Is Rubio the new Romney?

posted at 8:01 pm on May 14, 2014 by Allahpundit

Team Rubio wants him to be seen as the new Reagan. I think he might be the new Obama. David Harsanyi sees … a different analogy.

For me, at least, the promise of Rubio seldom corresponds with the reality. Whenever I listen to him these days, all I hear is Mitt Romney. If he’s really imbued with all these formidable political skills, why do so many of his appearances feel stilted? If he’s one of fresh faces of a new GOP, why are his speeches crammed with platitudes that may have packed a serious punch in 1984? It’s not that he’s substantively wrong (though he offers so little in that regard), it’s not that he’s off-putting, it’s that he never really generates the sort of excitement or displays the sort of political acumen his reputation might have you believe he can, should or will.

Agree with him or not, Rubio’s time with the Gang of Eight featured some impressive moments. He didn’t shy away from critics. He went on talk radio and passionately argued his case. The base was mad, but likely forgive him. What should be more concerning, though, is the political naiveté he displayed allowing Democrats to use the issue – and him – to bludgeon the GOP. Rubio, in the end, was forced to step away from the entire mess, which makes it a failure on both a political and policy level.

And Rubio’s subsequent pandering was his way of letting everyone know he was “severely” conservative…

Perhaps an issue will arise that Rubio can grab, but right now he’s a bit out of step with his own party’s evolution. It was amusing to see Rubio following Mike Lee and others, tepidly aiming his guns at corporate cronyism this week — “big companies may not like big government, but they can afford to deal with it.” The issue seemed manufactured.

“I’ve been told that people are enthusiastic about the prospects of a Rubio candidacy,” says Harsanyi. “I’ve just yet to meet one these people in real life.” Oof. It’s true, Romney and Rubio are both overly platitudinous in their speeches, even by normal political standards. And they both have/had a major conservative heresy to negotiate on their way to the nomination. I’d go a step further and say that they’re also similar in their willingness to reinvent themselves as political circumstances require. Romney ran as a social con in 2008 and went nowhere; four years and one Great Recession later, he came back as a centrist technocrat who was focused on the economy. Rubio ran as a de facto tea-party conservative in 2010, a sort of proto-Ted Cruz; four years later, he’s got a major immigration bill in the Senate under his belt and, with Jeb Bush wavering and Chris Christie damaged, is poised to become the establishment champion in 2016. Sneer at him all you want, but Romney’s reinvention was good enough to get him the nomination. Rubio’s no dummy.

Gotta take issue with Harsanyi, then, on his claim that Rubio’s advance and retreat on amnesty failed both policy-wise and politically. How so, exactly? It passed the Senate and Boehner’s now under tremendous pressure to pass reform of his own in the House. If they end up doing something and eventually get together with Reid on comprehensive reform, Rubio will happily take credit for his role in the process during the general election if he’s nominated. I don’t think that’ll help him much with Latino voters but it might help him with centrists generally in convincing them that he’s centrist too. Also, how is the Gang of Eight bill some major failure for Rubio given his current position in the race? It was instrumental in showing the donor class that he wasn’t, in fact, another Cruz; on the contrary, he’s a guy who was willing to take withering fire from the right for months to try to make the establishment’s amnesty dreams come true. Granted, it alienated some conservatives, but that’ll fade as GOP irritation at the Clintons starts building again to 90s-era levels. As disappointed as I am in him for joining the Gang of Eight, I think it was a savvy play politically. As those business donations roll in, he’ll be crying all the way to the bank.

Also, is it true that Rubio never generates excitement anymore when he’s speaking? He did okay with that stemwinder about Venezuela a few months ago. He’s given speeches on abortion, in particular, that have been widely acclaimed on the right. It’s not that he can’t generate excitement, I think he’s simply been overshadowed by rivals who’ve played bigger roles politically over the last year. No one dishes red meat like Ted Cruz; no one’s as unpredictable as Rand Paul; no one’s as … Christie-ish as Chris Christie. They’re all dynamic in different ways. Rubio’s more static — usually — but that’s not the worst thing for him to be given his new role in the race. He’s the “safe” choice compared to all the rest. People will tolerate a little stasis from the safe choice. Right, Mitt?


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Bmore on May 14, 2014 at 8:02 PM

The new GOP establishment candidate who gives away an easily winnable election.

rbj on May 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

I held my nose and voted for Romney because he was the nominee, seeing him as a better option than another four years of Obama.

I won’t do the same for Rubio. That Gang of Eight nonsense makes him entirely unpalatable, even if the GOP shoves amnesty down our throats before the ’16 election.

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Sorry way too much immigration baggage, and not the good kind.

Johnnyreb on May 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

We can agree on Rubio it seems.

astonerii on May 14, 2014 at 8:06 PM

You mean beyond the entire running companies and Olympics and having a record of success and such? You know, executive experience?

Can’t see how you can compare them beyond the wishy-washy squishiness of both who can’t seem to put a coherent worldview together that includes small government and government doing the few things handed to it… one of which is securing the border.

Heck, you can’t get a straight answer out of either on that these days… so I guess there is that similarity.

ajacksonian on May 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

I held my nose and voted for Romney because he was the nominee, seeing him as a better option than another four years of Obama.

I won’t do the same for Rubio. That Gang of Eight nonsense makes him entirely unpalatable, even if the GOP shoves amnesty down our throats before the ’16 election.

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

I concur. Never again will I vote dem lite. Makes little difference after the hit job Obama & Co. did on the country.

Judge_Dredd on May 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Rubio will take all that donor money and help from PACs to run ads that he secured the border, got tough on illegal immigration and fixed our broken immigration system. It worked for Renee Ellmers. That’s what all the open borders/amnesty proponents are going to do. Democrats aren’t the only party with lots of low info voters that can be easily herded like sheep.

Wigglesworth on May 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

As long as Rubio is not the new Obama, who cares…

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

I

f they end up doing something and eventually get together with Reid on comprehensive reform, Rubio will happily take credit for his role in the process during the general election if he’s nominated.

It won’t matter if he is nominated. The resulting split in the GOP will insure that no GOP nominee will be elected. And the demise of the GOP following that debacle will be swift and certain.

de rigueur on May 14, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Hey, whatever “THEY” want Rubio to be seen as, it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a liberal “progressive” LOSER.

Pork-Chop on May 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

lol

Oligarchs/Plutocrats 2016!

Status Quo forever!

Murphy9 on May 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

“The base was mad, but likely forgive him.”

Wrong, David! Try again …

ShainS on May 14, 2014 at 8:12 PM

I’m depressed by thinking that none of our guys will beat The Woman. No guy can beat The Woman.

I fear that We’re Scroomed.

Who is John Galt on May 14, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Also, is it true that Rubio never generates excitement anymore when he’s speaking?

First heard him interviewed by Hugh Hewitt way back when, and liked him tremendously.

Tuned into Hannity’s show today, heard two words from his piehole, and turned off the radio …

ShainS on May 14, 2014 at 8:15 PM

I’m depressed by thinking that none of our guys will beat The Woman. No guy can beat The Woman.

I fear that We’re Scroomed.

Who is John Galt on May 14, 2014 at 8:13 PM

If so-called immigration reform passes millions of conservatives will borrow a line from Hillary when it comes time to vote in 2016. “What difference does it make!”

Wigglesworth on May 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM

I’m so tired of getting the short end of the stick candidate wise. The media the “donors”, the “experts” are always trying to push the “safe” GOP candidate.

I was too young to remember Reagan’s first election. I just want that again. A candidate that kicks serious ass.

gophergirl on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

I’m depressed by thinking that none of our guys will beat The Woman. No guy can beat The Woman.

I fear that We’re Scroomed.

Who is John Galt on May 14, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Camera zooms in… Sarah Palin in helicopter, hunting rifle across her knee…

Camera pans to ground… Hillary Clinton running, dodging between burned out cars…

Announcers voice… Your President, Your Choice…

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Is Rubio the new Romney?

Not Even Close Bud

rukiddingme on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Announcers voice… Your President, Your Choice…

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

From your keyboard to Sarah’s eyes.

Who is John Galt on May 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

They say there are 11 million illegals. I have seen estimates ranging to as high as 30 million and the highest quality report I have seen is around 18 million.
Once it is certain amnesty will pass there will be a huge jump in the number of border crossings pushing the number up significantly from there.
Of those 18 million, probably close to 15 million will be eligible for or can falsely claim to be eligible for the amnesty. They will be voters in only a few years after.
Once they get permanent legal status/ citizenship they will petition their immediate family members and swell to closer to 50 million. Figuring similar voting patterns to other immigrant groups then about 28 million of those people will be voters. 22. 7 million new democrat votes, 3.6 million new Republican votes. Net Democrat vote +19.1 million.
No to amnesty. EVER. Any politician even says he could vote for any form of legalization should be removed from office at the first opportune moment.

astonerii on May 14, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Announcers voice… Your President, Your Choice…

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

From your keyboard to Sarah’s eyes.

Who is John Galt on May 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

You know that would be the best political ad of all time…

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Rubio’s problem is his job. As a legislator who does not have to campaign for 6 years, things get stale (and little gets done when you are in the minority). Had Obama been a Senator longer than he was he would have gone stale on Democrats. As will Ted Cruz if he is around more than a couple more years.

The only Senator I can see who can avoid legislative staleness is Rand Paul, because his views are so different from everyone else around him.

eski502 on May 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

The only Senator I can see who can avoid legislative staleness is Rand Paul, because his views are so different from everyone else around him.

eski502 on May 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Yep. Different.

kcewa on May 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

H.R. Clinton running, anywhere, for any reason? lol!

Surely a dream, Mr. Wilde.

Have you been nipping at the absinthe again? ;)

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

The only Senator I can see who can avoid legislative staleness is Rand Paul, because his views are so different from everyone else around him.

eski502 on May 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Too late, he has pretty much already, if he did not start, become an insider. Hence the reason he cannot open his mouth anymore without offending the base. His facade has slipped and he is too crazy to notice and put it back.
I really thought he would be able to hold onto his lies longer.

astonerii on May 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Also, is it true that Rubio never generates excitement anymore when he’s speaking? He did okay with that stemwinder about Venezuela a few months ago.

Never was overly impressed with Rubio, but I have to agree. That was a pretty awesome takedown of that buffoon Harkin.

Doogie on May 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Romney didn’t need the chamber of commerce $upport. Rubio always has.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-07-24/news/os-chamber-rubio-endorsement-20100724_1_marco-rubio-endorsement-chamber.

He’s bought and paid for along with most of the rest of them.

Just google rubio chamber of commerce. Seems like he talks to them a lot.

And we know what they want. He lied to us then, and he’s lieing again.

wolly4321 on May 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

He lied to us then, and he’s lieing again.

wolly4321 on May 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Yeah… consistency at last! lol!

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

H.R. Clinton running, anywhere, for any reason? lol!

Surely a dream, Mr. Wilde.

Have you been nipping at the absinthe again? ;)

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

ROTFLMAO… What makes it work, is that it is an allusion to H.R’s assertion that she remembers dodging sniper fire in Bosnia… <— Insert evil laughter here…

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Jeb is running, Marco isn’t.

kcewa on May 14, 2014 at 8:30 PM

In 2012 Romney won the nomination after a multitude of conservative candidates split the votes,were slandered,had baggage exposed,and /or self destructed.The result-Romney was beaten by a President owning Obamacare and a terrible economy.Why didn’t Romney win?Because,among other things,but primarily because too many conservatives stayed at home.Too many people believed Romney could not be trusted to take care of them and promote their agenda.

So Romney had his albatross, and Rubio now has his.If you think too many conservatives stayed at home in 2012,just wait what happens if amnesty legislation is approved in the next 2 years.Amnesty is Rubio’s Romneycare and he will not escape it.Lets face it,anti-amnesty voters are passionate about the issue.The bitterness and anger that will result from such legislation being pushed,much less enacted is going to be aimed at the GOP for betraying conservatives one more time,and guess who will be the sacrificial lamb-the traitor that joined the Gang of 8 to begin with.

redware on May 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin – The new Reagan and Thatcher. I’ll do my best to raise at least $2 million for either or both.

Sandbear on May 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

H.R. Clinton running, anywhere, for any reason? lol!

Surely a dream, Mr. Wilde.

Have you been nipping at the absinthe again? ;)

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

That would be a great ad … with Killary being carried on a palanquin (portable throne) by New Black Panther Party members.

ShainS on May 14, 2014 at 8:34 PM

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:30 PM

lol! ;)

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:36 PM

…the only thing similar…is flip & flop!

KOOLAID2 on May 14, 2014 at 8:40 PM

ShainS on May 14, 2014 at 8:34 PM

She’d certainly be at home on a palanquin, or in a sedan chair. Feel sorry for the bearers, though:)

How about the ‘runner’ being a much younger, prettier, more athletic, much slimmer stunt double with H.R. Clinton directing from a limo, wearing dark sunglasses, framed by the rolled down window, parked just at the edge of shot. Caption fades in at bottom of screen:

H.R. Clinton: Then as now.

thatsafactjack on May 14, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin – The new Reagan and Thatcher. I’ll do my best to raise at least $2 million for either or both.

Sandbear on May 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Palin/Cruz

Cruz/Palin

Either works for me.:)

idesign on May 14, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Is Rubio the new Romney?

Not a Rubio fan… but being a polished speaker isn’t a bad thing in politics.
But of course we should be insisting on the unelectable and then staying home anyway because that makes us more conservative or something.

V7_Sport on May 14, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Camera zooms in… Sarah Palin in helicopter, hunting rifle across her knee…

Camera pans to ground… Hillary Clinton running, dodging between burned out cars…

Announcers voice… Your President, Your Choice…

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

See this? This is why no sane person ever reads fanfiction…

Inkblots on May 14, 2014 at 8:49 PM

E L E C T A B I L I T Y !

Murphy9 on May 14, 2014 at 8:50 PM

The only Senator I can see who can avoid legislative staleness is Rand Paul, because his views are so different from everyone else around him. whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear.

eski502 on May 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Fixed it for you.

bw222 on May 14, 2014 at 8:51 PM

The only Senator I can see who can avoid legislative staleness is Rand Paul, because his views are so different from everyone else around him.

eski502 on May 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Too late, he has pretty much already, if he did not start, become an insider.

astonerii on May 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Rand Paul? Son of Ron Paul? The man going to Chicago, talking about school choice? The man going to Detroit talking about massive enterprise zones? The man going to Berkeley, to Howard, to recruit supporters? The man who sponsored pro-Israel legislation requiring Palestinian recognition of the state of Israel, only to have AIPAC (???!!!) oppose it, for no more apparent reason than because Rand Paul sponsored it?

That Rand Paul??

An “insider”?!?!

That is Eleanor Clift level stupid. See your doctor Charlie. The potion is clearly wearing off…

JohnGalt23 on May 14, 2014 at 8:53 PM

To quote UpChuck Schumer: “Marco Rubio is one of our Republicans.”

bw222 on May 14, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Agree with him or not, Rubio’s time with the Gang of Eight featured some impressive moments.

I know that I’ll never forget Rubio in his first national push for legislation standing shoulder to shoulder figuratively with Obama and literally with liberal NY Senator Chuck Schumer against Republicans and Conservatives.

That is exactly when I knew that I’d never vote for Rubio who prior to that was one of my favorite possible candidates.

RJL on May 14, 2014 at 9:01 PM

t a Rubio fan… but being a polished speaker isn’t a bad thing in politics. But of course we should be insisting on the unelectable and then staying home anyway because that makes us more conservative or something. V7_Sport on May 14, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Maybe we should elect an actor then. Again.

But, oh wait,, he was “unelectable”. Staunch Conservative. A madman who would start WWIII.

Made movies with chimps.

And won 49 States twice.

wolly4321 on May 14, 2014 at 9:06 PM

That is Eleanor Clift level stupid. See your doctor Charlie. The potion is clearly wearing off…

JohnGalt23 on May 14, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Time is showing him to be nothing but an insider. He has a couple niche issues, just like all of them. Sure, he seems pretty solid on drone strikes. Then again he is establishment chamber of commerce cheap labor all the way baby. That is how they all operate though. John McCain is hyper national security, pretty much democrat everywhere else.

astonerii on May 14, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Jesus, now Rubio is a “liberal”?! Can you fathom why TEA party types are being taken less and less seriously? Every time they so haphazardly toss out slurs like ‘progressive’ and ‘liberal’ and ‘RINO’, all I hear is HERETIC! INFIDEL! RAAAACIST! It seems like there is no political thought or discussion anymore, there is only knee jerk reactions. “This man supported 1 piece of legislation I didn’t like? He’s an inhuman progressive. Remove him from office.”

Nothing makes a leftist more happy than to see their opponents on the right tearing each other apart. Nothing other than seeing two men kiss, that is .

ceruleanblue on May 14, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Sneer at him all you want, but Romney’s reinvention was good enough to get him the nomination. Rubio’s no dummy.

Smart? Rubio is too stupid to be a Repubican President. He rushed in to work with Obama, Schumer and the Democrats so they could use him as a club against Republicans. His stupidity likely cost him the Presidency.

RJL on May 14, 2014 at 9:13 PM

ceruleanblue on May 14, 2014 at 9:12 PM

You must be orgasmic with glee.

astonerii on May 14, 2014 at 9:14 PM

John McCain is hyper national security, pretty much democrat everywhere else.

astonerii on May 14, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Yeah John McCain is anxious and ever ready to send our troops into harm’s way of real bullets, maiming and death, but pouring water over a terrorist’s face scaring them is abhorrent and illegal torture.

RJL on May 14, 2014 at 9:19 PM

…what is http://www.RunTedRun.com ?

KOOLAID2 on May 14, 2014 at 9:25 PM

ceruleanblue on May 14, 2014 at 9:12 PM

LOL, I agree. Imagine the food-fight on the Democrat side if Hillary withdraws. There’s many names who would like to take her place. But they all seem to be civil with each other, for now. It’d be interesting if Hillary becomes more wounded won’t they begin to pick at her carcass. Then all the Democrats could be just like the circular firing squad the Republicans are.

Marcus on May 14, 2014 at 9:26 PM

No to amnesty. EVER. Any politician even says he could vote for any form of legalization should be removed from office at the first opportune moment.

astonerii on May 14, 2014 at 8:22 PM

I wish people would understand that amnesty is the issue that effects every other issue. You legalize 60 million (11 million is hogwash) poverty stricken, uneducated illegals from socialist countries you can kiss the 2nd amendment goodbye along with every other remaining bit of freedom we have. You’re looking at one party rule the rest of our lives. And I don’t mean old school blue dog Democrats.

TxAnn56 on May 14, 2014 at 9:27 PM

I hope not. Why? Has Rubio come out for this inane posturing on minimum wage increase?

J.B. Say on May 14, 2014 at 9:36 PM

RJL on May 14, 2014 at 9:19 PM

But one thing, McCain’s craziness is predictable, like the moon phases.

J.B. Say on May 14, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin – The new Reagan and Thatcher. I’ll do my best to raise at least $2 million for either or both.

Sandbear on May 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Palin/Cruz….have to fight the War on Women with Women.

Who is John Galt on May 14, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Palin/Cruz….have to fight the War on Women with Women.

Who is John Galt on May 14, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Er, Woman. Fixed.

Who is John Galt on May 14, 2014 at 9:54 PM

If he only had a brain …

doufree on May 14, 2014 at 10:11 PM

I am excited to vote for Rubio in 2016…..I wasn’t for Romney.

Rubio is not like Romney.

terryannonline on May 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Not a Rubio fan… but being a polished speaker isn’t a bad thing in politics.
But of course we should be insisting on the unelectable and then staying home anyway because that makes us more conservative or something.

V7_Sport on May 14, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Ah, Unit 53472. Great to see you here. His Royal Highness King Willard the Eminently Electable thanks you for your service.

Dunedainn on May 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM

I am excited to vote for Rubio in 2016…..I wasn’t for Romney.

Rubio is not like Romney.

terryannonline on May 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM

I’m glad to see you’re excited to vote for amnesty.

Dunedainn on May 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Two points:

First, if the Republicans want to nominate a boring, non-charismatic male, try one with actual accomplishments and administrative experience, like Gov. Walker. Rubio brings nothing to the table but a Hispanic genome (and yes, I know there’s no such thing).

Plus, and this is not a small thing (I slay myself) Rubio is 5’9″. Short guyz don’t make it to the Oval Office (Walker is 6’1″, as is Rick Perry)

Second, as a woman it infuriates me that a talentless, grimy-hearted hack like Hillary who has never done ANYTHING useful in her life except choose not to divorce Bill so she could ride his coattails, being lauded as UBER_WOMAN! and the perfect, the inevitable First Wymynz Preznit.

There are so many fabulous, accomplished, brilliant women in this country and Hillary is the best that the Left can scrape off the sidewalk??

If I were black, I’d be so dismayed that the Obamas were the First, and I just want you fellas to know LOTS of women (all who possess common sense, anyway)do not feel any desire to elevate that she-devil to prominence, first electable woman president or not (not!).

But you know what? This depresses me. Women are stupid. Take the vote away from us before we destroy this country with our lady parts and our dependence, please.

Dolce Far Niente on May 14, 2014 at 10:25 PM

I am excited to vote for Rubio in 2016…..I wasn’t for Romney.

Rubio is not like Romney.

terryannonline on May 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Yeah he is a whore without a big lovely family.

Murphy9 on May 14, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Yeah he is a whore without a big lovely family.

Murphy9 on May 14, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Wow. Stay classy.

terryannonline on May 14, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Here is the problem for Rubio and the republican party. His new centrism is probably enough to win him the party nomination. It also enough to guarantee he will get a single conservative vote just like Romney before him. And so will lose the general election just as Romney did.
Do establishment republicans want to go down this road a 3rd time?
Ho-hum

paulsur on May 14, 2014 at 10:31 PM

I’m glad to see you’re excited to vote for amnesty.

Dunedainn on May 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Nah I won’t be voting for amnesty.

Amnesty will probably already be passed by then anyways.

terryannonline on May 14, 2014 at 10:31 PM

But you know what? This depresses me. Women are stupid.

Dolce Far Niente on May 14, 2014 at 10:25 PM

.
With a 30-40%, continuous, HS drop out rate for years, we are a very stupid country. The dumbing down process has been very successful.I wouldn’t single out just the women.
.
It takes a village full of idiots…….

FlaMurph on May 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM

I can’t wait till America is just a jaurez norte full of depraved lunatics fulfilling their basest desires.

viva amnesty!

Murphy9 on May 14, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Is Harsanyi going to do a post on Paul’s pandering and opposition to a 70-30 issue such as Voter ID? I mean Paul is Harsanyi’s guy after all, I can understand if he doesn’t want to talk about that, but its Paul’s blatant pandering that’s in the news now not Rubio’s. Rubio’s pandering will be in the headlines next week I’m sure though.

MWC_RS on May 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM

His new centrism

You realize the guy has been openly pandering to the Right by being hardcore for almost a year now. In fact throughout his near 4 year Senate career the only thing centrist about his record has been immigration, and that’s when he went off into Left field.

Paul on the other hand has miraculously maintained his “tea party” cred while supporting amnesty ( but pussying out of voting for Rubio’s bill) opposing sanctions on Iran, opposing sanctions on Russia, opposing something as popular as voter ID, supporting Mitch McConnell to the hilt ( as opposed to Rubio’s soft support of Mitch)

And his soft support for the Defund effort ( as opposed to Rubio’s hardline support right up there with Cruz, Lee, and Scott)

MWC_RS on May 14, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Rubio is just very young for the heights he has already climbed. The great teacher is experience, of course, and he needs plenty more. Serve a term or two in the Senate, run for Governor of Florida and do well enough to get reelected with a big majority, and then we’ll talk about higher office.

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Same goes for Cruz and Paul and any other member of Congress with an eye on a White House bid. Look at Mike Pence, John Kasich, Bobby Jindal, Mark Sanford (yeah, just forget that girlfriend stuff for a second). They all went back home and ran for Governor. They all increased their experience and stature (as long as they kept to business).

This is how people gain enough experience to run the biggest operation in the world, the US federal government. Not by giving good speeches.

Adjoran on May 14, 2014 at 11:45 PM

In retrospect, Rubio just comes across as a politician, not a leader. He’ll never get my vote in 2016. Maybe in 2028 after proving himself to be a conservative governor otherwise I see him as another flip flopper.

AH_C on May 15, 2014 at 12:23 AM

Quick! Lets torpedo Rubio just like we did Romney! We are CONSERVATIVES, or at least we play conservatives on the Internet in order to whip up a bandwagon of support against electable candidates so we can get Hillary elected!

crosspatch on May 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM

I plugged my nose and pulled the lever for mccain.
I choked on my own vomit pulling the lever for romney.

I’m not listening to these moderate centrists anymore. No more GOPe for me.

Hell no to rubio.

Not doing it again, moderates, RINOs, centrists…..

G F Y

YOU people gave us obama, and you want us to listen to you again.

I repeat….G F Y.

Diluculo on May 15, 2014 at 1:05 AM

Quick! Lets torpedo Rubio just like we did Romney! We are CONSERVATIVES, or at least we play conservatives on the Internet in order to whip up a bandwagon of support against electable candidates so we can get Hillary elected!

crosspatch on May 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM

Seriously?
You think a one-term junior senator who held hands with Chuckie Schumer like a freshman girl invited to the senior prom and got rolled like a drunk is our best hope in 2016?

Well, you and your pals go on ahead. We’ll wait right here until someone with the stones to be the President we need comes along.

And baby, we didn’t torpedo Romney- we voted for him. He sunk his own damn self, freakin’ smile-sweetly-and-say-nothing-all-summer-while your ass-is-getting-kicked Romney.

Other crappy go along to get along candidates will perform exactly as well, so you can chalk that unprecedented third Presidential loss in a row to Electable!!111eleventy!!11.

Dolce Far Niente on May 15, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Other crappy go along to get along candidates will perform exactly as well, so you can chalk that unprecedented third Presidential loss in a row to Electable!!111eleventy!!11.

Dolce Far Niente on May 15, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Well, if the ticket ends up being jeb/rubio, or some similar disaster, you can bet on one thing; we won’t be fighting the effing GOPe for much longer because they won’t be able to raise enough money to start a lemonade stand let alone shoot for higher office.

The liberals may burn this country down, but, as Turisas sings in their ballad “The End Of An Empire”;

The time is here
Time to be brave, let others fear
We know the walls will fall
But out of the ashes a new day will dawn

A new day will dawn indeed, and it will be bloody as hell. At this point one could say that if only those moderates grew some balls and offered up a real patriotic conservative candidate that things would be different. Too late to wonder, this I think is the last before “the walls fall”.

Happy dreams!

Diluculo on May 15, 2014 at 1:24 AM

Rubio is not to be trusted at all.

David Blue on May 15, 2014 at 1:30 AM

The establishment has almost destroyed the GOP. I’ll never, never vote for one again.

rdbrewer on May 15, 2014 at 2:51 AM

Adjoran on May 14, 2014 at 11:45 PM

A Governor like Woodrow Wilson?????

Brock Robamney on May 15, 2014 at 5:27 AM

Ah, Unit 53472. Great to see you here. His Royal Highness King Willard the Eminently Electable thanks you for your service.

Dunedainn on May 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Whatever that meant.

Thanks for Obama.

V7_Sport on May 15, 2014 at 6:25 AM

Thanks for Obama.

V7_Sport on May 15, 2014 at 6:25 AM

Thank ORCA.

David Blue on May 15, 2014 at 7:18 AM

If “Boner” and the House pass Amnesty I’m not voting for anyone in 2016 because “At this point, what difference does it make?” We’ll be overwhelmed by “new” voters and the situation hopeless.

philw1776 on May 15, 2014 at 8:03 AM

Hey, whatever “THEY” want Rubio to be seen as, it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a liberal “progressive” LOSER.

Pork-Chop on May 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

I agree

WarEagle01 on May 15, 2014 at 9:01 AM

I’m so tired of getting the short end of the stick candidate wise. The media the “donors”, the “experts” are always trying to push the “safe” GOP candidate.

I was too young to remember Reagan’s first election. I just want that again. A candidate that kicks serious ass.

gophergirl on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Reagan grew government and granted amnesty

Some of people on this site need to do their history homework

Rubio is a great choice. He is a minority who would generate excitement among regular/average voters who don’t follow and live politics. A white man will NEVER win the White House again. Over and done

Redford on May 15, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Camera pans to ground… Hillary Clinton running, dodging between burned out cars…

oscarwilde on May 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Hillary running…no, I just can’t see that. And I get a headache trying.

leftamark on May 15, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Loser is the new loser.

ELECTABILITY!

Murphy9 on May 15, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Thanks for Obama.

V7_Sport on May 15, 2014 at 6:25 AM

Thank You for Obama part II.
That is wholly 100% on Romney and those who forced him onto us.

astonerii on May 15, 2014 at 11:15 AM

Hillary running…no, I just can’t see that. And I get a headache trying.

leftamark on May 15, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Remember, she outran the bullets at Tuzla Airport, leading her team to safety and victory in the face of sniper fire.

David Blue on May 15, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Not a Rubio fan… but being a polished speaker isn’t a bad thing in politics.

V7_Sport on May 14, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I agree with your advice for Rubio. He should definitely work harder on becoming a polished speaker.

steebo77 on May 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Quick! Lets torpedo Rubio just like we did Romney! We are CONSERVATIVES, or at least we play conservatives on the Internet in order to whip up a bandwagon of support against electable candidates so we can get Hillary elected!

crosspatch on May 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM

The notion of torpedoing Rubio implies that he is still seaworthy.

Also, Romney sank due to damage inflicted by 1) the media, 2) the corrupt federal bureaucracy, 3) his incompetent/mercenary campaign apparatus, and 4) himself. Internet conservatives are at highest a distant 5th on that list.

steebo77 on May 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Other crappy go along to get along candidates will perform exactly as well, so you can chalk that unprecedented third Presidential loss in a row to Electable!!111eleventy!!11.

Dolce Far Niente on May 15, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Bravissima! Complimenti, sorella!

Jayrae on May 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM

What, exactly, has he accomplished as a Senator?

Carnac on May 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Redford on May 15, 2014 at 9:29 AM

YES. Some people really need to do their homework. Like you

Brock Robamney on May 15, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Rubio was Mormon during his formative years. Then his family converted back to Catholic.

So the Religion thing is another thing they had in common. At least for awhile.

portlandon on May 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM