Decision day Foregone conclusion day in Kentucky

posted at 10:01 am on May 20, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Voters in Kentucky go to the polls today to either put the final nail in the Matt Bevin political coffin or deliver the world’s biggest unpleasant surprise to incumbent Mitch McConnell in the US Senate primary. Despite some Tea Party grassroots support and a boatload of ill will from the grassroots groups directed at the Senate Minority Leader, Bevin’s candidacy never took off in Kentucky. His own shortcomings as a candidate, especially in his flip-flopping on TARP and his odd participation in a cockfighting-rights rally, undermined the Tea Party vs Establishment narrative long ago.

But don’t let that stop media outlets from pursuing that narrative regardless:

If Mitch McConnell wins the Kentucky Republican primary Tuesday – polls suggest he leads – some will wonder if the tea party is losing influence. What it’s really lost is the element of surprise.

In 2010 and 2012, a lot of Republican incumbents and favorites didn’t take on their tea party challenges early and they paid for it, but McConnell took no such chances this spring. He raised millions, mounted an aggressive campaign, and as a result goes into Tuesday night favored against tea party-backed businessman Matt Bevin.

When McConnell, the sitting Senate minority leader, drew this challenge, the political world circled May 20 on the calendar as a big test, not just for incumbent Republicans but as a measure of the animosity toward Congress that Americans have voiced this year. And in that sense, McConnell is hardly done fighting to keep his job even if he does manage to win Tuesday night.

The same anti-Washington sentiment that gave rise to this primary will also pervade the general election, and presumptive Democratic nominee, Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, is hoping to use it against McConnell, too, come November. Polls have that potential matchup mostly neck and neck, even in this very red state and even in what figures to be a Republican-leaning year.

The discussion in the video is better than the analysis in the article itself. The Tea Party narrative really died when Rand Paul endorsed McConnell, which drew sharp criticism from Paul’s usual base of support at the time. Time has proven the wisdom of Paul’s decision, however, as Bevin has stumbled all along the path to the primary. McConnell has a lead in the Real Clear Politics polling average of 22 points now, and Bevin might not even break 40%.

What’s next? McConnell faces off against Alison Lundergan Grimes, and the RCP average looks much less favorable for the incumbent. It’s a virtual dead heat in the last four polls listed, but that takes place in the context of a primary fight for the incumbent and a walkover for the challenger. When the dust settles, McConnell will be able to focus more clearly on Grimes, and the GOP base has nearly six months to soothe its internecine tensions and get behind McConnell to keep Grimes from pulling off a surprise win.

Grimes offered some fodder to McConnell this week with her full support of late-term abortions:

Left unmentioned: abortion, the main wedge that Democrats nationwide have used to divide GOP opponents from the swingiest parts of the electorate. In a twist, it is McConnell broaching the topic, hoping to create a fissure between the national pro-abortion-rights supporters who are helping bankroll Grimes’s campaign and the conservative voters she needs to carry this Southern state. He held a press conference in Washington earlier this week pushing to ban abortions after 20 weeks.

“We should all agree that unborn children should be protected at least from the point that they’re capable of feeling pain,” McConnell pointedly said of the legislation.

Grimes supports abortion rights. “I come from a family of five women,” she says in the interview. “I would never pretend to tell one of my sisters what to do with their body and I don’t want the federal government doing that either.… When it comes to choice, I believe, should a woman have to make that decision, it’s between herself, her doctor, and her God.”

As for McConnell’s 20-week abortion ban, she says, “I think you always put the health, life, and safety of the mother first, should that decision have to be made. I’m not for moving backwards the principles the Supreme Court has set forward.”

John McCormack pointed out yesterday that this puts Grimes on the fringe in Kentucky:

By coming out against the 20-week aboriton limit, Grimes is at odds with at least two-thirds of Kentucky voters. According to a Marist poll released last week, “67% of Kentucky residents think abortion should be illegal.  This includes 21% who say it should be illegal without exceptions and 46% who say it should be illegal except in cases of rape, incest, and to save the mother’s life.  28%, however, report abortion should be legal.  Included here are 18% who say abortion should always be legal and 10% who think it should be legal most of the time.”

Grimes’s opposition to the 20-week abortion limit on the grounds that it doesn’t put the “health, life, and safety of the mother first” doesn’t make sense. The text of the bill explicitly contains an exceptionfor when “in reasonable medical judgment, the abortion is necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself, but not including psychological or emotional conditions.” (Medical experts have testified before Congress that if a serious medical issue should arise late in pregnancy, delivering a child alive is actually much safer than aborting her: A live delivery of the baby can be performed in an hour, but a late-term abortion can take three days.)

Despite what some Democratic politicians have said, babies are viable–that is, they can survive long-term if born–20 weeks after conception. As Dr. Colleen Malloy of Northwestern University has noted, a Journal of the American Medical Association study found that “survival to one year of life of live born infants at 20, 21, 22, 23, and 24 weeks postfertilization age was 10%, 53%, 67%, 82%, and 85%, respectively.”

Kentucky voters will get to hear plenty on this, as well as on the economy and on ObamaCare, too. This will be a key race to watch in the midterms, but don’t be too surprised if it shifts over the summer in McConnell’s favor.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3

Some Tea Party supporter Rand Paul is with his support of McConnell. Thanks a lot, Paul. You’re no different than your nut job Dad.

Bob Davis on May 20, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Bmore

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2014 at 11:11 AM

You need to vote GOP because their grand strategy is being put in place and will be sprung on the demorats in the year 2052.

Until then the GOP needs to keep a low profile, do things like enact amnesty, maybe throw vets under the bus in favor of illegals getting EBT cards, whatever it takes to keep the plan moving forward and fool the left into complacence.

If you bigots could just hold on for a few more decades of ruinous GOP participation with the demorats you will see your reward.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 11:12 AM

Meredith = Joana.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Twin sisters from different mothers.

Bitter Clinger on May 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Bmore

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2014 at 11:11 AM

I just want to tell you that I am touched daily by your unfailing, unrequited love for Bmore. :)

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 11:12 AM

You post would be hilarious, except it hits so close to the mark for the explanation of why we should vote for the current Teflon GOP candidates.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 11:15 AM

Imagine one to two more Kagan’s or Sotomayer’s in the next two years.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

As opposed to one or two more Roberts’? Yeah, those “conservative” appointments have really worked out so well to us.

Shump on May 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM

looks like it’s shaping up to be a race between the turtle and the hair.

gracie on May 20, 2014 at 11:17 AM

As opposed to one or two more Roberts’? Yeah, those “conservative” appointments have really worked out so well to us.

Shump on May 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Ziiiiinnnngggg!

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 11:12 AM

I’ll be dead or on social security ( and thus expected to vote D anyway) by 2052

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 11:18 AM

I agree with TCUFrog at this point. Replacing McConnell with Grimes is a long term strategy, but the subsequent shift in electoral politics will be for the better. It is akin a tactical military retreat to strengthen ones forces for a larger more advantageous offensive. Voting in 30+ year incumbents is preferring to not retreat and getting steamrolled in the end.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Already sent $100 to Grimes

Sometimes you have to cut the head off the snake. Beating McConnell by any means necessary, even with a DEM, is best for the long run.

If Grimes wins, then we can run a real conservative against her in 2020 who should win after Kentucky endures 6 years from her, instead of being backstabbed over and over by McConnell and he will buy his way to victory again in 2020.

I’d rather have 6 years of Grimes than 12+ more years of McConnell.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

You are either a) a liar b) a freaking idiot, or c) a Democratic troll.

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 11:19 AM

As opposed to one or two more Roberts’? Yeah, those “conservative” appointments have really worked out so well to us.

Shump on May 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Indeed.

A short list of GOP appointment “successes”:

Warren (Ike)
Stevens (Ford)
O’Conner & Kennedy (Reagan)
Souter (Bush 41)
Roberts (Bush 43)

Bitter Clinger on May 20, 2014 at 11:20 AM

You are either a) a liar b) a freaking idiot, or c) a Democratic troll.

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 11:19 AM

D) Completely frustrated with the GOP and their leadership

Bitter Clinger on May 20, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Don’t forget Blackmun- the wonderful idiot that gave us Roe v. Wade.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 11:21 AM

My only contentment is that at least two Tea party backed candidates will be Senators next year to irritate McConnell ( Sasse and Shannon) maybe more, and there won’t be any Akins and Mourdocks to fling into my face when next I start demanding some principles.

I will also probably be content in the knowledge that the establishment fails in candidate selection in particular convincing Scott Brown to carpetbag into NH.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 11:22 AM

I will apologize to McConnell and rockmom if Mitch Borks every single Obama appointee between January 2015 and January 2017.

Spoiler alert: he won’t Bork a single one.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM

I can’t imagine Kentuckians declining a rare opportunity to have the next US Senate Majority Leader from their state–in favor of idiots like Bevin or Grimes? Any challenger would have to overcome this, but with these clowns, it shouldn’t even be close.

Armyspouse on May 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Armyspouse on May 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Does Mitch back clowns for House? Because he offered Bevin all of the money in the world to run against Yarmouth.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM

I voted Bevin before leaving for work this morning. I will not vote for the turtle face traitor in November. And if the GOPe do Amnesty, Operation Set It On Fire goes into effect: I will vote STRAIGHT TICKET Democrat until the collapse and Revolution comes.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 11:27 AM

voting Grimes to prevent Mitch from being reelected is a must. Send a message to these crony elitist career politicians. The GOP will retake the senate even with a loss in KY.

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Don’t forget Blackmun- the wonderful idiot that gave us Roe v. Wade.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Was he Nixon’s mistake?

Bitter Clinger on May 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

As opposed to one or two more Roberts’? Yeah, those “conservative” appointments have really worked out so well to us.

Shump on May 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Worst argument ever! We all hate the Ocare decision, however I would take two more Roberts any day over Kagan and Sotomeyer.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Its taken how many years of lying, stealing and cheating for the D-Rats to be in the position they’re now in, its gonna take more than a few elections to clean up this mess and get representative’s of the people in office, so………

angrymike on May 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

I wouldn’t vote for a demorat even if you held the nozzle of a sputtering flamethrower at my back, but that doesn’t mean an automatic default vote for the GOP.

For the time being this is still a free nation and I will simply refuse to vote if my choices are liberal azzhat or GOP squish.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

I can’t imagine Kentuckians declining a rare opportunity to have the next US Senate Majority Leader from their state–in favor of idiots like Bevin or Grimes? Any challenger would have to overcome this, but with these clowns, it shouldn’t even be close.

Armyspouse on May 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM

You have let the media shape the candidate. Bevin on every single issue of substance is a great candidate and for a conservative looking to restore constitutional governance a mile ahead of MCConnell, the fact that you fail to see that doesn’t give me hope in the future of this nation.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM

McConnell was on the Kelly files last night and he literally looked deathly ill.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

The childish “either play my way or I’m going to take my toys and go home” attitude by some in the TP is getting old. If you have a good candidate support him, tell why he or she is good, and how they will beat the Democrats. Trying to win by tearing down others is always a losing strategy for losers.

I understand that you may not like McConnell, however tell us why Bevin is a better choice and how he can beat Grimes. There hasn’t been one post in this chain that has taken on this subject.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

I wouldn’t vote for a demorat even if you held the nozzle of a sputtering flamethrower at my back, but that doesn’t mean an automatic default vote for the GOP.

For the time being this is still a free nation and I will simply refuse to vote if my choices are liberal azzhat or GOP squish.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

And Mitch McConnell claims he supports your right not to vote, apparently his cult following doesn’t.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 11:38 AM

“I think we are going to crush them everywhere,” Mr. McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, said in an interview, referring to the network of activist organizations working against him and two Republican incumbents in Kansas and Mississippi while engaging in a handful of other contests. “I don’t think they are going to have a single nominee anywhere in the country.”

Nothing says “Unity! Vote for me!” quite like being told that you will be crushed for daring to voice defiance and not toe the party line.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 11:42 AM

looks like it’s shaping up to be a race between the turtle and the hair.

gracie on May 20, 2014 at 11:17 AM

McConnel kind of does look like Cecil Turtle:

http://www.supercartoons.net/cartoon/694/bugs-bunny-tortoise-beats-hare.html

Nineball on May 20, 2014 at 11:44 AM

She puts the health and life of the mother and baby ahead of all else…baby killers don ‘t do that….so how come we have over 55 million dead babies and awful lot of woman that have died at the hands of abortionist if grimes is so worried about the health and welfare…this doesn’t take into account the emotional scars….

crosshugger on May 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

The childish “either play my way or I’m going to take my toys and go home” attitude by some in the TP (establishment) is getting old.

Remember they are the ones trashing members of their party for having the temerity to challenge in a primary, you know those things designed to allow the people to decide who their candidate will be. One need look no further than the VA Gov race to see what happens when the rino’s act out. In 2016 when the Dem POTUS candidate wins because they carry VA I guess it won’t be as funny.

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

The childish “either play my way or I’m going to take my toys and go home” attitude by some in the TP is getting old. If you have a good candidate support him, tell why he or she is good, and how they will beat the Democrats. Trying to win by tearing down others is always a losing strategy for losers.

I understand that you may not like McConnell, however tell us why Bevin is a better choice and how he can beat Grimes. There hasn’t been one post in this chain that has taken on this subject.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

It is to laugh, the establishment is the one that has been rolling out the “either play my way or I’m going to take my toys and go home” attitude since 2010, for both successful and unsuccessful “Tea Party” candidates. The establishment (R) hunger for amnesty renders your blindly partisan cheer-leading all the the more sad and pathetic, since it will shift the demographics of voting firmly in favor of the Democrats for the foreseeable future. The “moderates” have no desire to stop Obama’s Supreme Court nominees, many of them voted for them even though their votes didn’t matter in the Senate.

The R’s want to play patty-cake while the Democrats are engaged in long-term political-bloodsports, and the latter are winning.

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

I hope that you have procreated to ensure that your super intelligent genes survive because the US and humanities need someone like you… You are the perfect human, I even believe that you are a god, so we are so blessed to have a god like you among us the mortals…

mnjg on May 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Was he Nixon’s mistake?

Bitter Clinger on May 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Yep

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Grimes beating McConnell with the angry conservative minority pushing her over the top would still be sending a message that the GOP can’t just take our vote for granted and expect us to hold our noses and vote for them just because they aren’t democrats.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Mucking foron. You can only think in linear fashion…poor mind!

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

I hope that you have procreated to ensure that your super intelligent genes survive because the US and humanities need someone like you… You are the perfect human, I even believe that you are a god, so we are so blessed to have a god like you among us the mortals…

mnjg on May 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Well, compared to you and the rest of the Establishment-R cheerleaders…

“In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king…”

That being said, there’s never an excuse to vote for or financially support evil, especially an pro-abortion fanatic like Grimes.

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 11:58 AM

I just heard Matt on beck’s show. He’s fired up. If it is going to be a bow-out, he sure is not acting like it.

kingsjester on May 20, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Grimes beating McConnell with the angry conservative minority pushing her over the top would still be sending a message that the GOP can’t just take our vote for granted and expect us to hold our noses and vote for them just because they aren’t democrats.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Mucking foron. You can only think in linear fashion…poor mind!

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Especially since the Establishment R’s willfully blinded themselves after 2012′s results and claimed that being “pro-amnesty” would have saved them.

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 12:00 PM

It is extremely difficult to take out an incumbent for two primary reasons: money and name recognition.

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 11:04 AM

People say they don’t like incumbents but they seem to like their own incumbent senator in party leadership or heading a key committee.

Many Republicans in KY are voting for McConnell for senate majority leader. Just like the voted Harry Reid back in as majority leader.

If Bevin won the primary, imagine the libmedia feast that would begin immediately. Suddenly every liberal media outlet in the country would develop a deep interest in the criminal underground cockfighting syndicates and their elected henchmen with Bevin playing a starring role. It would be a fiasco exceeding the Aikens or Mourdock campaigns, perhaps rivaling even the Not-A-Witch campaign.

Toocon on May 20, 2014 at 12:02 PM

looks like it’s shaping up to be a race between the turtle and the hair.

gracie on May 20, 2014 at 11:17 AM

McConnel kind of does look like Cecil Turtle:

http://www.supercartoons.net/cartoon/694/bugs-bunny-tortoise-beats-hare.html

Nineball on May 20, 2014 at 11:44 AM

This is a more apt image for little Mitchie:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3128/2678855518_bd00f849d0.jpg

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 12:03 PM

The real surprise that conservatives have for the Establishment will be our refusal to vote for squishes during the general election.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM

voting Grimes to prevent Mitch from being reelected is a must. Send a message to these crony elitist career politicians. The GOP will retake the senate even with a loss in KY.

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

God you are a nihilist, stupid and most likely an O.F.A. troll.

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Still waiting on why Bevin would make the best candidate. It was easy to sell Cruz when he ran, just not sure about Bevin.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

I know I am a broken record but…TERM LIMITS!!! We need to start a national movement demanding that TERM LIMITS become a priority. Almost every problem we face is because we have career politicians who don’t care what the people want. Incumbency has become the biggest deterrent to representative government. We are being ruled by 70 and 80 year olds who have spent their entire adult lives in the bubble that is Washington, DC.

fight like a girl on May 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM

…D I T T O !

KOOLAID2 on May 20, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Amen!

pannw on May 20, 2014 at 12:15 PM

God you are a nihilist, stupid and most likely an O.F.A. troll.

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Well said, I do wonder how many of the “I’m not voting for the establishment” types are actually trolls?

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

because you don’t have the courage of conviction somehow we are the problem. Funny.

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Davis = Abortion Barbie so is
Grimes = Abortion Skipper?

Iblis on May 20, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I know I am a broken record but…TERM LIMITS!!! We need to start a national movement demanding that TERM LIMITS become a priority. Almost every problem we face is because we have career politicians who don’t care what the people want. Incumbency has become the biggest deterrent to representative government. We are being ruled by 70 and 80 year olds who have spent their entire adult lives in the bubble that is Washington, DC.

fight like a girl on May 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM

The Tyranny in DC is never going to be fixed by electing people to send to DC to run the Tyranny.

It’s human nature. For every Ted Cruz in the Senate there are going to be 10 Harry Reids and Mitch McConnell.

Reform will have to be IMPOSED on DC from without. Either by Constitutional Convention or Revolution. There is no third possibility.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Seems the Tea Party has more lives than nine cats.

Tsar of Earth on May 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM

As a “very conservative” political animal I have voted for the Republican ticket in every election,every year since I began voting in 1964.This November, should Lindsey Graham win the primary, I will march into the polls and for the very first time vote for a Democat.Not because I would agree with anything the man stood for, but because I now know deep in my heart that the GOP stands in the way of stopping socialist progressivism from destroying America.If the GOP survives they will not stop the destruction of this gteat nation.They have abandoned conservative principles and their corruption is as bad as the Democrats.Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell are liars.They will say and do anything to get re-elected and when they do they will betray conservatives every chance they get.So will almost every GOP politician.If you are a conservative, and care deeply about this country do not prostitute your principles for the notion that the GOP shares your love of America.If you live in Kentucky destroy Mitch McConnell,if you live in South Carolina do the same to Lindsey Graham.Begin the struggle to take down the GOP so we can replace it with a party that will advance our agenda and defeat the specter of liberalism.

redware on May 20, 2014 at 12:26 PM

I wouldn’t vote for a demorat even if you held the nozzle of a sputtering flamethrower at my back, but that doesn’t mean an automatic default vote for the GOP.

For the time being this is still a free nation and I will simply refuse to vote if my choices are liberal azzhat or GOP squish.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

That is my current position as well. However, I believe that at some point we’re going to have to help move this thing along to it’s logical conclusion: Collapse so we can just get this over with.

Operation Let It Burn becomes Operation Set It On Fire!

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

God you are a nihilist, stupid and most likely an O.F.A. troll.

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Well said, I do wonder how many of the “I’m not voting for the establishment” types are actually trolls?

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM

YES, and the “what’s the use, both parties are the same” crowd, and I’d call them concern trolls and Mobies.

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Still waiting on why Bevin would make the best candidate. It was easy to sell Cruz when he ran, just not sure about Bevin.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

If you are incapable of seeing the difference between Matt Bevin and Mitch McConnell on substantive issues then I cannot help you.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Mitch allowed on his watch the destruction of 200+ years of Senate precedent and turned over the debt ceiling to Obama. I’m sure with 1 more term he will get amnesty passed and then willing head to retirement. Yet people squabble whether Bevin has the bonfides to challenge him.

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Doubt it will happen, but it would be too rich if the “2016 Red Wave” was sabotaged by the most conservative senate majority leader in US history losing his seat in KENTUCKY of all places, thanks to the insanity of the rightwing nutbars.

everdiso on May 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Apparently not voting is the same as voting D now eh?

Even your god Mitch McConnell defends my right not to vote.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Okay, my rant: This primary will obviously show the utter stupidity of the kentucky republican voters! It has become obvious that mcconnel will most likely win the nomination. mcconnel=’the turtle traitor’. bought by the U.S. chamber of commerce, like many republicans. Yeah, the chamber of commerce, including its supporters and members, that is more interested in its wallet than the sovereignty of the United States. They are traitors in the most serious sense of the word for pushing amnesty over the sovereignty of this country. And mcconnel is one of them, along with paul, cantor, and many others. I expect dems to be traitors, but republicans? Shows what they will turn into to get money and win elections! When will the real Americans wake up?

boogieboy on May 20, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Sometimes it becomes crysral clear that the real problem around here and similar forums is that you guys really aren’t very smart.

everdiso on April 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2014 at 12:38 PM

everdiso on May 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM

McConnell isn’t anywhere close to being the “most conservative senate majority leader in U.S. history” jackass.

Go play with your f**ing crayons!

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 12:39 PM

everdiso on May 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Learn how to F***ing spell.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Tater Salad

Voting straight GOP in 2012 but refusing to not blow Mitch’s mitch apparently makes me an OFA troll.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM

http://therightscoop.com/matt-bevin-mcconnell-pretending-to-be-conservative-to-trick-his-way-back-into-us-senate/

Please Kentucky elect Matt Bevin. Listen to him speak compared with the mealy mouthed turtle aka Mitch McConnell and then tell me how great McConnell is.

I can’t believe there is people on a conservative website like HotAir advocating for Mitch McConnell. Totally mind blown.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Everyone needs to understand one big thing about this Primary here in Kentucky. Bevin was a 27th round draft pick, he was never going to win, he had no chance at all ever.

When you put a candidate as pathetic as he is up against an incumbent what did you expect? If anyone with any brains at all expected the outcome to be any different than it is, you are being extremely naive.

Nearly his entire campaign war chest was spent just defending himself and his personal life choices. He was going to lose before he even got started, there was simply too much dirt on him to come anywhere close to McConnell. Nobody had to really even dig to find a ton of negative stuff about him that would turn off the vast majority of voters here, it was all laying right there in the open. Whoever picked him is a political idiot.

If you want to beat McConnell at least try and get a somewhat decent candidate.

Johnnyreb on May 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM

McConnell isn’t anywhere close to being the “most conservative senate majority leader in U.S. history” jackass

Name one with a more conservative record.

everdiso on May 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

everdiso on May 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Everrett Dirksen jackass.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Sorry to go Off-topic….
But this is My nominee for the biggest WELL DUHHHHH!! Story of the year:

Why Democrats Are Aching to Run Against Jeb Bush
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/why-hillary-clinton-and-democrats-are-aching-to-run-against-jeb-bush/371163/

DinaRehn on May 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Actually correction, Dirksen was never Majority leader ( neither was McConnell for that matter)

Bob Taft was though, and he was more conservative.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Everyone needs to understand one big thing about this Primary here in Kentucky. Bevin was a 27th round draft pick, he was never going to win, he had no chance at all ever.

When you put a candidate as pathetic as he is up against an incumbent what did you expect? If anyone with any brains at all expected the outcome to be any different than it is, you are being extremely naive.

Nearly his entire campaign war chest was spent just defending himself and his personal life choices. He was going to lose before he even got started, there was simply too much dirt on him to come anywhere close to McConnell. Nobody had to really even dig to find a ton of negative stuff about him that would turn off the vast majority of voters here, it was all laying right there in the open. Whoever picked him is a political idiot.

If you want to beat McConnell at least try and get a somewhat decent candidate.

Johnnyreb on May 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM

You will never find your utopian candidate. He is a constitutional conservative who can clearly articulate his principals and positions. I can’t believe the people of Kentucky let the media shape your opinion of Bevin when by all accounts he more substantive on the issues that will define whether we continue our slide to fiscal and societal collapse or not.

But cockfighting or something. OMG.

By the way, who did you vote for?

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Reform will have to be IMPOSED on DC from without. Either by Constitutional Convention or Revolution. There is no third possibility.

ConstantineXI on May 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Unfortunately, this is the correct assessment.

Harbingeing on May 20, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Henry Cabot Lodge was another..

Now tell me how Mitch McConnell was some “great conservative leader” please explain how is that.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Anyone who thinks that more Kagans will be stopped is fooling themselves (but we will get another Robert if McConnell is the majority leader. And the senate doesn’t matter when the executive branch rules unilaterally. But even 2016 wont matter, because our nominee will be Jeb for one simple reason: “we can’t risk the presidency.” That will ensure that no conservative agenda happens after the midterms. Short term politics is like drinking mercury. Never good for you.

nobar on May 20, 2014 at 12:57 PM

You will never find your utopian candidate. He is a constitutional conservative who can clearly articulate his principals and positions. I can’t believe the people of Kentucky let the media shape your opinion of Bevin when by all accounts he more substantive on the issues that will define whether we continue our slide to fiscal and societal collapse or not.

But cockfighting or something. OMG.

By the way, who did you vote for?

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Bevin was a political loser anywhere in Kentucky based solely on his record. He never came out and made on single statement on any issue that is important to voters here in Kentucky except his stupid headed move endorsing cock fighting. Go check ontheissues.org. He has virtually no position on the vast majority of issues that are important to voters here.

Johnnyreb on May 20, 2014 at 12:59 PM

By the way, who did you vote for?

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Kentucky is a closed Primary state Independents can’t vote in the Primaries here.

Johnnyreb on May 20, 2014 at 1:00 PM

everdiso on May 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Everrett Dirksen jackass.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Trent Lott was WAAAAYYYY more fiscally and socially conservative than McConnell..

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM

The real surprise that conservatives have for the Establishment will be our refusal to vote for squishes during the general election.

TheRightMan on May 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Yes, that is the only way to take out an entrenched corrupt Republican. You won’t have to fight them in the primary next time.

Insanity is having the same behavior and expecting a different outcome.

Bush Mafia purge.

Jayrae on May 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Bevin was a political loser anywhere in Kentucky based solely on his record. He never came out and made on single statement on any issue that is important to voters here in Kentucky except his stupid headed move endorsing cock fighting. Go check ontheissues.org. He has virtually no position on the vast majority of issues that are important to voters here.

Johnnyreb on May 20, 2014 at 12:59 PM

That could be an argument if we did not have the 17th Amendment.

His positions on the issues that will determine this nations solvency are clear as day. If Kentuckians aren’t capable of simply going to a candidates web page and determining that then I am at a loss for words.

Who did you vote for? Just curious.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Kentucky is a closed Primary state Independents can’t vote in the Primaries here.

Johnnyreb on May 20, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Who would you have voted for?

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Horse pucky. The time to send a message is at the polls today. If that fails, you have to think big picture, and that is electing as many R’s as possible to stop The One.

wmichaels1 on May 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM

What makes you think they want to stop him? I haven’t seen one single thing that says that. They have given up on repealing Ocare and are all in for amnesty. What are they going to stop, prey tell?

magicbeans on May 20, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Lodge the first and most conservative, then a close second between Watson and after a long spell Lott. But even those 3 were within 1 std of the mean. Mitch would fall on the mean at best, but he will not be the leader so is moot.

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Fiscally? I’m not sure, socially probably, but Lott wasn’t much of a conservative either.

But perhaps better then McConnell.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM

I keep seeing comments that say we need to look at the big picture and vote for McConnell. Where or where is the big picture when a tea party candidate is running and the GOPe is working hard to get the Democrat elected? Virginia anyone? Yeah. No thanks.

magicbeans on May 20, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

because you don’t have the courage of conviction somehow we are the problem. Funny.

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM

My conviction is that winning is every thing while your conviction is that losing is noble. Therefore we get candidates such as Christine O’Donnell, Richard Mourdock, Todd Akin, and Sharron Angle.

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 1:15 PM

There is no difference between Grimes and Mitch. Mitch will allow far left judges to be vote on, he will keep Obamacare, will give Texas to Democrat party, continue to pass trillions of dollars in debt budget plan.

Again what is the difference between Grimes and Mitch?

BroncosRock on May 20, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Fiscally? I’m not sure, socially probably, but Lott wasn’t much of a conservative either.

But perhaps better then McConnell.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Probably not, but at least he kept Clinton in check unlike McConnell.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 1:17 PM

That being said, there’s never an excuse to vote for or financially support evil, especially an pro-abortion fanatic like Grimes.

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 11:58 AM

I will never side with this tactic on the sheer stupidity of not knowing what is on the other side of the canyon. People intentionally wanting to crash the system seem to think something better will come out of the wreckage in fairly short order. They are simpletons, one and all, unless they have some flawless secret plan to ensure that after they help derail the train.

LawfulGood on May 20, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Who would you have voted for?

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Way to move those goalposts.

Johnnyreb on May 20, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Hilts on May 20, 2014 at 1:15 PM

do you actually believe the garbage you spew? Do you know how many senator’s we lost on Mitch’s watch? Are you claiming you would rather the TEA party have never risen? Maybe a little history for clarity would be in order.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/10/blame_the_tea_party_use_your_memory.html

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Ed doesn’t even try to hide it.

bluegill on May 20, 2014 at 1:23 PM

When the dust settles, McConnell will be able to focus more clearly on Grimes, and the GOP base has nearly six months to soothe its internecine tensions and get behind McConnell to keep Grimes from pulling off a surprise win.

Whatever. I’m sure passing amnesty will soothe the base.

magicbeans on May 20, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Candidates won’t commit to McConnell

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/204621-gop-candidates-wont-commit-to-McConnell

What’s different in 2014, however, is that it’s not just the most conservative Republicans who are declining to commit to supporting McConnell.

“Mitch McConnell has become radioactive, it sounds like,” said Al Cross, a political commentator and professor of journalism at the University of Kentucky. “Nobody wants to alienate the Tea Party vote in primaries that might have a low turnout.

“Nobody wants to have somebody, an outside or an opponent, run an ad pairing you up with Mitch McConnell, whose approval rating is dismal,” he said. “He is emblematic of Washington.”

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Mitch McConnell doesn’t deserve to be Majority Leader.

bluegill on May 20, 2014 at 1:24 PM

I notice the self-identified Kentuckians on this thread are pretty evenly split between Bevin and the Mitchster. Passion is clearly on the side of the Bevinistas, judging by the namecalling.

If that’s the divide here at HotAir, that means a blowout in KY with McConnell at 65-70%.

Toocon on May 20, 2014 at 1:34 PM

LawfulGood on May 20, 2014 at 1:20 PM

As opposed to people who want to intentionally crash the system? What will amnesty do to this nation? When obamacare becomes fully implemented, what will happen then? When the national debt becomes 200% of GDP in 2020? Are you really that blind that you don’t see it coming anyway? The Dems and the Repubs are both leading the country down this path, one faster than the other. Those of us that don’t want to continue the slow march to destruction with either party are stupid, idiot, nihilists, who need to be “crushed”.

JAGonzo on May 20, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Umm … cockfighting?! Seriously?

Blacksheep on May 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I’d rather have 6 years of Grimes than 12+ more years of McConnell.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Insane.

Missy on May 20, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Missy on May 20, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Missy, what exactly do you think Grimes can do in the minority?

smitty41 on May 20, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Weak sauce vs. Old incumbent weak sauce. Hmm.. Some exciting primary times in the GOP.

No Time Clock on May 20, 2014 at 1:56 PM

How long before he starts drooling over the thought of being the Majority Leader in the senate? Sometimes the entrenched ones really start to bother me. The only good thing will be when dingy Harry gets the boot.

Kissmygrits on May 20, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Bmore Bmore

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3