GOP senators: We’ll pass immigration reform next year if we take back the Senate

posted at 4:01 pm on May 15, 2014 by Allahpundit

Give Rubio credit for being candid about this. I think some conservatives are under the impression that if Republicans retake the Senate and thereby remove any agenda-setting power from Democratic hands, that’s the end of amnesty until 2017 at the earliest. Nope. The GOP is not going to risk another presidential election without something to show Latino voters on immigration. They’ll risk a midterm because Latinos won’t be a force in November, but they won’t risk it in a high-turnout campaign with the White House on the line.

And look. While it’s true that a Republican-only bill would be better than the Gang of Eight bill, it’s only marginally true. If you think Obama and the Democrats are going to agree to some sort of tough security-only measure without a deal on legalizing illegals too, you’re kidding yourself. They know that the whole point of this effort politically for the GOP is to make nice with Latinos and that the closer we get to 2016, the more desperate Republicans will be. That’s the Democrats’ leverage. If McConnell and Boehner try to pass something that, say, makes legalization conditional upon security improvements, Reid will either filibuster it or Obama will veto it and then McConnell et al. will panic at the possibility that they might not pass something before 2016 after all. That is to say, no matter how much the GOP blathers about border enforcement and security, what they’re really interested in — both for political reasons and to please their masters in the business lobby — is legalization. If they passed a security-only bill and did nothing to amnestize illegals who are here, that might put them in an even worse position with Latinos in 2016. Why on earth would they do that?

“I certainly think we can make progress on immigration particularly on topics like modernizing our legal immigration system, improving our mechanisms for enforcing the law and I think if you did those things you could actually make some progress on addressing those who are illegally,” Rubio said Wednesday evening of the prospects of passing immigration reform in 2015.

He said the Senate next year should pass immigration reform through a series of sequential bills that build upon each other to enact comprehensive reform. This approach would be more palatable in the House, he said…

Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the lead author of the comprehensive Senate immigration bill, signaled Wednesday that Democrats would not be willing to join in such an effort

He said House Republicans have a narrow window between early June and the August recess to act.

“I am saying that if Speaker [John] Boehner [Ohio], [House Majority] Leader [Eric] Cantor [Va.], and other Republican leaders refuse to schedule a vote on immigration reform during this window, it will not pass until 2017 at the earliest,” he said on the Senate floor Wednesday.

In theory, having Senate Democrats serially filibuster a bunch of smaller, piecemeal GOP immigration bills would let Republicans argue in 2016 that Democrats are now the obstacle to amnesty, not them. In practice, it won’t work that way. Democrats will simply point out that they’re filibustering in the name of getting a better deal for illegals, which is true, and then Obama will issue an executive order before 2016 on immigration to show Latino voters that Democrats are still their bestest friends. They have lots of leverage, even as a Senate minority. Maybe, though, Senate Dems would agree to splitting comprehensive reform into smaller bills purely as a formality, so long as they get a good deal from Republicans on legalization. There’s no risk, after all, that the president’s going to sign a small bill on border security if Democrats agree to it and then veto a bill on legalization; Obama could refuse to sign anything unless and until the legalization bill has passed both houses. Why conservatives should care whether a bad deal is passed comprehensively or piecemeal is beyond me, but it sounds like that’s going to be the next way they try to sell this to the base. “We’re going slow, step by step, even though … we’re going to end up in the same place as the Gang of Eight.”

Anyway, via Breitbart, here’s your would-be GOP nominee wondering why anyone would question the economic dynamism that comes with importing lots of unskilled labor at a time when unemployment in America is already stubbornly high. Skip to 19:30 for the key bit.


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Bon jorno, Ratso!

Doc Holliday on May 15, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Just their way of saying they don’t want control of the Senate!

LeftCoastRight on May 15, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Why bother to vote 2014 ? Let the democrats keep the senate .

Lucano on May 15, 2014 at 4:05 PM

What freaking universe do these people live in that they believe having “something to show Latino voters” is going to make one iota of difference in the way Latinos vote??!!

Shay on May 15, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Confirmed. Red Wave 2014 has just died.

nobar on May 15, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Let the Ds keep the Senate then. I’m getting great entertainment listening to everyone’s crazy uncle Harry Reid beclown himself and the once august body.

philw1776 on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Oy.

BuckeyeSam on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Why bother to vote 2014 ? Let the democrats keep the senate .

Lucano on May 15, 2014 at 4:05 PM

The Supreme Court?

can_con on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

What I don’t get is how these GOP senators/congresscritters are just so sure that amnesty, er, I’m sorry, “legalization” (still amnesty as far as I’m concerned) will be the magic elixir in the 2016 election. If it was, don’t they think that Democrats would be trying like hell to put a stop to it instead of eagerly forging on?

Talk about the Stupid Party.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

GOP senators: We’ll pass immigration reform next year if we take back the Senate

Maybe some should tone down their elation over indications via polls and analysis that the GOP can take back the senate.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM

How is Reid going to filibuster a bill that is enforcement first? The Dems set the precedent of changing the filibuster rules to meet their political needs. As a taxpayer who opposes amnesty I will insist that the GOP alter the filibuster rules in order to pass enforcement first legislation.See how that works. Then Obama can take the heat for vetoing the enforcement first bill.

Hera on May 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM

I take it they are planning to never return to their home states ever again?

Murphy9 on May 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Start small. Deport the criminal and gang members and start talking about deporting the visa overstayers.

BuckeyeSam on May 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM

The GOP is not going to risk another presidential election without something to show Latino voters on immigration. They’ll risk a midterm because Latinos won’t be a force in November, but they won’t risk it in a high-turnout campaign with the White House on the line.

Good point. I mean it’s not like alienating a huge chunk of their own base will cost the GOP the White House in 2016.

Doughboy on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Think people – this might just be a careful CYA position statement.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

If McConnell and Boehner try to pass something that, say, makes legalization conditional upon security improvements,

Does anyone actually think Dear Liar or any of his minions in the federal bureaucracy would actually enforce new security? He’d just deem that not to exist.

rbj on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

How is Reid going to filibuster a bill that is enforcement first? The Dems set the precedent of changing the filibuster rules to meet their political needs. As a taxpayer who opposes amnesty I will insist that the GOP alter the filibuster rules in order to pass enforcement first legislation.See how that works. Then Obama can take the heat for vetoing the enforcement first bill.

Hera on May 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Obama can sign the enforcement-first bill and then simply ignore it. It’s his SOP.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

And the GOP’s reward will be Hillary Clinton, 45th President of the United States.

DisneyFan on May 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Start small. Deport the criminal and gang members and start talking about deporting the visa overstayers.

BuckeyeSam on May 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM

“But…but…comprehensive….we need a comprehensive solution.”
/GOP Dimwits

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM

What I don’t get is how these GOP senators/congresscritters are just so sure that amnesty, er, I’m sorry, “legalization” (still amnesty as far as I’m concerned) will be the magic elixir in the 2016 election. If it was, don’t they think that Democrats would be trying like hell to put a stop to it instead of eagerly forging on?

Talk about the Stupid Party.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

It’s likely only a handful of the dumber ones really believe that they’ll actually win votes. Most of them don’t care and just want the money. Who cares if America collapses into bankruptcy, if you’re so rich that you can fly off to the Bahamas in your private jet and enjoy a retirement of idle luxury?

Plus there’s that extra motivation to get a little petty revenge on the party activists and base who dared to run conservative primary opponents to oppose them.

Doomberg on May 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM

And the GOP’s reward will be Hillary Clinton, 45th President of the United States.

DisneyFan on May 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Bonus gift if the nominate Jeb as well: a full 50-state loss.

nobar on May 15, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Good point. I mean it’s not like alienating a huge chunk of their own base will cost the GOP the White House in 2016.

Doughboy on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Taking the base for granted is the GOPe SOP.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Not really off topic, but just in case.

Matt Bai, Hillary is only this ‘beautiful’ in your daydreams.

On topic, all who’re for amnesty are traitors to the land, from obama to Boehner, to Rubio, to all the D-rats and the DIABLOs.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2014 at 4:13 PM

The losing attitude in this thread is astonishing.

Fight – or quit – but quit bitching like a bunch of little children.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM

GOP senators: We’ll pass immigration reform next year if we take back the Senate

…RIP!

KOOLAID2 on May 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM

It’s likely only a handful of the dumber ones really believe that they’ll actually win votes. Most of them don’t care and just want the money. Who cares if America collapses into bankruptcy, if you’re so rich that you can fly off to the Bahamas in your private jet and enjoy a retirement of idle luxury?

Plus there’s that extra motivation to get a little petty revenge on the party activists and base who dared to run conservative primary opponents to oppose them.

Doomberg on May 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Some “loyal opposition” they are.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Screw them…keep the democrats. Let’s get the rush over the cliff done. Maybe when the country finally crashed we can rebuild without these clowns.

Screw Rubio…screw McCain…The heck with Republican establishment. Let them legalize everyone…heck bring in every single third worlder they can find…legalize them all.

JimBob on May 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Think people – this might just be a careful CYA position statement.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Can you name the last time the GOP has lied to anyone other than conservatives to win their votes? On any issue?

The Democrats run to the right but governs “left.” The reverse has never happened with the GOP and I’m not sure why people here suddenly think the GOP is playing ten dimensional chess, when it’s been abundantly clear they aren’t even bright enough to play tic tac toe.

Doomberg on May 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM

HURL-bucked for the picture of Schumer/Rubio.

I hope it accompanies Rubio to his political demise.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM

HURL-bucket, alas.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM

rbj on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

The ICE’s approved terminology of immigration enforcement is “prosecutorial discretion”

lineholder on May 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Taking the base for granted is the GOPe SOP.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:13 PM

You’d think they would learn something from 2012. Instead they seem hellbent(to use our esteemed Speaker’s word) on going down the same road, only this time they’re going to drive even more voters away if they nominate someone like Jeb or CRISTie.

Doughboy on May 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Obama can sign the enforcement-first bill and then simply ignore it. It’s his SOP.

If Obama ignores enforcement first legislation. Then there is no reason to move forward on anything for illegals.

Hera on May 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM

The Democrats run to the right but governs “left.” The reverse has never happened with the GOP and I’m not sure why people here suddenly think the GOP is playing ten dimensional chess, when it’s been abundantly clear they aren’t even bright enough to play tic tac toe.

Doomberg on May 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM

1,000,000+

No Freaking Doubt About It…we are being led to slaughter by feckless corrupt crony capitalists.

JimBob on May 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Are they TRYING to lose in November? Really?

neyney on May 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Vote GOP in mid terms…because amnesty…

d1carter on May 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Come on people – fight, or quit – but stop whining.

HotAir members are passionate Americans – do not allow anyone to defeat you.

Everyone’s beliefs are (I hope) developed over their lives experiences.

We on the right need to fight our internal fights – win every battle we can win – and then take back what we have lost.

Victory goes to those who win – not those who allow others to beat them.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Stay home.

portlandon on May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Immigration reform is a given.
Chamber of Commerce is threatening to without millions of campaign contributions.
The GOP will cave and we will end with democrats and democrat lite.
At this point the number one priority of every conservative is to stop the silent take over of America.

weedisgood on May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Republicans like Rubio seem to be pretty bad handicappers if they think risking the loss of Conservative votes for the mirage of Latino votes that will never appear is a good idea.

NixTyranny on May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Ah, is that so?

Well, I guess I don’t have to worry about taking time off work to vote in November.

Good to know.

Meople on May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

HURL-bucket, alas.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Will you hold my hair?

bazil9 on May 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Give Rubio credit for being candid about this a vile traitor and a sworn enemy of the United States.

If the GOP rams amnesty through, in opposition teh the vast majority of Americans, they will never win the White House again – it really is that simple – and Rubio is too stupid to understand the consequences, or has been well paid to ignore the danger that passing AMNESTY poses for the future of America.

Civil War – here WE come!

Pork-Chop on May 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Just their way of saying they don’t want control of the Senate!

LeftCoastRight on May 15, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Voting Democrat now! That way I know who the real communists are since they brazenly admit it. When I get boned from behind, I at least want to know that it was expected by the Democraps.

libbyscooter on May 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Stay home.

portlandon on May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

No no no – please no – do not allow yourself to be defeated – please

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

scoot over,Pookie-

bazil9 on May 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

So let’s see:

GOP doesn’t take the Senate – amnesty.

GOP takes the Senate – amnesty.

Gee, seems like we get lawlessness no matter what. Why do we have the GOP again?

chuckfinlay on May 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

If you think Obama and the Democrats are going to agree to some sort of tough security-only measure without a deal on legalizing illegals too, you’re kidding yourself.

Which is what every single conceivable POTUS candidate has said they would do. Yes, even, Cruz. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html

Time to face reality, folks. It’s gonna happen.

cdog0613 on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

If Obama ignores enforcement first legislation. Then there is no reason to move forward on anything for illegals.

Hera on May 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM

In the end, the Democrats aren’t going to agree to an enforcement-first bill. Certainly not one that grants legalization only conditionally on improved border security. So the point is moot.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

If you think Obama and the Democrats are going to agree to some sort of tough security-only measure without a deal on legalizing illegals too, you’re kidding yourself. They know that the whole point of this effort politically for the GOP is to make nice with Latinos and that the closer we get to 2016, the more desperate Republicans will be. That’s the Democrats’ leverage. If McConnell and Boehner try to pass something that, say, makes legalization conditional upon security improvements, Reid will either filibuster it or Obama will veto it and then McConnell et al. will panic at the possibility that they might not pass something before 2016 after all. That is to say, no matter how much the GOP blathers about border enforcement and security, what they’re really interested in — both for political reasons and to please their masters in the business lobby — is legalization. If they passed a security-only bill and did nothing to amnestize illegals who are here, that might put them in an even worse position with Latinos in 2016. Why on earth would they do that?

Reagan passed the first amnesty and Hispanics did not flock to vote GOP and they wouldn’t this time, either. This is not for votes. This is for donor dollars because big business wants a standing cheap foreign labor source, and a renewable one, too, since no border security virtually guarantees a continual flow of illegals over our borders to keep wages low and take American jobs, but they’ll also get their doubled number of visas for legal cheaper foreign labor to take tech and mid-level jobs, too.

This is a sell out. The GOP is selling out the rule of law, the American citizens and legal immigrants to appease their big business cash donors.

The issue has reached a tipping point for me. Since the GOP has enabled or outright passed the Democrats agenda, and now made it clear they mean to continue appeasing their big business donors and passing the Democrats agenda for them regardless of how much damage it causes the rule of law or the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation, it makes no difference to me who wins these elections.

They’ve sold us out on ObamaCare, and now they mean to sell working Americans out on amnesty, too. Call it a day. The GOP is dead.

thatsafactjack on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

We need a third party.

KMC1 on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

withhold*

weedisgood on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Time to face reality, folks. It’s gonna happen.

cdog0613 on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Not true – never quit – never ever quit.

If you believe something – if you are heart felt – never quit.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:25 PM

We need a third party.

KMC1 on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

No we don’t — you need to make your voice heard and make it mean something

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Boycott the Chamber of Commerce on all levels….and the GOP.

d1carter on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

And the GOP’s reward will be Hillary Clinton, 45th President of the United States.

Hell, if the GOP is bound and determined to make sure they can’t win in 2016, why should the Dems waste time with Hillary when they could run ANYBODY and win? They could dig up some woman who is even more of an open Shameless Stalinist and get EVERYTHING THEY WANT, right away. Hell, they could run an American-born Islamist sleeper agent if they wanted to, at that point.

Nuke DC.

HikaruKitsune on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Boycott the Chamber of Commerce on all levels….and the GOP.

d1carter on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Those who quit never win – EVER !!!

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

No no no – please no – do not allow yourself to be defeated – please

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

If they pass a “legalization” (re: amnesty) bill, then it’s over. They’ll have defeated themselves. At that point, no sense continuing to support a self-defeating party.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

I didn’t leave the GOP, it left me…..

d1carter on May 15, 2014 at 4:27 PM

One party government is death to America…

d1carter on May 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

If they pass a “legalization” (re: amnesty) bill, then it’s over. They’ll have defeated themselves. At that point, no sense continuing to support a self-defeating party.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Then do whatever you must to stop it from happening.

Congress is the master of misdirection and double-talk.

Please do not give us – that’s what this is all about.

Make it seem inevitable – and people will quit fighting

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Give Rubio credit for being candid about this.

I don’t credit Rubio with anything…he lies when he thinks it benefits him.

The man has no integrity.

He says one thing to anglos and another to amigos.

If the GOP is determined to be hostage to crony capitalism at the detriment to the law and the american citizenry…what makes them any different than their progressive opponents?

They wouldn’t be any different….they would be just as corrupt.

workingclass artist on May 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/15/Rubio-GOP-Leaders-We-ll-Absolutely-Try-Again-on-Amnesty-if-We-Gain-Control-of-Senate

This piece packs all the punch . Rubio is a snake of the lowest order .

Lucano on May 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

What I don’t get is how these GOP senators/congresscritters are just so sure that amnesty, er, I’m sorry, “legalization” (still amnesty as far as I’m concerned) will be the magic elixir in the 2016 election.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

They don’t. They will get their pockets lined by the Chamber of Commerce and other big businesses, ride off into the sunset, and theoretically be dead before the full repercussions are realized in our land.

chuckfinlay on May 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Come on people – fight, or quit – but stop whining.

HotAir members are passionate Americans – do not allow anyone to defeat you.

Everyone’s beliefs are (I hope) developed over their lives experiences.

We on the right need to fight our internal fights – win every battle we can win – and then take back what we have lost.

Victory goes to those who win – not those who allow others to beat them.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

This reminds me of John McCain’s fight with me speech. Fight with me, as he does a reach around on Obama and lucks his base in the nuts. No thanks, Pollyanna.

TinFin on May 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

If the GOP is determined to be hostage to crony capitalism at the detriment to the law and the american citizenry…what makes them any different than their progressive opponents?

They wouldn’t be any different….they would be just as corrupt.

workingclass artist on May 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

One political class working for one set of donors who share the same interests.

thatsafactjack on May 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Kicks. He only licks across the aisle.

TinFin on May 15, 2014 at 4:30 PM

One party government is death to America…

d1carter on May 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

I hate to say this, but we’ve already been under single party, Authoritarian rule for the last 6 years now. I don’t expect that to change anytime soon.

Meople on May 15, 2014 at 4:30 PM

If the GOP is determined to be hostage to crony capitalism at the detriment to the law and the american citizenry…what makes them any different than their progressive opponents?

They wouldn’t be any different….they would be just as corrupt.

workingclass artist on May 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

One political class working for one set of donors who share the same interests.

thatsafactjack on May 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Because One Party rule is so much simpler…

workingclass artist on May 15, 2014 at 4:31 PM

GOP senators: We’ll pass immigration reform next year if we take back the Senate

What could the motivation for stating this possibly be?? It makes no sense. Are they trying to suppress voter turnout, or dilute numbers by turning people to 3rd party “protest’ votes?

Mimzey on May 15, 2014 at 4:31 PM

This is likely – at best – what we will get from a GOP controlled Senate – especially if Ted Cruz is proposing it. I suppose Sessions and Grassley will try and pull him back from this. An immediate “pathway to legalization” but not citizenship.

Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate’s so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Mr. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html

cdog0613 on May 15, 2014 at 4:31 PM

“We’re going slow, step by step, even though … we’re going to end up in the same place as the Gang of Eight.”

Far too many Vichy Republicans seem to think that the answer to electoral success is heading down the exact same path as the progressive fascists…just doing it a little bit slower.

If they continue to embrace this fallacy – the GOP will end as a viable political party within the next decade….and unfortunately, the US will follow within another couple of decades.

Neither Greece or the PRC are viable role models, but for some absurd reason, the bulk of our chattering political class believe they are.

Athos on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

This reminds me of John McCain’s fight with me speech. Fight with me, as he does a reach around on Obama and lucks his base in the nuts. No thanks, Pollyanna.

TinFin on May 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

I know – and I understand that.

Look I take a lot of shot inside HotAir for some of my thoughts – but I respect anyone who stands by their beliefs.

This nation is built on a warriors self worth –

Never quit

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Really Republicans you do know Republican party lost more Hispanic votes after they past immigration reform in 86.

Media will NOT ALLOW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY to take ANY CREDIT WHATSO EVER on immigration reform. They will give the whole 100% of the credit to Barack. It will be just like how Republican DO NOT GET ANY CREDIT for passing civil rights act in the 60s.

BroncosRock on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Screw the GOP and their big business donors. That is all this is about. Amnesty is a LOSER for America. Simple as that.

KickandSwimMom on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

AP said:

Nope. The GOP is not going to risk another presidential election without something to show Latino voters on immigration. They’ll risk a midterm because Latinos won’t be a force in November, but they won’t risk it in a high-turnout campaign with the White House on the line.

The reason this analysis is completely wrong is that it is based on the false premise that the GOP establishment’s push for amnesty is motivated by a desire to win votes. It isn’t. It’s motivated by a desire for money from donors who want cheap foreign labor. The establishment is corrupt, not dumb: Most of them know that amnesty isn’t really going to help the GOP with Latinos, that’s just the spin they use to try to sell it the base. And that’s why the conventional wisdom that amnesty is dead until ’17 if it doesn’t pass this year, is probably right.

Jon0815 on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Is there some reason why the Stupid Party doesn’t want to win?

If voters stay home or vote defecrat what does the establishment gain – if they lose and are no longer in office?

Ruckus_Tom on May 15, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Will you hold my hair?

bazil9 on May 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Friends sometimes must do unpleasant things.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Then do whatever you must to stop it from happening.

Congress is the master of misdirection and double-talk.

Please do not give us – that’s what this is all about.

Make it seem inevitable – and people will quit fighting

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Their “hellbent” (Boehner’s word) on doing this. Chamber of Commerce and big donor cash outweighs what we plebes want.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

We need a third party.
KMC1 on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

No we don’t — you need to make your voice heard and make it mean something
jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Jake-the-goose, you are the biggest phony on here. You have a history of belittling amnesty opponents, calling them “freaks.” Of course you couldn’t care less that Establishment Republicans are intent on passing illegal alien amnesty.

KMC1 is right. I’m done with the party if they do this.

One issue Amnesty freaks are beginning to sound like paranoid d-illusionists. I think they many are just that.

jake-the-goose on March 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Paranoia abounds this evening.
You amnesty freaks should get a room.

jake-the-goose on March 19, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Paul [Ryan] is right – and this speech is a hopeful indication of his future direction.
People will snipe at him – the Amnesty freaks will freak – etc.
He is possibly the next Chairman of Ways and Means – this is good.

jake-the-goose on March 17, 2014 at 6:17 PM

bluegill on May 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Media will NOT ALLOW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY to take ANY CREDIT WHATSO EVER on immigration reform. They will give the whole 100% of the credit to Barack. It will be just like how Republican DO NOT GET ANY CREDIT for passing civil rights act in the 60s.

BroncosRock on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Thank you for that – and you are 100% correct.

That is this GOP’s fault.

When was the last time a member of the GOP reminded the black community that it was the GOP that ended slavery in this nation – while the Democrats fought FOR IT – tooth and nail?

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Does anyone still wonder why the GOP IRS investigation has gone no where but FOIA requests from Judicial watch is productive…?

d1carter on May 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

The Supreme Court?

can_con on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Yes.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

GOP senators: We’ll pass immigration reform next year if we take back the Senate

What could the motivation for stating this possibly be?? It makes no sense. Are they trying to suppress voter turnout, or dilute numbers by turning people to 3rd party “protest’ votes?

Mimzey on May 15, 2014 at 4:31 PM

I dunno…Inoculation?

Political Inoculation against early discussion of tricky stuff seems to be quite the thingy these days.

One thing is certain and revealed in this crapola.

The DC Politicians spend way too much time in their bubbles listening to media types…consultants…and lobbies.

They are not listening to the voters.

workingclass artist on May 15, 2014 at 4:35 PM

This reminds me of John McCain’s fight with me speech. Fight with me, as he does a reach around on Obama and lucks his base in the nuts. No thanks, Pollyanna.

TinFin on May 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

I know – and I understand that.

Look I take a lot of shot inside HotAir for some of my thoughts – but I respect anyone who stands by their beliefs.

This nation is built on a warriors self worth –

Never quit

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Best bet is to burn down the congressional phone banks. Don’t just say no amnesty, tell them we need these jobs. And, we can actually vote.

TinFin on May 15, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Jake-the-goose, you are the biggest phony on here. You have a history of belittling amnesty opponents, calling them “freaks.” Of course you couldn’t care less that Establishment Republicans are intent on passing illegal alien amnesty.

KMC1 is right. I’m done with the party if they do this.

Sorry you feel that way.

Anger is a terrible way to go through life.

I wish you better than you wish me.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:36 PM

The Supreme Court?

can_con on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Even that doesn’t matter too much when you have Obamacare as a tax, and the almighty executive pen..

melle1228 on May 15, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Best bet is to burn down the congressional phone banks. Don’t just say no amnesty, tell them we need these jobs. And, we can actually vote.

TinFin on May 15, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Now you’re talking.

VOTE !!!! – always VOTE

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

The Supreme Court?

can_con on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Do you honestly believe the Dems cannot round up enough RINO votes to get a SC Justice confirmed no matter how radical he/she is?

bw222 on May 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Think people – this might just be a careful CYA position statement.
jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Fight – or quit – but quit bitching like a bunch of little children.
jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM

At this point, might as well quit.
I don’t care whether it’s a political CYA move – which means they’re lying, or whether they really do want to pass immigration reform/amnesty – which means they’re giving in to the left.
This basically says the GOPe is no different from the Dems, and no longer worth supporting.
They’re basically saying they don’t want the conservative base on their side – and they don’t give a dam what we think or want.

I’ve got a demotivational poster on my computer that pretty well sums it up:
“Winners never quit and quitters never win. But those who never win and never quit are idiots.”

dentarthurdent on May 15, 2014 at 4:38 PM

. . . and there in lays the problem. I’m sure they are going to be shocked when the base decides to sit home and not vote. They are doing their very best to blow a walk away election.

De Oppresso Liber on May 15, 2014 at 4:38 PM

We need a third party.
KMC1 on May 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM
No we don’t — you need to make your voice heard and make it mean something
jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Jake-the-goose, you are the biggest phony on here. You have a history of belittling amnesty opponents, calling them “freaks.” Of course you couldn’t care less that Establishment Republicans are intent on passing illegal alien amnesty.

KMC1 is right. I’m done with the party if they do this.

One issue Amnesty freaks are beginning to sound like paranoid d-illusionists. I think they many are just that.

jake-the-goose on March 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Paranoia abounds this evening.
You amnesty freaks should get a room.

jake-the-goose on March 19, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Paul [Ryan] is right – and this speech is a hopeful indication of his future direction.
People will snipe at him – the Amnesty freaks will freak – etc.
He is possibly the next Chairman of Ways and Means – this is good.

jake-the-goose on March 17, 2014 at 6:17 PM

bluegill on May 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Cheerleader Jake, you’ve been a bad girl. Liar!!!!

TinFin on May 15, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Think people – this might just be a careful CYA position statement.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Yep, and it has been for the last two years. I love how every time Ed or Allah puts something up here about Republicans considering Amnesty everyone here gets a serious case of the vapors. People go all full blown every time a story breaks about this…I am sitting out the next election, Let the Dems keep the Senate, Let it Burn, etc.

LOL, it is fun to watch, and this is about the 23 time in the last two years some sort of “Republicans behind Amnesty Push” story has broken.

Johnnyreb on May 15, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Cheerleader Jake, you’ve been a bad girl. Liar!!!!

TinFin on May 15, 2014 at 4:38 PM

I am honored that you follow me so closely.

I freely admit – I walk to my own tune – I am no sheep.

That said – I always vote GOP – and I always will.

That, despite those I must call my associate members.

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:40 PM

What I don’t get is how these GOP senators/congresscritters are just so sure that amnesty, er, I’m sorry, “legalization” (still amnesty as far as I’m concerned) will be the magic elixir in the 2016 election.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

The GOPe figures that since the 1986 amnesty that Reagan signed convinced so many hispanics to become Republicans, that’ll it certainly work that way again! LOL.

AZCoyote on May 15, 2014 at 4:40 PM

The Supreme Court?

can_con on May 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Do you honestly believe the Dems cannot round up enough RINO votes to get a SC Justice confirmed no matter how radical he/she is?

bw222 on May 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Indeed. And the track record of SCOTUS justices nominated by GOP presidents is sketchy at best. Democrat-nominated ones always are as bad as we expect but they get confirmed anyway, usually with RINO support.

Bitter Clinger on May 15, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Do you honestly believe the Dems cannot round up enough RINO votes to get a SC Justice confirmed no matter how radical he/she is?

bw222 on May 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Sure, if they are in charge of the Senate. If the Dems aren’t, though, the Republicans have more leverage with respect to a Supreme Court pick. The Dems can’t simply work their will in the minority.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM

AP said:

Nope. The GOP is not going to risk another presidential election without something to show Latino voters on immigration. They’ll risk a midterm because Latinos won’t be a force in November, but they won’t risk it in a high-turnout campaign with the White House on the line.

The reason this analysis is completely wrong is that it is based on the false premise that the GOP establishment’s push for amnesty is motivated by a desire to win votes. It isn’t. It’s motivated by a desire for money from donors who want cheap foreign labor. The establishment is corrupt, not dumb: Most of them know that amnesty isn’t really going to help the GOP with Latinos, that’s just the spin they use to try to sell it the base. And that’s why the conventional wisdom that amnesty is dead until ’17 if it doesn’t pass this year, is probably right.

Jon0815 on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 PM

This is exactly right. But the GOP is working under a 2nd false premise though. They are being told by “consultants” that the GOP will GAIN votes by doing amnesty.

They are dead wrong. It is just the opposite. As recent studies have shown, easily 70% of new amnesty voters will vote (D). Then you ADD the number of Conservative voters the GOP WILL LOSE by doing amnesty, and the end result is literally the death of the GOP, and with that, America will cease to be a two party system from here on out.

You all are still going to vote FOR a GOP that is even NOW, saying they’re going to make this happen?

Meople on May 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM

When was the last time a member of the GOP reminded the black community that it was the GOP that ended slavery in this nation – while the Democrats fought FOR IT – tooth and nail?

jake-the-goose on May 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

When is the last time the GOP took credit for any achievement or criticized Obama for anything or fought for anything?

Case in point: Harry Reid and the left constantly attack the Koch Brothers for their influence. When have you heard the GOP mention George Soros?

bw222 on May 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM

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