Four Pinocchios to Obama for “500 Republican filibusters” claim

posted at 8:01 am on May 9, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Perhaps Glenn Kessler should keep a log book of total Pinocchios given to the Obama administration. Giving them out four at a time doesn’t appear to be producing any improvement. Take last night’s speech at a fundraiser for the DCCC in their effort to return the speaker’s gavel to Nancy Pelosi. For some reason, Barack Obama focused on the Senate, and made this patently absurd claim:

“Here’s what’s more disconcerting.  Their [Republicans] willingness to say no to everything — the fact that since 2007, they have filibustered about 500 pieces of legislation that would help the middle class just gives you a sense of how opposed they are to any progress — has actually led to an increase in cynicism and discouragement among the people who were counting on us to fight for them.”

Since 2007 — when George W. Bush was President? We’ll get back to that in a moment. Democrats complain about Republican filibusters and often include regular cloture motions as part of their count, but what they don’t explain is that cloture ends up being required because of the manner in which bills come to the floor. Harry Reid wants to limit the ability to offer amendments, and even then fills up the “amendment tree” to lock Republicans out of the process. At least some of the cloture calls are required because of this strategy.

But even if one counted all of those as filibusters, Obama’s claim still wouldn’t make any sense. Kessler counts up the actual filibusters — not just on legislation but all such actions — and gets 133 of them, not 500. Where did Obama get “over 500″?

Since 2007, there have been 527 cloture motions that have been filed, according to Senate statistics. This is apparently where Obama got his figure. But this tells only part of the story as many of those cloture motions were simply dropped, never actually voted on, or “vitiated” in the senatorial nomenclature. …

But, even if you accept the way Senate Democrats like the frame the issue, the president is still wrong. He referred to “legislation”—and most of these cloture motions concerned judicial and executive branch nominations. In the 113th Congress, for instance, 83 of the 136 cloture motions so far have concerned nominations, not legislation.

That’s why Harry Reid’s rule change focused on those nominations, and not legislation.

Even then, while Obama referred to “500 pieces of legislation,” the same bill can be subject to as many as three cloture motions, further inflating the numbers. For instance, there may be cloture to get on the bill, cloture on the substitute bill (if lawmakers are simply using an unrelated bill as a vehicle for passage), and cloture on the underlying bill. All of these votes might take place on the same day, but it creates the illusion of the same bill being “filibustered” three times. It certainly does not mean there were three pieces of legislation. So far in the 113th Congress, 36 pieces of legislation were subject to a cloture motion—and 12 were actually filibustered. That’s a far cry from the 136 that Obama is counting in order to tally up 500.

But there’s one more glaring problem with Obama’s tally — and a glaring hypocrisy. Don’t forget that Obama served in the Senate for a half-term before becoming President. And guess who voted in support of a filibuster eight times in thirteen months?

Kessler concludes:

On just about every level, this claim is ridiculous.

That’s true of many of Obama’s claims. I’d bet the number of Pinocchios earned by this President far outstrips the count of actual filibusters on Obama’s legislation, which Kessler puts at around 50. Maybe Kessler can do a fact-check on that claim.


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Oil Can on May 9, 2014 at 8:05 AM

The smartest president ever…

crazywater on May 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM

How long before Kessler gets his IRS proctological exam?

Steve Eggleston on May 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM

The joke that is obama is becoming an even bigger joke.

rjh on May 9, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Perhaps Glenn Kessler should keep a log book of total Pinocchios given to the Obama administration. Giving them out four at a time doesn’t appear to be producing any improvement.

Oh please. Kessler (D-WaPo) is a dishonorable and despicable weasel. He usually gives the rat-eared wonder a couple of Pinocchios for the same kind of stuff he gave GWB exponential Pinnochios. This is one of the rare occasions when the lie is too big even for a propagandist like Glenn Kessler.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Where did Obama get “over 500″?

From Former Press Van Driver White House spokesman Tommy Vietor, dude

Scottie on May 9, 2014 at 8:17 AM

Obama’s ear’s grow when he lies..

Electrongod on May 9, 2014 at 8:17 AM

Elected twice.

That’s some amount of stupid voting, America hating, and, I suspect, absurd white guilt.

Walter Williams wrote in March 2008 that Obama was no Jackie Robinson. Of course, Williams was right.

BuckeyeSam on May 9, 2014 at 8:18 AM

So Obama lied, for… like… the 500th time.

This year.

IndieDogg on May 9, 2014 at 8:20 AM

I don’t know what’s happened to the American Presidency…

A well-intentioned man sends men and women off to war to crush a movement aimed at our destruction and he is roundly vilified ad nauseum.

Two others – one who is fellated in the Oval Office by an intern old enough to be his daughter and one other (who just might get fellated if he weren’t such a eunuch) who cannot control his propensity to lie – are celebrated as wonderful, historic figures.

Pathetic…

dpduq on May 9, 2014 at 8:20 AM

This is the same kind of Omath used to claim 8 million signed up for Ocare. It must be based on common core.

Kissmygrits on May 9, 2014 at 8:22 AM

On just about every level, this claim president is ridiculous.

The blanket statement saves Kessler the added effort of having to go over Obama’s Harry Reid-like claims one by one for debunking.

jon1979 on May 9, 2014 at 8:22 AM

Counting is racist.

Ted the Average on May 9, 2014 at 8:22 AM

Where does Obama have more “four”s?
Golf Course or Fact Checker:

airupthere on May 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM

But, but, but Republicans!

ButterflyDragon on May 9, 2014 at 8:25 AM

This is the same kind of Omath used to claim 8 million signed up for Ocare. It must be based on common core.

Kissmygrits on May 9, 2014 at 8:22 AM

Obama Admits He’s Struggles With Math Above 7th Grade Level: ‘I’m Pretty Lost’

“Well, the math stuff I was fine with up until about seventh grade,” Obama said. “But Malia is now a freshman in High School and I’m pretty lost.”

non-nonpartisan on May 9, 2014 at 8:27 AM

You don’t realize it because your moral compass doesn’t work properly, but that’s similar to why people don’t take you seriously regarding your stated position on the Benghazi investigations. You’re comfortable casually and unabashedly lying, so you don’t mind it in others so long as they’re on your team. You may even expect it for the any-means-necessary win.
 
After all, what they said wasn’t supposed to really hurt anything.
 
If I’m wrong link up or admit you were lying.

rogerb on May 9, 2013 at 3:26 PM

rogerb on May 9, 2014 at 8:27 AM

The most incompetent, the weakest, the most ignorant, the most immature, the most partisan, the biggest liar, and the dumbest President in the history of the Republic and by far… Everything good said about this fool is a lie, everything…

mnjg on May 9, 2014 at 8:28 AM

Everything that concerns obama, happens in fours.

upinak on May 9, 2014 at 8:29 AM

Kessler (D-WaPo)

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2014 at 8:08 AM

LOVE this!

Sue Doenim on May 9, 2014 at 8:34 AM

So what difference does it make?

Walter L. Newton on May 9, 2014 at 8:34 AM

“Well, the math stuff I was fine with up until about seventh grade,” Obama said. “But Malia is now a freshman in High School and I’m pretty lost.”

non-nonpartisan on May 9, 2014 at 8:27 AM

There has never been any doubt that the rat-eared wonder is functionally illiterate. He reads a teleprompter well and can shuck and jive with the best of them. But beyond that, he’s a lazy stupid human being. No intelligent person would call a Navy medic a corpse-man, put down the wrong year in the guest book at Westminster Abbey, refer to Hawaii as part of Asia, or side with Argentina in their dispute over the Maldives.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2014 at 8:37 AM

Liar in chief

cmsinaz on May 9, 2014 at 8:37 AM

“YOU LIE!”

Oh wait, that’s racist.

MistyLane on May 9, 2014 at 8:38 AM

If Obama’s nose actually grew when he lies he’d look more like Dumbo than Pinocchio, his ears already are there.

hip shot on May 9, 2014 at 8:50 AM

There’s another qualifier that Obama tacks on that would narrow this even further. Rather than merely “500 pieces of legislation,” he said “500 pieces of legislation that would help the middle class.”

Is he in effect saying things like amnesty and environmental legislation — and everything else on an Obama wish list — would help the middle class? What, and the “middle” class works for minimum wage?

Lolo on May 9, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Obama’s ear’s grow when he lies..

Electrongod on May 9, 2014 at 8:17 AM

If that was true he’d be flying with those racially profiled crows by now…

NiteOwl on May 9, 2014 at 8:54 AM

OT-

Speaking of Pinocchios, the Pope just gave a speech demanding global adoption of Marxism where nations redistribute wealth to the parasite class. Yet he still denies that he is a Marxist. You’d think the Pope wouldn’t also be a liar.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2014 at 8:55 AM

non-nonpartisan on May 9, 2014 at 8:27 AM

I dislike your handle… I keep thinking you are going to spout stupid… Meh, then you don’t live up to expectations.

LOLZ… It’s all good though/

NiteOwl on May 9, 2014 at 8:58 AM

In the 21st century it is difficult to find a significant statement made by Washington that is not a lie. Obamacare is a lie. Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction is a lie. Assad’s use of chemical weapons is a lie. Iranian nukes are a lie. Russia’s invasion and annexation of Crimea is a lie. No fly zones are a lie. Russian aggression against Georgia is a lie. 9/11, the basis for Washington’s destruction of civil liberty and illegal military attacks, is itself a lie. The fantastic story that a few Saudi Arabians without government or intelligence agency backing outwitted the entire national security apparatus of the Western world is unbelievable. It is simply not credible that every institution of the national security state simultaneously failed. That Washington would tell such a fantastic lie shows that Washington has no respect for the intelligence of the American people and no respect for the integrity of the American media. It shows also that Washington has no respect for the intelligence and integrity of its European and Asian allies.

Washington won’t even tell the truth about little things in comparison–jobs, unemployment, inflation, GDP growth, economic recovery. Washington rigs the markets in order to cover up its sacrifice of the economy for the benefit of a few special interests. In the name of “privatization,” Washington hands over public assets and government responsibilities to rapacious private interests.

The conclusion is inescapable that the US is a gangster state. Indeed, the US is worse than a mere gangster state. The US is a shameless exploitative tyranny.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on May 9, 2014 at 9:04 AM

This story is just more of the same.

Wake me when Oh says something truthful, intelligent or patriotic. That would be news.

FOWG1 on May 9, 2014 at 9:10 AM

YOU LIE!

GarandFan on May 9, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Once more we have confirmation of the Lillian Hellman Presidency:

Everything he says is a lie, including ‘and’ and ‘the’!

Another Drew on May 9, 2014 at 9:27 AM

This demonization of Republicans is red meat to the minority base. The Dems are desperate to turn out the black vote in November. Its a strategy that we ignore at our peril. I don’t care what historic trends about off year elections indicate. This us a different time. If he can rabble rouse minorities the Dems will win. Republicans have to point out that more blacks are unemployed than ever before under Obama, their healthcare is about to implode, and the economy is in the toilet. I listened to Obamas speech last night and it was disgusting. He was basically saying that “folks” need to turn out in November because the Republicans should never hold the house and senate. He stated it as if we have no right to a majority ever. His audience ate it up.

neyney on May 9, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Ah, come on! 5 is “about” 500, you racist pigs!

Gunlock Bill on May 9, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Doesn’t matter. Obama speaks it and the sheep that vote for the (D) believe it.

Pathetic.

Common Sense Floridian on May 9, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Climate Change has caused Harry Reid to go insane.

Now, how can I be against that ?

J_Crater on May 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM

One lie is as good as another when the ends justify the means.

Murphy9 on May 9, 2014 at 9:47 AM

They should come up with some kind of special award – maybe a little gold star – if this POS ever tells the truth.

TarheelBen on May 9, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Why didn’t he just say a zillion, and blame it on the Koch brothers?

Ward Cleaver on May 9, 2014 at 9:54 AM

They have not blocked 500 pieces of legislation. Obama just doubles down on the absurd…

sorrowen on May 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM

In the future we should no longer assign a number of Pinocchios to any liar’s false claims.

The bar has been lowered.

Let’s call them Obamas.

fogw on May 9, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Lying liar lies.

Intended audience hears the lies and believes them.

Someone comes along after and says, “well, actually that’s not true”… to no one, effectively.

Ask some f*ckwit in a week about Senate Republican obstruction and you’ll learn that those f*cking racist rethuglicans have filibustered like 5,000 pieces of legislation, condemning countless thousands of middle class and poor families to starvation…

*yawn*

Midas on May 9, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Lying liar lies.

Intended audience hears the lies and believes them.

Someone comes along after and says, “well, actually that’s not true”… to no one, effectively.

Ask some f*ckwit in a week about Senate Republican obstruction and you’ll learn that those f*cking racist rethuglicans have filibustered like 5,000 pieces of legislation, condemning countless thousands of middle class and poor families to starvation…

*yawn*

Midas on May 9, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Exactly. It doesn’t matter that he lies constantly and about everything. We’re living in a country full of idiots who think everything that comes out his mouth is gospel.

KateNE on May 9, 2014 at 10:32 AM

500 filibusters. One filibuster for every million people who lost their jobs per month according to then-Speaker Pelosi. At that rate, nobody on the planet would be working after a year.

Obama: Pick a number, any number, feed it to the press and see if it sticks.

To paraphrase Mark Twain, there are lies, d@mned lies, and Obama’s statistics.

Steve Z on May 9, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Apparently Obama is still running for office.

Anyone have any idea which one?

BobMbx on May 9, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Is he in effect saying things like amnesty and environmental legislation — and everything else on an Obama wish list — would help the middle class? What, and the “middle” class works for minimum wage?

Lolo on May 9, 2014 at 8:53 AM

You have to understand, the terms of the fascist statist narrative have changed.

They would have us believe there are only 2 classes now- the middle class and the elite. The bourgeoisie, the actual workers and business owners in this country are ignored and unnamed because there is no natural sympathy for the statist position and that of the free working person.

The middle class are now those who receive some level of government hand-out, so that things “which help the middle class” are really expansions of government largesse to the dependent section of the citizenry- nothing new about that, except the speed at which its occurring.

The elites are perfectly willing to listen to and even participate in tactics which include vilification of The Rich because they know none of it will be acted upon (because they themselves are the actors).

Meanwhile, the treasuries of the working population are being drained to provide additional wealth to the elites and more forms of gimmeedats to the “middle class”.

Dolce Far Niente on May 9, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Four Pinocchios to Obama for “500 Republican filibusters” claim

Obama’s ear’s grow when he lies..

Electrongod on May 9, 2014 at 8:17 AM

…they need to award him Four “Dumbos”!

KOOLAID2 on May 9, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Figures lie and liars figure. Never more true

jaywemm on May 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Dammit, Jim, he’s a community organizer, not a mathematician.

formwiz on May 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Apparently Obama is still running for office.

Anyone have any idea which one?

BobMbx on May 9, 2014 at 11:16 AM

I suspect he’s setting the stage for The Mooche to take over for his eventual third and fourth terms … just like Killary’s election would be Bubba’s third term.

ShainS on May 9, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Maybe his math skills are so poor he doesn’t know there is a difference between 12 and 500. Such a lack of ability would be in line with many of his speeches and policies.

talkingpoints on May 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

We’d be better off if Pinnochio was president.

TarheelBen on May 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Gee. He lies. Go figure.

Carnac on May 9, 2014 at 6:09 PM