Decision day Foregone conclusion day in Kentucky

posted at 10:01 am on May 20, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Voters in Kentucky go to the polls today to either put the final nail in the Matt Bevin political coffin or deliver the world’s biggest unpleasant surprise to incumbent Mitch McConnell in the US Senate primary. Despite some Tea Party grassroots support and a boatload of ill will from the grassroots groups directed at the Senate Minority Leader, Bevin’s candidacy never took off in Kentucky. His own shortcomings as a candidate, especially in his flip-flopping on TARP and his odd participation in a cockfighting-rights rally, undermined the Tea Party vs Establishment narrative long ago.

But don’t let that stop media outlets from pursuing that narrative regardless:

If Mitch McConnell wins the Kentucky Republican primary Tuesday – polls suggest he leads – some will wonder if the tea party is losing influence. What it’s really lost is the element of surprise.

In 2010 and 2012, a lot of Republican incumbents and favorites didn’t take on their tea party challenges early and they paid for it, but McConnell took no such chances this spring. He raised millions, mounted an aggressive campaign, and as a result goes into Tuesday night favored against tea party-backed businessman Matt Bevin.

When McConnell, the sitting Senate minority leader, drew this challenge, the political world circled May 20 on the calendar as a big test, not just for incumbent Republicans but as a measure of the animosity toward Congress that Americans have voiced this year. And in that sense, McConnell is hardly done fighting to keep his job even if he does manage to win Tuesday night.

The same anti-Washington sentiment that gave rise to this primary will also pervade the general election, and presumptive Democratic nominee, Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, is hoping to use it against McConnell, too, come November. Polls have that potential matchup mostly neck and neck, even in this very red state and even in what figures to be a Republican-leaning year.

The discussion in the video is better than the analysis in the article itself. The Tea Party narrative really died when Rand Paul endorsed McConnell, which drew sharp criticism from Paul’s usual base of support at the time. Time has proven the wisdom of Paul’s decision, however, as Bevin has stumbled all along the path to the primary. McConnell has a lead in the Real Clear Politics polling average of 22 points now, and Bevin might not even break 40%.

What’s next? McConnell faces off against Alison Lundergan Grimes, and the RCP average looks much less favorable for the incumbent. It’s a virtual dead heat in the last four polls listed, but that takes place in the context of a primary fight for the incumbent and a walkover for the challenger. When the dust settles, McConnell will be able to focus more clearly on Grimes, and the GOP base has nearly six months to soothe its internecine tensions and get behind McConnell to keep Grimes from pulling off a surprise win.

Grimes offered some fodder to McConnell this week with her full support of late-term abortions:

Left unmentioned: abortion, the main wedge that Democrats nationwide have used to divide GOP opponents from the swingiest parts of the electorate. In a twist, it is McConnell broaching the topic, hoping to create a fissure between the national pro-abortion-rights supporters who are helping bankroll Grimes’s campaign and the conservative voters she needs to carry this Southern state. He held a press conference in Washington earlier this week pushing to ban abortions after 20 weeks.

“We should all agree that unborn children should be protected at least from the point that they’re capable of feeling pain,” McConnell pointedly said of the legislation.

Grimes supports abortion rights. “I come from a family of five women,” she says in the interview. “I would never pretend to tell one of my sisters what to do with their body and I don’t want the federal government doing that either.… When it comes to choice, I believe, should a woman have to make that decision, it’s between herself, her doctor, and her God.”

As for McConnell’s 20-week abortion ban, she says, “I think you always put the health, life, and safety of the mother first, should that decision have to be made. I’m not for moving backwards the principles the Supreme Court has set forward.”

John McCormack pointed out yesterday that this puts Grimes on the fringe in Kentucky:

By coming out against the 20-week aboriton limit, Grimes is at odds with at least two-thirds of Kentucky voters. According to a Marist poll released last week, “67% of Kentucky residents think abortion should be illegal.  This includes 21% who say it should be illegal without exceptions and 46% who say it should be illegal except in cases of rape, incest, and to save the mother’s life.  28%, however, report abortion should be legal.  Included here are 18% who say abortion should always be legal and 10% who think it should be legal most of the time.”

Grimes’s opposition to the 20-week abortion limit on the grounds that it doesn’t put the “health, life, and safety of the mother first” doesn’t make sense. The text of the bill explicitly contains an exceptionfor when “in reasonable medical judgment, the abortion is necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself, but not including psychological or emotional conditions.” (Medical experts have testified before Congress that if a serious medical issue should arise late in pregnancy, delivering a child alive is actually much safer than aborting her: A live delivery of the baby can be performed in an hour, but a late-term abortion can take three days.)

Despite what some Democratic politicians have said, babies are viable–that is, they can survive long-term if born–20 weeks after conception. As Dr. Colleen Malloy of Northwestern University has noted, a Journal of the American Medical Association study found that “survival to one year of life of live born infants at 20, 21, 22, 23, and 24 weeks postfertilization age was 10%, 53%, 67%, 82%, and 85%, respectively.”

Kentucky voters will get to hear plenty on this, as well as on the economy and on ObamaCare, too. This will be a key race to watch in the midterms, but don’t be too surprised if it shifts over the summer in McConnell’s favor.


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Already sent $100 to Grimes

Sometimes you have to cut the head off the snake. Beating McConnell by any means necessary, even with a DEM, is best for the long run.

If Grimes wins, then we can run a real conservative against her in 2020 who should win after Kentucky endures 6 years from her, instead of being backstabbed over and over by McConnell and he will buy his way to victory again in 2020.

I’d rather have 6 years of Grimes than 12+ more years of McConnell.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Grimey!

22044 on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Grimes offered some fodder to McConnell this week with her full support of late-term abortions:

Important: why I’d hold my nose and vote for McConnell, presuming that he’s the nominee.

22044 on May 20, 2014 at 10:07 AM

We are on our way to cast two votes for Bevin.
If McConnell wins, it won’t be because of us.

Norky on May 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM

“I would never pretend to tell one of my sisters what to do with their body and I don’t want the federal government doing that either.… When it comes to choice, I believe, should a woman have to make that decision, it’s between herself, her doctor, and her God.”

Hey! You left one person out of the equation. That little guy you killed is probably going to be on the side of the pro-life folks.

Herb on May 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Young Dems don’t seem to beat around the bush and obfuscate the way that the older and more experienced Dems do. By coming straight out with it, Grimes will cost herself some votes. That and her inherited privilege ought to insure McConnell’s victory and leave her as the victim to whine on TV.

…and, Bishop!

DublOh7 on May 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM

I’d rather have 6 years of Grimes than 12+ more years of McConnell.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Not me. It’s not just Kentucky that suffers with a Grimes victory; it’s the entire country.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Lifer for the win, because nothing says “Being in touch with average citizens” quite like living in the DC bubble for 30 years.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM

If you’re going after big game, you need the big-game gun.

Bevin seemed to be packing a pea shooter.

BuckeyeSam on May 20, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Already sent $100 to Grimes

Oh. Lost Barry’s address?

Marcus on May 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Not me. It’s not just Kentucky that suffers with a Grimes victory; it’s the entire country.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Yeah, but there is a secret part of me that says that these dug in GOPers who think they have Teflon political careers need to be taught a lesson.. YMMV.. But I have a feeling Ole Mitch is going to be even more arrogant and out of touch once he is reelected.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM

participation in a cockfighting-rights rally

whoah whoah whoah…wait one second…how does McConnell even have a chance against this guy?

MikeInBA on May 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM

No red wave this year. Status quo for infinity.

nobar on May 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Already sent $100 to Grimes…

I’d rather have 6 years of Grimes than 12+ more years of McConnell.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Hooey, that’s some powerful stupidity, right there.

Inkblots on May 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Oh. Lost Barry’s address?

Marcus on May 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Anyone who verbally attacks conservatives multiple times like McConnell has needs to be defeated by any means possible.

Grimes beating McConnell with the angry conservative minority pushing her over the top would still be sending a message that the GOP can’t just take our vote for granted and expect us to hold our noses and vote for them just because they aren’t democrats.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

The race is close but McConnell isn’t worried – he knows the tale of the tortoise and the hare.

gwelf on May 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM

The race is close but McConnell isn’t worried – he knows the tale of the tortoise and the hare.

gwelf on May 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Bwaaaaaaahaaaaa

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

But I have a feeling Ole Mitch is going to be even more arrogant and out of touch once he is reelected.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Do you think that maybe, just maybe, it’s because conservatives put up a terrible candidate against him just to stick their thumb in his eye?

Do you people not understand that actions have consequences? If you spend Tea Party money to attack moderate senators, you only alienate them. If the Tea Party worked in conjunction with the GOP instead of constantly trying to cut them off at the knee, maybe the Karl Roves of the world wouldn’t be correct in disparaging the Tea Party as hostile to long-term conservative goals.

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Hooey, that’s some powerful stupidity, right there.

Inkblots on May 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM

The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Keep on voting for and supporting the same politicians like McConnell that got us into this mess, keep on going with the “lesser of two evils” approach.

McConnell has done nothing to deserve my vote. I vote for a candidate because I am voting for them, not because I am voting against someone else.

Multiple debt ceiling hikes, tax increases, multiple budgets and resolutions that do not cut one cent of spending, have all been pushed over the finish line by REPUBLICANS since the GOP took the House in 2010. Plus they want amnesty. So why do the likes of McConnell deserve my vote?

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Can Rand Paul’s boyfriend pull it off?

Pork-Chop on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Yup. Going to a cockfight is worse than undermining conservative principles from a position of power in D.C. Good grief. Hot Air seems thrilled that this is a foregone conclusion.

will77jeff on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Grimes beating McConnell with the angry conservative minority pushing her over the top would still be sending a message that the GOP can’t just take our vote for granted and expect us to hold our noses and vote for them just because they aren’t democrats.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

I kinda agree, although I have no skin in your vote. I do, however, have to contend with an Alexander and a Corker– UGH..

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Do you people not understand that actions have consequences? If you spend Tea Party money to attack moderate senators, you only alienate them. If the Tea Party worked in conjunction with the GOP instead of constantly trying to cut them off at the knee, maybe the Karl Roves of the world wouldn’t be correct in disparaging the Tea Party as hostile to long-term conservative goals.

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

If the Republicans ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THEIR OWN DAMN PLATFORM, WE WOULDN’T NEED A TEA PARTY.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Not me. It’s not just Kentucky that suffers with a Grimes victory; it’s the entire country.

Only Kentucky suffers with a McConnell victory?

will77jeff on May 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Problem for the Tea Party is it really helps to have experience running in prior elections, but anyone who might fit that description is never going to challenge a sitting senator in their state. It’s a death sentence for their political career if they lose.

I thought Bevin was fantastic in all his interviews and speeches and would make a fine Senator (he has a terrific biography/resume compared to ruling class McConnell). I’m not sure any other candidate could have done better.

commodore on May 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Anyone who verbally attacks conservatives multiple times like McConnell has needs to be defeated by any means possible.

Grimes beating McConnell with the angry conservative minority pushing her over the top would still be sending a message that the GOP can’t just take our vote for granted and expect us to hold our noses and vote for them just because they aren’t democrats.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

You think that an “angry conservative minority” who couldn’t push Bevin over the top of McConnell will somehow push Grimes over McConnell?

I’m no fan of Mitch, but this seems illogical.

airupthere on May 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Grimes-McConnell reminds me of Stockman-Cornyn in Texas two months ago — if you,re going to topple the incumbent for his actions in the Senate, don’t expect to do it with a candidate who can’t even hide his flaws during the primary season. That’s the lesson many primary voters took from the Angle and O’Donnell losses in 2010 and the defeats suffered by Aiken and Mourdock in 2012 — they’re not going to take a chance on an opponent no matter how irked they are at the incumbent, unless they’re sure the opponent is ready to run a general election campaign (against the Democrat and the big media, which will blow up any flaw into not just a major issue for that candidate, but for every GOP candidate for Senate in November).

jon1979 on May 20, 2014 at 10:20 AM

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the tea party sucks..

So what? You are changing the SUBJECT which is McConnell has been in office too long, and doesn’t have any clue what goes on in middle America. He completely capitulates to Dem, and with him in charge there is NO opposition party. In fact, McConnell spends more time opposing those in his OWN party then he does the Dems.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:20 AM

If the Republicans ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THEIR OWN DAMN PLATFORM, WE WOULDN’T NEED A TEA PARTY.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Bing, Bing, Bing… Hotair winner for the day!!!!!

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:21 AM

If the Tea Party worked in conjunction with the GOP instead of constantly trying to cut them off at the knee,

Examples of how we can “work in conjunction” please?

Support amnesty?
Support earmarks?
Give up on fighting Obamacare?

will77jeff on May 20, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Grimes-McConnell reminds me of Stockman-Cornyn in Texas two months ago/

Bevin-McConnell. Touchpad brain part in the first post.

jon1979 on May 20, 2014 at 10:23 AM

tcufrog…proving irrevocably why TruCons are so alienating and have no hope of ever cajoling enough voters to their cause to actually win elections.

Enjoy your hissy fit, idiot. Are you even capable of looking at the big picture, or is it all about doing what makes you feel so goshdarned superior in the short term?

No wonder our disaster of a POTUS won re-election.

Meredith on May 20, 2014 at 10:23 AM

…and to think we could have had Senator Puffy Face (err…I mean Ashley Judd) taking office in 2015.

Kentucky getting another crappy senator was pretty much baked into the cake.

DRayRaven on May 20, 2014 at 10:25 AM

tcufrog…proving irrevocably why TruCons are so alienating and have no hope of ever cajoling enough voters to their cause to actually win elections.

Enjoy your hissy fit, idiot. Are you even capable of looking at the big picture, or is it all about doing what makes you feel so goshdarned superior in the short term?

No wonder our disaster of a POTUS won re-election.

Meredith on May 20, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Meredith…proving irrevocably why Republicans are no different than Democrats.

Enjoy your superiority, toots. When the “big picture” consists of Republicans joining hands with Democrats to shove big government programs down our throats, amnesty, and giving up on Obamacare, then you should come out of the closet as a Dem.

No wonder the country is lost.

will77jeff on May 20, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Enjoy your superiority, toots. When the “big picture” consists of Republicans joining hands with Democrats to shove big government programs down our throats, amnesty, and giving up on Obamacare, then you should come out of the closet as a Dem.

No wonder the country is lost.

will77jeff on May 20, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Not here to defend Meredith or McConnell, but he certainly didn’t vote for Obamacare and has been a constant thorn in the side of Reid and Obama.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Only Kentucky suffers with a McConnell victory?

will77jeff on May 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Grimes would be a far worse option for the country at large.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 20, 2014 at 10:30 AM

$50 will buy a vote in many rural areas of Kentucky.

McConnell has lots of $50 bills to float around the countryside.

Carnac on May 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Not me. It’s not just Kentucky that suffers with a Grimes victory; it’s the entire country.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Quite the opposite. If McConnell loses to Grimes, then John Cornyn presumably takes over the Senate (if the Republicans win it). Cornyn didn’t do that well in the primary in Texas – under 60 percent against light resistance. He won’t be able to move very far left without risking a split with Cruz.

Not to mention that voting en masse against McConnell would freak out the Establishment.

Having McConnell out and Cornyn in is better for conservatives than re-electing McConnell to lead the Senate.

Or you can just assume your normal seat at the back of the Republican bus.

K. Hobbit on May 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Never understood how McConnell became some kind of huge target. He’s not the best, but he is (more than anyone else) responsible for the sequester.

Remember the sequester? That was the only mechanism that helped control spending in the last 6 years (before Paul Ryan surrendered it away for absolutely nothing).

There are so many worse Senators and Congressmen to focus your energies and money on.

If this were to get McCain out of office I’d be the first to open up my checkbook. But McConnell?

I just don’t see it.

Skipity on May 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Grimes-McConnell reminds me of Stockman-Cornyn in Texas two months ago — if you,re going to topple the incumbent for his actions in the Senate, don’t expect to do it with a candidate who can’t even hide his flaws during the primary season. That’s the lesson many primary voters took from the Angle and O’Donnell losses in 2010 and the defeats suffered by Aiken and Mourdock in 2012 — they’re not going to take a chance on an opponent no matter how irked they are at the incumbent, unless they’re sure the opponent is ready to run a general election campaign (against the Democrat and the big media, which will blow up any flaw into not just a major issue for that candidate, but for every GOP candidate for Senate in November).

jon1979 on May 20, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Steve Stockman didn’t even run a campaign. I live in Texas and never saw or heard a single ad from him. Didn’t see any campaign signs or anything.

And you are quick to point out Angle and O’Donnell, I will be quick to point out Karl Rove’s and the establishment’s MAGNIFICENT 7 from 2012:

-Denny Rehberg
-Rick Berg
-Connie Mack
-Heather Wilson
-Tommy Thompson
-Scott Brown
-Linda Lingle

All establishment moderate Republicans that lost

You have NO ROOM to talk about Angle and Murdock when SEVEN ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS lost alone in 2012, not counting the ones that lost in 2010.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Bevin is better than McConnell. McConnell is better than Grimes. End of story. The TEA party, of which I consider myself a supporter, needs to understand that this is a long term war. We will win some battles and lose some battles in 2014, but the point is to learn from our experience and become wiser in the next round.

I saw this same cycle in the 90s. Many of my conservative Christian friends moved into the Republican party in droves demanding victories at every level immediately. When they only got a mixed bag, they became disillusioned and cynical. Many of our non-voters and independents are those from the 90s who gave up too quickly. National politics is not Grenada. It’s World War I. You win by attrition.

jya lai on May 20, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Not here to defend Meredith or McConnell, but he certainly didn’t vote for Obamacare and has been a constant thorn in the side of Reid and Obama.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:29 AM

I don’t see the “thorn” part. In fact, I know my two senators under the direction of McConell were the deciding votes that let several things out of committee(Alexander/Ryan-Murray Budget).. Yeah, they ended up voting no on the vote, but they knew the Dems would pass the bad laws if they let it out. Dems have no problem stalling bills in committee when they are the minority, yet we just keep allowing them to push it right on through.

They do this crap all the time for cover.. No, I didn’t vote for that Dem bill, but yeah you really did, because you let it get out of cloture.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

Quite the opposite. If McConnell loses to Grimes, then John Cornyn presumably takes over the Senate (if the Republicans win it). Cornyn didn’t do that well in the primary in Texas – under 60 percent against light resistance. He won’t be able to move very far left without risking a split with Cruz.

Not to mention that voting en masse against McConnell would freak out the Establishment.

Having McConnell out and Cornyn in is better for conservatives than re-electing McConnell to lead the Senate.

Or you can just assume your normal seat at the back of the Republican bus.

K. Hobbit on May 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Except Cornyn may be leading the GOP in the minority if that happens. I would take a McConnell lead majority over a Cornyn minority any day. Imagine one to two more Kagan’s or Sotomayer’s in the next two years.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

Never understood how McConnell became some kind of huge target. He’s not the best, but he is (more than anyone else) responsible for the sequester.

Remember the sequester? That was the only mechanism that helped control spending in the last 6 years (before Paul Ryan surrendered it away for absolutely nothing).

There are so many worse Senators and Congressmen to focus your energies and money on.

If this were to get McCain out of office I’d be the first to open up my checkbook. But McConnell?

I just don’t see it.

Skipity on May 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM

You see nothing wrong with someone who calls conservatives “Stupid”?

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Meredith = Joana.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 10:39 AM

You think that an “angry conservative minority” who couldn’t push Bevin over the top of McConnell will somehow push Grimes over McConnell?

I’m no fan of Mitch, but this seems illogical.

airupthere on May 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM

If enough conservatives stay home or vote 3rd party that could be enough to push Grimes over the top.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Skipity on May 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM

How do you think sequester got ended? McConnell and his GOP group voted for cloture to bring Ryan-Murray to the floor… Then all the Repubs that voted for cloture voted against it. They could pass a budget, but claim they didn’t vote to bring back sequester or vote against veterans.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:39 AM

jon1979 on May 20, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Stockman wasn’t a serious candidate. He announced maybe 4 months before the primary and didn’t even run a campaign. I can’t think of anyone major who endorsed him. Even Redstate ran a piece on sticking with Cornyn. There were also many other unknown candidates on the ballot. Despite that Cornyn only received 59% of the primary vote even though he flooded the airwaves with ads touting his conservatism. That’s pretty pathetic.

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Having McConnell out and Cornyn in is better for conservatives than re-electing McConnell to lead the Senate.

Or you can just assume your normal seat at the back of the Republican bus.

K. Hobbit on May 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Nope.

Except Cornyn may be leading the GOP in the minority if that happens. I would take a McConnell lead majority over a Cornyn minority any day. Imagine one to two more Kagan’s or Sotomayer’s in the next two years.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

This is spot on.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM

LOL, expecting a Republican to act like a conservative is being a purist. Why don’t you Republicans just merge with the Democrats. They are more than willing to have you work with capitulate to them on their issues. Let us know how it turns out for ya.

JAGonzo on May 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM

If the Tea Party worked in conjunction with the GOP instead of constantly trying to cut them off at the knee, maybe the Karl Roves of the world wouldn’t be correct in disparaging the Tea Party as hostile to long-term conservative goals.

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

ROFL

I’ll try to remember how conservative the current GOP is when they push amnesty on us this summer.

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Quite the opposite. If McConnell loses to Grimes, then John Cornyn presumably takes over the Senate (if the Republicans win it). Cornyn didn’t do that well in the primary in Texas – under 60 percent against light resistance. He won’t be able to move very far left without risking a split with Cruz.

Not to mention that voting en masse against McConnell would freak out the Establishment.

Having McConnell out and Cornyn in is better for conservatives than re-electing McConnell to lead the Senate.

Or you can just assume your normal seat at the back of the Republican bus.

K. Hobbit on May 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Except Cornyn may be leading the GOP in the minority if that happens. I would take a McConnell lead majority over a Cornyn minority any day. Imagine one to two more Kagan’s or Sotomayer’s in the next two years.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

Go ahead and imagine it. Do you think the Surrender Caucus of “moderates” would hesitate to confirm any Obama nominee short of a Satanist who performed live animal sacrifice during the confirmation hearings?

McConnell is a gutless, morally-cowardly post turtle. From a pragmatic partisan view alone, he’s utterly incompetent as a caucus leader.

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Anyone who verbally attacks conservatives multiple times like McConnell has needs to be defeated by any means possible.

Grimes beating McConnell with the angry conservative minority pushing her over the top would still be sending a message that the GOP can’t just take our vote for granted and expect us to hold our noses and vote for them just because they aren’t democrats.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Conservatives in Kentucky just aren’t that angry with McConnell, and they are the ones who vote in November. His potshots were aimed at Jim DeMint and other self-appointed “national conservative leaders” who are doing nothing but making tons of money off of these nontroversies between the so-called “establishment” and “conservatives.”

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Grimes beating McConnell with the angry conservative minority pushing her over the top would still be sending a message that the GOP can’t just take our vote for granted and expect us to hold our noses and vote for them just because they aren’t democrats.

Horse pucky. The time to send a message is at the polls today. If that fails, you have to think big picture, and that is electing as many R’s as possible to stop The One.

wmichaels1 on May 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM

The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

No, that’s the definition of insanity that has been attributed to Albert Einstein.

This is the definition of stupidity.

stu·pid·i·ty
[ stoo píddətee ]

lack of intelligence: lack of intelligence, perception, or common sense
rashness or thoughtlessness: extremely rash or thoughtless behavior

Oldnuke on May 20, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Stockman wasn’t a serious candidate. He announced maybe 4 months before the primary and didn’t even run a campaign. I can’t think of anyone major who endorsed him. Even Redstate ran a piece on sticking with Cornyn. There were also many other unknown candidates on the ballot. Despite that Cornyn only received 59% of the primary vote even though he flooded the airwaves with ads touting his conservatism. That’s pretty pathetic.

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 10:39 AM

To characterize the Cornyn vote in the way you have is straight from the MSNBC Chuck Todd talking points this morning. The reason for the lack of margin is directly attributable to the low turnout. The outcome was such a forgone conclusion the only people who cared to vote were the anti-Cornyn vote. When the time comes, Cornyn will also get 59%+ in the general.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:44 AM

McConnell has done nothing to deserve my vote. I vote for a candidate because I am voting for them, not because I am voting against someone else.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Contradiction alert!

How does that jibe with you voting for Grimes? Would you be voting for Grimes because you like her? Or would you be voting against McConnell (teaching him a lesson, etc)…

Also, you could simply not vote, or, go ahead and vote Grimes… but sending her money? That’s disgusting and totally unnecessary. Kind of taking it a bit too far dontcha think?

preallocated on May 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM

You see nothing wrong with someone who calls conservatives “Stupid”?

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Conservatives who follow Heritage Action and the Senate Conservatives Fund off the cliff are stupid. Those groups are doing nothing but making money off of angry people like you.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Anyone who verbally attacks conservatives multiple times like McConnell has needs to be defeated by any means possible.

Grimes beating McConnell with the angry conservative minority pushing her over the top would still be sending a message that the GOP can’t just take our vote for granted and expect us to hold our noses and vote for them just because they aren’t democrats.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Conservatives in Kentucky just aren’t that angry with McConnell, and they are the ones who vote in November. His potshots were aimed at Jim DeMint and other self-appointed “national conservative leaders” who are doing nothing but making tons of money off of these nontroversies between the so-called “establishment” and “conservatives.”

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM

“They all stink except for MY pork-barrel prince, he’s stylish and smells minty fresh.”= the death of the Republic.

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Grimes rules and McConnell out of touch
-mj panel

cmsinaz on May 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM

You see nothing wrong with someone who calls conservatives “Stupid”?

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:38 AM

I mean – It’s not like we don’t have some really stupid conservatives doing stupid sh!t. No that’s not enough.

We’re not talking about getting rid of Peter King, John McCain, or voting to send John Huntsman to Antarctica.

As establishment guys go, McConnell is actually a really good one. Would I prefer 70 Crus/ Palin /Paul / Lee clones in the Senate? Sure. But that’s not the world we live in.

Skipity on May 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Already sent $100 to Grimes

Sometimes you have to cut the head off the snake. Beating McConnell by any means necessary, even with a DEM, is best for the long run.

If Grimes wins, then we can run a real conservative against her in 2020 who should win after Kentucky endures 6 years from her, instead of being backstabbed over and over by McConnell and he will buy his way to victory again in 2020.

I’d rather have 6 years of Grimes than 12+ more years of McConnell.

So you support baby killing then? Look I hate McConnell as much as the next guy, and I’m not going to be supporting him with my time money or vote ( I don’t live in KY) but I certainly won’t support Grimes in anyway shape or form. Not after she got Emily’s List endorsement and showed herself for the baby butcher she is.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Go ahead and imagine it. Do you think the Surrender Caucus of “moderates” would hesitate to confirm any Obama nominee short of a Satanist who performed live animal sacrifice during the confirmation hearings?

McConnell is a gutless, morally-cowardly post turtle. From a pragmatic partisan view alone, he’s utterly incompetent as a caucus leader.

ebrown2 on May 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Fine! We’ll go your way in the minority for the next two years, it’ll just give you something else to b!tch about.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Does Mitch still list his primary residence in Kentucky…?

d1carter on May 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM

So now we actually have conservatives saying they are going to vote for and send money to a pro-abortion Democrat???

McConnell Derangement Syndrome.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Does Mitch still list his primary residence in Kentucky…?

d1carter on May 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Yeah, I would really like to know when the last time he has actually spend substantial time in Kentucky was..

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Debbie W. Schultz thanks you for your mind-boggling stupidity.

Ted the Average on May 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM

The text of the bill explicitly contains an exception for when “in reasonable medical judgment, the abortion is necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself, but not including psychological or emotional conditions.”

So I guess it’s not okay to have an abortion if continuing the pregnancy would reasonably be expected to cause her to stroke and be a living vegetable for the rest of her life.

jim56 on May 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Do you people not understand that actions have consequences? If you spend Tea Party money to attack moderate senators, you only alienate them. If the Tea Party worked in conjunction with the GOP instead of constantly trying to cut them off at the knee, maybe the Karl Roves of the world wouldn’t be correct in disparaging the Tea Party as hostile to long-term conservative goals.

KingGold on May 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

If the Republicans ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THEIR OWN DAMN PLATFORM, WE WOULDN’T NEED A TEA PARTY.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

…have to agree with GFYfrog.

KOOLAID2 on May 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM

HA doesn’t endorse candidates in Elections, they lobby, idiot.

And right now they’re stopping Ex-IM bank which is a waste of funds and nothing but cronyism ( even Paul Ryan agrees with them)

HA has also stopped Denham from using our military as illegal immigrant re-education camps.

You should be happy with their work.

BUT Shutdown! you’ll probably say, an event nobody but whiny establishmentarians and Democrats even f**ing remember.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Where’s the surprise, really? McConnell built the KY GOP brick by brick.

The only big surprise was Rand Paul defeating Mitch’s handpicked puppet, Gray Treason, in 2010. Grayson was a poor candidate, Rand Paul was better than expected and the seat was already held by a very countercultural cranky incumbent, Jim Bunning.

KY is 57-37% Dem registration advantage which is why no one should get too cute there unless they prefer Harry Reid as majority leader.

In the midst of all this Tea fever, I find it most disturbing that the money and effort put into defeating McConnell in risky KY wasn’t instead directed toward defeating Miz Lindsey in safe SC. But Lindsey has a half-dozen Tea opponents nicely splitting the vote so he can cruise to victory.

Toocon on May 20, 2014 at 10:51 AM

So now we actually have conservatives saying they are going to vote for and send money to a pro-abortion Democrat???

McConnell Derangement Syndrome.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Oh stop.. It is no different than some of the National GOP throwing their hat secretly and not so secretly to the opponents of tea party candidates. There is a civil war going on in the party. You may not like it, but it is happening, and McConnell is one of the ones that has fired it up.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Already sent $100 to Grimes

Sometimes you have to cut the head off the snake. Beating McConnell by any means necessary, even with a DEM, is best for the long run.

If Grimes wins, then we can run a real conservative against her in 2020 who should win after Kentucky endures 6 years from her, instead of being backstabbed over and over by McConnell and he will buy his way to victory again in 2020.

I’d rather have 6 years of Grimes than 12+ more years of McConnell.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

I’m not a TruCon by any measure but I’m kinda tired of moderate candidates who ask me to fellate them for the sake of “party unity” and then, win or lose, make no difference whatsoever to the atmosphere of “bipartisan cooperation” in butt-pirating me with taxes, regulations, and alien invasion. I wouldn’t go as far as sending Dems any money or absentee ballots – they steal enough of those already – but a nice barbeque on the voting day instead of bothering to cast the ballot shouldn’t be out of question.

Rix on May 20, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Of course. Because the moderates always show up for conservatives after primary losses.

Not.

K. Hobbit on May 20, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Yeah, I would really like to know when the last time he has actually spend substantial time in Kentucky was..

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM

He’s in Kentucky all the time, virtually every weekend including non-election years. I’ve seen him flying in Coach to Louisville more times than I can count, and usually by himself with no entourage.

Of all the criticism I’ve seen of him, this is the dumbest. He loves Kentucky and has been a good Senator for the Commonwealth. If you don’t like him as Senate Republican leader, find somebody else to take him on and beat him. But don’t say he hasn’t worked hard for the people of Kentucky.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Horse pucky. The time to send a message is at the polls today. If that fails, you have to think big picture, and that is electing as many R’s as possible to stop The One.

wmichaels1 on May 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM

How does this benefit me as a conservative?

I am not a Republican, I am a conservative. So how is electing as many R’s as possible whether or not they are conservative, benefiting me as a conservative?

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:54 AM

So now we actually have conservatives saying they are going to vote for and send money to a pro-abortion Democrat???

McConnell Derangement Syndrome.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Declining full throated support of McConnell now equates supporting a Baby killing Dem?

Clearly unless I sell my soul to the GOP to do as they wish with it, I am secretly a dem!

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Rix on May 20, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Yeah, I think a lot of us are at that stage, and most of us aren’t trucons. We just want the GOP to start actually following their own platform, and being the opposition party.

So welcome to the trucon brigade. You will be called on whether you like it or not, because in the Trucon Screecher lexicon if you don’t vote you voted for the opponent anyways. :)

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Hot Air seems thrilled that this is a foregone conclusion.

Every post on Hot Air about the McConnell election should have had a disclaimer that they are financial contributors to his campaign.

lowandslow on May 20, 2014 at 10:54 AM

McConnell has done nothing to deserve my vote.

He successfully prevented so much as one Republican from voting for healthcare “reform,” ensuring that the ‘rats have to own it 100%.

That alone justifies keeping him.

Ted the Average on May 20, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Yup. Going to a cockfight is worse than undermining conservative principles from a position of power in D.C. Good grief. Hot Air seems thrilled that this is a foregone conclusion.

will77jeff on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Exactly. Thirty plus years of McConnell undermining the nations fiscal solvency……BUT BUT BUT DIDN’T YOU HEAR? BEVIN INADVERTENTLY SPOKE AT A COCKFIGHTING EVENT!!! OMG!!!

Bevin was a really good candidate, however when the race turns to myopic issues then you will never find your teflon god candidate.

At the end of the day, no one had any doubt that Bevin would be the more conservative senator. For that alone conservatives are fools for having voted for Mitch McConnell.

Meat Fighter on May 20, 2014 at 10:55 AM

If you don’t like him as Senate Republican leader, find somebody else to take him on and beat him.

I’d be perfectly fine with that, unfortunately McConnell’s vindictive pettiness has scared off the competition.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

McConnell has done nothing to deserve my vote. I vote for a candidate because I am voting for them, not because I am voting against someone else.

tcufrog on May 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM

I think it is a good guess on my part that a TCU Horned Frog doesn’t vote in KY? So why don’t we let the fine people of KY decide who they think will be their best GOP representative in the Senate be. Bitching about the who the folks in KY pick from your computer screen in TX, offers very little to the debate.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Oh stop.. It is no different than some of the National GOP throwing their hat secretly and not so secretly to the opponents of tea party candidates. There is a civil war going on in the party. You may not like it, but it is happening, and McConnell is one of the ones that has fired it up.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Why, because he has hit back after having rocks thrown at him? Seems like a lot of folks can dish it out but they sure can’t take it.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Of all the criticism I’ve seen of him, this is the dumbest. He loves Kentucky and has been a good Senator for the Commonwealth. If you don’t like him as Senate Republican leader, find somebody else to take him on and beat him. But don’t say he hasn’t worked hard for the people of Kentucky.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:53 AM

How in the hell is asking a question criticism? I asked the question, because he seems out of touch, and I was legitimately wanted to know. You all need to stop getting your panties in a bundle unless McConnell is your dad or something.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

I agree with tcufrog. Republicans have walked hand in hand with Democrats in destroying the country. Now, conservatives are told to stfu and vote for the Repub because…?? That’s it basically. They can’t even claim to be the Not Dem. They want amnesty. They want obamacare(their version of it). They want crony capitalism. They want massive government spending. Does it really matter which party we vote for?

Texas needs to secede.

JAGonzo on May 20, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Why, because he has hit back after having rocks thrown at him? Seems like a lot of folks can dish it out but they sure can’t take it.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Back at ya babe. McConnell should sling mud and not expect it back.. I know you have this love fest going on, but I don’t. McConnell allowed a lot of crap to get out of cloture. He sucks as an opposition party leader. You may love him for all the pork he has brought Kentucky, but he ain’t done crap for the rest of us.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Abortion takes the life of innocent human beings who are the most vulnerable in our society. Abortion is today the most frequently performed medical procedure in the United States. American physicians perform about two abortions every minute of every hour of every day: about 1 million a year since 1973. Many States permit abortion up to the moment of birth, and the state will even pay for it if the mother meets certain financial criteria.

How low have we sunk? What are the consequences of this mass slaughter? How did we get here?

We got here because of the most reprehensible and unconstitutional Supreme Court opinion in the modern era. In a throwback to its infamous Dred Scott decision—in which a pre-Civil War Supreme Court declared that blacks are not persons and hence cannot claim the protections of the Constitution—the court essentially said in Roe vs. Wade the same of fetuses in the womb.

Roe vs. Wade has spawned more slaughter than all 20th-century tyrants combined. The consequences of this slaughter are vast lost generations of human beings who were denied by the law the right to live. The economic consequences from which we all suffer today—entitlements too costly to afford and too few wage earners to pay for them—are directly attributable to the absence of population growth.

I am not arguing in favor of entitlements. The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to provide them. But when FDR and LBJ concocted their entitlement schemes in order to build permanent dependence on the Democratic Party, they understood population growth. Their understanding, too, was slaughtered by abortion. A society that prefers death to life not only cannot prosper; it cannot survive. Soon 40 percent of federal tax revenues will be dedicated to interest on the federal debt, and most of that borrowing has been to pay for entitlements. We are headed for a cliff.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on May 20, 2014 at 10:58 AM

There’s a trucon brigade?

Why am I always the last one to know these things around here?

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 10:59 AM

I’d be perfectly fine with that, unfortunately McConnell’s vindictive pettiness has scared off the competition.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Come on. If he’s so terrible and the Tea Party is so strong, why can’t he be replaced as leader? I’m actually agnostic about this. I just don’t want him out of the Senate. Maybe he has worn out his welcome with conservatives. The right move would have been to put your energies into finding someone to take him, on as Leader, not to back a clown candidate against him in a primary.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:59 AM

There’s a trucon brigade?

Why am I always the last one to know these things around here?

Bishop on May 20, 2014 at 10:59 AM

LMAO– We decided to not send you an invitation, because we know about your adoration of Joana. But yes, there is a brigade-complete with a bunker style clubhouse and Mark Levin decoder rings.

melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Tater Salad on May 20, 2014 at 10:44 AM

You’re clueless. If an election is seen as hopeless for one side it suppresses the vote of the losing candidate as much or more than the candidate who is winning. There was no grassroots enthusiasm in that primary.

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM

ATTENTION: RESIDENTS OF PENNSYLVANIA !
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Write in … Bob Guzzardi … for Republican nominee for governor.

listens2glenn on May 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM

So welcome to the trucon brigade. You will be called on whether you like it or not, because in the Trucon Screecher lexicon if you don’t vote you voted for the opponent anyways. :)melle1228 on May 20, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Yep, and you’ll be accused of supporting the Democrat.

Defend a candidate from false accusations is now equated to justifying the crime that the candidate is being falsely accused of.
Point out the NRSC doesn’t vet their own candidates like ( Monica Wehby) equates to misogyny now.

Coming from the same people who threw crap at Angle, O’Donnell, and Palin too. hypocrites the lot of them. 2016 is the last year I’ll personally invest myself in this farce, we end up with another squish he’ll probably lose, and conservatives ( in particular socons) will likely be blamed.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM

I know I am a broken record but…TERM LIMITS!!! We need to start a national movement demanding that TERM LIMITS become a priority. Almost every problem we face is because we have career politicians who don’t care what the people want. Incumbency has become the biggest deterrent to representative government. We are being ruled by 70 and 80 year olds who have spent their entire adult lives in the bubble that is Washington, DC.

fight like a girl on May 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM

I saw McConnell being interviewed and he was cool and calm and totally focused on his Democrat opponent and listed one by one how she would be awful for Kentucky. I have no fears about this new national Wendy Davis they’ll be hosting parties for in Manhattan with Anna Wintour and at Steven Spielberg’s Malibu home. VOGUE cover? Gee I wonder. Her campaign is 100 dollars richer.

Marcus on May 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Why, because he has hit back after having rocks thrown at him? Seems like a lot of folks can dish it out but they sure can’t take it.

rockmom on May 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

McConnell has been dishing it out far longer then we have. Of course you’re upset we would dare challenge him.
Can dish it out, but certainly can’t take it.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 11:04 AM

It is extremely difficult to take out an incumbent for two primary reasons: money and name recognition.

Wigglesworth on May 20, 2014 at 11:04 AM

I think the candidate thing is way over blown. You can’t possibly tell me McConnell, Boehner, Cantor, et al., were squeaky clean coming into politics. They are just better at sweeping past issues under the rug. I know I have done plenty of stupid sh!t in my life. We do need good candidates to run, but I question anyone who claims to be the proverbial “boy scout”.

JAGonzo on May 20, 2014 at 11:04 AM

We all need to line up and suck Elephant trunk according to rockmom, or else we are all supporting Dems! or being stupid! Or following Heritage Action off a cliff! or something.

MWC_RS on May 20, 2014 at 11:10 AM

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