Chamber of Commerce head to GOP: If you don’t pass amnesty this year, don’t bother running a candidate in 2016

posted at 8:01 pm on May 12, 2014 by Allahpundit

Politico claims he was joking but I’m not sure why. This guy’s only saying what the entire Republican leadership thinks.

Maybe the “joke” is that he’s pretending to care about the political implications of amnesty and the fate of the GOP when all he really wants is cheap labor.

“If the Republicans don’t do it, they shouldn’t bother to run a candidate in 2016,” Donohue joked at an event on infrastructure investment in D.C. “Think about that. Think about who the voters are. I just did that to get everybody’s attention.”…

“You think Congress can get immigration reform done this year, in an election year?” moderator Eamon Javers asked Donohue.

“Yes, yes,” Donohue replied.

National Association of Manufacturers President Jay Timmons said he also thought immigration reform could pass this year, perhaps in a lame-duck session.

I’ve been thinking they wouldn’t dare try something as sneaky as passing immigration reform during the lame-duck, but realistically there are only three “windows” left before the 2016 election. One is this summer, if Boehner decides (stupidly) that he can’t afford to let Obama out-pander the GOP on immigration yet again by “relaxing” U.S. deportation policy before the midterms. I think passing something this year is less likely than it used to be, though, now that ObamaCare isn’t quite the catastrophe for Dems that it looked to be back in October. If Boehner’s going to risk amnesty, he wants the party to be in a position of absolute strength so that even a small fall-off in turnout doesn’t cripple it on election day. Right now the party seems a bit weaker than it was a few months ago. That fall-off could cost the GOP a race or two if current conditions hold.

The second window is early next year after the new Congress is seated. Boehner might decide to start the session off with a big “achievement” on immigration, to get it done and get it out of the way knowing that grassroots righties will revolt short-term but that most will forgive and forget in the interest of beating Hillary once it’s time to vote in 2016. The window here is small, though — just a few months before Republican presidential candidates start declaring and the primary campaign begins, as GOP contenders won’t want to deal with the issue on the trail. Doing it next year also gives ammo to amnesty opponents to argue that the issue is simply too hot to touch in a presidential election cycle and will tear the party apart if it happens. And by 2015, Obama’s saber-rattling about granting an executive mass amnesty will be louder than ever. If the GOP’s serious about not trusting him to enforce the law, those threats will only hurt the cause in the House.

Which leaves us with the third window, the lame duck. There’ll be no worries then about Republicans staying home in the midterms to protest the new amnesty law, as there would be if Boehner passed something this summer, and having it done before the new Congress is seated would give GOP leaders a chance to start fresh in January with a new agenda to help conservatives move on. Just one problem: If Boehner’s serious about coming back as Speaker next year, the lame-duck would be the worst possible time to pass something. It’ll look cowardly to amnesty opponents since the lame-duck is a moment of minimal congressional accountability and it’ll be fresh in everyone’s minds when the vote for the new Speaker happens in January, galvanizing anti-Boehner forces. He’s probably done as Speaker if he decides to go ahead with this in November. Is he prepared to make that sacrifice?

Exit quotation from the man himself: “We’ve got a lot of good candidates out there, and yes, Jeb Bush is my friend, I think he’s make a great president. And I’ve been nudging him for some time.”


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Conservative voter: “If you pass amnesty, don’t bother running a candidate in 2016 because we won’t be voting for you.”

Good luck, Chamber of Cheap Illegal Labor.

xNavigator on May 12, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Can we say blackmail? For the record I think the GOP with the right candidate can win without amnesty.

Rand Paul for president.

coolrepublica on May 12, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Ex-GOP voter to Chamber of Commerce:

GFY, you treasonous weasels!

And the Weeping Boner and his gang of Vichy scumbags can all GFThemselves, too.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 12, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Screw em.

Funny how the left loves the Big Biz crap including not only amnesty but also Obamacare.

CW on May 12, 2014 at 8:06 PM

My message to the Chamber and the RINOelites: GO F*** YOURSELF

reddevil on May 12, 2014 at 8:06 PM

We need a national movement to boycott all entities affiliated with the treason scum that is the Chamber of Horrors …

ShainS on May 12, 2014 at 8:07 PM

YES, what they said above! 1000x

MistyLane on May 12, 2014 at 8:08 PM

The Chamber of Commerce just voted to have themselves abolished. The sooner, the better. #AbolishTheChamberofCommerce

oscarwilde on May 12, 2014 at 8:08 PM

America is short on criminals and long on jobs.

What’s the perfect solution? More illegal immigration!

This way we empty out all of our prisons (So they can vote Democrat) and everyone has a job.

Right?

Oh wait….

Baggi on May 12, 2014 at 8:08 PM

He’s headed to retirement in Florida…he’s “on borrowed time”.

d1carter on May 12, 2014 at 8:09 PM

CoC has been co-opted.

rbj on May 12, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Boycott the Chamber of Commerce…at all levels.

d1carter on May 12, 2014 at 8:10 PM

“Ask not what your Chamber can do for your country.

Ask what invading illegals can do for us.”

————-Benedict Donohue

viking01 on May 12, 2014 at 8:11 PM

The GOP is stupid enough to do this. However, although the establishment has done ok so far in primaries, there are many left to go.

I actually think Cantor could lose after his hand picked ally was defeated in the convention last weekend.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/11/VA-Tea-Party-Ousts-Top-Eric-Cantor-Ally-on-His-Home-Turf

If Cantor ends up losing, it will send a HUGE message to the rest of the party. There is no danger of the seat flipping either, since no D is running.

cat_owner on May 12, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Me to Chamber of Commerce…

GFY!

celt on May 12, 2014 at 8:11 PM

My BORDER STATE Senators are owned by them, lock, stock, and barrel.

Treasonous bastards that they are.

wolly4321 on May 12, 2014 at 8:12 PM

We need several thousand citizens to descend on this guys house, peacefully assemble in protest, raid his refrigerator, run up his phone bill, completely and utterly make themselves at home, etc. If his yard gets destroyed in the process, his family becomes afraid for their lives and anything else gets broken, that’d be a terrible shame, and wrong, very very wrong. Everyone should be very careful that nothing bad happen while they’re there.

Midas on May 12, 2014 at 8:12 PM

The Republican senate will take care of that.
The fix is already in.
The destruction of this great nation has been accelerated on multiple levels.
They will run Rubio in 2016 and he will get trounced by Hillary.

weedisgood on May 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM

All in the same day Weasel Boehner threatens Lying Lois Lerner with the soft cushions and comfy chair.

viking01 on May 12, 2014 at 8:15 PM

The top Republicans don’t have the guts for it, but the perfect solution to this is to call the chamber of commerce on this. Just say, “We are not passing an immigration bill until the border is secured. Period. So, if you want to go to the democratic side, have at it. We will run against you (Chamber of Commerce) and the democrats and we will win.” That would be shaking things up.

CL on May 12, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Ordinary American Who is Tired of Being Sh*t On By the GOP: If you do pass amnesty don’t bother running a candidate in 2016.

Ted the Average on May 12, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Hey, I bet the COC is against raising the minimum wage and breaking unions too.

vlad martel on May 12, 2014 at 8:17 PM

$17 trillion +++++++ in debt and growing bigger by the second, something is going to bust real soon!!
Illegals may as well head south, since we’ll all be working for peanuts.

woodhull on May 12, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Follow the money….

d1carter on May 12, 2014 at 8:18 PM

If they already have the dems in their back pocket, why do they need the GOP?

eclark1849 on May 12, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Of course the CoC has been taken over by the Enemy, or at least by r-Strategist types who are highly sensitive to how others think of them.

Went to the local CoC website; looked at current CoC “leadership” board – it looks like random 20-somethings grabbed from out front of a SXSW venue.

The CoC doesn’t deliver a product so it is a perfect fit for recent college grads who break out in a rash over the idea of “profits”, are heavily into social media and popularity contests and consider businesses that support LGBT issues, social justice and amnesty as “responsible companies” – all others are evil Koch wannabes and must be destroyed.

Reuben Hick on May 12, 2014 at 8:22 PM

This is why I refused to for my company to join the Chamber…

right2bright on May 12, 2014 at 8:23 PM

The Push is on and won’t let up ’til…? The reality is that the southern border is porous, has been porous, and will be porous until the end of the Republic (some would ague it’s already here). The country will, probably, become more Balkanized, based on income, language, social cohorts – you name it. PC will reign supreme, with laws everywhere making it unlawful to ‘offend’ anyone , other than Conservatives, Christians and whites(Caucasian Americans?). But, the good news? We’ll all be toked up and won’t give a damn. Crony Kapitalism will be codified into the Living Constitution, while the rest of us peones feed the Machine.

vnvet on May 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Tea Party gets lesson about the real power in America part 2,000.

libfreeordie on May 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

And just where is the chamber going to go? the repubs choice is alienating more than 50% of their voters, a lot of whom who will stay home like they did in the last election, or alienate someone that doesn’t really have any other place to go and only has a few voters behind them……

The chamber appears to be proverbially about to slam that certain part of their anatomy in the car door…….

I don’t understand why the Chamber wants the Republicans to commit suicide as the vast majority of the illegals will vote Democratic and since there are more of them in the southern states where the Repubs have built their base, it will only turn Texas purple or blue along with the other border states…….

But Chamber, you, the country club repubs go ahead and get your “Boehners” out there between the car doors,

we’ll listen for your yell……..

colonelkurtz on May 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Any even slightly informed and intelligent “conservative” voter must, by this point, be seriously wondering just what actually lies ahead for this country.

It’s a cliche, that looks like hyperbole, on comment boards like this that there are not two parties, but one fusion party. On illegal immigration, it would appear there is nothing exaggerated about that claim.

One thing I never see mentioned in these discussions. Leave aside the enormous damage – social, economic, institutional – that unregulated, illegal immigration has wreaked on the US, esp. border communities, school districts, hospitals, etc. Leave out the nail-spitting outrage of amnestying lawbreakers while putting millions through the ringer of legal immigration, while sending out Border Patrol to dangerous situations under often absurd ROEs. Completely ignore, for a moment, the catastrophic erosion of our society’s most important intangible – the rule of law – that has been occurring and would be magnificed many fold by amnesty.

Just focus for a second now how disastrously, obviously stupid amnesty would be, as policy, and how it would instantly and surely fail in its own terms. Anything other than strict application of current laws will lead to another gigantic wave of illegal immigration, just as the 1986 amnesty did. Illegal immigrants, for the most part, are rational. Anything like amnesty now, and millions more will – rationally – simply continue to leave out laws, rule of law, or enforcement entirely from their calculations. A de facto open border – but still with families dying in the desert abandoned by coyotes, BP agents out-gunned and betrayed at every step, etc.

This is a dumbed down, unserious nation, just dumb enough to do this. After all, look what it’s doing to its medical finance system right now. With as many vile, stupid, short-sighted, irresponsible rent-seekers nudging the catastrophe along as normal, sensible citizens trying to stop or undo it.

IceCold on May 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

$17 trillion +++++++ in debt and growing bigger by the second, something is going to bust real soon!!…..
woodhull on May 12, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Tea Party gets lesson about the real power in America part 2,000.

libfreeordie on May 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

And dimphuckinwit cares not what this means for America. Phuck you libfree.

CW on May 12, 2014 at 8:26 PM

“If the Republicans don’t do it, they shouldn’t bother to run a candidate in 2016,” Donohue joked at an event on infrastructure investment in D.C. “Think about that. Think about who the voters are. I just did that to get everybody’s attention.”…

You did, in the worst way. I don’t think the voters are overwhelmingly sympathetic to your position, Donohue, but you obviously think they are.

rickv404 on May 12, 2014 at 8:26 PM

As Nigel Farage would say, this guy Donohue has the charisma of damp rag.

Wigglesworth on May 12, 2014 at 8:27 PM

now that ObamaCare isn’t quite the catastrophe for Dems that it looked to be back in October

What are you talking about? A magic number of eight million people, of whom an unknown but seemingly quite sizable percentage are Medicare and/or were previously insured. And we still haven’t seen a breakdown on the demographics, but it’s pretty easy to guess that the majority of them are NOT healthy young people.

The lies that were told are almost endless, from saving $2500 a year to keeping your doctor. That in and of itself should be enough to destroy anybody who voted for this, in the dead of night, using every dirty trick and finally having the very definition of the law rewritten by a Supreme.

And what do we see? Higher premiums, higher deductibles, smaller networks. People losing their doctors. Politically motivated exemptions as far as the eye can see. Back end processes still not in place. Hundreds of millions in wasted taxpayer funds, for state exchanges that are shutting down.

How can it be MORE catastrophic? Please, tell me. The ONLY reason they’ll get away with this is if our Incredibly Squishy Democrat Lites in Congress, in the media, and in these very columns, continue to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

This isn’t as benign as a catastrophe. This is a planet-killing asteroid of epic proportions. There has NEVER been a piece of legislation so horribly toxic to the American populace, and to even consider it otherwise is to be suffering from a Stockholm Syndrome of incredible magnitude.

AJsDaddie on May 12, 2014 at 8:27 PM

google your Senators names and CoC.

That’s how I found out what they were doing in their spare time.

wolly4321 on May 12, 2014 at 8:27 PM

“If the Republicans don’t do it, they shouldn’t bother to run a candidate in 2016,” Donohue joked at an event on infrastructure investment in D.C. “Think about that. Think about who the voters are. I just did that to get everybody’s attention.”…

So…… Who the hell does Donohue think he is? And no, he might have been laughing when he said it, but the bastard wasn’t joking about what he thinks is the reality.

Happy Nomad on May 12, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I am sure Hillary values the Chambers agenda. Go the “F” ahead you idiot. Do not support the GOP if they don’t pass amnesty. FOAD! Blackmail will get you nothing. If you do pass amnesty, you will never win another election. If you think the hispanics are going to vote Republican, you are both ignorant and stupid.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on May 12, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I think the Chamber is about to learn a hard lesson as well…particularly Mr. Donohue…

d1carter on May 12, 2014 at 8:28 PM

When am I going to get a pass for breaking the law?

Cindy Munford on May 12, 2014 at 8:30 PM

We need a national movement to boycott all entities affiliated with the treason scum that is the Chamber of Horrors …

ShainS on May 12, 2014 at 8:07 PM

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Johnnyreb on May 12, 2014 at 8:31 PM

For anyone that didn’t know, Donahue’s family has ties to the Tammany Hall machine. Guess that clears things up a bit.

xblade on May 12, 2014 at 8:31 PM

I think the bigger joke is the GOP and their election chances. Way to blow your chances of getting another vote from your base

Brock Robamney on May 12, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Exit quotation from the man himself: “We’ve got a lot of good candidates out there, and yes, Jeb Bush is my friend, I think he’s make a great president. And I’ve been nudging him for some time.”

Good to know the Muppet-orange bastard considers giving a bunch of parasites amnesty as an act of love.

Happy Nomad on May 12, 2014 at 8:32 PM

As America has under-performed my darkest predictions for some time, I’m gonna predict that, in fact, the GOP will allow something disastrous to go ahead during the lame duck. Following an historic GOP romp in the mid-terms.

And that will be perhaps the most outrageous slap in the face for the electorate, and basic principles, and fairness, that has occurred in such a concrete way in generations. I have no predictions about the aftermath of such an outrage. But it will pretty much confirm the huge, unbridgeable gap between the populace and the ruling (didn’t say governing) “elites”.

IceCold on May 12, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Chamber of Commerce = zombie John Breckenridge

SouthernGent on May 12, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Tea Party gets lesson about the real power in America part 2,000.

libfreeordie on May 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

And socialists are closer to understanding why socialism NEVER works. Never.

Ever.

Newtie and the Beauty on May 12, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Any even slightly informed and intelligent “conservative” voter must, by this point, be seriously wondering just what actually lies ahead for this country.

The short answer?

A thousand years of darkness.

You can’t have a global burn down of wealth and have two generations of politicians, opinion makers, educators, clergy, business leaders and community activists pushing policies that are nearly 100% against human flourishing and expect any sort of real prosperity other than incremental improvements in our amusements and distractions.

In the meantime, the connected will do fine as they are grabbing all that they can while they can.

Reuben Hick on May 12, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Message to the GOP from We The People:

F**k Amnesty! Grow some damned balls and tell your liberal counterparts to take their amnesty and shove it, then put up some walls and refund border security! In other words, stop acting like a bunch of worthless wimps!

And while you’re at it, fire Boehner! He’s worthless!!!!

pilamaye on May 12, 2014 at 8:39 PM

CL on May 12, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Yes, it would be the right thing to do, but they prefer political suicide instead I guess.

cat_owner on May 12, 2014 at 8:40 PM

They showed their ugly heads here in Arizona back in 2007, when Gov. Napolitano signed HB 2779 requiring employers to verify eligibility of workers.

Gotta have their cheap labor.

Hill60 on May 12, 2014 at 8:41 PM

We need a national movement to boycott all entities affiliated with the treason scum that is the Chamber of Horrors …

ShainS on May 12, 2014 at 8:07 PM

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Johnnyreb on May 12, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Treason

noun

1. the offense of acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign.

2. a violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign or to one’s state.

3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.

I know exactly what it means and I stand by it …

ShainS on May 12, 2014 at 8:41 PM

So let me get this straight….the people who elect “our representatives” must be brushed aside in favor of the bottom line for businesses who can profit from cheap labor?

Mimzey on May 12, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Chamber of Commerce head to GOP: If you don’t pass amnesty and promise to create millions of new Dem voters this year, don’t bother running a candidate in 2016

Edited for accuracy.

All you folks who went through the time and trouble to enter the country legally and become citizens the old fashioned way, you were frakin’ fools.

The nation is going down a sh!thole. Hope I’m not around if/when it goes off a cliff. Until then I can only warn people. Hopefully it will just be a slow steady decline. Fast or slow the destination is the same. I see no other realistic alternatives at this point. The great grand well intentioned experiment in universal suffrage democracy will just have to run out its full course to failure.

farsighted on May 12, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Our little town here has a chamber of commerce but it isn’t tied to the national.

crankyoldlady on May 12, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Hahaha, funny joke, Donohue. I’m just glad we have people who are so much smarter than we are telling us what needs to be done. It would never have occurred to me to add millions of Dem voters to the rolls in order to give the GOP an edge.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater on May 12, 2014 at 8:45 PM

So…… Who the hell does Donohue think he is?

Happy Nomad

And who does HE think the voters are, lol? Does he think we live in Mexico or something? There were 127 million votes cast in 2012. 11 million of those were “Hispanic”.

xblade on May 12, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Can we say blackmail? For the record I think the GOP with the right candidate can win without amnesty.
Rand Paul for president.
coolrepublica on May 12, 2014 at 8:04 PM

except paul is all for amnesty

no amnesty

Garyinaz66 on May 12, 2014 at 8:47 PM

The Chamber of Commerce has figured out that they’re better off with Democrats, anyway. Now that government is big enough, there’s plenty of crony capitalism to go around for everybody. If you’re an established business, it’s cheaper to hire a lobbyist of two to get some bureaucrats to write regulations ensuring no new competition, than it is to try to figure out how to out-perform the competition.

You’d think that record numbers of unemployed Americans would drive down wages enough, but when most of them are happily living on the dole, you need to import more stupid immigrants to work – until they also figure out they can live on the dole.

And then you import some more.

We. Are. Doomed.

notropis on May 12, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Maybe the “joke” is that he’s pretending to care about the political implications of amnesty and the fate of the GOP when all he really wants is cheap labor.

Boom.

KMC1 on May 12, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Put the GOP and COC in Gene Hackman’s place in this clip with the GOP base in the place of the players. Oh, and passing amnesty = using Jimmy as a decoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUGtL5VuOaM

BuckeyeSam on May 12, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Donohue’s comments prompted some audience members to say, ” Wow. Wow!” while the moderator told people to tweet the comments. He went on to say that without immigration reform, the country would lose immigrants who trained at the “best universities in the world” and instead “send the work to where people are.” He also joked that if the “bottom level of workers” left the country, Americans would have to be the ones to pick up their mother-in-laws from the nursing home.

d1carter on May 12, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Exit quotation from the man himself: “We’ve got a lot of good candidates out there, and yes, Jeb Bush is my friend, I think he’s make a great president. And I’ve been nudging him for some time.”

Bush III or Clinton II — Which would you prefer as your next sovereign?

Are the Founding Fathers collectively spinning in their graves or just rolling over?

farsighted on May 12, 2014 at 8:50 PM

amnesty worked so well the past 8 (?? in some form) times we must do it again cause we know we’ll get it right this time….
yeah right.

dmacleo on May 12, 2014 at 8:51 PM

That is a very pithy statement. That’s exactly what’s going on.

crankyoldlady on May 12, 2014 at 8:52 PM

The 4 million wave goodbye .

Lucano on May 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM

the Chamber is planning to spend at least $50 million to crush the Tea Party, largely because of the movement’s opposition to amnesty legislation, which the Congressional Budget Office determined would lower the wages of American workers and which the Chamber has been coveting.

d1carter on May 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM

If Boehner’s smart, he’ll pass it this summer shortly after the primary smoke clears. I will be very surprised if he waits until the lame duck.

If he ends up losing the Speakership either because the GOP caucus boots him out or the Democrats take the House (highly unlikely even with passing amnesty, since most of the amnesty votes will be Democrat, and vulnerable GOPe’s will be able to get cover), Boehner knows he’ll always be able to find a plum job in either a Clinton or Bush Administration, or with agribusiness.

We are royally boned. What American Exceptionalism? It’s over.

This was inevitable when Romney lost and the pollsters blamed it on his anti-amnesty policy.

fadetogray on May 12, 2014 at 8:55 PM

It was meant as a rhetorical question but your response was stellar, Reuben Hick. I especially like “incremental improvements in our amusements and distractions” as the main form of economic advancement taking place. It certainly seems that way, already.

Of course you have the energy revolution taking place thanks to oil prices and unconventional recovery techniques – I admit to being lazy, but without the energy development the feds or states were not able to choke off, what would the US GDP delta be the last few years?

Anyway, you encapsulated the jaw-droppingly depressing scene quite well in that one paragraph.

IceCold on May 12, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Conservative voter: “If you pass amnesty, don’t bother running a candidate in 2016 because we won’t be voting for you.”
Good luck, Chamber of Cheap Illegal Labor.
xNavigator on May 12, 2014 at 8:04 PM

exactly.
why would I ever again vote republican if they create a permanent democrat voting majority causing us to lose on every issue while finishing of the middle class with amnesty?

Never again a vote for a republican if they pass amnesty, and to be completely clear ANY legalization of any sort is amnesty, anything that does not require illegal foreign invaders leave the country and restores our sovereignty IS amnesty.

even if they do not pass amnesty, I will not be voting for an candidate who does not agree to and sign the FAIR Pledge promising to choose American workers over foreign invaders.

Candidate Questionnaire: Will you promise to protect American workers?
American workers are facing desperate economic conditions. Wages have plummeted while millions of Americans have been pushed out of the labor force entirely. Youth unemployment is sky-high. Decades of record immigration have placed enormous stress on American jobseekers, taxpayers and communities. Yet politicians in Washington who claim to oppose “comprehensive immigration reform” are pushing legislation that would not only legalize millions of illegal workers but give mega-corporations millions of new foreign workers — depressing wages and reducing jobs for American workers. It is therefore essential that we know whether you will support TRUE immigration reform policies.
The FAIR Congressional Task Force invites all candidates across the country to put their position on immigration reform on the record.
PLEDGE:
http://fairtaskforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/FCTF_questionnaire.pdf

Garyinaz66 on May 12, 2014 at 8:58 PM

“If the Republicans don’t do it, they shouldn’t bother to run a candidate in 2016,” Donohue joked at an event on infrastructure investment in D.C. “Think about that. Think about who the voters are. I just did that to get everybody’s attention.”…

…got the message assole!…and now everybody that even affiliates with you…is getting mine!

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Oh , Cantor , Ryan , Boehner , and the rest of the soggy right
pack your bags kids .

Lucano on May 12, 2014 at 9:00 PM

tea Party gets lesson about the real power in America part 2,000. libfreeordie on May 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

So, do you condone it? I thought you progs were against that sort of thing.In spirit, if not in practice.

One would think you would join us in rejecting it.

wolly4321 on May 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Bush III or Clinton II — Which would you prefer as your next sovereign?

farsighted on May 12, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Give me The Queen Dowager. Much more likely that she’ll die in office, but her Regime and the sycophantic LSM whores would never let on … all the while, she’ll be re-elected (they’ll prop her mummified corpse up and use CGI to move her mouth) and Bubba will be running the show (as well as The White House whores).

Bread and circuses — if you’re going to do it, do it right!

ShainS on May 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM

AJsDaddie on May 12, 2014 at 8:27 PM

+++

GaltBlvnAtty on May 12, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Say, where does the National Black Chamber of Commerce stand on amnesty?

I remember that a few years ago its president, Harry Alford, told off Sen. Boxer in a hearing. He seemed like he had some stones.

BuckeyeSam on May 12, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Tom Donohue: his wiki listing doesn’t mention his political party but he has that liberal Phil Donahue look, right down to the hair. He was also a union truck drive early in his work life, so he could very well be a Democrat. He sure sounds like one in this attack. Make no mistake, it was an attack.

ExpressoBold on May 12, 2014 at 9:04 PM

the Chamber is planning to spend at least $50 million to crush the Tea Party, largely because of the movement’s opposition to amnesty legislation, which the Congressional Budget Office determined would lower the wages of American workers and which the Chamber has been coveting.

Wow , how much shall we each settle for ? Nope , sittin’ on my hands . ( so far )

Lucano on May 12, 2014 at 9:04 PM

This wikipedia thing about Tom Donohue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_J._Donohue

needs to be read. This is total machine politics. The left has their machine and the Cronies have their machine. the Chanber is the boss, giving its members the privilege of shaking down the RINO party

there is no longer any room for intellectual debate in this county…just the Cronies vs. the Left. Of course on this issue they are on the same side.

like the wiki piece says..people like Boehner and the varioius committee chairmen are just place holders now. They are being rolled by the powerful interests in their districts…coordinated by the chamber.

i am sure that many middle size businesses would prefer not to support the machine…but, what’s that cute say…you better be AT the table, otherwise you will be the main course.

but I would say let the chamber support Hillary. Go for it. Let’s have a real system rather that the left and RINO parties

r keller on May 12, 2014 at 9:04 PM

If Boehner passes amnesty, and the GOPe nominates Jeb (or Chris or Marco or any of the other pro-amnesty likely nominees), I’ll be looking forward to pulling the lever for Liawatha Warren.

My sole remaining goal with my worthless vote will be to hurt the GOPe and the CoC just as hard as I can. I don’t give a rat’s ass who manages the decline they will have made inevitable.

fadetogray on May 12, 2014 at 9:05 PM

, Cantor , Ryan , Boehner , and the rest of the soggy right pack your bags kids . Lucano on May 12, 2014 at 9:00 PM

You did see boehners primary,, right?

They aren’t going anywhere.

Not without pitchforks.

wolly4321 on May 12, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Fewer and fewer differences between the two ruling parties…….

d1carter on May 12, 2014 at 9:06 PM

["]And I’ve been nudging him for some time.”

Sexual innuendo is really unbecoming a RINO. It just doesn’t work.

Chuck Ef on May 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM

This is really simple….

Right out of the Democrats playbook :

Pretend to be serious about amnesty, then use procedural delays to stall in until after the November election.

Win the Senate and then in January pass a massive, twisted mess of a bill that promises amnesty, but declare “You’ll have to pass the bill to know what’s in it.”

Pass a bill so convoluted that the simple minded Obama will be duped into signing it.

Then set up exchanges for people to sign up for amnesty. Take four years to set them up and then have them not work, like Obamacare.

Meanwhile, secure the border.

Simple.

MichaelGabriel on May 12, 2014 at 9:09 PM

So, do you condone it? I thought you progs were against that sort of thing.In spirit, if not in practice.

One would think you would join us in rejecting it.

wolly4321 on May 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Of course I oppose the Chamber of Commerce using their campaign contributions to demand policy. I just don’t understand why you have a problem with what you have called “free speech?”

libfreeordie on May 12, 2014 at 9:10 PM

wolly4321 on May 12, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Well ?

Lucano on May 12, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Any even slightly informed and intelligent “conservative” voter must, by this point, be seriously wondering just what actually lies ahead for this country.

The short answer?

A thousand years of darkness.

You can’t have a global burn down of wealth and have two generations of politicians, opinion makers, educators, clergy, business leaders and community activists pushing policies that are nearly 100% against human flourishing and expect any sort of real prosperity other than incremental improvements in our amusements and distractions.

In the meantime, the connected will do fine as they are grabbing all that they can while they can.

Reuben Hick on May 12, 2014 at 8:38 PM

You just described Europe in the Middle Ages, following the fall of the Roman Empire. And you just specifically described the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire from the Sixth through the Twelfth Centuries A.D.

A shorter term for it is “feudalism”. And progressives love the idea, because it means “rule by a self-appointed elite’ with the power of life and death over everybody else, enforced by said elite’s armed, hired thugs”.

And the “Head of State” (King, Emperor, Lightworker, whatever) is either

1. A feckless wimp who doesn’t dare make a move without the OK of his “nobles” (Example; half the Byzantine Emperors), or

2. A raving homicidal loony who can be counted on to inflict as much mayhem as possible on everybody but his “nobles”, in the name of (Insert Appropriate Loony Bag Of Steaming Batsh!t Here). (Example; Philip II of Spain, Charles the Bold of Burgundy; at a lower level, Alexander Farnese, Duke of Parma.)

Both types, if properly aimed, can provide said “nobles” with endless opportunities to indulge in mass murder for fun and profit.

Which ultimately is what “progressivism” is all about; take everything from everybody else, then kill them.

After all, since they’re not of the “elite’”, they aren’t really human, anyway. And they’re just a threat to Holy Mother Gaia, you know.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 12, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Tea Party gets lesson about the real power in America part 2,000.
 
libfreeordie on May 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

 
It’s always fun to see these sorts of little accidents.
 
You realize which one of us is on the Chamber of Commerce’s team on this matter, right professor?

rogerb on May 12, 2014 at 9:13 PM

It appears the day of choosing is upon us.
Choose wisely.

yesiamapirate on May 12, 2014 at 9:15 PM

ObamaCare isn’t quite the catastrophe for Dems that it looked to be back in October

It’s not? Why not? Did somebody fix it when I wasn’t looking?

HotAirian on May 12, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I already am planning on not voting for my rep as he is on record supporting amnesty. So nothing they say will change my opinion on the matter. If the national GOP wants to commit suicide, who am I to judge. I will just start voting democrat since the GOP is so eager to have us amnesty more of their voters.

Call Obama’s bluff and see if he tries to pull another illegal order on the scale of amnesty. You will have states being called to split off from the US in ten seconds flat.

NWConservative on May 12, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Make sure you check who is sponsoring ads for Senators and congressmen. You will know who they are backing.

One running for Senator here in my state looked pretty good until I noticed the CoC was doing ads for him. Off the list.

Barred on May 12, 2014 at 9:25 PM

https://twitter.com/frankthorpNBC

Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 6h

Boehner: “I’m running for reelection, I expect to be Speaker” http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/boehner-another-full-term-im-living-borrowed-time-n103446

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Boehner on #2016: “Jeb Bush is my friend, I think he’d make a great president, and I’ve been nudging him for some time.”

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Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 7h

Asked if he’ll serve a full term, Boehner says, “Listen, I can’t predict what’s going to happen…I’m living on borrowed time.”

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Boehner: “I’m running for reelection, I expect to be Speaker.”

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Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 7h

Boehner on minimum wage hike: “It’s the wrong thing to do for the American people.”

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Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 7h

Boehner on increases in premiums from ACA: “It’s coming, oh it’s coming, it’s like a freight train.”

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Boehner on #CIR: “This is not about politics, this is not about elections, it’s about doing the right thing for the American people.”

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Boehner on anti-immigration wing on GOP party: “There are some members of our party that just don’t want to deal with this, it’s no secret.”

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Boehner on #CIR: “I think it’s important that we do this in chunks” says he “wouldn’t call it piecemeal.”

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Boehner talking Pres Obama and Immigration: “He’s going to have to do something to demonstrate some level of trustworthiness.”

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Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 8h

Boehner on Immigration: “Here’s my problem today, the president has decided he’s not going to adhere to the law.”

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Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 8h

Boehner on NRCC fundraising on #Benghazi: “I don’t know what the fundraising arm is doing…”

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Boehner: “I’m the most open and transparent person in Washington, DC”

canopfor on May 12, 2014 at 9:25 PM

It’s the oligarchs vs. us. They hate your guts.

Murphy9 on May 12, 2014 at 9:26 PM

This was inevitable when Romney lost and the pollsters blamed it on his anti-amnesty policy.

fadetogray

About two seconds after the results were finalized. It’s almost like it was planned or something.

xblade on May 12, 2014 at 9:26 PM

You realize which one of us is on the Chamber of Commerce’s team on this matter, right professor?

rogerb on May 12, 2014 at 9:13 PM

You actually don’t know my position on immigration reform.

libfreeordie on May 12, 2014 at 9:28 PM

You realize which one of us is on the Chamber of Commerce’s team on this matter, right professor?

rogerb on May 12, 2014 at 9:13 PM

He’s in favor of keeping worker wages down for the benefit of the top 2%.

butch on May 12, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Speaking of Immigration:

Bosnia and Herzegovina
23m
Minnesota man pleads not guilty to concealing criminal past when emigrating from Bosnia – @AP
read more on startribune.com

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/258974621.html

canopfor on May 12, 2014 at 9:33 PM

rogerb on May 12, 2014 at 9:13 PM

The nom you are speaking to has changed personalities. One must therefore consider the nom having been taken over by an imposter.

Bmore on May 12, 2014 at 9:33 PM

You actually don’t know my position on immigration reform.

libfreeorgan on May 12, 2014 at 9:28 PM

…I’m sure we can wait……….for another racist revelation!

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2014 at 9:36 PM

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