Last night’s lesson: Romney Republicanism is alive and well

posted at 7:21 pm on May 21, 2014 by Allahpundit

That’s according to, er, Team Romney. I’ll grant them that it’s alive, but if we’re defining “well” as losing to an incumbent by more than 100 electoral votes when unemployment is close to eight percent, we’re in deeper trouble than I thought.

Was last night a testament to Romney’s enduring influence within the GOP or was it a testament to the enduring influence of the business lobby and the GOP’s donor class, which is overwhelmingly pro-business and thus was overwhelmingly pro-Romney in 2012?

The elections featured a trio of Romney-endorsed Republicans beating back challenges from the tea party by filling their coffers with establishment cash, and appealing to electoral pragmatism. In Idaho, Rep. Mike Simpson defeated his primary opponent with $4 million raised by allies like the United States Chamber of Commerce. In Pennsylvania, incumbent Rep. Bill Shuster triumphed over a challenge from the right. And in Oregon, Monica Wehby, a pro-abortion rights neurosurgeon who many Republicans have touted as a rising star, emerged victorious despite a last-minute character assault led by Democrats…

“I think Republicans are sick of losing,” said Robert O’Brien, a Romney family friend who served as a foreign policy adviser to the campaign. “I think the Romney brand has had a real resurgence after the campaign, and a lot of Republicans realized, hey this guy was right about a lot of things, and they realize his endorsement carries significant weight.”

Similarly, Ryan Williams, a former Romney campaign spokesman, boasted, “Tonight was a good night for Gov. Romney and his endorsed candidates.”

He went on to add, “For too long our party has been without a powerful voice who has been able to help the most electable conservative candidates build support and raise the resources needed to navigate competitive primary contests. Governor Romney has filled that void.”

Six weeks ago, BuzzFeed’s Ben Smith pronounced Jeb Bush dead on arrival in the 2016 primaries, his candidacy “a fantasy nourished by the people who used to run the Republican Party.” Six weeks later, BuzzFeed’s McKay Coppins finds that those same people, the Romney backers of yesterday and the Bush backers of tomorrow, pretty much do still run the party. “Romney Republicanism” is really just establishment Republicanism, broadly simpatico with grassroots conservatives on their approach to the economy (fewer taxes, less regulation) but far more corporatist and culturally remote on issues like gay marriage and immigration. More than anything, these people hate what fiscal brinksmanship does to their bottom lines. I know I’m a broken record on that subject, but if you want to know why tea-party identification has dropped over the last few years, pay attention to the dip in 2011 after the first debt-ceiling standoff. The donor class will make some concessions to conservatives (e.g., pro-life as a litmus test for candidates) in the interest of keeping the coalition together, but they’re not going to stand for shutdowns and debt-ceiling standoffs that threaten their money. That, above all, is why you’re seeing the Chamber of Commerce and “Romney Republicans” coming out swinging in the primaries this year. It’s not because there’s some rich vein of nostalgia for Romneymania 2012. It’s because they want to punch tea partiers in the face for “defund” and the ensuing shutdown last fall.

But don’t take my word for it. Here’s Business Week marveling at Republican business owners launching GOTV efforts and voter education drives among their employees for the express purpose of beating tea-party challengers in the primaries:

The aim of the corporate coalition is to avoid the nomination of untested candidates who could hurt Republican chances of taking control of the Senate away from the Democrats in November, as happened in the 2010 and 2012 elections. Republicans need a net gain of six seats to retake the chamber.

It’s also a mission to boost candidates who are better steeped in and more supportive of the business community’s agenda, including ensuring that the nation doesn’t default on its debt.

From Kentucky construction companies helping employees take on volunteer campaign jobs to company-branded websites in Idaho that allow workers to look at side-by-side comparisons of candidates on issues important to their employers, businesses are introducing a variety of political programs to engage their workers in typically low-turnout primary races.

“You never tell them how to vote, but you tell them where the candidates are on the issues that matter to their employer,” Casey said.

That’s “Romney Republicanism,” which was sufficiently “alive and well” in 2012, three years after the rise of the tea party, to propel Romney to the nomination and is sufficiently alive and well today to make amnesty for low-skilled illegal workers a live issue in the GOP House despite the base’s intense opposition. Ask yourself: If Romney Republicanism was dead, why would Jeb Bush be seriously considering running next year, Bush baggage and all? Why would Chris Christie, damaged by scandal and deeply suspect among grassroots righties, still be thinking of it? Why would Rubio, who got elected as a quasi-tea-partier, have backed amnesty and then begun to reposition himself as an establishment candidate? The answer: Because the donor class traditionally is the kingmaker of the nomination process, and there’s arguably less reason to doubt that they’ll play that role again in 2016, now that tea-party fervor has receded a bit, than there was to doubt it in 2012. That was my point in the McConnell thread last night: When these guys gear up and prepare thoroughly, they’re exceedingly hard to beat even with an unusually talented candidate like Ted Cruz. (Why do you think Cruz himself decided against going all in for Matt Bevin in Kentucky?) Romney Republicanism will be dead if/when the GOP manages to nominate and elect an ideological conservative to the presidency. Otherwise it’ll be the same old song from the donor class — ideologues can’t win, they’re an economic risk, ergo we need a steady pro-amnesty hand like Jeb Bush’s on the wheel.

Exit question: If “Romney Republicanism” is all or mostly about Mitt, why doesn’t he run again? That’s an easy way to test this hypothesis.


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Exit answer: Willard’s a squish!

idesign on May 21, 2014 at 7:24 PM

The Chamber of Commerce is winning….

d1carter on May 21, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Not Whigs yet?

Bmore on May 21, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Last night’s lesson: Romney Republicanism is alive and well

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

portlandon on May 21, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Romney Republicanism is doing so “well” they still need a few million articles to convince us of the Tea Party’s “irrelevance.”

viking01 on May 21, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Oh, fer Chrissake!

SailorMark on May 21, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Last night was a victory for ORCA.

steebo77 on May 21, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Last night’s message? What difference does it make.

Maxpower on May 21, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Romney Republicanism: The ability to run against one of the worst opponents and still lose because you can’t hammer him on his weakest point..

OR

Romney Republicanism: Hammer Republican primary opponents hard, and then call your Democratic opponent a “nice guy” while he savages you.

melle1228 on May 21, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Romney’s time has come and gone. The ‘new’ Romney is Jeb Bush, who would face the same fate, as he’s too much the ‘pub ‘gentleman’ to survive the Alynsky Treatment. ‘Our’ only hope is to put forth one who gives better than he gets. I recommend Attila the Hun.

vnvet on May 21, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Romney Republicanism is a contradiction of terms …

ShainS on May 21, 2014 at 7:29 PM

The Chamber of Commerce is winning….

d1carter on May 21, 2014 at 7:24 PM

The USCOC is winning skirmishes around the edges. They’re delusional if they think that pushing through amnesty is a winning issue with the electorate. The real unemployment rate in America is around 13% and these people keep pushing amnesty and more immigration.

If the surrender caucus of RINO Republicans don’t stop and listen to the base they’ll find themselves facing the political equivilant of Little Big Horn.

Happy Nomad on May 21, 2014 at 7:30 PM

You mean the same “Romney Republicanism” that

1. Runs ads in primaries pretending to be “Ted Cruz Republicanism”, 2. Portrays primary opponents as being more liberal or Democrat plants
3. Pumps lots of money into ads that never mention the planks of “Romney Republicanism”
4. Swing back into “Romney Republicanism” after the primaries and claim it won.

Yep, it sure is alive and well. But it certainly is a coward that refuses to run on its planks. It has to co-opt the message of another type of Republicanism.

TheRightMan on May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM

So businesses doing the same as Unions with regards to workers on ‘educating them’ on voting ‘issues’ is a big win?

It seems that both parties want the Nation to exist in some strange bubble where you are told what to do by your ‘betters’ be they Union bosses or Business bosses.

Remember: that is a WIN.

I’m hoping for a loss of this sort of thing.

ajacksonian on May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM

It’s also a mission to boost candidates who are better steeped in and more supportive of the business community’s agenda, including ensuring that the nation doesn’t default on its debt.

Translation: boost candidates who support illegal alien invasion/amnesty, even bigger government, and perpetual raising of the national debt floor …

ShainS on May 21, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Romney is an 0bama Republican.

They have bought into Obama’s Oligarchy of big business and big government doing business together, at the expense of the little guy.

The new Obama Republicans are members of the bureaucratic classes,
are pro-government, pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion, pro-NSA, and
pro-amnesty.
They are culturally closer to Obama’s and Romney’s view of the world than Reagan’s.
Power is everything. Power vindicates all.

The national GOP plays the very same identity politics that Obama
and the Democrats have played for years by embracing one victim group after another.

They can best be labeled the “Rollover Caucus.”

They’ve signed on to Obamacare because their corporate masters in the insurance companies and pharmaceutical industries told them to do so. They have always supported immigration reform because, again, their corporate masters told them to do so.

The Administrative state is here to stay, as long as the status quo
holds. The only question now is how long the Tea Party Reaganites stay with a party which is fundamentally opposed to them and despises them.

http://conservatives4palin.com/2014/05/open-thread-1030.html

Jayrae on May 21, 2014 at 7:33 PM

So, Romney’s alive and Bin Laden is dead?

Fallon on May 21, 2014 at 7:34 PM

melle1228 on May 21, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Romney Republicanism is all about being happy with the status quo. Big government is fine as long as Establishment has the wheel.

Bitter Clinger on May 21, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Team Romney.

Romney has a “team”? What exactly does this “team” do, other than lose elections and give advice to others about how to lose elections?

Pork-Chop on May 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM

the lesson of the last two days is that HA readers believe a governor who might not even win re-election is their top choice to run against hillary. many of whom believe a governor is the best candidate simply because they have proven executive experience. the best candidate is someone wants desperately to reduce the size of the federal government AND can reach out to those traditionally on the other side and connect with them, without sounding like they are pandering. rand paul and ben carson are the two best options to accomplish the goal of returning to a constitutional republic with a limited federal government. enough said.

dbilly76 on May 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM

YOU LOST TWICE, MITT.

Cheese Wheel on May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Exit question: If “Romney Republicanism” is all or mostly about Mitt, why doesn’t he run again? That’s an easy way to test this hypothesis.

That’s the funny part. It isn’t really about Mitt. It’s about the overall Establishment. And Jeb 2016 is their real goal.

Which means my prediction that Hillary will never be Prez will go up in flames.

Bitter Clinger on May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Bitter Clinger on May 21, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Exactly – “Me Too!” politics is for losers. No wonder people don’t like the Repubs (er, well sorta – the Democrats are much better and buying the votes of the LoFo’s). Though don’t stand for anything. Coulter is right. I mean, correct.

Bmore on May 21, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Dude, where did those guys go anyway?

Chuck Ef on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Of course, Romney Republicanism is alive and well. There’s no other Republicanism that has any chance. God, how tired I am of delusional people. He won the primary among Republicans. You may like it or not, no other people could get more support among Republicans. Why would you think they could get more support if you added Democrats and Independents in the mix, I have no clue.

Also, what kind of conservative are you if you think Romney must somehow win election by himself with “the true conservatives” looking from the sidelines? Isn’t government a bunch of people hired by us, according to, hum, Republicans? How is then Romney to blame for us not hiring him?

Look in the mirror. Your healthcare was about to be taken away, and you weren’t “inspired”. In other words, you’re a moron. Please deal with it… no really. Deal with it directly ASAP or we’re all doomed.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

and at buying

FIFM

Chuck Ef on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

So businesses doing the same as Unions with regards to workers on ‘educating them’ on voting ‘issues’ is a big win?

It seems that both parties want the Nation to exist in some strange bubble where you are told what to do by your ‘betters’ be they Union bosses or Business bosses.

Remember: that is a WIN.

I’m hoping for a loss of this sort of thing.

ajacksonian on May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM

I agree but think you should add the qualifier “big” to business. I know very few small businesses that want what the USCOC wants. The USCOC equals crony capitalism. They want to use the government to give them cheap foreign labor and regulations that hinder competitors. Having said that, small businesses need to do more to educate their employees on how big biz uses the USCOC and lobbyists to kill their jobs and make the US weaker.

ReaganWasRight on May 21, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Democrats are the party of billionaires, Republicans – the party of millionaires, so who does the middle class have?

Decaf on May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Of course, Romney Republicanism is alive and well. There’s no other Republicanism that has any chance. God, how tired I am of delusional people. He won the primary among Republicans. You may like it or not, no other people could get more support among Republicans. Why would you think they could get more support if you added Democrats and Independents in the mix, I have no clue.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

He won the primary because the establishment got behind him early, pumped money into his campaign and sent all of the most experienced consultants his way. The rest of the republican primary vote was split among the other six or so candidates.

Timin203 on May 21, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Last night’s lesson: Romney Republicanism is alive and well

‘Cuz, like, um, ya know, it worked out so well the first second time or something.

Resist We Much on May 21, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Did Romney have a message?

GaltBlvnAtty on May 21, 2014 at 7:44 PM

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Heh!! Mitt as savior of America.

That’s funny right there, I don’t care who ya’ are.

Bitter Clinger on May 21, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Wasn’t there a documentary about this?

Fallon on May 21, 2014 at 7:46 PM

dbilly76 on May 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Rand Paul has turned off every one that he originally turned on.

Stick a fork in him and his BFF Ditch Mitch.

Jayrae on May 21, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Was last night a testament to Romney’s enduring influence within the GOP or was it a testament to the enduring influence of the business lobby and the GOP’s donor class, which is overwhelmingly pro-business and thus was overwhelmingly pro-Romney in 2012?

Would you please — please, AP — stop referring to the “GOP donor class” as “pro-business”? They’re not; they’re crony socialists. Cronyism, as a economic tactic, can only take place in a socialist economy. It is a blatant tactic used by these donors to manipulate the socialist government to their economic advantage. This wouldn’t be happening if we had a free market. The “pro-business” idiots to whom you refer are Republican socialists, plain and simple.

They’re the problem — not the overt socialists, i.e., the Democrats. They’re not getting called on the carpet for this contradiction and that’s because the Republicans cannot — and thus, will not — morally refute socialism.

sixerfixer1976 on May 21, 2014 at 7:46 PM

He won the primary because the establishment got behind him early, pumped money into his campaign and sent all of the most experienced consultants his way. The rest of the republican primary vote was split among the other six or so candidates.

I’m sorry this is garbage. Obama is a hypocritical liar but he’s proven that you can have unlimited resources with the right message. (No, I personally don’t like his message but I live on this planet and I observe things as they happen.) Conservatives lose because their message sucks, according to American people.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:46 PM

“I think Republicans are sick of losing,” said Robert O’Brien, a Romney family friend who served as a foreign policy adviser to the campaign.

Well, now, we know who told Romney before the third and final debate, which was on foreign policy:

‘Agree with President Obama on everything and, whatever you do, do not bring up Benghazi or criticise him because Independents want bipartisanship and don’t want anyone to criticise the President.’

Resist We Much on May 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

A funny thing left out in the equation and never mentioned by the Republican Establishment flying monkeys….

How many of the Tea Party are FORMER Republicans and could not vote in the Republican primaries?

Yeah, that kinda gets overlooked.

While the Republican Establishment, or the newly branded “Obama Republicans” do their celebratory jigs and high five their Chamber of Commerce chaperones. Good luck getting votes for your guy in November.

We owe you jack squat.
You want us to vote for your guy, give us a reason.
The because your not a democrat no longer cuts it buddy.
If we stay home its because you gave us no reason to show up…
So suck it up buttercups and deal with it!
Its all on you.

Got Tea?

mikkins on May 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

The zombies from “Walking Dead” are technically alive too, but you still don’t want to get too close.

Bishop on May 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Exit question: If “Romney Republicanism” is all or mostly about Mitt, why doesn’t he run again? That’s an easy way to test this hypothesis.

I thought they said they were tired of losing.

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

ReaganWasRight on May 21, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Very true – big businesses are the ones with time and money to spend on such things. Small businesses have to make ends meet without gimmes and crony contracts, then suffer as they can’t give kickbacks of same to campaigns.

The Chamber of Commerce can go to hell as far as I’m concerned. Their writing of bills to get carve-outs and special tax breaks and incentives is sickening. The lack of transparency by them is deceitful, as are the businesses that support them. I’m against that sort of thing by activist groups on all sides and legislators should write the legislation: not outside groups, not their flunkies, not brown-nosers but the actual elected representatives.

The sort of ‘win’ that Obama and Romney see is the loss of equal opportunity and equal justice, and that is a sure path to tyranny, not liberty for all.

ajacksonian on May 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Did Romney have a message?

GaltBlvnAtty on May 21, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Sure. He’s severely conservative.

Oh, and Obama is a really nice guy.

Bitter Clinger on May 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Meanwhile

Schadenfreude on May 21, 2014 at 7:48 PM

The RINOs can’t admit what DW Schmutz knows, “the TEA party won”.

Schadenfreude on May 21, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Which means my prediction that Hillary will never be Prez will go up in flames.

Sadly, I have to agree. We are going through internecine bloodletting for nothing. The media now accounts for a 30% advantage to Dems so how do you overcome that?

Decaf on May 21, 2014 at 7:49 PM

I thought they said they were tired of losing.

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

This time it’ll be different.

LOL

Bitter Clinger on May 21, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Not Whigs yet?

No, they’re Whigs already.

formwiz on May 21, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Allah ❤’s Willard.

idesign on May 21, 2014 at 7:50 PM

He went on to add, “For too long our party has been without a powerful voice who has been able to help the most electable conservative candidates build support and raise the resources needed to navigate competitive primary contests. Governor Romney has filled that void.”

That he and others say electable conservatives is disingenuous. What they mean is electable Republican. The establishment game plan is to either hypnotize moderates and liberals, or try to completely give in on certain issues in the hopes of garnering enough gratitude to win over enough fools who could otherwise get more from liberals.

And I would advise Romney not to count his chickens before they hatch. An unorganized failure to produce half way decent alternative candidates doesn’t necessarily mean the base is dedicated to Republicans.

Dongemaharu on May 21, 2014 at 7:51 PM

Rand Paul has turned off every one that he originally turned on.

Stick a fork in him and his BFF Ditch Mitch.

Yep.

Decaf on May 21, 2014 at 7:52 PM

It is getting harder and harder to take the GOP seriously with their pitiful penchant for “next in line” and “retread” candidates. Please make it stop–it is like Chinese water torture.

KickandSwimMom on May 21, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Romney Republicanism is alive and well

LOL

Knock yourself out, GOP. Have fun with that.

Midas on May 21, 2014 at 7:53 PM

I thought they said they were tired of losing.

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

This time it’ll be different.

LOL

Bitter Clinger on May 21, 2014 at 7:50 PM

The Bullwinkle Doctrine.

Decaf on May 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

This time it’ll be different.

LOL

Bitter Clinger on May 21, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Hey, the GOP establishment knows best.

Pork-Chop on May 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Hi! I’m a True Conservative, and I will whine that other people fund bad people and no me, instead of admitting that I personally am a failure when it comes to running an effective campaign and seizing the nomination.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Anyone who couldn’t beat Barry in 2012 should not be gloating.

cat_owner on May 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Ronaldus Magnus realized the media were total whores to the DNC back in his day… especially Walter Cronkite.

What he did was take the message out to the people directly and with great success.

That won’t work for sellouts like Boehner and McConnell but for Cruz and Palin and Carson, it should.

viking01 on May 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Sadly, I have to agree. We are going through internecine bloodletting for nothing. The media now accounts for a 30% advantage to Dems so how do you overcome that?

Decaf on May 21, 2014 at 7:49 PM

By passing Amnesty, of course!

Those illegals are they’re sure to vote R …

#SaveTheRinos

ShainS on May 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Of course, Romney Republicanism is alive and well. There’s no other Republicanism that has any chance. God, how tired I am of delusional people. He won the primary among Republicans. You may like it or not, no other people could get more support among Republicans. Why would you think they could get more support if you added Democrats and Independents in the mix, I have no clue.

Also, what kind of conservative are you if you think Romney must somehow win election by himself with “the true conservatives” looking from the sidelines? Isn’t government a bunch of people hired by us, according to, hum, Republicans? How is then Romney to blame for us not hiring him?

Look in the mirror. Your healthcare was about to be taken away, and you weren’t “inspired”. In other words, you’re a moron. Please deal with it… no really. Deal with it directly ASAP or we’re all doomed.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Why did Romney act like a “true conservative” during the primaries only to shed his snake skin into a plain vanilla, slime-spined loser who reopened McCain’s book on how to lose elections? If he stayed the course, continued promoting lower taxes, following the constitution, stop out of control spending, and enforcing the rule of law and protecting our border, instead of stabbing the base in the back and melting into a timid moderate fan boy, then he would be president. He already flip flopped on immigration again after he lost the election.

After 2008, most conservatives being attacked by their own candidate, rising up and giving the republicans the house in 2010, and then being once again lied to by congress and after the primaries in 2012 and Romney turns into d-lite, eventually battered woman’s syndrome fails and the base gave the finger and said never again. We are not democrats. We won’t be urinated on and told it’s raining.
And, it’s TRUCON, I hear there’s even a brigade for that nut joana.

Cheese Wheel on May 21, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Romney is an 0bama Republican.

They have bought into Obama’s Oligarchy of big business and big government doing business together, at the expense of the little guy.

Jayrae on May 21, 2014 at 7:33 PM

My old political science professor would have one word for it: fascism.

TarheelBen on May 21, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Hi! I’m a True Conservative, and I will whine that other people fund bad people and no me, instead of admitting that I personally am a failure when it comes to running an effective campaign and seizing the nomination.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Hi!

Bishop on May 21, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Sadly, I have to agree. We are going through internecine bloodletting for nothing. The media now accounts for a 30% advantage to Dems so how do you overcome that?

Decaf on May 21, 2014 at 7:49 PM

By passing Amnesty, of course!

Those illegals are they’re sure to vote R …

#SaveTheRinos

ShainS on May 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM

And don’t forget eliminating those “offensive” (h/t Rand Paul) VOTER ID laws.

Pork-Chop on May 21, 2014 at 7:59 PM

The Bullwinkle Doctrine.

Decaf on May 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

We are still being haunted and taunted by the Bull Moose Party:

Viguerie argues in TAKEOVER that the civil war in the GOP started in 1912 when Teddy Roosevelt split the Republican Party in the pursuit of his personal political agenda and made progressivism the governing philosophy of the Republican establishment.

Even though conservative ideas about how to govern tend to be the majority opinion in America, the Democratic Party is now the political home of secular liberals says Viguerie. In TAKEOVER Viguerie argues that the present leadership of the GOP is a progressive elite that sees big government as often inefficient, but not wrong.

Conservatives must take control of the Republican Party if it is to be a real alternative to the big government secularism of the Democratic Party.

Fallon on May 21, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Why do you think Cruz himself decided against going all in for Matt Bevin in Kentucky?

I think Cruz and Lee stayed neutral in the KY and MS races because they don’t want to be openly campaigning against their Senate colleagues. Even DeMint did not endorse candidates who were running against R incumbents (like Toomey and Lee for example).

cat_owner on May 21, 2014 at 8:00 PM

viking01 on May 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Exactly.

… as well as fight back against, and when appropriate mock, the sycophantic LSM whores (again, characteristics at the national level possessed by pretty much only the three you mentioned).

ShainS on May 21, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Ronaldus Magnus realized the media were total whores to the DNC back in his day… especially Walter Cronkite.

What he did was take the message out to the people directly and with great success.

That won’t work for sellouts like Boehner and McConnell but for Cruz and Palin and Carson, it should.

viking01 on May 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Be specific – how’d he do that? It certainly wasn’t one person at a time, in person. It wasn’t by hiring skywriters, sending smoke signals, etc.

With talk radio, the internet, and at least Fox News in the mix, the GOP *still* can’t make it happen? Seriously?

And where the f*ck are the rich GOP f*ckheads like Limbaugh, Hannity, Koch Brothers, Levin, etc – why the f*ck aren’t they putting their money where their mouths are and targeting someone like McConnell or Graham so their feeble challenger doesn’t get outspent 5:1?

Sorry, I’m not seeing a conservative way out of this short of the whole thing burning down at this point. GOP passes amnesty, and that’s the *only* way this can end. It’s too far gone for ‘the system’ to be able to correct itself anymore, especially when the people who *do* have the means to wield some monetary influence in the right direction simply don’t.

Midas on May 21, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Hi! I’m a True Conservative, and I will whine that other people fund bad people and no me, instead of admitting that I personally am a failure when it comes to running an effective campaign and seizing the nomination.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Scratch my post. Good one, joana. I cannot believe I wasted time.

Cheese Wheel on May 21, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Its a huge machine that he is built.

He doesn’t have to run, but whomever he endorses, and how enthusiastically, is absolutely a major factor now.

One reason I think Paul Ryan is still a dark horse for 2016. If he runs the Romney machine and donors will back him full throttle.

swamp_yankee on May 21, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Get that picture out of our faces.

Schadenfreude on May 21, 2014 at 8:01 PM

A better question to ask might be why didn’t Palin go all in for Bevin? Perhaps she didn’t think he had a chance.

She endorsed McDaniel though.

cat_owner on May 21, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Yup, The Establishment “won” alright. Fewer people voted for Romney than voted for McCain. Declare war on those Tea Partiers, guys. You’ll show us a thing or two.

I haven’t decided whether I am going to vote Libertarian or stay home come November. You sure showed me.

307wolverine on May 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Arguing that Romney lost by 100 electoral votes because of himself instead of an ultra-corrupt media cabal is disingenuous at best.

HopeHeFails on May 21, 2014 at 8:04 PM

I’m sure the Obama Republicans will do just fine without our votes. They’ll call us “traitors” and “scumbags” for our failure to support them no matter what, but they’ll do fine. They’ll go home rich no matter what happens, and they can always get jobs as lobbyists. The country’s going to hell, but they’ll be fine.

Aitch748 on May 21, 2014 at 8:05 PM

the lesson of the last two days is that HA readers believe a governor who might not even win re-election is their top choice to run against hillary. many of whom believe a governor is the best candidate simply because they have proven executive experience. the best candidate is someone wants desperately to reduce the size of the federal government AND can reach out to those traditionally on the other side and connect with them, without sounding like they are pandering. rand paul and ben carson are the two best options to accomplish the goal of returning to a constitutional republic with a limited federal government. enough said.

dbilly76 on May 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM

That may be true of political junkies and those who follow politics, but the average voter doesn’t care. They want a rock star. Obama changed the office of president forever. Competent need not to apply.

Redford on May 21, 2014 at 8:07 PM

He doesn’t have to run, but whomever he endorses, and how enthusiastically, is absolutely a major factor now.

One reason I think Paul Ryan is still a dark horse for 2016. If he runs the Romney machine and donors will back him full throttle.

swamp_yankee on May 21, 2014 at 8:01 PM

If Paul Ryan and the GOP establishment are successful in ramming AMNESTY through this year, or next, there won’t even be any reason for the GOP to run anyone in 2016 – as Republicans will never be able to win the White House again.

Pork-Chop on May 21, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Hi! I’m a True Conservative, and I will whine that other people fund bad people and no me, instead of admitting that I personally am a failure when it comes to running an effective campaign and seizing the nomination.
PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Howdy. I’m an establishment whore who likes voting for lifers in perpetuity, trying to out-give democrats and gradually erasing the differences between the two parties to secure a seat. In fact, I’ll do anything to get a seat, even if it means doing nothing once I get it.

Dongemaharu on May 21, 2014 at 8:07 PM

As someone said last night, if the “base” doesn’t want establishment Republicans, why do they keep voting for them? The other option is that capital has decided it doesn’t want any tea partiers in Congress, and capital, as we know, is unstoppable so bye bye tea party. Whether you call it “crony” capitalism or not, the Chamber of Commerce–which lies at the center of American capitalism–is rejecting the tea party now. I think we can say there’s a consensus among the investment class.

But, as always, you’ll look at this object lesson in the fact that capital controls the state, and not vice versa, and *still* conclude that the problem is “the government.” Even though it is the “job creators” who have uniformly looked at your movement and said, “no;’” you’ll still blame “the government.” When will you get it through your thick skulls that “the government” is just an arm of the corporation. They have their marketing budget, and their lobbying budget, both things are part of their strategies to extract resources from your wages. But now, it’s “the government.” Wake up.

libfreeordie on May 21, 2014 at 8:08 PM

He doesn’t have to run, but whomever he endorses, and how enthusiastically, is absolutely a major factor now.

One reason I think Paul Ryan is still a dark horse for 2016. If he runs the Romney machine and donors will back him full throttle.

swamp_yankee on May 21, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Ryan would be an effective president, however, he’s too smart and we need him as speaker. Sorry, but Ryan doesn’t posses the ‘rock star status’ needed….

Romney backers are flirting with Jeb…a certain loser.

Redford on May 21, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Arguing that Romney lost by 100 electoral votes because of himself instead of an ultra-corrupt media cabal is disingenuous at best.

HopeHeFails on May 21, 2014 at 8:04 PM

The main reason that Romney lost was because he had no interest in running, or winning.

“He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life. He had no desire to run … If he could have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside.”

- Tagg Romney, December 2012

Pork-Chop on May 21, 2014 at 8:11 PM

One reason I think Paul Ryan is still a dark horse for 2016. If he runs the Romney machine and donors will back him full throttle.

What is the point? He will fold against Hillary just as he did in the face of Biden’s mugging. In fact Palin did better in the debate against Biden than Ryan did four years later.

Decaf on May 21, 2014 at 8:13 PM

romney republicanism….losing for exactly the reasons we said he would. hell at least hes consistent.

dmacleo on May 21, 2014 at 8:13 PM

I am always amazed when the Democrats start a media campaign to manipulate public opinion and ignorant RINO fools jump on board pimping exactly what the Democrats wanted them to.

Jeb and George are not the answer.

We are 17 trillion in debt and the RINO Republican Party is just as responsible as any of the liberals.

They should have just said “no”.

No Chop Charlie on May 21, 2014 at 8:13 PM

libfreeordie on May 21, 2014 at 8:08 PM

shutup racist.

dmacleo on May 21, 2014 at 8:14 PM

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

If this is the best we are going to get, why are you bitching? Are you upset that not everyone is satisfied? Glad your happy with your choices, good for you. But you don’t get to decide that for everyone.

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2014 at 8:14 PM

It’s not over yet RINO establishment:

Two major conservative groups are dropping more than half a million dollars into ad buys in Mississippi, two weeks ahead of the June 3 election, to give state Sen. Chris McDaniel an extra boost over six-term incumbent Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) in the primary.

Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund is spending $400,000 on a new ad buy over television and radio and Citizens United Political Victory Fund is dropping $175,000 on a new television buy in the state, they both announced Wednesday.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/21/Big-Tea-Party-Bucks-Come-In-For-McDaniel-In-Mississippi

cat_owner on May 21, 2014 at 8:16 PM

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Any yet he lost. I can’t understand why you think that conservatives should shut up when we suggest that maybe an actual conservative agenda and plan to fix our problems just might interest those who are not thrilled with where we are today. Reagan didn’t change his views to match Democrats, he convinced people that Democrat views weren’t working.

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2014 at 8:20 PM

What he [Reagan] did was take the message out to the people directly and with great success.

viking01 on May 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Be specific – how’d he do that?

Midas on May 21, 2014 at 8:00 PM

IIRC, among other things, he gave weekly Presidential radio addresses as well as occasional Presidential television addresses, and sent representatives out all across the country to speak directly with citizens to convey his message effectively (and without filter/spin from the media) …

ShainS on May 21, 2014 at 8:22 PM

If this is the case than why are these establishment candidates running as hardcore hardline no compromise conservatives?

Shouldn’t these establishment types be able to run as compromosing go along to get along moderates and cruise to victory, if Romney Republicanism is alive?

tcufrog on May 21, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Quite frankly this pushback will receive its own pushback in 2016. After the GOP takes the Senate and then does absolutely jack to fulfill their fiscal promises, don’t expect the “tea party” to just roll over in 2016, the donor class will of course be happy and thus unaware to the populist backlash coming.

MWC_RS on May 21, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Howdy. I’m an establishment whore who likes voting for lifers in perpetuity, trying to out-give democrats and gradually erasing the differences between the two parties to secure a seat. In fact, I’ll do anything to get a seat, even if it means doing nothing once I get it.

At least you don’t blame others for your own failures.

Dear mo… True Conservatives. Romney lost to Obama… after all of you lost to Romney. Yes, Romney “didn’t want to win” or whatever in the general elections… after all of you “didn’t want” to beat Romney in the primaries. Please beat it into your st… True Conservative heads with a hammer.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 8:25 PM

cat_owner on May 21, 2014 at 8:00 PM

DeMint endorsed Lee after Bennett came in third at convention and thus wouldn’t be in the primary ( between Lee and Tidewater)

DeMint also endorsed Toomey, while Specter was still an R. But that was an exceptional case. Specter is an old school Rockefeller Republican. And he wasn’t that well liked in the conference. Cochran and McConnell are Dixicrats and McConnell is the minority leader and thus holds the key to life and death over Lee and Cruz’s political futures.

MWC_RS on May 21, 2014 at 8:27 PM

libfreeordie on May 21, 2014 at 8:08 PM

shutup racist.

dmacleo on May 21, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Eloquent.

libfreeordie on May 21, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Any yet he lost. I can’t understand why you think that conservatives should shut up when we suggest that maybe an actual conservative agenda and plan to fix our problems just might interest those who are not thrilled with where we are today. Reagan didn’t change his views to match Democrats, he convinced people that Democrat views weren’t working.

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Grand slam!!!!!!!

Jayrae on May 21, 2014 at 8:30 PM

I can’t understand why you think that conservatives should shut up when we suggest that maybe an actual conservative agenda and plan to fix our problems just might interest those who are not thrilled with where we are today.

They shouldn’t shut up. It’s a great idea. Here’s a thought though. How about you start by winning a primary, which is a contest with a far more friendly audience than a general election?

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Quite frankly this pushback will receive its own pushback in 2016. After the GOP takes the Senate and then does absolutely jack to fulfill their fiscal promises, don’t expect the “tea party” to just roll over in 2016, the donor class will of course be happy and thus unaware to the populist backlash coming.

MWC_RS on May 21, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Yes, I think it’s going to be hard for Republicans for here on. They may win in the short term on Obamacare, but when they demonstrate they have no intention of getting rid of it, but rather continue with their old ways, their gains will quickly disappear. This two party sham will soon be at an end. The appearance of the Tea Party is the beginning of that eventuality.

rickv404 on May 21, 2014 at 8:35 PM

A big myth is that Reagan was some staunch ideologue. He compromised all the time. He was buddies with Tip O’Neill. He orchestrated one of the grand amnesty deals of the century. Boehner talks about it and gets slammed. Reagan did it and is worshiped. Reagan did zip, zilch, nada to reduce to siz and scope of government.

I understand the psychological need for heroes, but the Reagan worship from guys like Rush and Levin gets a little much.

swamp_yankee on May 21, 2014 at 8:36 PM

As someone said last night, if the “base” doesn’t want establishment Republicans, why do they keep voting for them? The other option is that capital has decided it doesn’t want any tea partiers in Congress, and capital, as we know, is unstoppable so bye bye tea party. Whether you call it “crony” capitalism or not, the Chamber of Commerce–which lies at the center of American capitalism–is rejecting the tea party now. I think we can say there’s a consensus among the investment class.

libfreeordie on May 21, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Because these establishment candidates are running on the tea party platform. They blanket the airwaves with non stop ads touting themselves as the most conservative people ever.

tcufrog on May 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM

When will you get it through your thick skulls that “the government” is just an arm of the corporation. They have their marketing budget, and their lobbying budget, both things are part of their strategies to extract resources from your wages. But now, it’s “the government.” Wake up.

libfreeordie on May 21, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Agreed. Who pays your salary?

Bishop on May 21, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Agreed. Who pays your salary?

Bishop on May 21, 2014 at 8:38 PM

The government. So yes, I recognize that I am part of a corporation. And so is the idea that only those not employed by corporations can critique their control of the government? Because that’s a handy truism for anyone seeking to maintain and expand corporate power.

libfreeordie on May 21, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Of course, Romney Republicanism is alive and well. There’s no other Republicanism that has any chance. God, how tired I am of delusional people. He won the primary among Republicans. You may like it or not, no other people could get more support among Republicans. Why would you think they could get more support if you added Democrats and Independents in the mix, I have no clue.

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Romney won the primaries because he outspent his primary opponents 5-1 or 7-1. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is winning elections for the same reason – significantly outspending its opponents.

bw222 on May 21, 2014 at 8:42 PM

PBH on May 21, 2014 at 8:34 PM

You sound rational but deep in my heart if a Reagan appeared on the horizon I feel like you would be horrified unless he pandered to the masses. Isn’t it painfully obvious that we have enough stupid people in the U.S. (electing The Won twice) that joining them might not be the best course of action.

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

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