Carney: Obama? Detached? Such a silly “Republican meme.”

posted at 6:41 pm on May 21, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

Granted, I’m sure it is challenging for a president to stay personally apprised of the wealth of mismanagement, incompetence, and downright corruption that takes place in the massive machine we now have for a federal bureaucracy, a machine that President Obama didn’t create all on his own — but… if one of your basic premises for governing is that we should be expanding and empowering that bureaucracy further and further, you should perhaps make just a bit more of an effort with the accountability on, oh, I don’t know — your crowning legislative achievement. Or maybe by not sending signals to government employees everywhere that disastrous ineptitude and/or fraud will basically be met with a shrug of the executive’s shoulders, on both the Veterans’ Affairs fiasco and other actually deadly scandals. Via RCP:

REPORTER: What about this criticism of his management style? Is he too detached from some of the nuts and bolts of running the government, running an administration –

JAY CARNEY: I know that’s a Republican meme, and –

REPORTER: — [inaudible] catching him off guard. The healthcare website, now this.

CARNEY: I think that if you look at how the president handles a challenge like the website and handles this challenge, he responds by demanding action, demanding that Americans who are counting on benefits and services — whether it is a functioning website or benefits through the VA — that they are taken care of. And you saw that with the efforts that were undertaken to fix the website and you’ve seen that with the efforts that are already underway to investigate the problems and allegations that have arisen here with regards to the waiting times for appointments at facilities around the country. And he expects results and he holds people accountable. And when we see whether or not some of these allegations prove to be true, he will insist that misconduct, mismanagement will be met with consequences.


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Give him some lego’s some jammies and a binkie and let him sit in the closet snotting on his own legs for the next two years.

Never in my LIFE have I loathed a CIC and I come from a very, very, very long line of Military.

/spit.

Oh, and Bishop

Key West Reader on May 21, 2014 at 6:44 PM

How about ‘unhinged’? That works pretty well for me… detached just sounds so far away…

ajacksonian on May 21, 2014 at 6:44 PM

It amazes me the press corp. even show up anymore.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2014 at 6:45 PM

theater……

All of it just a pile of crap.

Just keep the warm milk flowing off the Federal sow and her teats and we’ll be happy right Jay?

PappyD61 on May 21, 2014 at 6:45 PM

How does Carney continue to lie with a straight face?

OmahaConservative on May 21, 2014 at 6:47 PM

it’s over folk……

Now Obama has this national park on the border with Mexico and the gateway will be out of the reach of states.

Viva the Mexican States of America………until someone complains about that name being European.

PappyD61 on May 21, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Carney truly is the Heidi Fleiss of White House press secretaries.

viking01 on May 21, 2014 at 6:48 PM

That’s one of the things his father taught him.

rogerb on May 21, 2014 at 6:48 PM

And when we see whether or not some of these allegations prove to be true, he will insist that misconduct, mismanagement will be met with consequences.

Oh Jay, I understand. Like he did in Benghazi!!!

Walter L. Newton on May 21, 2014 at 6:48 PM

It amazes me the press corp. even show up anymore.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2014 at 6:45 PM

This is my opinion as well, just STOP SHOWING UP!
Of course, they represent the news agencies who employ them.
So, show up and ask inane questions about kittens in a squeaky voice.

Tard on May 21, 2014 at 6:50 PM

to investigate the problems and allegations

Allegations? Allegations.

You sputtering little twit of a filthy apparatchik talking head peon yes-boy, no matter how much you lie and obfuscate, the nation is getting a face-full of just what sort of loser they elected 5 years ago.

Bishop on May 21, 2014 at 6:51 PM

he holds people accountable.

Name one, Clown Carney.

Clown Carney Compares Journos Asking Questions About Scandals To Birthers…

Resist We Much on May 21, 2014 at 6:53 PM

If only Carney and his sycophantic ilk could be held ‘accountable’. Allah has it right as usual, in that there seems to be an ongoing Kibuki(?) within this Admin to confuse everyone but those in ‘the know’. The trouble is, most of those who are in charge of gummint are, indeed, ‘nuts and dolts’. Huh? Must. Have. Another. Beer. Arm yourselves. It’s gonna be a bumpy ride…

vnvet on May 21, 2014 at 6:54 PM

“Detached” implies he was once attached.

myiq2xu on May 21, 2014 at 6:55 PM

How does Carney continue to lie with a straight face?

OmahaConservative on May 21, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Communists lie with impunity .. with nary a feeling.

Like Obama does. It’s an art – that should be admired.

/

Key West Reader on May 21, 2014 at 6:57 PM

BREAKING NEWS: California woman escapes 10 years after she was kidnapped aged 15, raped continuously, forced to marry her abductor and have his child

A woman who was 15 when she disappeared 10 years ago from her California home has contacted police and says she was held against her will for years. The Santa Ana Police Department said Wednesday that they have booked her captor, 41-year-old Isidro Garcia (above), on suspicion of kidnapping for rape, lewd acts with a minor and false imprisonment. Police say she was dating Garcia in 2004, when she was 15. Police say that after assaulting her mother, Garcia drugged the girl and drove her to a house in Compton where he locked her in a garage.

War on women.

Resist We Much on May 21, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Allah called it… investigations have been launched. Now comes the “no comment while the issue is under investigation” phase.

Capricio on May 21, 2014 at 7:00 PM

BREAKING NEWS: California woman escapes 10 years after she was kidnapped aged 15, raped continuously, forced to marry her abductor and have his child

A woman who was 15 when she disappeared 10 years ago from her California home has contacted police and says she was held against her will for years. The Santa Ana Police Department said Wednesday that they have booked her captor, 41-year-old Isidro Garcia (above), on suspicion of kidnapping for rape, lewd acts with a minor and false imprisonment. Police say she was dating Garcia in 2004, when she was 15. Police say that after assaulting her mother, Garcia drugged the girl and drove her to a house in Compton where he locked her in a garage.

War on women.

Resist We Much on May 21, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Hmmm, I bet Jay Carney knows at least five Isidro Garcia’s…

oscarwilde on May 21, 2014 at 7:00 PM

I wish the Vets would march on DC. Raise holy hell.

bazil9 on May 21, 2014 at 7:03 PM

CARNEY: I think that if you look at how the president handles a challenge like the website and handles this challenge, he responds by demanding action,

Hey Jay, I know this may come as a shock to you but in these situations the United States President is expected to ACT rather than demand action.

Senator Thune put it well this afternoon. When the Obamacare website was imploding, the administration spent countless resources and issued an “all hands on deck” order to save Obamacare. When it is clear that the VA is abusing and neglecting veterans, he sent one guy to make sure he has political coverage in whatever the internal report yields.

Simply disgraceful, and yes, Obama is detached because he doesn’t give a damn about veterans. Remember that as we remember our war dead this weekend. Some of those who survived war were killed by Barak Obama, Eric Shinseki, and the VA.

Happy Nomad on May 21, 2014 at 7:03 PM

I find it amazing that Obama can get his whole arm up Carney’s backside in order to move the mouth. He’s so lifelike.

portlandon on May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Allah called it… investigations have been launched. Now comes the “no comment while the issue is under investigation” phase.

Capricio on May 21, 2014 at 7:00 PM

After a couple of months it will be: A phony, Republican, Fox News scandal; not a smidgeon of corruption phase.

TarheelBen on May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM

CARNEY: I think that if you look at how the president handles a challenge like the website and handles this challenge, he responds by demanding action, demanding that Americans who are counting on benefits and services — whether it is a functioning website or benefits through the VA — that they are taken care of. And you saw that with the efforts that were undertaken to fix the website and you’ve seen that with the efforts that are already underway to investigate the problems and allegations that have arisen here with regards to the waiting times for appointments at facilities around the country. And he expects results and he holds people accountable. And when we see whether or not some of these allegations prove to be true, he will insist that misconduct, mismanagement will be met with consequences.

That the website is now functioning is a Democratic meme.

Lolo on May 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM

I wish the Vets would march on DC. Raise holy hell.

bazil9 on May 21, 2014 at 7:03 PM

So the vets themselves are the only ones that should care enough to raise holy hell? Isn’t this more something that all Americans should be outraged about?

Happy Nomad on May 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM

…that’s why JugEars is always reading about it…just now!…like you folks did!

KOOLAID2 on May 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM

I wish the Vets would march on DC. Raise holy hell.

bazil9 on May 21, 2014 at 7:03 PM

When they took care of business when Ogabe tried to shut down and barricade our Vietnam War Memorial that was a sight to see.

viking01 on May 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM

FBI chief: Fort Hood shooting WAS inspired by al-Qaeda despite the government terming it ‘workplace violence’

Resist We Much on May 21, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Don’t hold your breath that these hero’s will get their fair share. Only Eric Holder’s people and Bart Obama’s people will get their fair share of your money.

/spit.

Key West Reader on May 21, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Happy Nomad on May 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM

I didn’t mean to imply that only the Vets should.
I would go myself!

bazil9 on May 21, 2014 at 7:07 PM

The only thing I want to hear this guy say is,”Golly, Mr. Peabody, where are we going this time?”

Cleombrotus on May 21, 2014 at 7:07 PM

viking01 on May 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Sure was.

bazil9 on May 21, 2014 at 7:08 PM

And the fact that the nation is financially and morally bankrupt, with an exponentially-increasing $200+ trillion in debt (when unfunded liabilities are included) …

… is just a racist Republican meme.

ShainS on May 21, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Detached? No.

Unhinged? Most definitely.

Dusty on May 21, 2014 at 7:11 PM

I didn’t mean to imply that only the Vets should.
I would go myself!

bazil9 on May 21, 2014 at 7:07 PM

I didn’t think you did. I just wanted to make the point that this is something all Americans should care about. I can easily see the administration ultimately painting this as a bunch of disgruntled vets and not something that is an urgent matter.

Happy Nomad on May 21, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Happy Nomad on May 21, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Gotcha

bazil9 on May 21, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Shaking my head.

How can FLOTUS and “Doctor Jill” be SO involved with Military families and not have known about this issue?

Because, they Lied.. with smiles on their faces.

How could Bruck Obama have spoken out about VA Abuse back in 2007, and after he was briefed in 2008….

What Farking Evah.

Key West Reader on May 21, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Carney bears resemblance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc2o8ywKqos

docflash on May 21, 2014 at 7:22 PM

How does Carney continue to lie with a straight face?

OmahaConservative on May 21, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Obama vets his press secretaries based on whether or not they can make it through the entire job interview without once telling the truth.

The Rogue Tomato on May 21, 2014 at 7:24 PM

How’s that FBI Benghazi investigation going…?

d1carter on May 21, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Is it just me or is the Obama administration in a death spiral.

The lies, misinformation and deception are spewing out of the White Hose on almost an hourly basis.

This administration is on the verge of collapse.

Take that meme & smoke it, Carney.

MichaelGabriel on May 21, 2014 at 7:28 PM

You know how they figure out how much an area spends per pupil in a school district? I bet if they did that with the VA budget and the number of people helped it would drive everyone crazy. I bet if it was divided by total veterans and those enlisted, it might still be a lot of money. That’s what we do here, we spend a ton of money to get very bad results.

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Pointing out the obvious:

Carney DIDN’T answer the question.

Carney: Obama? Detached? Such a silly “Republican meme.”

Gotta’ stop allowing this ongoing change-o-the-subject by Obama Admin. Demand an answer TO THE QUESTION.

Lourdes on May 21, 2014 at 7:33 PM

‘ he responds by demanding action’

You just can’t make this stuff up….

Holy Jesus…

…and we still have a couple more years of this horse $hit to look FORWARD to….

GAH!!!

BigWyo on May 21, 2014 at 7:33 PM

And he expects results and he holds people accountable

wow…just wow…

BigWyo on May 21, 2014 at 7:34 PM

to investigate the problems and allegations

Allegations? Allegations.

You sputtering little twit of a filthy apparatchik talking head peon yes-boy, no matter how much you lie and obfuscate, the nation is getting a face-full of just what sort of loser they elected 5 years ago.

Bishop on May 21, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Once again, I agree with Bishop.

I’ve been commenting about this “distraction” talk by Obama and Admin for a while now: present a problem to them, they’ll (he will, his handlers and assists will) then address THE ALLEGATIONS (of the problem but not the problem).

Obama’s made it clear that he’s “mad about” “what’s alleged” and “if the allegations are true, then” but he doesn’t address the problem/s specifically. Everything in Obama-Speak is dubious, unproven, “alleged,” and likely as not to be untrue as anything else. Thus, he never addresses the issues, only expresses doubts about what’s “alleged”.

Lourdes on May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM

How can FLOTUS and “Doctor Jill” be SO involved with Military families and not have known about this issue?

Key West Reader on May 21, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Because the Yeti and Jill’s actual involvement has been a bunch of PSAs from the White House and selective photo-ops with the children of military personnel. They’ve really not talked to the military families in meaningful way. They’ve not had real discussions with families living at a Fisher House or having to deal with the VA bureaucracy. They are potemkin spokeswhores for the idea that Obama cares about military families.

And BTW, I refuse to acknowledge Jill Biden as Doctor Jill. Lynne Cheney’s education credentials are more impressive and she managed to get through her time in DC without insisting on “respect for the degree.”

Happy Nomad on May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM

I find it amazing that Obama can get his whole arm up Carney’s backside in order to move the mouth. He’s so lifelike.

portlandon on May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM

THAT’S NOT HIS ARM!!!

Tard on May 21, 2014 at 7:40 PM

The only thing I want to hear this guy say is,”Golly, Mr. Peabody, where are we going this time?”

Cleombrotus on May 21, 2014 at 7:07 PM

I’m stealing that.

Tard on May 21, 2014 at 7:40 PM

he will insist that misconduct, mismanagement will be met with consequences.

Right, and the consequences are that the bureaucrats responsible will secretly be promoted and transferred to some other government agency so they don’t lose any of their benefits (and so they’re not tempted to testify against their crooked bosses).

Government employment is better than any union job. You never get fired, no matter how incompetent, corrupt, or criminal your behavior is.

AZCoyote on May 21, 2014 at 7:43 PM

I’d love to ascribe all of this to incompetence, but no one is THIS incompetent.

EA_MAN on May 21, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Carney looks either stoned, or like he hasn’t slept in days in this video.

And Walter L. Newton on May 21, 2014 at 6:48 PM, said:

And when we see whether or not some of these allegations prove to be true, he will insist that misconduct, mismanagement will be met with consequences.

Oh Jay, I understand. Like he did in Benghazi!!!

And with the IRS scandal, the other federal agencies that got in on the targeting of conservative groups and colluded with the IRS, Fast and Furious, the unconstitutional (as found by federal court) “recess” appointments, the NSA spying, and a whole host of other scandals.

Rational Db8 on May 21, 2014 at 9:44 PM

REPORTER: What about this criticism of his management style? Is he too detached from some of the nuts and bolts of running the government, running an administration –

JAY CARNEY: I know that’s a bad thing, and – as soon as I figure out what you’re saying, I’ll come up with a good, defensive lie. Now if you’ll excuse me, I must go and sacrifice a goat, and draw my Master a bath made from children’s tears…

…Oh, excuse me. I watched this clip while high, and it allows me to see into the heart of men’s thoughts and souls. You know, like Lamont Cranston…you all probably didn’t see that part.

a5minmajor on May 21, 2014 at 10:00 PM

As bad as it seemed, I was slightly less worried when I thought the POTUS was simply disengaged. Now that Carney has me convinced that is not the case, the situation is positively awful as a few of the reaming alternatives are: incompetent, unfit, deficient, malignant, malevolent, maniacal, imperious, staggering mindlessness, tyrannical, mean (some or all of the above). I was unable to come up with a positive alternative to explain the state of our government. Carney appeared to be slightly less than truthful in his defense of his boss. He must spend a lot of time scraping the bottoms of his shoes.

peck on May 21, 2014 at 11:01 PM

How does Carney continue to lie with a straight face?

OmahaConservative on May 21, 2014 at 6:47 PM

IDK…he’s a piece of crap?

OxyCon on May 21, 2014 at 11:55 PM

How does Carney continue to lie with a straight face?

OmahaConservative on May 21, 2014 at 6:47 PM

IDK…he’s a piece of crap?

OxyCon on May 21, 2014 at 11:55 PM

Someone that can do that month after month, year after year has to have very little self-respect.

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2014 at 12:15 AM

he responds by demanding action

The time for action is when the task is at hand, not years later when you “suddenly” “discover” that the task is not done. The website was a three-year-plus project; demanding action in October 2013 is something about a horse and a barn door. The VA problems prompted you to speak out about them in 2007; demanding action about something you “discovered” in May 2014 rings superbly hollow.

The Schaef on May 22, 2014 at 9:31 AM

And he expects results and he holds people accountable.

What accountability, when according to you guys, everything in the administration goes perfectly according to plan and Republicans just invent non-troversies to vent their hate at Black President? Which is it: are people accountable for problems, or are the problems fabricted?

The Schaef on May 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM

His management style simply reflects the lack of experience he had managing anything prior to being entrusted with the Presidency. (Oops I forgot, when asked what experience he had in 08 we were told he ran his campaign….? So there was that.)

This is really all too predictable.

jjjdad on May 22, 2014 at 10:02 AM

How can you accuse the man who was not even in the WAR Room in the WH while the Benghazi Compound was under seige for 12 hours by terrorists, while the U.S. Ambassador HE appointed could not be found, while 4 Americans died, and while 20 (TWENTY) Embassies throughout the Middle East were attacked on that day (9/11/12 – the anniverary of 9/11/01)?

He was ‘connected’ — he had wittle ‘Doogie Houser’ running things in the WAR room for him and editing all those CIA cables discribing the attack as a ‘terrorist’ attack to call it a ‘ptotest’!

The VA? He is only the ‘Commander and Chierf of the Armed Forces’. That doesn’t mean he has to like or care about them! He has someone else to worry about that insignificant task….but they kept him abreast of what was going on.

(O): “Wait a minute everybody – turn the music down. What did Fox News just say about a ‘VA Scandal’? Great! Just friggin’ GREAT! Somebody get on the phone and find out what the h@ll THIS one is about! Gimme ‘Doogie’ ASAP – get him re-writing some press releases, and have him prep General Whatshisname.”

easyt65 on May 22, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Which is it: are people accountable for problems, or are the problems fabricted?

The Schaef on May 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM

People are accountable of course.

Next week the problems will be fabricated.

Keep up would ya.

runawayyyy on May 22, 2014 at 12:52 PM