won’t enforce the bright, shiny new ones!

So can we sign you up? After all, you don’t want to be a nativist bigot!

- Lying Sack Democrat/RINO/GOPe/CoC

fadetogray on May 23, 2014 at 8:37 AM

By instituting worker visa programs that adequately address our farm labor demands, we can keep American agriculture strong.

jake-the-goose on May 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM

So, you’re saying only little brown people can do these farm jobs? How xenophobic of you.

Bitter Clinger on May 22, 2014 at 4:56 PM

The same argument was used to explain why slavery was important to southern agriculture. The more things change…

dominigan on May 23, 2014 at 8:51 AM

I think this post is probably the most informed and prophetic that I have read in a while, and deserves repeating…

Ya wanna know why the GOP Ayatollah’s (the RINOS) want amnesty?

It’s because they need a new base farther to the left.

They’ve hit the rails with the base and losing conservative support. They can either (a) Start giving conservatives what they want – which is smaller government or (b) Appeal to some other base besides conservatives.

(A) is out of the question – because smaller government means less power in DC for the Ayatollahs. They don’t want any part of that.

(B) is the “home run” for them – because they can have their cake and eat it too. If they can make a fundamental shift to the left and pick up a new voting block – they’ll be all over it.

Yeah sure – Hispanics vote Democrat – but they aren’t necessarily LIBERAL. Hispanics don’t, by and large, support things like gay marriage and, of all the demographics in America right now – it’s Hispanics that want the drug laws enforced more forcefully.

So there is some “play” there – to pull Hispanics away from the Democratic party – but the GOP would have to move LEFT to do it.

YOU GUYS THINK that the GOP is done for – if amnesty is passed. Heheh … Nay! Nay! Sweet Toads!

The GOP will then take that NEW EMERGING MAJORITY and turn it into THEIR NEW BASE – by promising them lots of free shit.

This allows the GOP to move to the left and continue to support ever expanding government – increasingly consolidating all power in Washington, DC. It also gets the RINO’s away from having to “kow-tow” to Tea Party “Scumbags”.

THAT’S THE STRATEGY. They GOP doesn’t plan on losing votes – only DILUTING the power of conservatives!

Otherwise – why would they do this? Watch and see – amnesty will pass and the GOP with then start to tell the Tea Party to go “fu*k yourselves – we got new voters and we’re buying their votes with FREE SHIT!”

HondaV65 on May 22, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Thank you HondaV65 for providing some real red meat in a comment.

dominigan on May 23, 2014 at 9:00 AM

we’ll add a provision to the new law that says it doesn’t take effect until January 20, 2017.

And senate majority leader mcconnell will find a reason not to repeal it. His most likely excuse being that president clinton will veto the bill. As insane as reid is, he’s crazy like a fox and knows he has the republican leadership in line and only needs to give them cover to get what he wants.

peacenprosperity on May 23, 2014 at 10:11 AM

I am still waiting for a definition of “immigration reform.”

Shouldn’t we define the spoils of the battle before the war begins?

Don’t hold your breath. This country does not have an immigration problem. On any given day half the planet would get on a jet with just the clothes on their backs given the chance to become an American citizen. Scientists, doctors, engineers. The best and brightest on the planet. What this country has is an ILLEGAL ALIEN problem. Illegal aliens are flowing across the border and becoming a burden on our education system, healthcare system, legal system immediately. They are a problem because the left has allowed them to become a problem by granting them special status and full access to our social services. Aside from securing the border and aiding in the deportation of illegals, the only other thing they should do is cut off federal funds to any state that wants to extend social services to illegals. To start, each state should impose strict regulations guarding against the employment and housing of illegals with the threat of losing occupation licenses, liquor licenses, certificates of occupancy, etc. for hiring of illegals. Hire illegal dishwashers, lose your liquor license. Hire illegal laborers for your landscape business, lose your occupation license and the ability to attain insurance for your business. Rent to illegals, lose your certificate of occupancy and have your property boarded up. Children of illegals should not be allowed to attend schools, public or private. Show up at a hospital for emergency healthcare? You get treated, cuffed and deported. If these actions were followed there would be a steady stream of illegals heading south across the border and the need for deportation would be rare. If you can’t find a job, a place to live and can’t get welfare, why would you come to the US?

Illegal immigration, as with all the problems in this country, is easily solved but if problems were solved, what would be the need for the self anointed political elite who live insular lives protected from the consequences of our illogical and harmful policies? What is especially ironic is that all the dimwit kneejerk liberals, utopians and leftist nut bags who are imposing the insanity on us would get exactly what they want, a peaceful, prosperous world. If they would just allow the free market and what’s left of the American spirit to fix our problems the rest of the world would follow.

peacenprosperity on May 23, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Even if you righties got your dream candidate, he’s saying, he’s going to let you down on amnesty too.

That right there is the argument for third party or bust.

David Blue on May 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM

I will so richly enjoy it next January, when this deranged, (alleged) pederast hands over the Senate gavel.

At which point, the country may begin to slightly, ever so slightly recover from the nightmarishly inept “guidance” it has received from the 4 rodeo clowns of the apocalypse-

Ohblahblah, Bidunce, the Plastic hag, and the Dusty Molester from Nevada.

GrassMudHorsey on May 23, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Even if you righties got your dream candidate, he’s saying, he’s going to let you down on amnesty too.

That right there is the argument for third party or bust.

David Blue on May 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM

And after pissing away years setting up a third party, when the dream candidate in your third party wins and lets you down, what then? Start all over again with a fourth party?

slickwillie2001 on May 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM

HondaV65 on May 22, 2014 at 4:22 PM

That is a great post – not with you all the way – but you thought that out.

jake-the-goose on May 22, 2014 at 4:24 PM

That would be a first from Obama Voter HondaV65.

Yes, that tool voted for Obama thinking that he/she/it was engaging in some high level strategy that another term of Obama would kill the GOP and in the ashes a brand spanking new whatever would rise. Or something like that.

Thought I’d let you (and anyone else reading) that Obama Voter here is, well, an Obama voter. ‘Nuff said.

kim roy on May 23, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Are you seriously saying people who grasp for power in America but won’t defend us from an invasion should not rot in Hell? Seriously?

fadetogray on May 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM

No, There was more to the quote though, however, if you are not on board with the whole “let it burn” movement and the “vote for Obama to let him wreck the USA” I apologize for reading the worst into your comment. I’m disgusted as well, but giving up, rather than getting organized, getting smart and pushing back isn’t what we should be doing, as conservatives or Americans.

V7_Sport on May 23, 2014 at 5:44 PM

HondaV65 on May 22, 2014 at 4:22 PM

That is a great post – not with you all the way – but you thought that out.

jake-the-goose on May 22, 2014 at 4:24 PM

That would be a first from Obama Voter HondaV65.

Yes, that tool voted for Obama thinking that he/she/it was engaging in some high level strategy that another term of Obama would kill the GOP and in the ashes a brand spanking new whatever would rise. Or something like that.

Thought I’d let you (and anyone else reading) that Obama Voter here is, well, an Obama voter. ‘Nuff said.

kim roy on May 23, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Thanks for that Kim Roy.

V7_Sport on May 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM

I’m disgusted as well, but giving up, rather than getting organized, getting smart and pushing back isn’t what we should be doing, as conservatives or Americans.

V7_Sport on May 23, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Giving up on the GOP is not the same thing as giving up.

The Tea Party strategy of taking control of the GOP is failing. We need disaffected Democrats. We aren’t going to be able to fight the elites without them.

You are right that a new party on the right won’t work. We need a populist party that appeals to the center.

To do that we need to give up on the idea of defending the property rights of the globalist super rich.

The world has changed. We need to recognize that guys like Soros and Gates and the Kennedys really are not Americans in the proper sense. Their loyalty is not to our country, not at all. Their loyalty is to a New World Order.

Screwing the American worker is key to their globalist vision.

It is getting late, way past time for us to recognize that reality.

fadetogray on May 23, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Thanks for that Kim Roy.

V7_Sport on May 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM

You are most welcome. While I can certainly understand the dissatisfaction with the GOP, to actually go and vote Obama? There is no rational excuse or reason for it. Stay home. Vote third party. Spoil your ballot. But to actually VOTE for that clown????

Check out ObamaVoter’s posts on the frothing idiocy of the whys if you are bored and needing some serious delusion.

kim roy on May 23, 2014 at 7:04 PM

fadetogray on May 23, 2014 at 6:49 PM
You aren’t licked until you quit. Glad at least that you aren’t giving up on the country.

V7_Sport on May 23, 2014 at 9:32 PM

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