Hot Air Primary survey: The Follow Up

posted at 8:01 am on May 20, 2014 by Patrick Ishmael

It’s a quick sequel, but given that many readers wanted additional candidate options last time — and some of those candidates have been in the news — an encore seemed in order. Along with the first choice question, I’ve added “second choice” and “acceptable alternative” questions. I round out the survey with Obamacare questions.

Have at it, and thanks!

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Today we get to watch as Americans vote Mitch McConnell back to the Senate and then wonder why things continue to get worse.

Maybe he should have made the list.

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM

2. I’d put Palin’s economic record up against Perry’s any day.

miConsevative on May 20, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Bring it….and those stats would be how old?

This is the problem with Palinistas. What will you do if she doesn’t run?

Heard a radio ad yesterday that said “Dr. Ben Carson is the only person who can save the USA….sign the petition now…”

Enough with expecting political messiahs….That’s how liberals think.

Have the primary and argue record and policy of the candidates…not personalities.

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 11:06 AM

And just where is the Sarah Palin option?

Lucky Pierre on May 20, 2014 at 8:35 AM

…we are all members of a Cult…and that would make this…a religious thread or something?

KOOLAID2 on May 20, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Have the primary and argue record and policy of the candidates…not personalities.

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Funny you mention the need to discuss record and policy – not personalities – in the same comment you make personals attacks on anyone who supports Palin.

Your only arguments are name calling, veiled insults and spouting a few talking points with no depth of thought – to quote your own words, “that’s how liberals think”.

miConsevative on May 20, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Well I have to disagree with ya there.

I’m a native Texan…so I like Cruz and I’ll say that upfront.

Cruz was elected to this office and it’s his first elective position…and while that is an accomplishment it is not enough for this Texan.

Cruz is young yet…so maybe more time in office?

Gov. Perry is the only candidate who speaks realistically about the immigration problemo through experience…and he started fighting Bush Jr. over federal poaching of Texas border agents.

Gov. Perry said we need a 21st century Monroe Doctrine applied to the northern hemisphere…and he also said our border security would probably extend to Guatemala.

That is realistic….because that is coming courtesy of the cartels which are doing business with terrorists.

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM

I think your position on Cruz’s commitment being solely based on rhetoric, withstanding his actions over Obamacare, is a fair assessment.

Perry would make a fine president and I would actively campaign and vote for him in the general, however I believe we are at a point where I am willing to take more of a risk for a higher payoff with Cruz.

From an electoral standpoint, I think the issue of JOBS is spot on, but it is only as good as the guy selling it and I think for good or bad that Perry lacks the salesmanship of electoral politics. I hate to say it because it doesn’t affect my vote, but it does to LIVs. Cruz can leverage the position of Texas economic success AND also take on any media hack trying to change the narrative. I cannot think of any politician with more ability to parlay and refocus the conversation when engaging than Ted Cruz. His debate skills are that good and should not be discounted.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

I’m trying to look at it with clear eyes. The best predictor of how someone will act in the future is how they have acted in the past. Among the relevant freshman Senators, with Cruz or Paul, it’s too much of a blank slate (Rubio has a bit of a better track record). They are all rhetoric. BHO has shown how bad that translates into poor governance. If BHO were a republican, the press would be bludgeoning him. I don’t want to risk the country like that.

Deafdog on May 20, 2014 at 10:51 AM

DeafDog, my previous post to “workingclass artist” was supposed to be a reply to you as well.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Perry/Walker all the way for me.

Jack_Burton on May 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Perry/Walker all the way for me.

Jack_Burton on May 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

I’d vote for that ticket in a heartbeat.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 20, 2014 at 11:42 AM

miConsevative on May 20, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Palin’s on my short list-that said…she served less than one term.
Perry’s been in office 3 terms.
No comparison.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Bring it….and those stats would be how old?This is the problem with Palinistas. What will you do if she doesn’t run?Heard a radio ad yesterday that said “Dr. Ben Carson is the only person who can save the USA….sign the petition now…”Enough with expecting political messiahs….That’s how liberals think.Have the primary and argue record and policy of the candidates…not personalities.workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 11:06 AM

How old were Reagan’s when he ran? Compared to oboobi and Killary, Sarah had years of ecexutive experience and outshines them, but go ahead and anklebite if you must.

I’d feel safe with Cruz based on past performances in other offices and by the convictions he wears on his sleeves more so than Marco from which there were plenty of smoke back when he was in statehouse politics.

AH_C on May 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Sarah Palin is not included again??!

She is the most influential leader in the Republican party today. Without even a mention, I cannot take this poll seriously.

I opt to not play the ‘let’s pretend Sarah’s irrelevant game’ so I’m not going to participate.

I notice, too, the failure to bring a headline article on Sarah which has garnered over 300 posts to Top Picks. Almost daily I observe many lesser posts being moved for further attention and focus. HA’s efforts to marginalize Sarah Palin aren’t working.

Opinionator on May 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM

I renew my request previously made that the prior “other” category which took 5th place be revealed. I make the same for this poll. I firmly believe that a large portion of those other votes are for Mrs. Palin.

The Commentator on May 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Opinionator

You can just write in her name in the Other category, which is what I have done.

The Commentator on May 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM

backwoods conservative on May 20, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Something for your consideration.

Bmore on May 20, 2014 at 11:58 AM

The Commentator on May 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM

I did that the last time. Not playing the game again. It’s not a serious poll and is designed to marginalize Sarah.

Opinionator on May 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Opinionator on May 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Op, nice to see you topside. How are you?

Bmore on May 20, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Funny you mention the need to discuss record and policy – not personalities – in the same comment you make personals attacks on anyone who supports Palin.

Your only arguments are name calling, veiled insults and spouting a few talking points with no depth of thought – to quote your own words, “that’s how liberals think”.

miConsevative on May 20, 2014 at 11:19 AM

I apologize.

My argument was based on Palin’s biggest political liability which is an unfinished term in office.

*shrug*

I don’t profess to know any of these candidates as people so I’m not offended personally by criticism of any of them and my preference is for Gov. Oops! because I live in Texas and we have jobs here.

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Op, nice to see you topside. How are you?

Bmore on May 20, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Thx – I miss you. Holding steady. How are you??

Opinionator on May 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM

No Sarah Palin … again?

C’mon Patrick!

ShainS on May 20, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Opinionator on May 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM

I have been well for the most part. Busy, busy with work. Slowing down now for the Holiday. I will be happy to recharge a wee bit. I miss you as well Op. ; )

Bmore on May 20, 2014 at 12:21 PM

I think your position on Cruz’s commitment being solely based on rhetoric, withstanding his actions over Obamacare, is a fair assessment.

Perry would make a fine president and I would actively campaign and vote for him in the general, however I believe we are at a point where I am willing to take more of a risk for a higher payoff with Cruz.

From an electoral standpoint, I think the issue of JOBS is spot on, but it is only as good as the guy selling it and I think for good or bad that Perry lacks the salesmanship of electoral politics. I hate to say it because it doesn’t affect my vote, but it does to LIVs. Cruz can leverage the position of Texas economic success AND also take on any media hack trying to change the narrative. I cannot think of any politician with more ability to parlay and refocus the conversation when engaging than Ted Cruz. His debate skills are that good and should not be discounted.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Well Cruz would first have to leverage the successful Texas economic record against the Texas Governor who presided over that economic record in the primaries if Perry decided to run.

Cruz sees this problem for himself which is why he’s taking potshots now (posted upthread)…because every time another business moves to Texas or another article is written about the Texas economy or another Perry visit to a failed liberal state, the focus is on Gov. Perry. Don’t think anybody credits either Cornyn or Cruz for that…They credit conservative policies enacted by the legislature and Gov. Perry that create a pro-business climate.

As for media…Perry is obviously working toward being more comfortable in the media spotlight, both locally and nationally.

Both Cruz and Jeb (Bush Inc.) would be competing for Texas donors…and Perry can raise money.

Once Perry leaves office he can devote his energy to full time old school campaigning (retail politics) and fundraising…Both of which he’s good at. During his last gubernatorial race he campaigned in every county in Texas and he likes meeting voters.

“America is the land of second chances” – Gov. Perry

I guess we’ll see what happens.

I hope he runs.

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Opinionator on May 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Here, here! And hear, hear! ;-)

Palin/Cruz 2016!!!

Hi OP (waves).

ShainS on May 20, 2014 at 12:22 PM

given that many readers wanted additional candidate options last time — and some of those candidates have been in the news — an encore seemed in order.

And yet, Palin is not on the list and Rice remains.

What a joke.

Serious question, Patrick: How many of the “other” votes here were for Palin? Is that a data point you’re willing to share? Or, did you “not tabulate that” (wink wink).

And, a sarcastic question: What kind of chutzpah does it take to write “many readers wanted additional options last time” and LEAVE OFF the candidate that (while I haven’t taken the time to count) was probably in the lead or near it in the comments asking where she was in that poll?
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/05/hot-air-survey-presidential-primary-candidate-and-issue-testing/comment-page-1/#comments

(She may well not run, and if polled may not win the poll. However, your comments & methodology simply don’t pass the smell test…)

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Has Palin hinted or even shown the tiniest bit of interest in running? As far as I know, she hasn’t. I suppose she should have been included though, since Romney, Martinez, etc were included.

Jack_Burton on May 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

In short Perry has nothing to lose running for President.

Hope he runs and goes for broke.

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

wanted additional candidate options last time — and some of those candidates have been in the news — an encore seemed in order.

Hm. Like who?

https://www.google.com/search?q=sarah+palin&hl=en&gbv=2&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=RYJ7U4P0Cs2GyASA2IK4DA&ved=0CBsQqAI

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Jack_Burton on May 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

I have no idea if she’ll run or not. But do the words “if I were President,” “waterboard,” and “baptize” ring any bells?

That’s at least as close as Rice, Romney etc. have come…

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Palin/Cruz 2016!!!

Hi OP (waves).

ShainS on May 20, 2014 at 12:22 PM

That’s the ticket !! :) And that is the only ticket which will win – and give us a prayer of recovering our Republic from the debacle the Marxists and RINO’s have wrought.

We miss you too! Y’all (you, Bmore and others) should visit. . .:)

Opinionator on May 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Perry/Walker all the way for me.

Jack_Burton on May 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Perry/Walker all the way for me.

Jack_Burton on May 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

I’d vote for that ticket in a heartbeat.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 20, 2014 at 11:42 AM

That would be an interesting ticket.

One thing it would do is be the anti-elite ticket…That’s fo’ sure

Both men come from humble stock…and worked their way up to the position.
Both men are reformers especially in terms of budgets. (Perry started out as a budget pit bull in the legislature)

They compliment each other in a lot of ways….imho…So do Perry and Jindal…

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Palin concluded her post by slamming journalists.

“With enormous issues to debate before choosing a Presidential/Vice Presidential ticket, have confidence no mean-spirited salaciousness will be pushed by ‘real journalists.’ Nope. This just doesn’t happen at this respectable level of American politics. Just ask me. And Trig,” she said sarcastically.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/05/19/sarah-palin-mocks-media-liberals-over-hillary-clinton-health-questions/

Hi Patrick!

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 12:36 PM

http://therightscoop.com/matt-bevin-mcconnell-pretending-to-be-conservative-to-trick-his-way-back-into-us-senate/

Please Kentucky elect Matt Bevin. Listen to him speak compared with the mealy mouthed turtle aka Mitch McConnell and then tell me how great McConnell is.

I can’t believe there is people on a conservative website like HotAir advocating for Mitch McConnell. Totally mind blown.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Sarah Palin embodies all that is American Exceptionalism, and I cannot for the life of me fathom why the HotAir folks would choose to leave her out of the discussion while including the likes of John Kasich, Scott Walker, Mitt Romney, et al. Palin derangement syndrome lives on HotAir…At any rate, Palin, closely followed by Ted Cruz are the only two that get me motivated to even show up to vote. I mean, to quote the annointed next POTUS, ‘what difference, at this point, does it matter’ anyway? My suspicion is that there will not be an election in 2016 anyway. Dear Leader will have the shackles firmly bolted on us, our weapons in check and our voices silenced…all with the advice and consent of the damned libiots who are too stupid to see what the Dog Eater is really up to. Thank God I am a Texan, and we won’t bother to go along with the rest of y’all…

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM

As Sasse’s momentum built, he earned endorsements from Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz, the Club for Growth and the Senate Conservatives Fund.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/what-ben-sasses-win-in-the-nebraskas-republican-primary-means/370837/

Do endorsements matter? Is that one way some folks build political cred at times?

Oh, & hi Patrick!

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Sarah Palin embodies all that is American Exceptionalism, and I cannot for the life of me fathom why the HotAir folks would choose to leave her out of the discussion while including the likes of John Kasich, Scott Walker, Mitt Romney, et al. Palin derangement syndrome lives on HotAir…At any rate, Palin, closely followed by Ted Cruz are the only two that get me motivated to even show up to vote. I mean, to quote the annointed next POTUS, ‘what difference, at this point, does it matter’ anyway? My suspicion is that there will not be an election in 2016 anyway. Dear Leader will have the shackles firmly bolted on us, our weapons in check and our voices silenced…all with the advice and consent of the damned libiots who are too stupid to see what the Dog Eater is really up to. Thank God I am a Texan, and we won’t bother to go along with the rest of y’all…

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM

What if Cruz decides not to run…which could happen especially if Bush Inc. continues to push Jeb?

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

What if Cruz decides not to run…which could happen especially if Bush Inc. continues to push Jeb?

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

As I said, I really don’t think there will be an election in 2016 anyway. And it is doubtful that Texas will be involved in it anyway. The Texas Nationalist Movement is gaining strength and momentum daily. But, to answer your question, if Cruz doesn’t run, I don’t see anyone else that I would pull the lever for. I really don’t think anyone else has the balls or the tenacity OR the patriotism needed to bring this country back to greatness. Do really think Jeb Bush could? Marco Rubio? Chris Christie?? They are all a bunch of unprincipled wimps, in my view. The only strong and straight conservatives in the mix are Cruz & Palin.

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Very good poll Patrick..It includes a lot of very good and interesting choices..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 1:06 PM

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 1:00 PM

You don’t believe there will be an election in 2016??..Really??..O_O..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 1:08 PM

You don’t believe there will be an election in 2016??..Really??..O_O..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Why is the USDA purchasing military weapons? Why does DHS have billions of rounds of hollow point ammo? Have you seen the tanks and other heavy duty military vehicles being placed into service by the BLM, DHS and USDA? Why do you suppose that is? Do you think it at all possible that our government is preparing for a large scale civilian uprising? If so, do you not think that the Dog Eater would opt to declare martial law, and in the process cancel the election altogether? (In the name of national security, of course). Are you really so naive as to think that this sort of occurrence could not happen in America?? I really suggest that you examine all that is happening around us right now, my friend. And I do not mean to be patronizing. I firmly believe that Barack Obama is evil and he has an agenda that is not in keeping with the foundation of this once great nation. You may laugh and mock me all you wish, DS, but remember…they said the same thing in every other nation that collapsed unto the bonds of totalitarianism. To think that folks here believe it cannot happen to us is the most frightening thing of all. Just sayin’…

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 1:19 PM

In surprise move, Thailand’s army declares martial law after months of unrest

Published May 20, 2014

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/20/in-surprise-move-thailand-army-declares-martial-law-after-months-unrest/

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Trey, bless his heart, doesn’t have Presidential hair.

Happy Nomad on May 20, 2014 at 9:01 AM

And they have tried it every way. For a while there his hair was changing every time I saw him on Fox news. And I hear he supports amnesty so…

magicbeans on May 20, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I just noticed that I’m already dead tired of the 2016 election. Yay for the least of twenty evils! May I please just cast my absentee, write-in ballot for a ham sandwich now and go to sleep for a couple of years?

ElectricPhase on May 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Hm. There’s an interesting blue line along the top of one of the charts in this old post…

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/03/hot-air-primary-survey-results-may-edition/

Hi Patrick!

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

For a while there his hair was changing every time I saw him on Fox news. – magicbeans on May 20, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I thought I was the only one who noticed that. Very different looking hair on successive days, like his barber was tripping out.

Toocon on May 20, 2014 at 2:41 PM

To think that folks here believe it cannot happen to us is the most frightening thing of all. Just sayin’…

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Are you also a Doomsday Prepper??..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

*facepalm*..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Hi DS.

Hope I’m not being too obnoxious here- just think it’s kinda silly.

“Hey, Palin won almost all the polls last time. But she’s probably not running (assuming this is the thought?). So let’s leave her out of this poll… that contains lots of other people who probably aren’t running, either.”

/s

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

cs89 on May 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 4:08 PM

What if Cruz decides not to run…which could happen especially if Bush Inc. continues to push Jeb?

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

As I said, I really don’t think there will be an election in 2016 anyway. And it is doubtful that Texas will be involved in it anyway. The Texas Nationalist Movement is gaining strength and momentum daily. But, to answer your question, if Cruz doesn’t run, I don’t see anyone else that I would pull the lever for. I really don’t think anyone else has the balls or the tenacity OR the patriotism needed to bring this country back to greatness. Do really think Jeb Bush could? Marco Rubio? Chris Christie?? They are all a bunch of unprincipled wimps, in my view. The only strong and straight conservatives in the mix are Cruz & Palin.

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 1:00 PM

The reason I suggested Cruz might not run if Bush Inc. pushes Jeb has to do with splitting the Texas donors.

The only politician I think could give Bush Inc. a run for that money is Perry…So Cruz might sit this one out and build up his national creds for the next cycle…as I said he’s young yet and new as a politician.

I’m not sure Cruz wants to go up against Perry either…cause Perry has nothin’ to lose being a retired governor (like Jeb) and Cruz might if he can’t raise the dough.

I don’t think progressives are ready for national anarchy on the scale you suggest…at least not yet.

I also don’t think Texas is ready for a divorce.

Not saying’ none of that isn’t possible…just not yet…imho

It’s kinda like Putin…he’s not ready for wholesale invasion of the former territories…he needs to complete his navy upgrade as does China…But it could be down the pike.

If we elect another liberal like Hillary Clinton that would speed up Putin’s agenda…imho

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Are you also a Doomsday Prepper??..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Not to the degree you are envisioning, DS. I do have plenty of provisions stock piled and I have several firearms with adequate ammunition. I live 12 miles from the nearest town with a gas station and grocery, and 90 miles West of Dallas. If/when the shlt hits the fan, folks won’t be around here to bug me much, I don’t guess. Regardless, I have a couple hundred chickens, a freezer full of meat, a small amount of stock on the hoof, a small flock of turkeys and enough canned goods to last a while. I have a generator and fuel on hand as well. I’ll be O.K. for a while, I suppose. And folks such as you would continue to mock me in spite of all that looms on the horizon. Sorta like the 3 Little Pigs nursery rhyme. You’ll laugh when your straw house is gone in the first wave, my friend. And I’ll be just fine, thank you.

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 4:57 PM

I don’t think progressives are ready for national anarchy on the scale you suggest…at least not yet.

workingclass artist on May 20, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Progressives just may not be the ones that begin the unrest, WCA…There is an awful lot of anger and animosity being fomented and stoked here in Texas. And elsewhere. If the dems play their games at the ballot box in the mid-terms, it figures to get very ugly very quickly. We shall see, and I will be prepared. That’s all I’m sayin’…

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 5:00 PM

bimmcorp on May 20, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Good for you..I wish you well..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Good luck to all of you that think the problems created by the politicians are going to be solved at the ballot box. Ain’t gonna happen.

johnny reb on May 20, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Walker/Carson
Palin/Walker
Walker/Palin
Walker/Paul

SouthernGent on May 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM

The correct answers are:

Huckabee
Santorum
(Cruz/Huckabee/Jindal/Martinez/Pence/Rubio/Santorum/Other:Sessions)
Yes
Yes
Jeff Sessions

Stoic Patriot on May 20, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Any borders, language, culture fans on here? Might have to do a few write ins…

LaughterJones on May 20, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Part of the Savage nation?

Stoic Patriot on May 20, 2014 at 8:48 PM

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