Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on May 19, 2014 by Allahpundit

So it turns out that President Obama—that whip-smart guy who is so super-curious about everything (unlike that quitter-snowbilly former Gov. Sarah Palin amirite?)—apparently had no idea that his administration was letting veterans croak while on waiting lists for care at Veterans Affairs (V.A.) facilities. At the very least, his people knew about the waiting-list problems, including inaccurate reporting on treatment times, back in 2008.

You remember the Fast and Furious gun-walking snafu? He read about that in the papers. Same thing with NSA surveillance. And it took him a few days to realize that the Obamacare website was tripping balls but he finally started to get news reports about it after a few days. And needless to say, he didn’t have any idea that the IRS—his IRS—was targeting Tea Party groups until he read about in the papers…

If Barack Obama wants to play Chauncey Gardiner and basically act as if he has frickin’ idea of what’s going around in his White House, that’s fine by me.

But will his erstwhile defenders at least admit that either he is a know-it-all who is full of B.S. when he pleads ignorance or that he just has no clue about what’s taking place in this City on a Hill already? It’s not flattering to him whichever way you want to go. But at least it’ll be consistent.

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As controversy swirls around the Veterans Administration over deaths caused by delayed care, an investigation by the Dayton Daily News found that the VA settled many cases that appear to be related to delays in treatment.

A database of paid claims by the VA since 2001 includes 167 in which the words “delay in treatment” is used in the description. The VA paid out a total of $36.4 million to settle those claims, either voluntarily or as part of a court action.

The VA has admitted that 23 people have died because of delayed care, and is facing accusations that hospital administrators are gaming the system to conceal wait times, including using a “secret list” at the VA in Phoenix…

The number of dead veterans could total more than 1,100 from 2001 through the first half of 2013 — including 16 at the Dayton VA Medical Center and 11 at the Cincinnati VA — according to records obtained via Freedom of Information Act.

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Here’s what Carney said at the White House briefing: “The American Legion said that the group looks at Petzel’s resignation as a, quote, step towards addressing the leadership problem at the VA. So I think that undercuts the assertion that that is not a meaningful development.”

Carney went on to cite the American Legion nine times during the briefing.

In fact, the American Legion put out a statement on Friday about Dr. Petzel’s resignation saying almost exactly the opposite of what Carney suggested.

“This move by VA is not a corrective action, but a continuation of business as usual,” American Legion National Commander Daniel M. Dellinger said in a statement. “Dr. Petzel was already scheduled to retire this year, so his resignation now really won’t make that much of a difference.”

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Like all single-payer health systems around the world, the VA controls costs by imposing a “global budget” — a limit to how much it can spend on care. Thus year-to-year funding varies according to the whims of Congress, not according to what consumers want or are willing to spend.

With tens of thousands of wounded soldiers returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the demand for care is rising dramatically. Enrollment in VA services has increased by 13% from 2007 to 2012. Despite a 76% increase in expenditures ($24 billion) over that period, the program still suffers from chronic budget problems. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that it would require as much as a 75% increase in inflation-adjusted funding for the VA to treat all veterans.

When resources can’t meet demand in a given year, the VA does what other single-payer systems do: It rations

As the federal government takes over more and more of the healthcare system, there should be a lesson for us. Simply promising more healthcare does not mean delivering more healthcare. And government healthcare systems have a very poor record of delivering what they promise.

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There’s a lot to be mad about at the Department of Veterans Affairs. Michael Tanner of the Cato Institute notes that more than 344,000 claims for veterans’ care are backed up and waiting to be processed. It takes an average of 160 days for a veteran to be approved for health benefits, and the VA itself estimates that is has an error rate of at least 9 percent in processing claims. According to VA figures for 2012, as reported by the Washington Post, “a veteran who takes an appeal through all available administrative steps faces an average wait of 1,598 days.” That’s more than four years of waiting…

But, if the experience of other countries is any guide, a single-payer health-care plan or even government-managed care brings all kinds of waiting lists with it. In 2012, it was discovered that more than 7,000 patients in just a few Scottish hospitals had been wrongly removed from waiting lists for surgery in order to pretend to meet government targets for treatment. One trick was offering to perform surgery on a date when hospital officials knew a patient would be away on holiday, then dropping the patient from the wait list for “refusing” the date…

No one is suggesting that such scandals are widespread in the general health-care system. But they should serve as a warning sign of what could happen as the pressure to ration, inherent in all government-managed health care, is applied to the general population.

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Republicans are on firm ideological ground when they argue that the ACA is a step toward VA-style government-administered health care. They need only cite Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) who has said in the past that the ACA is a “step in the right direction” toward a health care delivery system that did away with insurance, a la single payer. Obama, too, has implied that the ACA should be viewed as part of an incremental adoption of the single payer system of which he is “a proponent.”…

Republicans will be accused of politicizing the outrageous claims about the VA’s treatment of vets. Good. Not only should Republicans make the VA’s problems a campaign issue, they should ignore the disingenuous scolds who will emerge from the woodwork to chide Republicans for daring to criticize the intolerable conditions America’s vets face.

Political pressure is the only way major reforms are adopted in Washington and bureaucracies shrink. The VA’s scandalous and endemic problems are worthy of politicization

When Reagan finally convinced Congress to elevate the position the VA secretary to the Cabinet in 1988, it came as something of a consolation prize. Reagan had tried, unsuccessfully, to force a Democrat-dominated Congress to privatize much of the care that Vets were receiving. Several decades later, and with the career-killing specter of the ACA hanging over many Democrats’ heads, Reagan may finally convince his political opponents to moderate their hostility toward his vision for the VA.

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Via RCP.

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Via the Daily Rushbo.


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Ratso!

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:42 PM

The Ghey Thread!

ShainS on May 19, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Bishop!

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 10:42 PM

me

coolrepublica on May 19, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Dan Patrick!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 19, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Winston.

crankyoldlady on May 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM

He’s a Jackass!

williamg on May 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM

No one is MADDER than he was when he read about it in the paper.

In 3 weeks this will be just another “phoney scandal” and there won’t be a “smidgen” of corruption in the VA.

The Most Dangerous Moron

PLEASE READ THAT ARTICLE I LINKED! You will thank me.

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM

So mad, must be another scandal he heard about in the news.

Cheese Wheel on May 19, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Winston.

crankyoldlady on May 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Is he named after the cigarettes?

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:45 PM

This will be the National Anthem of the Nation of Obamaland:

Poor Poor, Pitiful Me

As a bonus sung by the communist Linda Ronstadt.

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Whole lotta things the presnit doesn’t apparently know about. Many of them relate to Benghazi and spooks.

Here’s a fascinating article from Doug Hagmann: “Investigative Findings: Benghazi video linked to the CIA?” . Is it true? I don’t know… we’ll probably never find out. But really interesting to read.

bofh on May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM

My daughter throws better than Obama…

Doc Holliday on May 19, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Johnny Mc and Jeff Flake’s solution…appropriate more money.

d1carter on May 19, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Winston.

crankyoldlady on May 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Is he named after the cigarettes?

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Stop frackin’ teasing me!

cozmo on May 19, 2014 at 10:47 PM

A lot better…

Doc Holliday on May 19, 2014 at 10:47 PM

A song for Obamavoters:

Offspring “Why Don’t You Get a Job?”

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Dear Leader never allows shop talk on the golf course….

d1carter on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

I was going to link an Obamacare article, but I don’t know where to start…

Doc Holliday on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

My On-topic Post of the Night:

Jackson Browne – The Pretender

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Like all single-payer health systems around the world, the VA controls costs by imposing a “global budget” — a limit to how much it can spend on care.

What about bonuses for killing our vets ?
Are they built in into the VA budget or they come from another fund ?

burrata on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Stop frackin’ teasing me!

cozmo on May 19, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Winston Box is my brand…

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Ew! He reads newspapers! He’s so smart!

I hate his guts.

SouthernGent on May 19, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Doc Holliday on May 19, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Kittens bat better than zero… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Another candidate for the National Anthem of the Nation of Obamaland:

Beck “Loser”

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Ratso jumped into the shower with me this morning, heh. Bet he won’t do that again…

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:50 PM

SouthernGent on May 19, 2014 at 10:49 PM

I wonder what he’ll tell Katie Couric when she asks him what papers he reads–besides E-Z Widers, that is

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:51 PM

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:50 PM

How badly were you scratched?

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Ratso jumped into the shower with me this morning, heh. Bet he won’t do that again…

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Cats don’t often repeat mistakes. They have very good memories.

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:52 PM

“Mad as Hell” at little league, where he’s perfectly in place.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Obama got so mad about this that he hit the links.

bw222 on May 19, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Did this work?

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 10:52 PM

obama will never be fully developed, either which way you wish to take it.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 10:52 PM

How badly were you scratched?

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Luckily I wasn’t. He was busy trying like hell to get outta’ the tub…

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Animals in the Sudan

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 10:52 PM

I’ve thought he was a puddy, fully-growed, for years now.

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:53 PM

The Official LET IT BURN National Anthem:

Bloodhound Gang “Fire Water Burn”

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Jackson Browne – The Pretender

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

……That’s a Classic – but the line:

“….he started out so young and strong, only to surrender…”

is only half-true with him…..

williamg on May 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM

“Mad as Hell” at little league, where he’s perfectly in place.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Obama couldn’t hit .200 against little league pitching.

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM

By the way, on this whole VA thing, as I mentioned in an earlier thread today, no matter how bad you’ve heard it is, it is actually worse. I can attest to the miserable culture in the VA–I rotated through there for a month or two in medical school–for most who work there, it was all about collecting a check for minimal work—there were some good doctors, nurses, etc, but they were outnumbered, and the system itself punished them and rewarded the slackers. Incentives matter, and the only incentive in the VA was to maximize your pay per task done–in other words, do as little as possible for your job. Incentives matter, repeat after me, INCENTIVES MATTER.

Doc Holliday on May 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Back when we were kids, my Dear Sister was taking a bath…puddy-tat was there…puddy-tat fell off the tub ledge, on the wet side. Those scratches were DEEP!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Jackson Browne – The Pretender

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Hi Beauty! I like Jackson Browne. This is a good one.

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM

So mad he went to another fundraiser. It’s what he does after Americans die.
Benghazi
Ft. Hood 2.0
Our soldiers

Cheese Wheel on May 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM

PLEASE READ THAT ARTICLE I LINKED! You will thank me.

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Yes, thank-you.

freedomfirst on May 19, 2014 at 10:56 PM

williamg on May 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Unlike the title… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Mad as Lying like Hell.

VorDaj on May 19, 2014 at 10:57 PM

I think I’ve found a song gayer than YMCA by the Village People…

Bloodhound Gang “The Bad Touch”

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:57 PM

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM

*smooooch!* You’re a dear, Ken–I don’t care what Lineholder says about you ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Obama couldn’t hit .200 against little league pitching.

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM

In fact (having a conversation with myself here), I doubt he could bat .100 against little league pitching…

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Evening All
\\

I also liked Jackson Browne.

CoffeeLover on May 19, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Eff this two bit Azzwipe!!

Bring on the Palin quote from today. THAT is QOTD.

ToddPA on May 19, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Caught Mad as Lying like Hell.

VorDaj on May 19, 2014 at 10:57 PM

That’s what I thought

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:59 PM

CoffeeLover on May 19, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Winner? :P

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Obama lied & veterans died

portlandon on May 19, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Doc Holliday on May 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Make it home from the Battlefield and have to deal with that?

It’s sad.

wolly4321 on May 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Mötley Crüe – Dr. Feelgood

tanked59 on May 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM

ToddPA on May 19, 2014 at 10:59 PM

\m/ YES!! \m/

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM

The Official LET IT BURN National Anthem:

Bloodhound Gang “Fire Water Burn”

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM

…..which reminds me of This……

williamg on May 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Obama lied & veterans died

portlandon on May 19, 2014 at 11:00 PM

So did:

The Constitution

The Republic

Freedom

America

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Doc Holliday on May 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Hey! I came across this article earlier today and thought you would enjoy it.

lineholder on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Which Ken is Louey? Thank you.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Offspring “Why Don’t You Get a Job?”

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Being female I prefer the last verse. Just pulled it up on Sonos. Actually, I hadn’t listened to it in a while, and now that I listen to it, it’s a good anthem for Conservatives-I won’t pay, I won’t pay, no way. Why don’t you get a job?

talkingpoints on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

*smooooch!* You’re a dear, Ken–I don’t care what Lineholder says about you ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I Smooch you back. And CL while I’m at it!

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Doctor My Eyes was also one of my favorites.

CoffeeLover on May 19, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

KenInCT, Schade

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Is he named after the cigarettes?

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I never thought of that. I was thinking Churchill. Actually I just thought it sounded good. Later I found out everyone was naming their pets that.

crankyoldlady on May 19, 2014 at 11:03 PM

*smooooch!* You’re a dear, Ken–I don’t care what Lineholder says about you ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:58 PM

……Lineholder?……I heard that she is SMOKINHOT!

williamg on May 19, 2014 at 11:04 PM

VA = gov’t health = Obamacare

kcewa on May 19, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Which Ken is Louey? Thank you.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

KeninCT…

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 11:04 PM

lineholder on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Hi lineholder!

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:04 PM

But, if the experience of other countries is any guide, a single-payer health-care plan or even government-managed care brings all kinds of waiting lists with it. …


Former NHS Director Dies After Operation Is Cancelled Four Times At Her Own Hospital

Resist We Much on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

…ATONEMENT for APPLEHEAD…!!!

KOOLAID2 on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Which Ken is Louey? Thank you.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

It ain’t me!

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Stevie Nicks “Rooms On Fire”

LET IT BURN!!!

Damn, I forgot how fine she was in her prime…

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Got it, he’s KeninCT, per Bmore.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

CoffeeLover on May 19, 2014 at 11:03 PM

My favourite off “Running On Empty” was the last cut: The Load Out/Stay

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 10:58 PM

ROFL. What lineholder says it that the men folk around HA have proven to be more of a distraction than I counted on. I really need to be focusing on school more than I have been.

And that I’m not doing late nights this week. I have to study!!!!

Have fun, Newtie!

lineholder on May 19, 2014 at 11:06 PM

O’Jays – Back Stabbers

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Philly sound. That’s just soooo nang!

kcewa on May 19, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Ew! He reads newspapers! He’s so smart!

SouthernGent on May 19, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Wait, did it specifically say he “read” it in the news or heard about it in the news, like on TV or something? I’ll have to check the source. Cause I’m sure it’s totally accurate

talkingpoints on May 19, 2014 at 11:06 PM

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

haha I see you are sharing the love tonight :) ;) ….

Um, I also like Running on Empty…that title sounds like O too!!

CoffeeLover on May 19, 2014 at 11:07 PM

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Pretty much high and bye in the same breath. Not hanging around tonight.

lineholder on May 19, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Obama is a fraud wrapped in a hundred fabrications inside a thousand lies.

VorDaj on May 19, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Great live music!

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:08 PM

ToddPA on May 19, 2014 at 10:59 PM

\m/ YES!! \m/

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM

And while we’re at it, let’s add this one!

“Waterboarding is how we Baptize Terrorists”

God Damn, I love that quote. Total Smash mouth!

ToddPA on May 19, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Roy Orbison – Mystery Girl

kcewa on May 19, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Pretty much high and bye in the same breath. Not hanging around tonight.

lineholder on May 19, 2014 at 11:07 PM

*Frowns*

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Games People Play – Spinners

tanked59 on May 19, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Resist We Much on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

That is so sad, Sophie! It’s also reprehensible, unconscionable, and and I’m running out of -ibles!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:10 PM

lineholder on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

YEP, I read that one! Most amazing part is the stupid unions STILL trying to undercut that type of reform. Amazing, just amazing.

Scroll back up a bit and read RWM article about the NHS lady dying in her own hospital after her surgery was delayed 4 times…a sad bit of irony there. Stories like that are all to common from NHS…

Doc Holliday on May 19, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Listened to 52 secs of Carney, did not say read. Learned about it from network news reports. Nothing to suggest Obama reads any newspapers.

talkingpoints on May 19, 2014 at 11:11 PM

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:09 PM

I’m sorry, but I fell behind last week, so I’m playing catch up this week.

I’ll be around sometime during the week. ;-)

lineholder on May 19, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Which Ken is Louey? Thank you.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2014 at 11:02 PM

It ain’t me!

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

“It Ain’t Me, Babe……”

williamg on May 19, 2014 at 11:12 PM

lineholder on May 19, 2014 at 11:06 PM

God Bless the HA Calendar Guys! Niters and sleep well, LH!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Nothing to suggest Obama reads any newspapers.

talkingpoints on May 19, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Golly. His sit-down time in the widdle boy’s room must be SO boring…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 19, 2014 at 11:14 PM

The Democrat Party Anthem

Fleetwood Mac “Little Lies”

Something that doesn’t exist anymore… An actual POP BAND… Fleetwood Mac was so awesome. And Christine McVie’s voice is irreplaceable.

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 11:14 PM

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