CBS poll: Voters blame Shinseki, Obama for VA scandal

posted at 12:01 pm on May 22, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Who deserves the blame for the wait-list fraud and lack of medical care for veterans at the VA? According to a new CBS poll, a third of Americans blame the man who has been in charge of the VA for more than five years. And another 17% blame his boss:

Americans are split in their thoughts over who they think is most to blame for the problems at Veterans Affairs department medical facilities, which involve allegations that VA hospitals kept delays in treatment off the books and that patients may have died waiting for care.

But Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki and the VA (33 percent) receive more blame than either local VA hospitals (28 percent) or President Obama (17 percent). About a quarter doesn’t have an opinion.

Partisan differences emerge: While 31 percent of Republicans blame Shinseki and the VA for the problems, nearly as many blame Mr. Obama (30 percent). Fewer Democrats and independents say the president is at fault; they are more likely to blame Shinseki and the VA and local VA hospitals.

The poll does suffer in one respect in the way that the question was framed. Those were the only choices offered to respondents. Had they offered an option to blame Congress, it would be interesting to see how many would have opted for that choice, and that number may be represented in the relatively high number (23%) who didn’t make a choice at all.

The next question on the poll also hints at that impulse. Respondents ended up in a virtual split (42/41) over whether long waits are caused by inadequate resources or poor management of resources. Interestingly, each of the three political demographics have 42% blaming inadequate resources. A plurality of Republicans (47%) blame poor management, while Democrats (39%) and independents (40%) are less focused on that explanation. Perhaps the media should be exploring the massive increases in resources given to Shinseki by Congress over the last five years, as the OMB data clearly shows.

Obama’s defenders have begun mumbling about “Green Lanternism” again in response to his executive management failures. Ron Fournier blasts that argument into orbit:

The inconvenient truth is that Klein’s kind of thinking lets the president off the hook, unaccountable for promises broken and opportunities lost. Rather than change Washington’s culture of polarization, zero-sum game politics, and spin, Obama surrendered to it almost immediately. On health insurance reform, government debt, and loosening immigration laws, Obama shares blame with obstinate House Republicans for fumbling potential compromise. On climate change and gun control, Obama knew (or should have known) his rhetoric was setting up voters for disappointment. Rather than roll back Bush-era terrorism programs that curb civil liberties, Obama deepened them.

The launch of the Affordable Care Act and the worsening of conditions at the Veterans Affairs Department are emblematic of Obama’s inattention to the hard work of governing. He is slow to fire poor-serving Cabinet members and quick to dismiss controversies as “phony scandals.” To the Obama administration, transparency is a mere talking point. The great irony of his progressive presidency: Democrats privately admit that Obama has done as much to undermine the public’s faith in government as his GOP predecessor. The Green Lantern Theory is an excuse for failure.

Let’s recap on this. Candidate Obama campaigned on this issue, and president-elect Obama and Shinseki were briefed on it during the transition, and VA officials had been warned as early as 2010 that wait-list fraud was still occurring. Congress has increased Shinseki’s budget by 78% since the 2009 inauguration as demanded by Obama. Yet the White House claims to be shocked, shocked that this problem exists — and that the man to deal with it is the same man who let it fester for five-plus years while Congress poured money into his organization.

You don’t have to be Green Lantern to address that issue. You just need to be a competent executive. Right now, we don’t have that at the VA, nor at the White House either — and voters are starting to notice.


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How soon they forget. This is clearly Bush’s fault.

greggriffith on May 22, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Booooosh!

vnvet on May 22, 2014 at 12:03 PM

You don’t have to be Green Lantern to address that issue.

Thats right. We have Captain Kick-Ass instead.

BobMbx on May 22, 2014 at 12:03 PM

i would like to know racial breakdown of this poll.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Alternate Headline: Voters doubly more racist than previously thought.

ShainS on May 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Racist voters!

DamnCat on May 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM

I think that we should get rid of the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and NSA. Quite obviously, we are wasting billions of dollars since Dear Leader doesn’t learn about anything until he reads it in the newspapers or sees it on television like the rest of us.

If you think about it, his excuses are more than outrageous. They are downright pitiful. Obama’s is the Being There Presidency and history will look upon it as such…and, just because he is black doesn’t make just ‘being there’ any better.

Resist We Much on May 22, 2014 at 12:07 PM

i would like to know racial breakdown of this poll.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM

I would assume they were all Americans.

Tater Salad on May 22, 2014 at 12:07 PM

i would like to know racial breakdown of this poll.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM

39% – Cool people
33% – Racists
28% – Journalists/illegal aliens

BobMbx on May 22, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Those of you whe feel your views ate rooted in sound logic, should ask yourselves why you’re so defensive.

rogerb on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I don’t know why Obama doesn’t just fire Shinseki so the media can say how tough and assertive he is – and then ignore the story.

forest on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Had they offered an option to blame Congress, it would be interesting to see how many would have opted for that choice, and that number may be represented in the relatively high number (23%) who didn’t make a choice at all.

But Senator Obama didn’t know it was taking place… why should today’s Congress be at fault?

blammm on May 22, 2014 at 12:09 PM

i would like to know racial breakdown of this poll.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM

…sure you would!

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2014 at 12:09 PM

I don’t know why Obama doesn’t just fire Shinseki so the media can say how tough and assertive he is – and then ignore the story.

forest on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Uh….he’s a minority and that would be unfair. And an old, fat white guy has already resigned.

BobMbx on May 22, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Only 17% blame the guy who made political hay of the subject before his anointing election? We’re doomed.

307wolverine on May 22, 2014 at 12:10 PM

i would like to know racial breakdown of this poll.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Wow…..have I been getting ‘Bishoped’ here or what….

Damn it to hell…..

BigWyo on May 22, 2014 at 12:11 PM

No surprises. Incompetence has been a hallmark of this administration. Starting with that POS currently in the White House.

GarandFan on May 22, 2014 at 12:13 PM

They should have added:
D) “What’s the VA?”

That would have racked up the votes.

Free Indeed on May 22, 2014 at 12:13 PM

are emblematic of Obama’s inattention to the hard work of governing.

Isn’t this racist? Inattention to hard work = lazy = Dog-whistle?

MistyLane on May 22, 2014 at 12:14 PM

And an old, fat white guy has already resigned RETIRED.

BobMbx on May 22, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Fixed.

MistyLane on May 22, 2014 at 12:16 PM

i’m sure the republican sequister had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Clearly we need to change the position of President from a salaried to hourly paid job.

That would reduce what we pay Obama to probably less than 10 grand.

ConstantineXI on May 22, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Nailed it Ed – “incompetence” bordering on criminal.

Chuck Ef on May 22, 2014 at 12:19 PM

I don’t know why Obama doesn’t just fire Shinseki so the media can say how tough and assertive he is – and then ignore the story.

forest on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I know! I thought for sure his press conference was to do just that.

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 12:20 PM

i’m sure the republican sequister had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM

How soon they forget: it was entirely caused by that Ted Cruz-caused 17% (0% affecting the VA) gubmint shutdown …

ShainS on May 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM

i’m sure the republican sequister had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM

That would be Obama’s SEQUESTER…

“Already, some in Congress are trying to undo these automatic spending cuts. My message to them is simple: No. I WILL VETO ANY EFFORT TO GET RID OF THOSE AUTOMATIC SPENDING CUTS TO DOMESTIC AND DEFENSE SPENDING. There will be no easy off ramps on this one.”

- President Barack Obama, 21 November 2011

“In the short term, the good news is that there’s going to be a forcing mechanism to deal with what is the central ideological argument in Washington right now, and that is: How much government do we have and how do we pay for it? So when you combine the Bush tax cuts expiring, THE SEQUESTER IN PLACE, the commitment of both myself and my opponent — at least Governor Romney claims that he wants to reduce the deficit — but we’re going to be in a position where I believe in the first six months we are going to solve that big piece of business.”

- President Barack Obama, Des Moines Register, 23 October 2012

And, no. Funding has nothing to do with it.

Resist We Much on May 22, 2014 at 12:22 PM

i’m sure the republican sequister had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM

The VA’s budget was more than DOUBLED actually.

Money is no excuse here. But with Obama it’s always this:

(Best clubbing of a Baby President in 140 characters or less):

VA scandal: DIDN’T KNOW
Benghazi security: DIDN’T KNOW
Fast and Furious: DIDN’T KNOW
Lose your doctor: DIDN’T KNOW
Bin Laden hit: MASTERMIND—
Razor (@hale_razor) May 19, 2014

What the hell are we paying this moron 300+ grand a year, PLUS over a BILLION DOLLARS in benefits including unlimited Vacays for?

ConstantineXI on May 22, 2014 at 12:22 PM

i’m sure the republican sequister had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM

You DO wear knee pads before spring into action, right? I’d hate to see you become an invalid in your fervor to service your master.

307wolverine on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I blame Bush.

If I blame Obama or Shinseki then I am a racist xenophobe bigot yada yada yada.

Mark Boabaca on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

CBS poll: Voters blame Shinseki, Obama for VA scandal

All racists.

M240H on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Clearly we need to change the position of President from a salaried to hourly paid job.

That would reduce what we pay Obama to probably less than 10 grand.

ConstantineXI on May 22, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Heh.

Or piecemeal, a fixed amount for every hole golfed.

Oh wait, that really would put us into default …

ShainS on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I don’t know why Obama doesn’t just fire Shinseki

forest on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

obama is a good leader and loyal to his people. obama leaves no man behind. especially since this wasn’t even shinsenski’s fault.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

So does this poll mean that CBS will investigate aggressively or does it mean the media and the White House need to get together and get their stories straight faster?

Cindy Munford on May 22, 2014 at 12:24 PM

i’m sure the republican sequister had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM

U r tryin 2 hard too missssspel wordz to covr up yer real usr name.

Dont tri so hrd.

Mark Boabaca on May 22, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Remember when the left was crowing that Shinseki was the model of competence and that dastardly Bush had sidelined his career?

I expect that end state of the VA scandal will be Shinseki resigning – so might not be a bad idea to get together some video and such of them making these arguments…

18-1 on May 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Hmmm, good to his people or bad with veterans (people that could also be considered his people) let me weigh that theory.

Cindy Munford on May 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM

So does this poll mean that CBS will investigate aggressively or does it mean the media and the White House need to get together and get their stories straight faster?

Cindy Munford on May 22, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Who runs CBS News again?

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Racists

Bush promoted Shitseki, for utter failure. Shitseki started the current PC disaster the entire military has become, by eliminating the hard won black berets.

The rest is history. You know what he’d do in Japan.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM

i’m sure the republican sequister had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Reading is fundamental.

Congress has increased Shinseki’s budget by 78% since the 2009 inauguration as demanded by Obama.

Flora Duh on May 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Those of you whe feel your views ate rooted in sound logic, should ask yourselves why you’re so defensive.

rogerb on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Uh, what is urban defeatist for $100, roger?

Mark Boabaca on May 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM

obama is a good leader and loyal to his people. obama leaves no man behind. especially since this wasn’t even shinsenski’s fault.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Ty Woods, and Glen Doherty were unavailable for comment.

Resist We Much on May 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM

obama overlooks VA Death Panels, same as the ones in obama’care’.

Jamooooo, the fat cow of Faux “only Hillary can save the land from obama now”. Yeahhh, she, the black one, must be a racist.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 12:28 PM

I expect that end state of the VA scandal will be Shinseki resigning – so might not be a bad idea to get together some video and such of them making these arguments…

18-1 on May 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM

I think the resignation will be the Friday news dump going into the Memorial Day weekend.

ConstantineXI on May 22, 2014 at 12:28 PM

obama leaves no live man behind…but how come some of you sharks fall for ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch, the doppelgaenger of dale1, for pure entertainment at HA?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 12:29 PM

GM is dead and AlQauida is alive, all thanks to obama and Joe Biden/Hillary/Kerry. Send them thank you notes.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Or piecemeal, a fixed amount for every hole golfed.

Oh wait, that really would put us into default …

ShainS on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

We need to clip the President’s endless Vacay wings too. My idea:

I get 3 weeks paid vacation a year. But not all at once. Where I work, you accrue vacation time OVER the year. Meaning, if I’m not working I’m not earning vacation days. It should be the same for the President and every Federal worker.

ConstantineXI on May 22, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Ty Woods, and Glen Doherty were unavailable for comment.

Resist We Much on May 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM

100,000 dead soldiers in Iraq werent either.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:32 PM

The Democrats should be PROUD of what’s going on at the VA. This is what everyone except the super rich are going to be experiencing soon.

ConstantineXI on May 22, 2014 at 12:32 PM

100,000 dead soldiers in Iraq werent either.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:32 PM

More soldiers have died in Afghanistan in the 5.5 years Obama has been “President” than during all 8 years of Bush. Mainly because the new sensitive Obama rules of engagement put them at greater risk with less ability to defend themselves.

ConstantineXI on May 22, 2014 at 12:34 PM

You mean that finally after 5 years these idiot voters aren’t going to say its Bush’s fault? Funny but when just a few reporters actually do their jobs Obama finally gets held accountable. Wouldn’t it have been nice if they had done their jobs on Benghazi, on Fast n Furious, on the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups?

neyney on May 22, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Boy ,the quality of trolls has sure gone down…

sandee on May 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Those of you whe feel your views ate rooted in sound logic, should ask yourselves why you’re so defensive.

rogerb on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Was hoping you had archived that one.

ToddPA on May 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM

100,000 dead soldiers in Iraq werent either.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:32 PM

That’s weird since there were ‘only’ 3,527 combat-related deaths in the war for which Hillary Clinton and many other Democrats voted…

Hypocrisy Alert! Clinton, Kerry, Gore & Other Democrats Talk About Saddam’s WMD BEFORE AND AFTER Bush Is President and Call for War Against Iraq

Resist We Much on May 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM

We need Libfree here to give a big

“Girl bye”

ToddPA on May 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM

obama is a good leader and loyal to his people. obama leaves no man behind. especially since this wasn’t even shinsenski’s fault.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I think Trey Gowdy is about to cause you disappointment.

butch on May 22, 2014 at 12:39 PM

You mean that finally after 5 years these idiot voters aren’t going to say its Bush’s fault? Funny but when just a few reporters actually do their jobs Obama finally gets held accountable. Wouldn’t it have been nice if they had done their jobs on Benghazi, on Fast n Furious, on the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups?

neyney on May 22, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Idiot voters are our problem.

Frankly, I think we need a period of time after the educational system is “de-lefted” before people under 50 should be allowed to vote again.

ConstantineXI on May 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Here kitty, kitty. You have your African-American President and Asian-American cabinet official. Tell us how racist America is, Urban Elitist.

mwbri on May 22, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Here kitty, kitty. You have your African-American President and Asian-American cabinet official. Tell us how racist America is, Urban Elitist.

mwbri on May 22, 2014 at 12:41 PM

america is not racist. white america is racist.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Is Ron Fournier building up to having an actual journalistic episode? Sort of like a Transient Ischemic Attack or something? He should definitely take some baby Aspirin every day…

Alternatively, where’s the real Ron Fournier, and what have you done with him?

bofh on May 22, 2014 at 12:43 PM

The House yesterday approved, with huge D majority, a bill to fire anyone from the VA…the senate ignores and obama didn’t say he’d sign.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 12:44 PM

This no brain troll has the exact same grammar and spelling skills as nonp. No capitalization, idiotic statements, wrong on facts, could it be that this one also went to the harvard school of animal husbandry?

BeachBum on May 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM

america is not racist. white america is racist.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:43 PM


Al Sharpton Defends Racist Rants: It Was Only One Jew…

Resist We Much on May 22, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Here kitty, kitty. You have your African-American President and Asian-American cabinet official. Tell us how racist America is, Urban Elitist.

mwbri on May 22, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Those of you whe feel your views ate rooted in sound logic, should ask yourselves why you’re so defensive.

urban elitist on May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 12:47 PM

A commander and leader is responsible for everything his unit does or fails to do . . . a fact and a value that Shinseki has long since forgotten. If he had any honor or character he would have already resigned.

rplat on May 22, 2014 at 12:48 PM

One way, or another, HA generates hits. Must love Capitalism!

The irony might escape some.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Who runs CBS News again?

KCB on May 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM

It was a rhetorical question.

Cindy Munford on May 22, 2014 at 12:49 PM

I’m surprised they didn’t list W as an option to blame

cmsinaz on May 22, 2014 at 12:49 PM

If only 17% hold the President responsible then 83% have no idea what a president/executive is supposed to do.

hopeful on May 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM

But it’s Bush’s fault!
/s

OxyCon on May 22, 2014 at 12:51 PM

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Thanks for proving my point. By the way, your white senator bud from West Virginia doesn’t mind having racist West Virginians vote him in for several terms. He is a political whore in every sense of the word.

mwbri on May 22, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Was hoping you had archived that one.
 
ToddPA on May 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM

 
I think triple has had the best ones lately.

rogerb on May 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM

What about these guys????

http://veterans.house.gov/about/history-jurisdiction

Any Republicans in charge here???? Sad to say, YES!!

The Committee on Veterans’ Affairs is the authorizing Committee for the Department of Veterans Affairs. The Committee recommends legislation expanding, curtailing, or fine-tuning existing laws relating to veterans’ benefits. The Committee also has oversight responsibility, which means monitoring and evaluating the operations of the VA. If the Committee finds the that VA is not administering laws as Congress intended, then it is “corrected” through the hearing process and legislation. We are the voice of Congress for veterans in dealings with the VA.

fred5678 on May 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Frankly, I’m going off the the “Hate Obama” reservation here. It really isn’t his fault- beyond him not being able to focus on a promise and keep it. He doesn’t care. He’s a sociopath. He isn’t trying to kill vets, he just doesn’t care about them. There is a difference between the two.

If you will note, Obama cares about what affects him personally or politically. THAT is when he gets pissed because it screws with his mojo. Beyond that, he just doesn’t care. One of the key indicators of sociopathic personalities. Now not all of them are criminals, many can be very successful if their focus is in the right direction.

And remember what he said, “It is not as important to win the argument as it is to win the moment.” That is key. Here he’ll act outraged, (just like F&F and the IRS), demand something be done so the MSM can report that, and move on. Same as he did with the 8 million claim for Obamacare- which was debunked almost immediately thereafter and has continued to crumble since then -BUUUUTT he won the moment and it is being used over and over to criticize the critics of the Act.

The VA has been an issue for years and through many Presidents. We spend a lot more money putting our people into harms way than to treat them when their luck runs out. It is that simple.

Obama wants the military to go away for two reason- 1. It teaches young people how to be part of a team, sacrifice, and what it takes to be a good citizen. And it exposes them to what a bad government looks like. Also, it makes them conservative for all the above reasons. 2. He’d rather spend that money on domestic “wealth transfer” and voter guaranteeing programs.

Nothing personal. Just sociopathic business.

archer52 on May 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM

america is not racist. white america is racist.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:43 PM

You can stop anytime now. I’ve gotten enough evidence to know that you’re an idiot. You don’t need to make your point any longer. I got it.

307wolverine on May 22, 2014 at 1:06 PM

This just shows you what happens when Federal funding is increased. The Democrats will create a “victim” to get what they want. Once it passes, the only people who benefit are government workers. Every year in Philly, the same politicians trot out the school kid meme. Once they pass it, the teachers get their raises. No improvement in learning and supplies never get filled.
It’s time to wake up to the fact that only the government fat-cats are getting richer at the expense of the poor. How much help would that additional money provide to the most needy? The same with green energy. Time to stop with the ‘illusions of grandeur” and start dealing with reality – that priorities need to be established when revenues and/or the economy are weak.

djaymick on May 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Obama wants the military to go away for two reason- 1. It teaches young people how to be part of a team, sacrifice, and what it takes to be a good citizen. And it exposes them to what a bad government looks like. Also, it makes them conservative for all the above reasons. 2. He’d rather spend that money on domestic “wealth transfer” and voter guaranteeing programs.

Spending 21 years in the Navy taught me to be a libertarian.

307wolverine on May 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM

i’m sure the republican sequister had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this..

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Well little troll, since the VA funding ultimately was not reduced, and the delays were far longer than the sequester lasted (btw, you misspelled ‘sequister’)… you are quite right! The Republican sequester DIDN’T have anything to do with this. Thank you little troll for pointing that out! Now you can go back to your nappy time!

dominigan on May 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Frankly, I’m going off the the “Hate Obama” reservation here. It really isn’t his fault- beyond him not being able to focus on a promise and keep it. He doesn’t care. He’s a sociopath. He isn’t trying to kill vets, he just doesn’t care about them. There is a difference between the two.
Archer52

A distinction without a difference for the dead vets and their families.

hopeful on May 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM

obama is a good leader and loyal to his people. obama leaves no man behind. especially since this wasn’t even shinsenski’s fault.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Amb. Stevens says “Hi.”

307wolverine on May 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM

I don’t know why Obama doesn’t just fire Shinseki so the media can say how tough and assertive he is – and then ignore the story.

forest on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Because you can’t just fire a former four star general who became a darling of the left by saying mean things about GWB and Rumsfeld. Keep in mind, it wasn’t true but GWB took a lot of heat for firing Shinseki from his job as Army Chief of Staff.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2014 at 1:13 PM

america is not racist. white america is racist.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Through overuse and corruption the word “racist” no longer has meaning

kenny on May 22, 2014 at 1:14 PM

You don’t have to be Green Lantern to address that issue. You just need to be a competent executive. Right now, we don’t have that at the VA, nor at the White House either — and voters are starting to notice.

Well, that’s good to know.

Quick–while the window of opportunity is open to take advantage of these voters’ momentary lucidity–someone tell them that President Kennedy’s been shot!

ಠ_ಠ

Folks, I’m telling you: The zombie apocalypse is upon us. Look around. It’s these perpetually, willingly, even joyously stupid who, unfortunately, have just enough reptilian basal ganglia to cast a ballot.

Of course, it could be always be worse. They have yet to figure out that they like the taste of human flesh, you know. I guess that merits at least a half-hearted “HUZZAH!” for the time being.

Dime IV on May 22, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Boy ,the quality of trolls has sure gone down…

sandee on May 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Yet I note plenty are ready to feed them, nonetheless. Why?

They’re either trying to get normies’ goats, or they’re too stupid to participate in genuine debate. Either way, it’s pointless to engage them.

(and I don’t mean to imply you, sandee, are engaging them)

MistyLane on May 22, 2014 at 1:19 PM

america is not racist. white america is racist.
ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:43 PM

You’re getting “racist” and “superior” mixed up.

tommyboy on May 22, 2014 at 1:19 PM

america is not racist. white america is racist.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Through overuse and corruption the word “racist” no longer has meaning

kenny on May 22, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Modern day definition of “racist”: “I don’t like what you’re saying and I’m too danm obtuse to think of a cogent argument by which to debate you”.

MistyLane on May 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Modern day definition of “racist”: “I don’t like what you’re saying and I’m too danm obtuse to think of a cogent argument by which to debate you”.

MistyLane on May 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Then your reaction would appear little more than emotion.

kenny on May 22, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Read the montage of O’s own words on his alleged concern with vet care. Why wasn’t he meeting with Shinsucki monthly?

Gee, what Would Romney do? OH, what did you say? Binders and pet carriers? You’re right. Never mind. I was just thinking that he has a long, deep and successful track record of running stuff including the Olympics.

LetsBfrank on May 22, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Nothing personal. Just sociopathic business.

archer52 on May 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Very good, Archer.

crankyoldlady on May 22, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Resist We Much on May 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM

To quote the great Hank Aaron:
When they hang ‘em, you bang ‘em.

VelvetElvis on May 22, 2014 at 1:37 PM

That’s weird since there were ‘only’ 3,527 combat-related deaths in the war for which Hillary Clinton and many other Democrats voted…
Resist We Much on May 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Math is Hard!!
- NoBrainonKoch

VelvetElvis on May 22, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Every individual who participated in this travesty of secret appointment listing and deliberate delay (regardless of whether or not they were “following orders”) should be forced to meet with their victims and/or victims’ survivors, and look them in the eye and take whatever they have to hand out.

disa on May 22, 2014 at 1:51 PM

It’s time to stop the blame game….fix the VA already! Promises were made years ago, it’s time to save the Vets who proudly served and sacrificed this Great Nation.

woodhull on May 22, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Those of you whe feel your views ate rooted in sound logic, should ask yourselves why you’re so defensive.

rogerb on May 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Hilarious!

rogerb = Paul Bunyan

leftists = trees

tanked59 on May 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM

A child is chief.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2014 at 1:59 PM

obama is a good leader and loyal to his people. obama leaves no man behind.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on May 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Perhaps you should ask the brave men who DIED in Benghazi how loyal this pissant prezzy is. Oh, forgot, what difference does it make?

After all, they were white.

(did I say that out loud?)

charpaddy on May 22, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Just like his red-nosed preoccupant and miscreant, Clinton, this childish WH dribbler will be getting the country another 9/11.

kenny on May 22, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Whaaat!?!

But Bush!

Kensington on May 22, 2014 at 2:15 PM

It is my duty to point out that a lot of these accusations against obama and shinseki (that REALLY, REALLY hurts my soul) are misdirected. The fact that everybody knows is that most government agencies are staffed with democrats/liberals. That is where the major problems start and occur just the IRS and all the other gov. agencies. So place the blame where it actually belongs, with the lib employees!!

boogieboy on May 22, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Modern day definition of “racist”: “I don’t like what you’re saying and I’m too danm obtuse to think of a cogent argument by which to debate you”.

MistyLane on May 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM

I remember when “prejudiced” was the 4-alarm word to be used during discussions of race.

Anyone else remember being called prejudiced?

BobMbx on May 22, 2014 at 2:59 PM

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