Open thread: McConnellgeddon

posted at 6:23 pm on May 20, 2014 by Allahpundit

To clarify, “McConnellgeddon” is when McConnell destroys a tea-party challenger with the force of an asteroid impact, not when he himself is destroyed.

Ed previewed the carnage this morning but you deserve a thread to mourn and guess the spread. (A savvy politico friend on Twitter predicts a relatively narrow Mitch win by 12-14 points.) Matt Bevin sounds bitter:

“There’s little that I did not anticipate to some degree,” Mr. Bevin said as he sat in a Louisville cafe. “I did my homework, I know who I’m running against, I know what his methodology is: Define the opponent before they define themselves. You malign. You slash and smear. You mock, you ridicule and you question, and then you come out and declare victory.”…

He added: “I have been disheartened by how generally apathetic people really, truly are about taking ownership in their role in the political process. It wasn’t a surprise, but I’ve just been disheartened by how true it really is.”…

He attributed [Rand] Paul’s endorsement of Mr. McConnell to Mr. Paul’s presidential ambitions, and rejected the notion, floated by advisers to both senators, that they became friends through their wives.

Politico has a pre-election postmortem on how McConnell beat back the tea party, although most of it will be familiar to you if you’ve been following the race even casually. How bad do things look for the challenger? Even Erick Erickson’s thrown in the towel:

Between McConnell’s easy ride to victory and Lindsey Graham’s trouble-free reelection campaign in South Carolina thus far, it’s worth asking just how vulnerable GOP incumbents are to tea-party primary challenges anymore. Philip Klein surveys the landscape and says, “Not very.” But that’s not altogether bad news:

The perception that Tea Partiers were routinely knocking off incumbent Senators in previous years is a myth. The reality is that it’s only happened a few times since the movement gained electoral influence. In 2010, incumbent Sen. Bob Bennett was ousted in the Utah state Republican convention, and Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, lost the Republican nomination but ended up retaining her Senate seat as a write-in candidate. In 2012, just one incumbent Republican, Sen. Richard Lugar, lost a primary — in Indiana, to Richard Mourdock, who ended up losing in the general election…

What’s more significant is the fact that the Tea Party message on the size and scope of government is something that continues to carry a lot of weight, which is something that can get lost in the rush to brand candidates as being part of the Tea Party or from the establishment.

Because the Tea Party has now been around for a half a decade, non-incumbent Senators seeking higher office know that to be competitive in Republican primaries, they have to build up a record that can pass muster, and they’ve had opportunities to do so. That’s how you end up with candidates such as North Carolina House Speaker Thom Tillis, whose victory in the Senate primary was branded as win for the establishment even though as speaker, he fought to block Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion.

Yeah, the party’s shifted right overall, which is a nice consolation prize to keep in mind tonight. And there may still be successful tea-party challenges to incumbents in years to come. The lesson of the last two cycles, I think, isn’t “you can’t win” but more “it’ll take a lot.” Nothing against Bevin, who’s an impressive guy, but to contend against a heavyweight like McConnell, you needed a challenger of Ted Cruz’s intellect and charisma, someone who might plausibly catch fire nationally and turn his race into a conservative cause celebre. And even that might not have done it: Dislodging the would-be majority leader, who can deliver all sorts of goodies to Kentucky if he’s returned to the Senate, would be a high bar even for Cruz. The hard fact of the matter is that an incumbent who takes the prospect of a primary challenge seriously, prepares early, fundraises vigorously, and runs hard in the primary is incredibly difficult to beat, even without McConnell’s seniority. Just look at how easy Grahamnesty has it in a very red state. I want to believe a conservative in Arizona will mount a serious threat to McCain in 2016. But I don’t. Maverick won’t get caught napping like Bob Bennett and Dick Lugar.

Kentucky’s not the only game in town, though. The Georgia Senate primary is also happening, with David Perdue a lock to secure one of the two spots in the runoff. The suspense is over who gets the other — Jack Kingston or Karen Handel, who are within three points of each other in the last three polls. Oregon is also voting tonight, with Monica Wehby the favorite in a race that’s in flux since the nasty accusations about stalking and a messy divorce this week. She led her opponent in the only poll taken and a huge chunk of Oregonians vote early, so it may be the attacks came too late to affect the primary. You can follow results for all races at RCP or, if you’re interested only in the competitive ones, at Ace’s decision desk. The polls close at 7 p.m. ET in Georgia and Kentucky (although some returns are already in since half the state is in a different time zone) and at 11 p.m. in Oregon. While we wait, via the Right Scoop, here’s Mark Levin wondering whether the time has come to send a message to RINOs who use dirty tricks in the primary by sitting out a general election. He’s not condoning the idea, he says, but it’s crossed his mind. Matt Bevin said earlier today of McConnell “My job is to beat him. And if we don’t, I don’t know how he wins in November when he’s divided his own party as much as he has.” Hmmmm.


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Erick Erickson ✔ @EWErickson
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1:21 PM – 20 May 2014

Nope.

kcewa on May 20, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Looks like one more wakes up.

He added: “I have been disheartened by how generally apathetic people really, truly are about taking ownership in their role in the political process. It wasn’t a surprise, but I’ve just been disheartened by how true it really is.”…

We’re getting what we deserve.

DFCtomm on May 20, 2014 at 6:27 PM

McConnell is NOT returning to the Senate whether he wins or loses tonight. If Bevin doesn’t stop him, Grimes will.

And I, for one, will NOT shed any tears for him.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:28 PM

I gave up reading Allah’s victory speech.

DanMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Nope.

kcewa on May 20, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Erick Erickson is a tool.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Just returned from voting. Love seeing those nice Ladies at the station. They even offered to let me eat one of the hotdog and fry plates that had been delivered. Yes they know I am with the party of R. A Conservative. I have a history with them. Yes I know they are all with 0. I passed on the hotdog. Looked good though. ; )

Bmore on May 20, 2014 at 6:37 PM

McConnell is NOT returning to the Senate whether he wins or loses tonight. If Bevin doesn’t stop him, Grimes will.

And I, for one, will NOT shed any tears for him.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:28 PM

What kind of American would care about getting rid of Majority leader Harry Reid setting the agenda and Obama’s packing of the courts when one can rage on the fake and Democrat engineered estalishment vs Tea Party dichotomy.

I’ll gladly take McConnell’s proven record as an imperfect conservative (pardon the redundancy), especially after the terrific job he’s done leading the minority caucus, over yet another liberal senator from a red state.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM

McConnell should win easily tonight, and will win the general.

The Kingston-Handel battle will be very interesting. That’s really the only thing that’ll be somewhat suspenseful.

Wehby will win tonight, and hopefully these dirty tricks by the Dems will backfire.

GOPRanknFile on May 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Unseating the majority leader of the senate in the Primaries . . . has that ever even happened in the history of the USA?

Serious question.

Skipity on May 20, 2014 at 6:39 PM

“That tea partier, Mitch McConnell, will probably win his primary” – Debbie Was-A-Man Schultz.

TarheelBen on May 20, 2014 at 6:39 PM

It has always been the case that third parties in this country are swallowed up by the established giants. Overall, the Tea Party has pulled the Republican party back from the brink of becoming democrat lite on economic policy. Although it shocks me how often we still see Republicans essentially try to give up on massively modifying Obamacare.

Conservatives need to stop pushing political children such as R Paul and M Rubio as presidential candidates. They can’t seem to put together two weeks without putting alternating feet into their mouths. The party also needs to forget about running anyone named Bush for president in 2016. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

In short, draft Scott Walker.

doufree on May 20, 2014 at 6:41 PM

“That tea partier, Mitch McConnell, will probably win his primary” – Debbie Was-A-Man Schultz.

TarheelBen on May 20, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Crazy talk until you realize these incumbents put out campaign ads portraying themselves as hardcore TEA Partiers(without using the name) so she’s only saying what these guys are advertising. Of course it is funny to us because we know Mitch McConnell is a big government RINO.

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM

He’s not condoning the idea, he says, but it’s crossed his mind.

Reminds me of the old Chris Rock joke about O.J. – “I’m not saying he should have killed her, but I understand.”

Mark Levin would have a bigger audience if he ever got cured of his chronic butthurt. He’s a very smart man, but he’s so engrossed in artificial divisions among conservatives that he can’t keep his own preferences straight any more. As it stands, I can barely listen to him anymore. Even his scholarly work on conservative principles gets drowned out by his constant complaining about nebulous establishment figures.

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM

what’s with the violent metaphors for an incumbent senator getting under 70% in a primary? crush? destroy? really?

commodore on May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Erick Erickson ✔ @EWErickson
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1:21 PM – 20 May 2014

That is soooooo not happening.

If I contribute, it will be directly to candidates who are closer to Conservative principles than McConnell or to the SCF.

It won’t go to McConnell or the RNC that’s for certain.

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM

I’ll take a Senate majority without Mitchie The Chicken. The scumbag had a chance to defund barrytax last year and didn’t.

conservative hispanic on May 20, 2014 at 6:48 PM

We all know what is happening in KY, but whose going out on a limb to make a prediction in MS?

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 6:49 PM

So, the damn dam will get built…?

d1carter on May 20, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Mitch McConnell relief

Chuck Ef on May 20, 2014 at 6:50 PM

He added: “I have been disheartened by how generally apathetic people really, truly are about taking ownership in their role in the political process. It wasn’t a surprise, but I’ve just been disheartened by how true it really is.”…

Yup. Not until it touches you personally. And it’s gonna.

Cleombrotus on May 20, 2014 at 6:50 PM

The Kingston-Handel battle will be very interesting. That’s really the only thing that’ll be somewhat suspenseful.

GOPRanknFile on May 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM

We have a couple of interesting races here in PA. Chelsea Clinton’s mother-in-law, Marjorie Medzinvksy, is running in the Dem primary in the 13th district. MM is one of four candidates, and we’ll see if Bill Clinton campaigning for her helped at all.

The 13th congressional seat is being vacated by Allyson Schwartz, who was supposed to be a shoe-in for the Dem nomination for governor, but got upstaged by a self-funded millionaire, Tom Wolf, who spent a lot of money on ads all through the spring. Wolf is ahead of Schwartz and two other Dems in the polls.

Wolf has been touting what a socially responsible PA business owner he is, but…it is now coming out that his company is incorprated in Delaware (lower taxes and business-friendly corporate law). Don’t write off GOP governor Tom Corbett yet.

Wethal on May 20, 2014 at 6:52 PM

If McConnell gets 75% I would say that qualifies as a beat down.

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Nothing against Bevin, who’s an impressive guy, but to contend against a heavyweight like McConnell, you needed a challenger of Ted Cruz’s intellect and charisma, someone who might plausibly catch fire nationally and turn his race into a conservative cause celebre

Good point. The fact is, it is really, really tough to defeat incumbents, particularly in a state wide race.

Still hopeful for McDaniel though.

cat_owner on May 20, 2014 at 6:52 PM

joana on May 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Pray tell, in what way will a McConnell-led Senate differ from a Reid-led Senate on the following:

1. Amnesty
2. Spending
3. Judges and other presidential nominees

I want honest answers.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:52 PM

My job is to beat him. And if we don’t, I don’t know how he wins in November when he’s divided his own party as much as he has.”

Yeah McConnell is the one dividing the party by committing the unforgivable sin of not laying down and taking it up the butt when the tea party challenged him. I hope God forgives him on judgment day.

But if he loses to grime because people are still bitter in November, I look forward to the avalanche of whining that will be coming our way because it will of course be McConnell’s fault too. by not losing to Bevin, who was so clearly going to win by a landslide against grime, McConnell lost the GOP the seat.

I am going go ahead and start blaming McConnell for everything that is going to go wrong between now and 2016 that’s not going to be blamed on Obama.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM

We all know what is happening in KY, but whose going out on a limb to make a prediction in MS?

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Boss Hawg and his Senator will probably win MS…there many people who received favors that are being called. There are to many people who need their cash cow. It has become very interesting though. Maybe Thad will visit MS occasionally, who knows?

d1carter on May 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM

You mean like how Bill Bolling and the GOP Establishment were still bitter after losing in the Virginia primary to Cuccinelli? Heck, they even “lent” some of their staff to McAuliffe.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM

but…it is now coming out that his company is incorprated in Delaware (lower taxes and business-friendly corporate law).

Wethal on May 20, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Just like 99.9% of businesses larger than a mom-and-pop.

I really hope there’s more than this to hit him with. In an ideal world, Corbett would have seen the writing on the wall after he so badly fumbled Penn State and anointed a Republican to replace him.

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Unseating the majority leader of the senate in the Primaries . . . has that ever even happened in the history of the USA?

Serious question.

Skipity on May 20, 2014 at 6:39 PM

McConnell is the minority leader, but in any case, the answer is no. Only four Senate leaders lost re-election bids, all in general elections: James E. Watson (R-IN) in 1932, Scott W. Lucas (D-IL) in 1950, Ernest McFarland (D-AZ) in 1952 and Tom Daschle (D-ND) in 2004.

Interesting factoid: all the winners of those races were undefeated for the rest of their Senatorial career (Thune still is). Another reason why Grimes can’t win this seat!

joana on May 20, 2014 at 6:57 PM

I am going go ahead and start blaming McConnell for everything that is going to go wrong between now and 2016 that’s not going to be blamed on Obama.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Obama deserves some blame for current state of the nation, no? Or are you an Obama fan? On HA it’s hard to tell who is who.

BoxHead1 on May 20, 2014 at 6:59 PM

the only person worse than mark levin is michael savage. it’s a race to see who thinks of their accomplishments as more worthy of our esteem. what i wouldn’t give for a radio station with beck, rush and dennis miller to get me through the workday…

dbilly76 on May 20, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Pray tell, in what way will a McConnell-led Senate differ from a Reid-led Senate on the following:

1. Amnesty
2. Spending
3. Judges and other presidential nominees

I want honest answers.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:52 PM

If you have to ask this, you know nothing about how the federal government legislative and judicial appointment processes work. Perhaps you should check the differences in voting record between Reid and McConnell, that’s a pretty good predictor.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 7:00 PM

current state of the nation the current sorry state of a divided nation.

BoxHead1 on May 20, 2014 at 7:00 PM

You mean like how Bill Bolling and the GOP Establishment were still bitter after losing in the Virginia primary to Cuccinelli? Heck, they even “lent” some of their staff to McAuliffe.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Bitterness does that. It loses you winnable seat. What happened in VA was a travesty. And I can see the possibility of a repeat in KY. McConnell barely won the last election and with all the Baby McWhinies running around saying they won’t vote for him, I would consider it a miracle if he wins this time.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 7:01 PM

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM

That’s okay, EE is rich, he can afford to donate hundreds of dollars to Matt Bevin and then when Bevin loses ( which he is unfortunately) he’ll donate several hundred to McConnell.

I on the other hand can’t afford to donate to candidates I do like, let alone those I don’t

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 7:02 PM

I am going go ahead and start blaming McConnell for everything that is going to go wrong between now and 2016 that’s not going to be blamed on Obama.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM

You’re going to be very bored.

portlandon on May 20, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Another reason why Grimes can’t win this seat!

joana on May 20, 2014 at 6:57 PM

We shall see, won’t we? Grab your popcorn… it will get reaaallly interesting as the Democrats begin to drive McConnell’s negatives down further in a way Bevin couldn’t.

I sure hope McConnell has a lot of illegals ready to “vote” for him in appreciation for the amnesty he and his Chamber of Commerce buddies will deliver to them. Because his base will sure not show up. We will be busy trying to “uncrush” ourselves.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:03 PM

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Jim Gerlach or Pat Meehan would’ve been excellent candidates, Corbett is going to lose.

Hopefully he is the only one and we somehow win in other states.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 7:05 PM

7:04pm and Fox’s On The Record has already called it for McConnell.

CoffeeLover on May 20, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Just like 99.9% of businesses larger than a mom-and-pop.

Oh, yes, but the average voter doesn’t understand that. (I went to law school in Pa, and we studied the DE Code in Corps.) Wolf still has to explain why he wants to tax the rich, as well as shale drilling, while ducking taxes in DE.

I really hope there’s more than this to hit him with. In an ideal world, Corbett would have seen the writing on the wall after he so badly fumbled Penn State and anointed a Republican to replace him.

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM

The Dem “fumbled Penn State” meme is now failing, thanks to Dem AG Kathleen Kane. Corbett’s response so far has been when you’re going after someone like Paterno and Sandusky, you go verrry carefully, and make sure you’ve got plenty of credible evidence. (sad that it is so with public figures, but there you are.)

Kane herself blew her credibility by dumping a big AG investigation after she took office. There were hundreds of hours of audiotape of four Philly Dems taking bribes. Since all were minorities, she claimed it was raaacist. It turned out the undercover guy went after GOP and Dems, but the Dems were the only ones who bit. And the black Philly DA shot back that he knew what real raaacism was, and this wasn’t it.

So Corbett can paint Kane as a partisna hack (which she is.)

Wethal on May 20, 2014 at 7:07 PM

I passed on the hotdog. Looked good though. ; )

Bmore on May 20, 2014 at 6:37 PM

You can eat the hot dog and fries; just don’t drink the koolaid.

davidk on May 20, 2014 at 7:08 PM

*clink* all around

we’re sure going to need it…

cmsinaz on May 20, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Obama deserves some blame for current state of the nation, no? Or are you an Obama fan? On HA it’s hard to tell who is who.

BoxHead1 on May 20, 2014 at 6:59 PM

I am not a fan of Obama, but I don’t hate him either. I am open to give him credit when he deserves it, and scold him when I think he merits it. Unlike some people out there who can’t find one good thing to say about him even if he is caught in tape walking on water, turning water to wine and feeding the poor.

Call me a fair and balanced Obama observer.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM

tea party has lost some battles but have already won the war…
-rick klein with greta

cmsinaz on May 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM

McConnell is NOT returning to the Senate whether he wins or loses tonight. If Bevin doesn’t stop him, Grimes will.

And I, for one, will NOT shed any tears for him.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 6:28 PM

I have no idea who is going to win in Nov. But like you if the dhimmicRAT wins I’ll shed no tears.

davidk on May 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Call me a fair and balanced Obama observer.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Best laugh I’ve had all day.

davidk on May 20, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Can the Chamber of Commerce win the mid terms…?

d1carter on May 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM

The Tea Party is essentially a brand new party beginning in 2009. It’s five years old. It’s easy for the left marginalize us, we’re toddlers. But what we should be doing is concentrating on local elections. You can’t expect a green candidate to have the wherewithal to take on a multi-term US Senator and win. Eventually the establishment will age and die. Eventually they’ll have to face seasoned politicians if they’ve come up through the local ranks.

BKeyser on May 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Anybody up for a little McConnelling?

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Matt Bevin sounded pretty upbeat this morning when Glen Beck interviewed him on his radio show. My fingers are still crossed for a good showing when the votes are counted tonight.

Win or lose, Matt Bevin has done a big service for his country and all of us, just by running a campaign that forced entrenched politicians to pay closer attention to their constituents.

A BIG Thank You to Matt Bevin and his campaign team who have been working so hard during this election season!

And Matt Bevin is right about this:

He added: “I have been disheartened by how generally apathetic people really, truly are about taking ownership in their role in the political process. It wasn’t a surprise, but I’ve just been disheartened by how true it really is.”…

We should all ask ourselves how much more we can do to help elect good leaders for our country in the 2014 elections.

wren on May 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM

It sounds like the tea party is over. I’m done with the GOP, this time for good. I used to call myself a Republican when Reagan was president but became an independent under the CIA’s Bush dynasty regime. They are the American variation of Putin. But when the tea party first got started I started to feel like I belonged in the Republican Party again, but then immediately after the ’10 election, during the lame duck, the GOP stabbed the tea party right off the bat, and have continued to do so ever since. I didn’t leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me, first with the Bush dynasty and then again after they betrayed the tea party immediately following the ’10 election. That’s twice. I will never vote Republican again.

It’s time to follow the UK’s example and start USIP. America needs it’s own Nigel Farage. A champion of freedom and liberty, free markets and our right to self preservation as a sovereign nation.

FloatingRock on May 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM

joana on May 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Well the way Joana goes, so goes the nation..

Oops no, Romney lost.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Yeah, the party’s shifted right overall, which is a nice consolation prize to keep in mind tonight.

Where has it it shifted to the right?
It has not shifted to the right on anything that I can tell.
It is hell bent on passing amnesty, turning the nation immediately so far left that conservatives will not win national office for several generations.
You cannot add tens of millions of new socialists to the nations voter rolls and claim to be a conservative. Plain and simple.

astonerii on May 20, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Call me a fair and balanced Obama observer.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Congratulations. You get the Bill O’Reilly award for confused and uninformed commentary on who Barack Obama is politically.

TarheelBen on May 20, 2014 at 7:15 PM

So Corbett can paint Kane as a partisna hack (which she is.)

Wethal on May 20, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Fair enough, but he’s not running against Kathleen Kane. He’s running against Tom Wolf, who is completely disconnected from the Penn State scandal, and if his team is even slightly competent he’ll be talking about it all the way to November.

If you don’t like that, maybe you can come north to New York, where our GOP bench is so thin that state party officials went on bended knee to Donald frigging Trump to beg him to get in the governor’s race, and is again staring at a clean statewide blowout.

Nevada got rid of a terrible Republican governor in 2010 by primarying him out with someone much better. Would it have been so hard for Pennsylvania to do the same?

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 7:15 PM

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Language warning,

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Unlike some people out there who can’t find one good thing to say about him even if he is caught in tape walking on water, turning water to wine and feeding the poor.

Call me a fair and balanced Obama observer.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM

You’ve seen that tape or do you just believe? Or did Obama answer you prayers and save you? :)

You are an Obama fan rooting for Mconnel and rooting against the TEA party. It’s a teachable moment.

BoxHead1 on May 20, 2014 at 7:15 PM

I am not a fan of Obama, but I don’t hate him either. I am open to give him credit when he deserves it, and scold him when I think he merits it. Unlike some people out there who can’t find one good thing to say about him even if he is caught in tape walking on water, turning water to wine and feeding the poor.

Call me a fair and balanced Obama observer.

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Since you are so “fair and balanced”- this should be easy:

Name some of his failures and his accomplishments.. five each.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 7:16 PM

wren on May 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Yeah, it’s already been called for McConnell.

GOPRanknFile on May 20, 2014 at 7:18 PM

You are an Obama fan rooting for Mconnel and rooting against the TEA party. It’s a teachable moment.

BoxHead1 on May 20, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Yep, give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.

The incestuous relationship between Democrats and Big Govt Republicans demands that they root for each other against small govt. conservatives/tea partiers.

Because, face it, a McConnell vs Grimes face-off is a WIN-WIN for them. Both are Obama tools.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Erick Erickson ✔ @EWErickson
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Nope.

kcewa on May 20, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Erick Erickson is an establishment toadie.

Cheese Wheel on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

ONce again the far right shows it really wants the destruction of America… for principles sake.

Figures. The far left and far right are all the same… they just want destruction. They never have anything of value to add to any conversation.

petunia on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Based on Obama’s criteria for success, he has been successful.

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

petunia on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Yes, because everyone knows that it is the moderates who put boots on the ground and fight to preserve this nation /

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:21 PM

petunia on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Go TruCon Brigade!!!

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Because, face it, a McConnell vs Grimes face-off is a WIN-WIN for them. Both are Obama tools.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

I wonder. Amnesty has me wondering. I does seem cozy these days at the top. One big very ugly Roman orgy.

BoxHead1 on May 20, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Congratulations. You get the Bill O’Reilly award for confused and uninformed commentary on who Barack Obama is politically.

TarheelBen on May 20, 2014 at 7:15 PM

REALLY! I really was not expecting an award today. I am soooo excited! Does it come with cash prize as well? Do I get to give a speech? What should I wear? Does this award make my butt look big?

So many questions. But thank you for my award. Muchos gracias! TT

coolrepublica on May 20, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Now that Mitch has won his primary he can get busy punching the Conservatives and TEA Party folks out of the Republican tent and the illegals and moderate Democrats will carry the GOPe to victory!

RJL on May 20, 2014 at 7:22 PM

ONce again the far right shows it really wants the destruction of America… for principles sake.
 
petunia on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

 
I like the way you accidentally phrased that.

rogerb on May 20, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Erick Erickson is an establishment toadie.

Cheese Wheel on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

I’ve seen some cognitive dissonance in my day, but that doesn’t even pass the laugh test.

Erick Erickson, an establishment tool? When he’s screaming “conspiracy” over the McDaniel/Clayton Kelly dustup and supported Bevin all the way to today?

Is your ideology so poisonous that you won’t accept defeat with any kind of grace whatsoever, and you won’t suffer anyone else to do so either?

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 7:23 PM

It sounds like the tea party is over. I’m done with the GOP, this time for good.

FloatingRock on May 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM

For realsies this time? You know if you leave, you can’t threaten to leave again :P

You can found the US’s USIP. You don’t have to wait around for someone else do it. Do it!

thebrokenrattle on May 20, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Figures. The far left and far right are all the same… they just want destruction. They never have anything of value to add to any conversation.

petunia on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Figures. The middle left (Dem Establishment) and middle right (GOP Establishment) are the same… they just want to enrich themselves off the backs of hardworking Americans. They never have anything of value, period!

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:23 PM

RJL on May 20, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Yeah, it will be interesting to see if they can pull that one off.

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Some of these people have so much money and power accumulated it’s very difficult to get rid of them. They own and are owned by too many interests.

crankyoldlady on May 20, 2014 at 7:24 PM

We shall see, won’t we? Grab your popcorn… it will get reaaallly interesting as the Democrats begin to drive McConnell’s negatives down further in a way Bevin couldn’t.

I sure hope McConnell has a lot of illegals ready to “vote” for him in appreciation for the amnesty he and his Chamber of Commerce buddies will deliver to them. Because his base will sure not show up. We will be busy trying to “uncrush” ourselves.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:03 PM

It’s absolutely clear to me that anyone who believes Grimes is to the right of McConnell on immigration, or that having Grimes in the Senate instead of McConnell is more likely to prevent an amnesty, needs medical help more than political discussions.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 7:24 PM

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed to be a Kentuckian.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:25 PM

GOPRanknFile on May 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM

You are most likely correct regarding Wehby in Oregon.

I didn’t vote for her … I voted for the conservative … Mark Callahan.

In the general, I will vote R … anyone but Merkley.

ORrighty on May 20, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Is your ideology so poisonous that you won’t accept defeat with any kind of grace whatsoever, and you won’t suffer anyone else to do so either?

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 7:23 PM

You mean like how Charlie Crist, Mike Castle, and Bill Bolling accepted defeat with grace?

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:25 PM

It’s absolutely clear to me that anyone who believes Grimes is to the right of McConnell on immigration, or that having Grimes in the Senate instead of McConnell is more likely to prevent an amnesty, needs medical help more than political discussions.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 7:24 PM

The problem is she isn’t to the LEFT of McConnell on amnesty.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Currently my plan is to simply not vote at all for Senate in November. Because UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES am I voting McConnell.

If they ramrod Amnesty through, I WILL VOTE STRAIGHT DEMOCRAT IN NOVEMBER. Because, at that point, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:27 PM

It’s absolutely clear to me that anyone who believes Grimes is to the right of McConnell on immigration, or that having Grimes in the Senate instead of McConnell is more likely to prevent an amnesty, needs medical help more than political discussions.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 7:24 PM

I asked you a simple question, which you dodged.

McConnell will prevent amnesty???? Are you for real?

I am pretty sure he will be meeting with the Chamber of Commerce tomorrow to strategize how they will pass amnesty. After all, his primary is over.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:28 PM

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Kane will see to it that any AG “review” of Penn State comes out at the opportune time for Wolf this fall. And Wolf will no doubt, surprise, surprise, have ads ready to run the next day on the issue. Fast Eddy Rendell will immediately pop up on all the local TV shows, too, although he’s getting to be a bit of a has-been like Bubba. It will be well-coordinated by the Dems, but the GOP know it.

Regrettably, the PA GOP is still RINO-dominated. The House districts and local elections are easier than state-wide. As BKeyser notes above, it take a while to build a bench of possible ready-for-prime-time Tea Partiers. And people like Toomey, who appears to have gun-grabbing tendencise, can disappoint.

Wethal on May 20, 2014 at 7:28 PM

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Erick’s purpose is to try to rally the troops with the charge of “Conservative in the primary; Republican in the General”.

Except a lot of Conservatives are at that point where this fits into the definition of insanity, and they just don’t have the confidence in the Republican party to follow this precept in the way that they might have in the past.

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Don’t like McConnell.

terryannonline on May 20, 2014 at 7:29 PM

The problem is she isn’t to the LEFT of McConnell on amnesty.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Yep, you can’t be any wetter than wet, or more naked than naked.. And if you support amnesty there is no more than amnesty..

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM

The problem is she isn’t to the LEFT of McConnell on amnesty.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

There isn’t a single Democrat in the Senate that is to the right of McConnell on ANYTHING.

Additionally, good luck stopping amnesty while keeping Obama and Reid controlling the agenda in the Senate.

There’s only one way of getting immigration reform without amnesty and not even that one is a sure thing: get the Senate majority for the next two years to stall it and shoot for the trifecta in 2016.

Those who don’t understand this don’t understand anything.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Yep, you can’t be any wetter than wet, or more naked than naked.. And if you support amnesty there is no more than amnesty..

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Operation “SET IT ON FIRE” is about to begin.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Trust me, if the GOP/Chamber of Commerce succeed in ramming through amnesty and nominating another spineless wussie as GOP Presidential candidate, we will all be singing “What difference does it make” in 2016 as we pull the lever for Hillary Clinton.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Again, where was this urge to find a candidate to replace the incumbent in South Carolina??? So much wasted time and energy on Kentucky when McConnell is not even the worst.

Xanatos90 on May 20, 2014 at 7:32 PM

You mean like how Charlie Crist, Mike Castle, and Bill Bolling accepted defeat with grace?

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:25 PM

I’m not talking to politicians. I’m talking to you. The normal, everyday, self-proclaimed adherent to conservative ideals. I could give less than a damn about Bolling, Castle, and Crist, all of whom are nonentities.

Erick Erickson, a man with whom I do not see eye to eye, just put his personal rancor aside to accomplish the long-term goal by helping McConnell win. And for that people like you are calling him an establishment hack. Hence my question. Is your ideology so poisonous that you won’t allow this? Is Erickson now a heretic because he wants to defeat Democrats instead of nurturing a childish grudge?

For all your talk about conservatism, you just said that you’d be happy if Grimes won the seat – a fanatically pro-abortion Democrat. Maybe the inquisitors should be looking at your support of baby-killing politicians and pass some judgment.

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 7:32 PM

There isn’t a single Democrat in the Senate that is to the right of McConnell on ANYTHING.

Additionally, good luck stopping amnesty while keeping Obama and Reid controlling the agenda in the Senate.

There’s only one way of getting immigration reform without amnesty and not even that one is a sure thing: get the Senate majority for the next two years to stall it and shoot for the trifecta in 2016.

Those who don’t understand this don’t understand anything.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Amnesty has to become the single issue. With amnesty there IS NO GOING BACK. With 50 million new Mexican voters (which is what will come with anchorbabies and chain migration) conservatives will NEVER HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF EVER WINNING POWER AGAIN.

McConnell wants amnesty. Boner wants amnesty. Cantor wants amnesty. The whole damn Republican ESTABLISHMENT wants amnesty.

If amnesty passes you are DOOMING the United States to total collapse and bloody revolution WITHIN TWO DECADES.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

There’s only one way of getting immigration reform without amnesty and not even that one is a sure thing: get the Senate majority for the next two years to stall it and shoot for the trifecta in 2016.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM

It won’t happen that way even under the circumstances you’ve stated. The CoC wants cheap labor, and the CoC is now basically the funding the arm of the Republican party, so the CoC will get what it wants.

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Because, face it, a McConnell vs Grimes face-off is a WIN-WIN for them. Both are Obama tools.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Yep, the American political system is rigged so that no matter who you vote for, DC and their cronies win and the American people lose.

FloatingRock on May 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Yep. “He that is down needs fear no fall…” (John Bunyan).

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Don’t like McConnell.

terryannonline on May 20, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Neither do I, but think of how nice it would be if Harry Reid no longer control the Senate calendar and no longer had anytime access to the Senate floor for his Koch dementia.

Wethal on May 20, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Trust me, if the GOP/Chamber of Commerce succeed in ramming through amnesty and nominating another spineless wussie as GOP Presidential candidate, we will all be singing “What difference does it make” in 2016 as we pull the lever for Hillary Clinton.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Pull the lever for Hildabeast Clinton, then go home and clean our rifles for what is to come.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Hoorrayy for the status quo!!

Meople on May 20, 2014 at 7:36 PM

I on the other hand can’t afford to donate to candidates I do like, let alone those I don’t

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 7:02 PM

There are lots of ways to help good candidates that don’t require any money at all

An articulate and informed volunteer who can convince people to vote for a candidate is worth their weight in gold!

And helping to spread the word about good candidates online via blogs, comments, and social media is a cost effective way to increase name recognition and to help recruit other supporters.

Volunteering to help out in a campaign office can provide much needed support to keep campaigns running smoothly.

Talking to your friends and family about a good candidate can help to earn votes from people who trust your opinion.

Tons of work to be done on any campaign. Lots of helping hands are needed to lighten the load.

wren on May 20, 2014 at 7:36 PM

It won’t happen that way even under the circumstances you’ve stated. The CoC wants cheap labor, and the CoC is now basically the funding the arm of the Republican party, so the CoC will get what it wants.

lineholder on May 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

The CoC wants immigration reform, but they couldn’t care less about awarding citizenship to illegals.

And if you were able to produce any sort of sustained reasoning, you would understand that’s exactly WHY it’s so important for the GOP to control the agenda.

joana on May 20, 2014 at 7:36 PM

If I were Matt Bevin, I’d go third party or endorse the Democrat. Turtle McConnell doesn’t deserve his support.

Myron Falwell on May 20, 2014 at 7:37 PM

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