By the way, Toyota peaced out of California, took thousands of jobs to Texas

posted at 9:41 pm on May 19, 2014 by Mary Katharine Ham

California’s loss, yikes:

—a corporate HQ for a multinational company
—3,000 jobs in marketing and finance
—2-million-sqft office complex, orphaned
—$473 million in property taxes
—A 57-year corporate citizen of Southern California
—2 international car manufacturers in less than 10 years

This happened in late April, but is worth expounding upon a little: (Ed previously posted local coverage and commentary on the move)

The shift, announced Monday, is part of a strategy to consolidate corporate management on one campus near the company’s Southern manufacturing hubs. It marks the second high-profile move of a major automaker from Southern California. Nissan moved its U.S. headquarters from Gardena to a Nashville suburb in 2006.

Some observers and California officials seized on the announcement to criticize what they said is California’s business climate for high taxes and onerous regulations. But Toyota officials said the move to a Dallas suburb had nothing to do with cost-cutting and everything to do with fostering efficiency and collaboration.


The mayor of Torrance is a little clearer on why this move is happening than Toyota is willing to be:

Frank Scotto, Torrance’s mayor, said he had no warning of Toyota’s decision. He said he did know that the automaker planned a corporate announcement for Monday.

“When any major corporation is courted by another state, it’s very difficult to combat that,” Scotto said. “We don’t have the tools we need to keep major corporations here.”

The mayor said businesses bear higher costs in California for workers’ compensation and liability insurance, among other expenses.

“A company can easily see where it would benefit by relocating someplace else,” Scotto said.

Toyota is offering all the employees in Torrance the opportunity to move to Plano, Texas and keep their jobs, with a visit and relocation paid for by the company. The company, of course, doesn’t want to trumpet the financial benefits of a move even while it seems to be offering generous terms to its employees caught up in the change. Instead, it claims the move is to increase efficiency by putting its headquarters where 75 percent of its vehicles are made— in the South. And, why pray tell, are 75 percent of their cars made in the South?

As the L.A. Times noted when reporting this story, that’s a pretty significant regional shift over the past 60 years:

The U.S. branch picked Los Angeles for its first headquarters because of proximity to the port complex — where it imported cars — and easy airline access to Tokyo. As Toyota grew, it opened its national sales and marketing headquarters in Torrance in 1982. The complex, built where its parts distribution warehouse was once located, now has 2 million square feet of office space.

But today, about 75% of the Toyota branded vehicles sold in the U.S. are built in America — many of them at plants in Texas, Mississippi and Kentucky.

Whatever could it be that’s bringing this part of the country? Hint: It ain’t just Rick Perry’s smile.

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Forget being a ghost town, we’ll be a ghost state. Well, except for the illegals, then what taxes will pay for them?

31giddyup on May 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Cali continues its march toward Utopia.

Bishop on May 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Whatever could it be that’s bringing this part of the country? Hint: It ain’t just Rick Perry’s smile

Maybe it’s the corporate welfare perry is dishing out?

themuppet on May 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Awesome for TX…

OmahaConservative on May 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Aw, come on, Toyota. Just spike the ball already and get it over with. Saying the south has a better business climate would be like saying Rock Hudson was gay! Everybody knew it, just no one wanted to say that out-loud either. LOL

gryphon202 on May 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Bring the company. Don’t bring the Libs.

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Maybe it’s the corporate welfare perry is dishing out?

themuppet on May 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Lower taxes aren’t corporate welfare. One could just as easily argue that California forced the move far more than Perry enabled it.

gryphon202 on May 19, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Wait, this is a good thing — and a good start — for Kalifonia, right?

Exhibit 1 of many:

. Less human viruses running around spewing evil carbon dioxide greenhouse gases …

ShainS on May 19, 2014 at 9:50 PM

Bring the company. Don’t bring the Libs.

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Probably won’t happen…/

BigWyo on May 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM

Toyota is offering all the employees in Torrance the opportunity to move to Plano, Texas and keep their jobs, with a visit and relocation paid for by the company.

Texans better hope they don’t come, because those blue state values are going to come with them.

Exit question: Is this is a corporate plot to turn red states purple and then eventually blue.

Ibanez Lotus on May 19, 2014 at 9:52 PM

But Toyota officials said the move to a Dallas suburb had nothing to do with cost-cutting and everything to do with fostering efficiency and collaboration.

Contradiction.

Count to 10 on May 19, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Rick Perry! Rick Perry!

gophergirl on May 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Forget being a ghost town, we’ll be a ghost state. Well, except for the illegals, then what taxes will pay for them?

31giddyup on May 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

What happens when California runs out of money to pay the police, firemen, garbage collection? To fill the EBT cards?

Conservatives in CA, you all need to get out while the getting is good.

Rebar on May 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

“When any major corporation is courted by another state, it’s very difficult to combat that,” Scotto said. “We don’t have the tools we need to keep major corporations here.”

…but you do!… have a major tool!…his name is Jerry Brown!

KOOLAID2 on May 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

We know already. Report on Monica Wehby’s stalker allegations please. That is certainly more relevant and timely.

will77jeff on May 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Leave the Libtards in CA!

Charlemagne on May 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Lower taxes aren’t corporate welfare. One could just as easily argue that California forced the move far more than Perry enabled it.

Texas to pay 10k for each Toyota job

themuppet on May 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Leave the Libtards in CA!

Charlemagne on May 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Exactly!

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

KCB:

I agree with you 100%. They should leave all the libturds behind to rot in their clogged sewer of a state. Hopefully Moonbeam will find jobs for them in his $100 BILLION boondogle……if it EVER gets of the ground. It could serve as a lesson: libturd policies=less jobs!!!!

conservative hispanic on May 19, 2014 at 9:55 PM

The New Mobility…

Electrongod on May 19, 2014 at 9:56 PM

California’s loss, yikes:

—a corporate HQ for a multinational company
—3,000 jobs in marketing and finance
—2-million-sqft office complex, orphaned
—$473 million in property taxes
—A 57-year corporate citizen of Southern California
—2 international car manufacturers in less than 10 years

Governor Brown’s response? WINNING!

Jobs that won’t be submerged by global warming!!!

Happy Nomad on May 19, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Peaced out?

bluegill on May 19, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Toyota is offering all the employees in Torrance the opportunity to move to Plano, Texas and keep their jobs, with a visit and relocation paid for by the company.

Texans better hope they don’t come, because those blue state values are going to come with them.

Exit question: Is this is a corporate plot to turn red states purple and then eventually blue.

Ibanez Lotus on May 19, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Amen – my thoughts exactly.

Shay on May 19, 2014 at 9:57 PM

Maybe it’s the corporate welfare perry is dishing out?

themuppet on May 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Toyota should have moved to the state of Cuomo
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/gov_cuomo_formally_launches_new_yorks_tax-free_zones.html

burrata on May 19, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Note to the CA employees who are thinking about relocating: I don’t think they allow vegetarians in the state of Texas. :-)

Fogpig on May 19, 2014 at 9:58 PM

The thing is, those people being offered jobs in Texas probably won’t leave California. They haven’t figured out that it’s better for them. ha ha ha.

COgirl on May 19, 2014 at 9:59 PM

What happens when California runs out of money to pay the police, firemen, garbage collection? To fill the EBT cards?

Conservatives in CA, you all need to get out while the getting is good.

Rebar on May 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Police departments are already running on fumes.

31giddyup on May 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

Automotive News carried the story of Nissan employee who moved from California to Tennessee in 2006. Sold a 1,200 sq. ft. house in SoCal, bought a 3,200 sq. ft. house in Tennessee and had money left over.

bw222 on May 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

If the employees visit Plano during the summer heat, half of them will choose to remain in Cali and collect unemployment.

Labamigo on May 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Isn’t it interesting how little reporting there was on Pratt & Whitney’s departure from California? Toyota couldn’t be covered up by the state media but they’re burying the news about P&W.

Django on May 19, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Automotive News carried the story of Nissan employee who moved from California to Tennessee in 2006. Sold a 1,200 sq. ft. house in SoCal, bought a 3,200 sq. ft. house in Tennessee and had money left over.

bw222 on May 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

Same here.

We escaped from SoCal last year to Northern AZ. Sold our 1,300 sq. ft. house with a-hole (loud, inconsiderate, all-night partying) neighbors and bought a 3,600 sq. ft. home on a very quiet 3/4 acre parcel — and had money left over.

We also brought our conservative values to this relatively conservative area, which happens to have the nice additional benefit of lots of ex-vets … so we feel much safer in anticipation of the expected/eventual economic collapse.

ShainS on May 19, 2014 at 10:09 PM

I think about 65% will take the move. I think only 43-50% took the move when nissan moved. With the economy worse, more will chose to move.

uatu1878 on May 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Darn it, now Gov Moonbeam won’t get his train under budget!

Vanceone on May 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Lower taxes aren’t corporate welfare. One could just as easily argue that California forced the move far more than Perry enabled it.

Texas to pay 10k for each Toyota job

themuppet on May 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

And how long will it take for them to make that up in increased economic activity in the state? One year? Two? How much will Toyota spend on their new headquarters? Generate in home sales for their relocating employees? Contibute in spending to the economy of Texas? If it’s 3000 jobs at $40,000 (rough annual salary) each, that’s $120,000,000 more into the Texas economy EACH YEAR! Sounds like a pretty good deal for Texas.

talkingpoints on May 19, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Where do people in california think money comes from? Libs love to sneer at business since it is messy and unseemly. but they forget it is the poor slobs working in the trenches that pay for all the culture and public works that libs love to tout as evidence of their superior intellect and taste. they love to enjoy all the fruits but disparage the labor as if there is no symbiosis between the two. Hence spoiled brat college students and academics think they are smarter than everyone else and do not understand that they have no status if the tax revenue does not roll in. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

warmairfan on May 19, 2014 at 10:16 PM

The most wonderful thing about 50 states is that if one of .em screws you, you have 49 other options.

California is employing the same formula utilized by other heavy tax states such as New York, Illinois, Michigan, Pa., NJ etc. The theme is wearyingly similar. Democratic politicians attract illegals and other jobless leeches to their states in order to fortify voting bases. In return Democratic politicians pick the pockets of job holders in order to pay for food stamps, free housing and new jail cells for their incoming voters. At some point, to escape oppressive taxes, deteriorating services and infrastructure and skyrocketing crime,responsible citizens do their voting with their feet and move!!!!

MaiDee on May 19, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Toyota should have moved to the state of Cuomo
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/gov_cuomo_formally_launches_new_yorks_tax-free_zones.html

burrata on May 19, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Not sure what your point is, burrata. Municipalities all over the country, and by this I mean your local city/county, not just your state, have wielded the tax-free arrow for years.

It is ubiquitous for planners to offer 10-year tax abatements as tradeoff for much more significant civic and economic gains.

Cuomo can’t be singled out for that.

RushBaby on May 19, 2014 at 10:19 PM

If they choose to move here, can they please refrain from voting for a couple of years? It usually takes liberals a few years to realize why Texas is so great.

lonestar1 on May 19, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Lower taxes aren’t corporate welfare. One could just as easily argue that California forced the move far more than Perry enabled it.

gryphon202 on May 19, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Anything not owned by govt is corporate welfare. /f*cktard libs.

nobar on May 19, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Labamigo on May 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Only the liberal wimps.

That’s how God intended it.

cozmo on May 19, 2014 at 10:31 PM

So goes California, so goes the rest of America a decade later.

California is going to be the first place where the economy COMPLETELY collapses with no hope of revival. Self inflicted…

The movie industry is also quietly moving out as well… Next will be tech. All it will take is one more dip into recession to turn your Googles and Apples into big money losers, with their California location being a clear LIABILITY. Sure they are getting away with laundering a lot of money outside the state now, but you know that when Sacramento TRULY gets desperate, they WILL be gone after with a VENGEANCE.

Eventually the shareholders of those companies will DEMAND they leave that state, and if their current leadership won’t, they will have new boards and CEO’s that WILL…

ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:32 PM

Starve libwits.

Murphy9 on May 19, 2014 at 10:33 PM

talkingpoints on May 19, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Thank ya. Beat me to it.

Note to the CA employees who are thinking about relocating: I don’t think they allow vegetarians in the state of Texas. :-)

Fogpig on May 19, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Yeah, we do. They just have to learn to love the hot sauce we put on it prior to serving. :)
Personally, I luv the stuff. (^^)

avagreen on May 19, 2014 at 10:38 PM

MaiDee on May 19, 2014 at 10:17 PM

And, if immigration reform (amnesty) passes that will be the case in the whole country. What then?

tngmv on May 19, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Democratic politicians attract illegals and other jobless leeches to their states in order to fortify voting bases. In return Democratic politicians pick the pockets of job holders in order to pay for food stamps, free housing and new jail cells for their incoming voters.\
MaiDee on May 19, 2014 at 10:17 PM

This is why Democrats need to federalize everything. They need to get their leech dollars from the workers of other states

To avoid the new federalization, corporations are beginning to move out of the US. Pfizer, our largest drug company, bought a UK drug company, and is moving to the UK thus saving 1 billion a year in US taxes

Unless we change course, this will replace jumping states. Amnesty will not stop this trend. Amnesty just opens up lower end jobs like retail to green carders for a few years before they too become expensive, and of course their offspring will be as expensive as currently unemployed citizens.

America will be 3rd world. Rich globalists will have their enclaves. Plenty of unemployed to be maids, gardeners, and sex toys. The underpaid masses will be sold inferior garbage made elsewhere at prices set to just barely gouge their feeble incomes, and the only military needed will be the federal police with armored jeeps, and drones to control the rabble. It is coming

entagor on May 19, 2014 at 10:47 PM

One of too many to count. Kalifornia is a total cesspool from a business perspective. A Marxist, Communist, union dominated and controlled, cesspool.

Meople on May 19, 2014 at 10:51 PM

All these failing blue states are like ghost ships filled with rats carrying the plague (and dead sailors killed by the rats). The rats jump ship and swim to shore. YOUR SHORE (i.e. your state), and they’ll be carrying the same disease with them that wiped out their last residence.

It’s already happening in parts of Texas. Progressives never learn.

xNavigator on May 19, 2014 at 10:56 PM

God Bless Texas

workingclass artist on May 19, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Bring the company. Don’t bring the Libs.

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Hopefully, this will not be a repeat of what happened to Austin.

stvnscott on May 19, 2014 at 11:07 PM

The California Libs and amnesty hoards will blue the great state of Texas. the Tennessee Vols will be there again at the Alamo

I am not a racist on May 19, 2014 at 11:25 PM

No worries! Moonbeam still wants his Bullet Train.

GarandFan on May 19, 2014 at 11:28 PM

This is why the Japanese PM said he (and Japanese) likes red states more than blue states..he also said he hopes the next president is not a Democrat. So do we…so do we…

William Eaton on May 19, 2014 at 11:32 PM

The key for conservatives is to wait until the leftist have messed things up so bad in a state that everyone leaves…then we just move back on in.

So states like California, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Illinois for instance will be bright red 50 years from now after they go super nova. What is the old saying…buy low and sell high. Progressive types always buy high. They need other people’s wealth to take care of their useless degrees and jobs. So they will flee to Texas to ruin that state, but that means they are no longer in California.

Look at it this way…our pioneer ancestors made something out of wilderness…and we can do it again.

William Eaton on May 19, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Maybe California should build an iron fence to keep businesses in.

tdarrington on May 19, 2014 at 11:51 PM

William Eaton on May 19, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Cali will get a federal bailout. Count on it.

tdarrington on May 19, 2014 at 11:53 PM

The only folks left in California will be the illegal immigrants, gang bangers and government workers.
Since the government workers will not allow themselves to be taxed and the gang bangers don’t pay taxes as they are criminals the illegals will get taxed.
They will leave and the state will become CaliforniaSSR after the gang bangers are put in the gulag aka the California Correctional System.

Hollywood liberals? They’ll move to Belgium like that French actor with the B-52-sized nose.

Bubba Redneck on May 20, 2014 at 12:10 AM

I dig the shift out of Cali but Northern Kentucky (and the neighboring Cincinnati metro area) took a 1000+ job hit.

vinman on May 20, 2014 at 12:10 AM

…then what taxes will pay for them?

31giddyup on May 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

May be time for that Hollywood tax the Professor is always talking about.

Willys on May 20, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Yeah, we do. They just have to learn to love the hot sauce we put on it prior to serving. :)
Personally, I luv the stuff. (^^)

avagreen on May 19, 2014 at 10:38 PM

True story. I worked for a couple of months at a nuke plant in Wisconsin. They had a roach coach type thing for lunch. I picked up a fish sandwich one day and asked the clerk for some hot sauce. Lots of folks from our Southern plants transplanted to Wisc. during this period. The clerk rummaged around and finally asked the boss lady if there was any hot sauce. Boss lady said “Oh ya, we keep it around fer ‘em sutherners, donchaknow.” I about broke up laughing and asked if I could get a moon pie and a R-O-C cola too. She just gave me a blank stare. Couple of ‘em Sutherners further back started chortling.

Oldnuke on May 20, 2014 at 12:46 AM

California’s loss, yikes:

—a corporate HQ for a multinational company
—3,000 jobs in marketing and finance
—2-million-sqft office complex, orphaned
—$473 million in property taxes
—A 57-year corporate citizen of Southern California
—2 international car manufacturers in less than 10 years

And California and Brown with a balanced budget……

itsspideyman on May 20, 2014 at 1:18 AM

The California Libs and amnesty hoards will blue the great state of Texas.
I am not a racist on May 19, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Yep. Sad.

bluegill on May 20, 2014 at 1:52 AM

The CA legislature may be passing legislation that basically bans shooting Porn in CA. That whole industry is packing up and leaving too. Not the greatest industry for sure, but I would guess it brings in several hundred million to CA.

The real question is – what business would move or expand in CA. Who, except for the State, will Torrence fill a 2 Million SF Office park.

Jay Galt on May 20, 2014 at 3:27 AM

The idiots in CA will never get it. The State Legislature is meeting now trying to figure out how much to raise taxes to make up for Toyotas move. Some years ago I was on a team for a medium sized company looking to open a new manufacturing facility.

When we met with the CA people they had the attitude that because the state was so lovely we should want to move there. Our study found that just the increase in workers comp insurance would make it impossible for us to open there and be competitive. In a State that basically dishes out lawsuit payments like candy it has become a huge expense. States in the South couldnt do enough to help us. We opened a nice size plant in NC – 600 employees and CA never even called us to follow up. I hope the liberals there are the last people standing when the state goes belly up. It is remarkable how blind they are.

iam7545 on May 20, 2014 at 5:43 AM

California; from brownout king to camryout wallflower.

Don L on May 20, 2014 at 5:56 AM

Republicans built the industrial north.

The democrats caused the south to rot.

Now that the republicans have the south and the democrats have the north we see a steady reversal.

The north rots.

And the south is increasingly industrialized…

The changes go deeper then that. But its fun to note that everything the democrats touch turns to rot.

Karmashock on May 20, 2014 at 6:47 AM

Don’t mess.

Ted the Average on May 20, 2014 at 6:56 AM

The movie industry is also quietly moving out as well… Next will be tech. All it will take is one more dip into recession to turn your Googles and Apples into big money losers, with their California location being a clear LIABILITY.
ConstantineXI on May 19, 2014 at 10:32 PM

Apple and Samsung already have considerable presence in Texas; it wouldn’t take too much of a push for them to expand operations. Apple planned a new headquarters in Ca; perhaps they need to re-think that plan.

mad scientist on May 20, 2014 at 7:06 AM

who was it that advised businesses/factories to build their operations on a barge. So that when conditions get so bad in the present location, you just float the operation to a new, more favorable location? Who came up with that concept? I think Jack Welch.

Darvin Dowdy on May 20, 2014 at 7:10 AM

Bring the company. Don’t bring the Libs.

KCB on May 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Their coming to my county. This county is so red they’ll feel like Republicans in NYC. They won’t have much of an effect on local elections.

Grammar Nazi on May 20, 2014 at 7:23 AM

After the NLRB dinged Boeing for opening an assy olant in non -union SC to start the move away from perpetually striking Union ‘machinists’, of course Toyota is never going to admit why they moved from Uber-taxed Kalifornia to freedom-loving ?Texas!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Suck it, Moonbeam.

Tard on May 20, 2014 at 7:42 AM

I guess nobody told Toyota about I-35?

TexasDan on May 20, 2014 at 8:19 AM

Being in the Dallas area, I used to like these moves. Now, I’m sick of them.

It’s getting too crowded here.

Deafdog on May 20, 2014 at 8:38 AM

California will just raise the rates and taxes into and out of their ports.

Connecticut on May 20, 2014 at 9:16 AM

A little less gold in them thar hills.

TimBuk3 on May 20, 2014 at 9:19 AM

I hope the Toyota (or Texas taxpayer) underwritten “visit” to Texas will occur in the middle of August – hopefully the brutal and oppressive heat and humidity will convince the weaker among them to stay behind and sponge off of what is left of California’s unemployment bonanza.

Reuben Hick on May 20, 2014 at 9:23 AM

[business] climate change…

mjbrooks3 on May 20, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Well, to be fair, they haven’t peaced out yet. They haven’t even broken ground on the property in Plano, and the property sale hasn’t even closed. They’re buying property owned by JCPenney that’s adjacent to their campus, and the developer is rumored to be KDC. I just looked on the Collin CAD site, and it shows no real property owned by Toyota, and no sizeable parcels owned by KDC.

I’m not saying it won’t happen, just that it’s over three years away. Me, I can’t wait – I’m hoping they’ll move their museum here.

Ward Cleaver on May 20, 2014 at 9:39 AM

I guess nobody told Toyota about I-35?

TexasDan on May 20, 2014 at 8:19 AM

They’ll have a straight shot down 121 to the airport. They shouldn’t have to worry about I-35.

Ward Cleaver on May 20, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Being in the Dallas area, I used to like these moves. Now, I’m sick of them.

It’s getting too crowded here.

Deafdog on May 20, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Yeah, some places the traffic is murder. Just try driving from Plano through Murphy on FM544 now. Yikes.

Ward Cleaver on May 20, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Toyota moves – Clippers stay.

Wade on May 20, 2014 at 9:42 AM

And, why pray tell, are 75 percent of their cars made in the South?

Well, they gave up on the NUMMI plant in Fremont, because of the UAW.

Ward Cleaver on May 20, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Most will not move. They can not sell their homes at a good price.

WillNV on May 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Toyota also moved their operations from Kentucky to Texas the same week.

Mr. Bingley on May 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

I live in the D/FW area of Texas and while we are thrilled that Toyota is moving to Plano we want to caution those from Torrence, CA that are going to be moving here. We will welcome you with open arms but if you go around spouting off about how much better it was in Cali, if you drive around with Obama stickers on your cars, if you lament the fact that this is a blood red state you will be in for a surprise when we get up in your face about it. We don’t appreciate y’all bringing your stupid with you. Just sayin

To Toyota, welcome to Texas. You’re going to like it here.

neyney on May 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

What happens when California runs out of money to pay the police, firemen, garbage collection? To fill the EBT cards?

Conservatives in CA, you all need to get out while the getting is good.

Rebar on May 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

See Detroit

neyney on May 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

“…To avoid the new federalization, corporations are beginning to move out of the US…”
entagor on May 19, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Beginning? In the Spring of ’07 – after the Reid/Pelosi Dems took control of Congress – Halliburton announced its relocation from Houston to Dubai, “to be nearer its primary customers”. Halliburton was founded in 1919 in Dallas TX.

Another Drew on May 20, 2014 at 12:22 PM

moon pie and a R-O-C cola too. .
Oldnuke on May 20, 2014 at 12:46 AM

Good times.

Are either of these still around? I think I found a moon pie some years ago……about the size of a large quarter. Ugh!

ROC….”Royal Crown Cola and moon pies were a popular “working man’s lunch” in the American South.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC_Cola

avagreen on May 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

neyney on May 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Tell it, sistuh!

avagreen on May 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM

The leftist politicians take whatever they want from whoever they want in one party blue states like California, then tell their low info voters that the people they just robbed are greedy while buying those votes (cheap).

Just how long did those idiots think Toyota was going to put up with this? If I’m going to be forced to supply a living for moochers, I should be thanked, not vilified.

Left California 20 years ago this year. Never looked back.

runawayyyy on May 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Yeah, we do. They just have to learn to love the hot sauce we put on it prior to serving. :)
Personally, I luv the stuff. (^^)

avagreen on May 19, 2014 at 10:38 PM

These guys coming from the Torrance area won’t have a problem with the concept of hot sauce, they’re just going to miss the Tapatio and Cholula.

JadeNYU on May 20, 2014 at 4:38 PM

California is like the crazy cat lady. She fills her house with feral cats and then bankrupts herself trying to take care of them. The money runs out and the cat lady freezes in the winter and the cats she took care of EAT HER.

Kuffar on May 20, 2014 at 5:06 PM

With a price tag of $473 million for property taxes alone (annually?! cumulatively?!) you’d have to be room temperature, or a Lefty, to not figure you could do better.

ronco on May 20, 2014 at 5:42 PM

i have heard , not officially , that northrop corp is moving it’s operations from
kalifornia to florida by 2017. wonder what goes into effect in 2017 that makes them move. in the past 25 years policies in the peoples republik of Kalifornia have cost nearly a half million jobs be tween aerospace and automotive moving out. these were all decnt paying jobs and provided excellent health care options. get rid of the super majority of democrats and hope the state turns itself around.

bilker on May 21, 2014 at 12:57 PM