CA Gov. Brown: These early wildfires are pretty much due to climate change, you know

posted at 6:31 pm on May 18, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

Like every other self-aggrandizing environmentalist who isn’t partial to entertaining questions that could possibly challenge the green gospel, California Gov. Jerry Brown seized the opportunity to stress the all-consuming, catastrophic imminence of climate change on ABC’s This Week this morning:

It is true that there’s virtually no Republican who accepts the science that virtually is unanimous. I mean, there is no scientific question. There’s just political denial for various reasons, best known to those people who are in denial. … But, you know, we live in a world that is not just government or not just business. It’s natural, the natural systems. As we send billions and billions of tons of heat-trapping gases, we get heat and we get fires and we get what we’re seeing. So, we’ve got to gear up. We’re going to deal with nature as best we can, but humanity is on a collision course with nature and we’re just going to have to adapt to it in the best way we can.

Brown does mention one of the most ragingly responsible factors for California’s early fire season — a growing and spreading population, increased industrial and commercial activity, and straight-up arson — as well as the importance of carefully cultivating wildfire preparedness and adaptation. What he neglects to mention, as do most environmentalists, is the possibility that the environmentalist-sponsored policies that governed much of the arid West for decades created ideal conditions to dry out ecosystems. California has its own individual conditions to deal with, but as ever with the progressive set, the overwhelming cause must be climate change, about which, according to Brown, “there is no scientific question” because the science is “virtually unanimous” and Republicans are the only one who don’t absolutely accept it. …Oh, wait, check it out — I found a possible scientific question!

As firefighters struggle to contain the wind-fueled blazes, meteorologists and scientists say the fires could signal an especially active fire season for Southern California, fed by the wind, above-normal temperatures and tinder-dry vegetation.

But it’s not clear if the fires represent a new normal for expanded fire seasons, which typically start in summer, as it’s impossible to tie specific weather and fire events to climate change.

“What we’re seeing right now is just a real anomaly,” said Norman Miller, an expert in regional climate and hydrology at the University of California, Berkeley. “Whether it’s part of natural variability or climate change, we need to have a longer record of occurrences so we can construct a trend and make sense out of it.” …

Miller, for his part, has run computer models predicting that climate change could extend the traditionally October to November Santa Ana season, with increasing winds in December and January. But that still wouldn’t explain why they’ve come in May this year. …

“We’re fire prone almost every year,” he said. “It doesn’t mean we’re not linked to climate change. It’s just a more complex set of ecosystems.”


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Miss Lamar

Schadenfreude on May 18, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Well I guess technically the arsonist could have been driven by ‘Global Warming’ to intentionally set those fires.

Yeah right, who am I f’in kidding.

reddevil on May 18, 2014 at 7:47 PM

reddevil: Me thinks, yur on to sumpins!:)

canopfor on May 18, 2014 at 7:57 PM

When I was a little kid, my favorite show on TV was Emergency!. In February 1972, Season 1 Episode 4 aired. What was the title of that Episode? BRUSHFIRE

Yes, TV did a whole episode on a MAJOR Brushfire burning in LA County. Amazing how nothing has changed. California still has fires. I just popped that episode in again; I’m willing to bet the words ‘Climate Change’, ‘Global Warming’ or ‘Al Gore’ will NOT make an appearance.

reddevil on May 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Those birds that solar arrays fry taste just like chicken.

kenny on May 18, 2014 at 8:36 PM

HEY ERIKA!

Where was the “trigger alert” for this piece?! Dang – I got upset. My Sunday is ruined.

Chuck Ef on May 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Didn’t they already link this to ARSON? Instead of wah wahing over the cost to fight these fires, just transfer some of that stupid train to nowhere money and use that for the real good of the people of CA, you doofus guv. Damn, these tree hugging, agw hoax believers are so stupid.

Kissmygrits on May 18, 2014 at 9:00 PM

The first thing you learn, when you go to the natural history museum in Balboa Park in San Diego, is that Southern California is a natural desert. All the Palm Trees and mostof the landscaping has been brought in. With an average rainfall of 14 inches per year, there’s not a lot there to stop wildfires. This is historical and people like Governor Brown want to blame global warming. The only thing that proves is, with Democrats, it’s all politics, all the time and, when they open their mouths, it’s more than likely a lie will come out.

bflat879 on May 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

canopfor on May 18, 2014 at 7:57 PM

When I was a little kid, my favorite show on TV was Emergency!. In February 1972, Season 1 Episode 4 aired. What was the title of that Episode? BRUSHFIRE

Yes, TV did a whole episode on a MAJOR Brushfire burning in LA County. Amazing how nothing has changed. California still has fires. I just popped that episode in again; I’m willing to bet the words ‘Climate Change’, ‘Global Warming’ or ‘Al Gore’ will NOT make an appearance.

reddevil on May 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

reddevil: I hear ya,..I remember that show:)

canopfor on May 18, 2014 at 9:26 PM

When I was a little kid, my favorite show on TV was Emergency!. In February 1972, Season 1 Episode 4 aired. What was the title of that Episode? BRUSHFIRE

Yes, TV did a whole episode on a MAJOR Brushfire burning in LA County. Amazing how nothing has changed. California still has fires. I just popped that episode in again; I’m willing to bet the words ‘Climate Change’, ‘Global Warming’ or ‘Al Gore’ will NOT make an appearance.

reddevil on May 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

And for our non-math major Democrats, that episode was made 42 years ago.

Another example? 20 years ago (1994) some friends and I saw the legendary LA comedy group Firesign Theatre live on what would turn out to be their one and only major national reunion tour. They did the classic album stuff live on stage, using vintage radio studio microphones and a table full of sound effects equipment (including the classic coconut shells for the horse clip-clops)

And they reworked the scripts to make the material current. On the night we saw them in Boston, they wove those same Southern California wildfires into the opening monologue for “Nick Danger, Third Eye”.

Jerry Moonbeam should have known that, he’s been a Bozo for decades!

Del Dolemonte on May 18, 2014 at 9:36 PM

Did he say “billions and billions of tons” or is that a typo?

At least in San Diego, one of the major factors is that it has been several years since we’ve had a bad fire year.

exhelodrvr on May 18, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Of course, whatever you think about him as a politician, he was “climate changing” Linda Ronstadt back in the day! You have to give him credit for that!!

exhelodrvr on May 18, 2014 at 9:48 PM

New ammo :

http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/

See new thread there on Shollenberg who got hold of Cook’s research on the 97% deal. Then he got this letter from Cook’s University of Queensland Au. “We will sue if you release the data you “hacked”. He did not hack it.

Now he has told them, “If you do not tell me why I should not release, I will release the data.
Clear it is to many they will not sue him nor will they tell him why.

So the method of the fraud of the 97% shown and used by the Mike Mann’s , Obama, the msm hacks and other assorted U.N. enablers of crime will be out there for all to see.

Pop Corn time soon.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 18, 2014 at 9:50 PM

Jerry didn’t earn the title “Governor Moonbeam” for nothing. He’s an idiot.

I don’t watch ABC News clips but – let me guess – no one from This Week bothered to correct him, did they? To mention that none of the actual scientists, including those who believe in AGW, think that daily climate in localized regions has anything at all to do with it?

Nah, why would they mention that?

See, if they wanted me to watch their show, some panelist interviewing Brown would have brought that up, that he was just lying his stupid butt off. Guess they were too busy kissing it.

Adjoran on May 18, 2014 at 9:54 PM

While it may not directly affect these particular fires, a major cause of increased number and scope of wildfires on public lands is federal regulations stopping logging and public access, which activities tend to create fire breaks.

Public lands are held by the feds for the benefit of the public, they are NOT “owned” by the government. Now they are managed according to the whims of environmentalist nuts and self-important bureaucrats, not for public use and benefit.

That’s the real point of the Bundy grazing dispute. The cows don’t hurt the land OR the tortoise, and there was nothing being done with the land anyway. BLM just wanted to put all the ranchers out of business, and they succeeded until the very last one decided to make a stand.

Adjoran on May 18, 2014 at 9:58 PM

El calentamiento global es el culpable de los incendios forestales.

Fixed it for Moonbeam. Worth another 1,000,000 illegal votes for the Dems.

Goodie on May 18, 2014 at 9:59 PM

“What we’re seeing right now is just a real anomaly,” said Norman Miller, an expert in regional climate and hydrology at the University of California, Berkeley. “Whether it’s part of natural variability or climate change, we need to have a longer record of occurrences so we can construct a trend and make sense out of it.”

What? Empirical data’s for sissies. Better to pull some numbers out of our rears.

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Lolo on May 18, 2014 at 10:00 PM

The hills outside of LA are covered in grasses; there are no trees and no huge rocks. Rolling hills, increasingly carved up for homes and new roads, which used to be covered by wild grasses. It is a tinderbox, and fires in the hills outside of LA have made news every other year (literally, even-numbered years) for decades now. Next year, or later in this year, the rains will come. Rains on hills that are soon to be bare naked. This will cause mudslides. Every other year for decades now.

West coast television producers live in the hills outside LA. Their million dollar homes, covered by federal insurance because no private insurance company in their right mind would issue a policy for this, will be rebuilt in the hills outside LA. Many of these television producers work in the news industry.

Liberal insanity, rinse, repeat.

Oh, and with your last bottle of drinking water, be sure and save the delta smelt, so you can then die knowing you helped the little fishies. California-level stupid – there’s plenty of water, but the enviro-wingnuts have achieved their goal and humans can starve and dehydrate now.

DublOh7 on May 18, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Holy Sh*t is he stupid!

schmuck281 on May 18, 2014 at 10:07 PM

I was speaking of Gov Brown. The last smart thing he did was schtupping Linda Ronstadt.

schmuck281 on May 18, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Old and busted: people setting fires are committing arson.

New hotness: people setting fires are committing climate change.

Gov. Moonbeam is correct to point out that Republicans are to blame for these wildfires, really, because just like Tinkerbelle, everyone needs to BELIEVE just as hard as they can, or our climate is going to to change so much we’ll all be underwater just as soon as the Antarctic ice shelf melts. Which could be any day within the next 1000 years.

So okay everybody! We can save Tinkerbelle! Let’s all believe

Dolce Far Niente on May 18, 2014 at 10:10 PM

The crap we put up with for the smelt.

John the Libertarian on May 18, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Ok moonbeam.

gwhh on May 18, 2014 at 10:53 PM

More importantly Governor, is the douche bag half empty or half full?

Mason on May 18, 2014 at 11:00 PM

i just love the way these global warming people love to use the term “deniers” as the end all insult. Then they seem to forget that they deny the scientific opposition to their pet cause. They seem to deny that their can be honest scientific disagreement and that any person who does not agree with what they say can have substantive reasons for doing so. Who are the deniers now? The liberal mantra, “rules for thee but not for me.”

warmairfan on May 18, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Climate change causes arson and construction site accidents?

Ronnie on May 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Climate change is a bunk phrase. It used to be global warming. When there was no evidence of such, they had to change what they called their plan to ruin the economy. Brown is an idiot. Probably to much substance abuse in the 60′s. The rest of the kool aid drinkers us bad computer models to show what they show. I would like some evidence based facts. How can you believe they can predict the weather 50 years from today when next month is questionable? Go look in your newpaper archives to see weather patterns. Over time, summer is still summer and winter is still winter. It has not gotten significantly warmer or colder in my nearly 7 decade lifetime.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on May 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Most of the fires in SD are along the 15. Duh! An arsonist drove down the freeway and started them! Of course, this was after the news programs the day before very helpfully warned everyone that we were in fire danger alert mode because of the dry winds. Why not just say, hey you firebugs, have at it.

PattyJ on May 18, 2014 at 11:45 PM

And, if we weren’t having wildfires now, but instead – like Chicago – got a dusting of snow in Los Angeles, that would be due to climate change also.

Moonbeam has spoken!

Another Drew on May 19, 2014 at 3:10 AM

Well it looks like everybody’s piling on. Even Neil Tyson DeGrasse. The man should stick to stargazing.

Red Creek on May 19, 2014 at 3:32 AM

What has “Moonbeam” Brown been smoking? From the Interagency Fire Center (leaving out smaller areas):

Year Fires YTD Size YTD
2014 (1/1/14 – 5/16/14) Fires: 22,306 Acres: 444,428
2009 (1/1/09 – 5/16/09) Fires: 36,173 Acres: 1,263,657
2008 (1/1/08 – 5/16/08) Fires: 22,796 Acres: 1,407,713
2007 (1/1/07 – 5/16/07) Fires: 31,602 Acres: 892,321
2006 (1/1/06 – 5/16/06) Fires: 39,165 Acres: 2,402,419

10 Average
2004-2014 Fires: 26,045 Acres: 988,299

Thus far, 2014 is a BELOW average year

sadatoni on May 19, 2014 at 7:20 AM

Why blame arsonists, poor forest management, and terrible water conservation policies when we can instead blame sky gremlins?

JeremiahJohnson on May 19, 2014 at 8:45 AM

Unless the two teens who were caught trying to start another fire were named ‘Climate’ and ‘Change’, Brown in full of B$!

easyt65 on May 19, 2014 at 8:59 AM

“Whether it’s part of natural variability or climate change…”

I don’t have a problem with a ‘scientist’ considering all possibilities, but we all know “climate scientists” start from a conclusion and work backwards to prove it.

ptcamn on May 19, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Sorry, Jerry. I guess you didn’t read the linked rebuttal to your precious Natl Climate Assessment. It’s an interesting read.

Your global warming are belong to us!

freedomfirst on May 19, 2014 at 10:33 AM

MOAR TRAINS!

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Ward Cleaver on May 19, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Well it looks like everybody’s piling on. Even Neil Tyson DeGrasse. The man should stick to stargazing.

Red Creek on May 19, 2014 at 3:32 AM

That dude uses every opportunity to push global warming. Now, he spouts that garbage on “Cosmos”. His buddy Michio Kaku is every bit as bad. Stick to science. Present competing views to your theories. Be objective. These two are hacks.

freedomfirst on May 19, 2014 at 10:57 AM

PolitiFact, with hilarious ineptitude, rates Gov. Brown “Mostly True” on his claim that virtually all Washington Republicans reject the science of climate change.

crowtreboot on May 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM

In the next year or two, I predict the winter rains will return to California and we’ll have a ‘wet year’ or two, and this current drought will be forgotten. Some areas will have floods and other rain-caused calamities with all the localized attendant human misery the media loves to wallow in — and then idiot liberals will complain that man-made CLIMATE CHANGE is the cause of this too!!!

Once again — AS IF PASSING LEGISLATION CAN ACTUALLY CONTROL THE WEATHER!!! people who believe this must be crazy!

otlset on May 19, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Hey, Jerry — here in Georgia we had a cold, damp winter and so far, a cool spring (54deg F last night). Roll on, global warming!

Neener, neener.

Don’t even think of moving here.

wagnert in atlanta on May 19, 2014 at 6:20 PM

And I quote Bugs Bunny:

What a maroon. What an ignoranimous.

soghornetgunner on May 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM

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