Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on May 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

Stephanie stood by the grave being dug for her for 20 minutes. Lockett shot her, but his gun jammed. So he walked back to the truck to fix it, listening to Stephanie cry, “Oh God! Please! Please!” The three men laughed at her.

Then he returned and shot her again. But Stephanie was still breathing — so Lockett told the others to bury her anyway. She coughed as dirt was heaped on her face. She was buried alive…

In addition to plotting hits against the four witnesses against him, while in prison, Lockett repeatedly threatened guards, was caught with homemade weapons, destroyed prison property, and threw feces and urine at officers bringing him food…

Lockett was so violent that other prisoners refused to be housed in the same cell with him, even though they could be punished for their refusal…

This is the murderer whose recent execution has thrown liberals into deep despair.

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The real surprise in all these numbers is that while the South still accounts for most executions, it also accounts for a great deal of the drop. (When you start at the top, you have a long way to fall.) Compare the 1990s with the present, and capital sentencing turns out to be declining even in former Southern strongholds. In North Carolina, where concerns about racial fairness actually led to legislative action, no one has been executed in eight years. And there’s another Southern, red-turning-purple state that leaps out here: Virginia. In the last six years, only two defendants have received sentences for capital murder in the state. (One of the two asked for this.) Also, there are only eight people sitting on Virginia’s death row…

For starters, the politics shifted. “Most people are still ‘for it,’ but no one votes for or against a political candidate because of the death penalty anymore, which means that prosecutors can settle almost any case without suffering any political fallout,” a Virginia defense lawyer told me. In Virginia, juries know they can impose a sentence of true life without parole, a punishment that addresses both the fear of putting a murderer back on the streets and the desire for retribution. For the families of victims, life without parole can provide far more closure than a death sentence, which involve 15 years of appeals on average—not to mention the prospect that the killer of your child or brother or mother could become a kind of martyr. “If Oklahoma had given Lockett life without parole, he would have never been heard of again,” Stephen Bright, president and senior counsel at the Southern Center for Human Rights, pointed out to me…

Clayton Lockett’s nightmarish execution in Oklahoma exposed the flaw in the American system of state-imposed death that is actually the easiest to fix. If lethal injection becomes untenable, states bent on execution can bring back the firing squad. The problems that are much harder to address are the ones President Obama listed after Lockett died: racial bias, uneven application, and the haunting but real prospect of accidentally executing the innocent. These deep injustices have persisted for decades. And they tend to be worst in the holdout states, which is also where there’s little or no support for a functional system of defense lawyers. That’s why the American death penalty should fall of its own rotten weight.

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[W]e now know with near certainty that innocent people have been put to death. For example, Texas in 2004 executed Cameron Todd Willingham, who was convicted of the murder of his three children by arson. Experts have now concluded that the original investigation in his case was seriously flawed and did not prove that that arson even took place. And just this year, it was discovered that Willingham’s prosecutor made a deal with a jailhouse informant in exchange for his testimony that Willingham had confessed the murder to him—a deal the prosecutor never disclosed to the defense at trial.

Similarly, DNA tests conducted in 2010, in conjunction with a key witness recanting his testimony, raised serious doubts that Texas death row inmate Claude Jones committed the murder for which he was convicted. Jones was executed in 2000…

Why does America’s criminal justice system continue to convict and execute innocent people? Eyewitness accounts, long considered the gold standard in criminal jurisprudence, have proven to be unreliable. Many defendants are represented by lawyers who are completely unprepared to handle death-penalty cases, and too often, courts have been either unable or unwilling to re-examine cases in which defendants were not provided with adequate representation.

Even forensic science is riddled with error, despite what many Americans believe from watching CSI. In fact, 50 of the first 225 wrongful convictions overturned by DNA testing involved unproven or improper forensic science, according to research compiled by the Innocence Project, and the Department of Justice and the National Institute of Standards have now formed a new commission to develop standards for improving forensic science.

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For one, is it just? Starting from a pro-life point of view, it hardly seems consistent with a culture that values life. In fact, a couple of Republicans in Kentucky are reconciling that very notion right now. State Rep. David Floyd introduced a bill to repeal the state’s death penalty, arguing in the Louisville Courier-Journal that conservatives “should not support a state government program that can kill innocent people.”…

In the absence of any evidence that proves the death penalty reduces crime, we should continue asking serious questions about our commitment to it. (And might I remind fellow conservatives that we are quick to point out that there’s no evidence gun control reduces gun crime; we should apply the same level of scrutiny here.)…

In some states, a death penalty case can bankrupt a county. Seattle Times writer Jonathan Martin found that in Washington state, criminal justice costs consume 80% of county budgets, and administrators routinely worry about the financial devastation a capital case will cause.

Worse, states pay for the death penalty whether they use it or not. In New Jersey, prior to abolishing it, taxpayers spent more than a quarter-billion dollars on a capital punishment system that, over 23 years, executed no one.

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No one is immune to these emotions, but we should recognize them as such. The emotional urge to kill as a palliative to disconsolate pain is real and not rare. Does it work? I am lucky not to know.

Rationally, there is no redeeming return on a death warrant. Instead, by condoning state executions, especially under such controlled, calculated circumstances, we are passively complicit in the taking of a defenseless life. We don’t inject the cocktail, obviously, but by our consent to murder — even if we call it justifiable — we are part of the lion’s den. This is what concerns me most.

For the more practical-minded, there’s ample evidence that the death penalty doesn’t deter criminals. And though I’m amenable to the argument that the death penalty at least deters this particular killer from committing another crime, we are still trading one eye for another.

To my own vengeful eye, life in prison is far more excruciating than a 43-minute execution. Far worse is a confined life without privilege or diversion — except perhaps for books because reading keeps the mind sharp, all the better to remain alert to one’s malignant fate.

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Let’s have no illusions about what we’re doing when the state carries out the killing of captive prisoners. I imagine support for the death penalty would decline rather quickly once heads started rolling…

Even if there’s a case where there’s absolute certainty that the condemned is guilty, the execution still requires an executioner. Insofar as in individual takes on that role, he does damage to himself. (It’s no accident that firing squads are organized so that no one knows who fired the fatal shot.) And insofar as the executioner acts on behalf of society generally, he undermines that most crucial moral norm, the inviolability or sanctity of life.

This punishment isn’t worth the costs it imposes on us.

So let’s bring back the guillotine—and once it forces us to confront the barbarity of needlessly killing people who pose no threat to us, let’s abolish the death penalty. Countries without the death penalty get along just fine, and I don’t think Americans will be able to stomach it once they look it squarely in the face.

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Would Jesus Christ oppose the death penalty if he were present today? According to a recent Barna poll, most Americans think so. Only five percent of Americans believe Jesus would support the government’s ability to execute the worst criminals. This includes 2 percent of Catholics, 8 percent of Protestants, and 10 percent of all practicing Christians. Christian leaders, including the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, have also been some of the most outspoken opponents of executions. But overall, a majority of Americans back the death penalty…

Christians who support the death penalty often cite passages from the Old Testament that allowed for capital punishment. But Jesus told his followers not to observe the Jewish law that allowed for retributive justice: “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”…

Many forget that Jesus once served as a one-man jury on a death-penalty case. In a famous New Testament story, an adulterous woman was dragged to Jesus’ feet. The woman was guilty of a capital offense and had been caught in the act by at least one witness. The law mandated her death but Jesus prescribed a different response: “Let whoever is without sin cast the first stone.” He was teaching that only a perfect being—only God—should have power over death and life.

With Jesus’s stark words and example, no wonder early Christians opposed military service and the government-sanctioned killing of anyone for at least 300 years. “Our warfare is to make the dead to live, not to make the living dead,” St. John Chrysostom said.

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Can there be anything Obama does not know about capital punishment? The man was trained at an elite law school (Harvard) and later served as a law professor. The issue has been around since, probably, the first stoning, and nothing new can be said about it. Lockett, after all, is not the first condemned man to die slowly. It took the state of Ohio about 25 minutes — 20 minutes longer than usual — to kill Dennis McGuire last January. We now know it can be exceedingly difficult to kill the killers…

Capital punishment is totally a matter of one’s conviction. There is no science to it. George W. Bush’s convictions were well known. He adhered to a primitive eye-for-an-eye belief that was resistant to reason. As with almost everything — including the making of war — if Bush was comfortable with it, he did it.

With Obama, it’s just the opposite. His convictions regarding capital punishment waver. He supports it, but only when the crimes are, as he said last week, like “mass killings, the killings of children.” Still, his statements are so laden with caveats and conditions that it seems fair to say that Obama, as befits his background and education, would not weep if the United States joined most of the world and abolished capital punishment. We keep interesting company — North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia and some others. This is not our crowd.

Obama’s position may be evolving, as it did with same-sex marriage.

***

The most cynical argument against the death penalty is to point out how slow and expensive the process is. But it is slow and expensive at least in part because its opponents have made it slow and expensive, so they can complain about how slow and expensive it is.

As for humaneness, Lockett’s execution was botched — “inhumane” — in part because Oklahoma had to use a new drug regimen because death-penalty opponents had successfully lobbied the maker of a component of an earlier formula to stop making that drug available for executions.

Some believe the best argument against the death penalty is the fear that an innocent person might be executed. It’s hotly debated whether that has ever happened, but it’s clear that innocent people have been sent to death row. Even one such circumstance is outrageous and unacceptable.

But even that is not an argument against the death penalty per se. The FDA, police officers, and other government entities with less constitutional legitimacy than the death penalty (see the Fifth and 14th amendments) have made errors that resulted in innocent deaths. That doesn’t render these entities and their functions illegitimate. It obligates government to do better.

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Ratso!

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Full circle…

Electrongod on May 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Clayton Lockett didn’t suffer ENOUGH.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM

But thank gawd Obama is on the scene…

Electrongod on May 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM

circle of life

RickB on May 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Fcuking scum of the earth. Glad the monster is dead…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Evening All

every time I read or hear about this story, ugh. My heart breaks even more. I’ll volunteer to shoot him just to make sure he is dead.

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 10:08 PM

We are getting t-storms, Thank God…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:08 PM

It’s not possible to create a civilization that contemplates laws, courts, mercy, and justice without putting people to death when they’ve committed crimes the just penalty for which is putting them to death. Like every other penalty, we have the responsibility to determine when that penalty is just. There should be no conversation about deterrence — deterrence has no place in the balances. Neither have feelings; not “vengeance,” not a mixture of pride and childish fearfulness like yours.

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 8:56 PM

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2014/05/07/the-death-penalty-condemns-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2712542

^ On topic. “Yours” was Parker.

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:08 PM

I have spamming to do. Where’s young SparkPlug? I don’t want him to miss this. I’m trying to educate him.

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:09 PM

I don’t feel strongly about the death penalty, although why a man sentenced to death dying is some big deal escapes me. That said life in prison isn’t always life in prison.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Let us all pray that Trey Gowdy’s Select Committee doesn’t turn out to be as ballless and impotent as Darrell Issa’s.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 10:10 PM

We are getting t-storms, Thank God…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:08 PM

I went out for a run after I posted that tornado warning. Glad its just T-storms. They had baseball sized hail in texas I hear.

47m
Photo: Strong winds knock over dozens of train cars during severe storm in Galva, Kan. – @BrittanyGlasKSN

Murphy9 on May 7, 2014 at 10:11 PM

What’s up with these reports about ghost sex?

^ Don’t miss this headline. :)

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Murphy9 on May 7, 2014 at 10:11 PM

so far so good for us. just t-storms…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Until abortion is outlawed, the death penalty shouldn’t be.

Suck it, LIBTARDS!!!!

ladyingray on May 7, 2014 at 10:13 PM

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:08 PM

We aren’t. We need them. We need lots of them. Hell-we’ll take any rain AT ALL!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Clayton Lockett’s nightmarish execution

Nightmarish for whom? I certainly sleep well, knowing this sub-animal won’t be preying on anyone else.

DrMagnolias on May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Jonah Goldberg’s column on this case was one of his best for ages.

gh on May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

I’m trying to educate him.

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Might as well try to teach a pig to sing… Boy has a head like a brick…

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:13 PM

prayers ascending…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

More executions, not less. It’s a moral/social good.

non-nonpartisan on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 PM

I’ve been Condemned by Kathleen Parker.

ToddPA on May 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:10 PM

American WOMAN!

gh on May 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

If we want to avoid the prosecution and execution of the innocent,then mandate that anyone, be they judge, jury member, district attorney or police officer, if they knowingly bear “false witness” in a capital crime, then they shall be executed–hung on their own rope, as it were.

Also, what about Jesus and His famous “cast the first stone” trial? Liberals love trotting that one out. However, let’s look at that: firstly, when an unmarried woman sleeps with a married man, there’s no death penalty involved-that’s because polygamy was allowed. If a married woman sleeps with anyone other than her husband, both she AND her lover are to executed. In the case brought to Jesus, it’s a lynch mob. There was no trial, and under Roman law, the Jewish authorities weren’t allowed to execute anyone. Only the woman is brought forward, not her lover. Her husband is strangely absent. So the whole thing is pretty fishy. So Jesus does what He does and tells her “Go and sin no more.”

But throughout the gospels, Jesus talks about hell, and who winds up there. Obviously, the God of the universe, the Creator of all things, the very One who set up the Old Testament, and the very One who will cast the wicked into the outer darkness, has no problem with human governments executing murderers. In fact, that’s their job: being a sword against the unrighteous.

RockinRickOwen on May 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

We had an execution in Texas a few years back of a guy that robbed a store,killed the clerk,and all he got was a six pack of beer.The crowd outside the walls during the event had signs that said “This Buds for you.”

docflash on May 7, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Can there be anything Obama does not know about capital punishment? The man was trained at an elite law school (Harvard) and later served as a law professor.

And yet, he is thoroughly ignorant when it comes to the U.S. Constitution.

There’s no reason to believe he has a better grasp on any other legal subject.

malclave on May 7, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Confronting evil without being consumed by evil is the right path. Evil preys on our weakness, not our strength. Evil’s goal is to make us evil.

If that was my daughter, not sure I could resist the temptation. No, I am sure; I would succumb and render justice and pay the price.

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:23 PM

I’ve begun the second part of the eventually award-winning essay, The Zombie Apocalypse Is Upon Us. Part two will consist of various Zombie “types” aggregated into a field guide. I’m doing the types one at a time because “Intellectuals,” “Warmians,” and “Post-Soviet Communists” are becoming books all by themselves. Anyway:

The Zombie Field Guide: Z-Type: Donald Eugene Miller Jr.

“Still dead”

^ This happened awhile ago. I think he’s earned his own Zombie classification.

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:23 PM

No, I am sure; I would succumb and render justice and pay the price.

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Pretty sure most of us here would do the same…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:24 PM

In all seriousness – I’m asking because I genuinely don’t get it – why in the world wouldn’t conservatives prefer a Governor this time around? Someone who has actual governing experience? Ted Cruz is principled and all, but he’s a senator. A junior senator. Since January 2013. Scott Walker could manage circles around any senator.

PointAndClick on May 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Just want people to know that for reasons that still escape me, some troll has created a what appears to be a parody account of me. A search only turned up one post earlier today… Not sure why or how I earned the ire of some jackass, but please note the name…

Sincerely,

The original fuggin’ PointnClick

PointnClick on May 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Okay, I’m going to indulge in some nepotism right off the bat. The band the youngest Boy Wonder is in latest video.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Where the firetruck is Bmore?

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM

The Zombie Field Guide: Z-Type: People Needing to Masturbate

“You’ll know them by their ceaseless vigilance”

Might as well try to teach a pig to sing… Boy has a head like a brick…

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

^ Bet he’ll read that one — lol :)

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM

doh! Pausing for Munford’s boy wonder.

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM

I do believe joana is probably one of the most insulting dumb beatches I’ve ever seen on here.

Let’s insult everyone.
It’s pathetic.

wolly4321 on May 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

ToddPA on May 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

And the worst punishment she could come up with is life with Gov. Palin.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

And yet, he is thoroughly ignorant when it comes to the U.S. Constitution.

There’s no reason to believe he has a better grasp on any other legal subject.

malclave on May 7, 2014 at 10:22 PM

non-nonpartisan on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

prayers ascending…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Going to ask you to give one for a child whose last chance is surgery on the 13th. Brain tumor and if he makes it will come from the UK to us for proton treatment. Don’t look good, but it is what it is.

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

In NC can that Tillis actually beat Hagan?

crankyoldlady on May 7, 2014 at 10:31 PM

wolly4321 on May 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

She is the most annoying/irritating moby we have ever suffered under…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:31 PM

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

absolutely. prayers ascending…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:32 PM

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Best wishes…

Horatia on May 7, 2014 at 10:33 PM

I’m grumpy tonight after last night and need to cheer up. I don’t do grumpy very well.

Let me go see what is in the fridge.

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:33 PM

Going to ask you to give one for a child whose last chance is surgery on the 13th. Brain tumor and if he makes it will come from the UK to us for proton treatment. Don’t look good, but it is what it is.

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Thinking good thoughts.You just hate to see sick and suffering children for whatever the reason.

crankyoldlady on May 7, 2014 at 10:33 PM

I found BEER!

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

wolly4321 on May 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Besides being her normally kind and friendly and persuasive self-what did she do this time?

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

The original fuggin’ PointnClick

PointnClick on May 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Noted. Thanks for pointing that out.

KCB on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

sure thing

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

I found BEER!

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Where???!!!

KCB on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

PointAndClick on May 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Just want people to know that for reasons that still escape me, some troll has created a what appears to be a parody account of me. A search only turned up one post earlier today… Not sure why or how I earned the ire of some jackass, but please note the name…

Sincerely,

The original fuggin’ PointnClick

PointnClick on May 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

….Noted!

KOOLAID2 on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Going to ask you to give one for a child whose last chance is surgery on the 13th. Brain tumor and if he makes it will come from the UK to us for proton treatment. Don’t look good, but it is what it is.

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

My brother died in 2006 from Brain Cancer, you have my prayers as well.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 10:35 PM

…Let Lanceman LIVE…!!!

KOOLAID2 on May 7, 2014 at 10:35 PM

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:31 PM

She’s a paid political hack for someone. My opinion is the GOPe, but you may decide differently.

lineholder on May 7, 2014 at 10:35 PM

PointnClick on May 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Thanks for the clarification but if that’s the worst he says, you don’t have to worry.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:35 PM

I am officially a great mom-because I went out and bought guide books for all the cities that my son will be visiting next month. He couldn’t believe that I covered all the places. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:36 PM

ToddPA on May 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

And the worst punishment she could come up with is life with Gov. Palin.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

One of the true delicious ironies in Life, would be
a Palin Presidency for Kathy…well, actually for a
lot of people….HA!

ToddPA on May 7, 2014 at 10:36 PM

I found BEER!

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

My precious… you has stolen my precious… gives it back.. gives my precious backs…

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 10:36 PM

KOOLAID2 on May 7, 2014 at 10:35 PM

*GLARES*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:36 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Take our rain. ALL OF IT. please…

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

If only I could…

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:36 PM

that was very nice Alt. I know you are going to miss him.

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

I’m in.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM

lol! Kindly exclude that one from my previous reflection on your ‘nonfiction’ works.

thatsafactjack on May 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

She’s a paid political hack for someone. My opinion is the GOPe, but you may decide differently.

lineholder on May 7, 2014 at 10:35 PM

yeh. I remember her last couple of stints here a few years back. she only shows during election cycles…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

In NC can that Tillis actually beat Hagan?

crankyoldlady on May 7, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Maybe. It depends on whether he can rally voters to him before November.

People in NC are ticked off right now, and making what I would call drastic statements. It may or may not be anger talking. We’ll just have to wait and see.

lineholder on May 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Going to ask you to give one for a child whose last chance is surgery on the 13th. Brain tumor and if he makes it will come from the UK to us for proton treatment. Don’t look good, but it is what it is.

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

I’ll give one, and many more….here’s hoping things work
out in the best manner possible…

ToddPA on May 7, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Pretty good. Which one is yours?

gh on May 7, 2014 at 10:40 PM

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

.
If only I could…

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

.
Maybe if we built a pipeline . . . . . .

listens2glenn on May 7, 2014 at 10:40 PM

PointAndClick on May 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Just want people to know that for reasons that still escape me, some troll has created a what appears to be a parody account of me. A search only turned up one post earlier today… Not sure why or how I earned the ire of some jackass, but please note the name…

Sincerely,

The original fuggin’ PointnClick

PointnClick on May 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

….Noted!

KOOLAID2 on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Noted. Someone is trying to stand in your shadow. Put them in the shade, PointnClick. :)

thatsafactjack on May 7, 2014 at 10:41 PM

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Actually-I’ve promised to turn his cat against him and transform his bedroom into a ‘girl cave’.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:41 PM

People in NC are ticked off right now, and making what I would call drastic statements. It may or may not be anger talking. We’ll just have to wait and see.

lineholder on May 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

What are they angry about? Is there a state based website I could look at?

crankyoldlady on May 7, 2014 at 10:41 PM

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

This will cheer me up!!!!

Yep…that eight inches really made a difference! And I got the thickness back ;-)
Newtie and the Beauty on May 6, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Wow, I thought it was longer. If I took 8″ off mine, it’d still be in the middle of my back.
CoffeeLover on May 6, 2014 at 11:31 PM

CHUCKLE!!!!!

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

May 7th and it’s 47 friggin’ degrees with rain. So sick of it I can’t stand it.

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

KCB, I wanted to say thanks to you and Koolaid (I think?) for a couple of days… I saw your kind words the other nite about my writing, but when I read that, I was in my car, hours after you guys went to bed. I laughed out loud at the suggestion that Jazz get the heave-ho in favor of me… LOL

Sorry, but Jazz is in a class by himself… I’m not worthy… Look at my shoddy spelling and questionable use of punctuation…

But thanks for the accolades, just the same…

=)

PointnClick on May 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

What was her name back then? I got into it with her on another thread. I cannot stand a rude bully.

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Okay, I’m going to indulge in some nepotism right off the bat. The band the youngest Boy Wonder is in latest video.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM

That was SWEET. :)

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Pro-criminal Leftists priority concerned for murdering scumbag animals like this guy- cue the outrage….
.
Concern for murdered Americans in Benghazi……not so much…..

FlaMurph on May 7, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Maybe if we built a pipeline . . . . . .

listens2glenn on May 7, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Are you a Texan, too?

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Meanwhile in Lubbock…

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:46 PM

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:43 PM

it has always been joana. after the elections are over she goes back under her bridge and is content to stay there…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:41 PM

yeah yeah

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

I’m not worthy…

PointnClick on May 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Yeah, y’are.

Horatia on May 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

What are they angry about? Is there a state based website I could look at?

crankyoldlady on May 7, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Establishment Repubs stuck their grubby little paws in 4 different races in the state yesterday, and they won all 4. Conservatives are not happy about it at all.

The information I’ve been getting is mostly via phone calls and emails, although I’ve “talked” to a couple of people from NC at other sites during the day. I haven’t really checked in to local sites yet, to be honest with you. I’ll do that tomorrow.

lineholder on May 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Happy Birthday Billy Kreutzmann!!!! Thanks for playing.

7 Walkers – 7 Walkers

kcewa on May 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

When we moved here in 2011, the area was in the throes of a drought.
This year is deja vu all over again.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

HonestLib on May 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

glad we could help :)

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Thanks, Hot Air, for not covering a story and a national problem that’s of real interest.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/05/07/DOJ-Agency-Omits-Mexican-Cartel-Involvement-In-Alleged-Minnesota-Meth-Kidnapping-Torture-Case

BuckeyeSam on May 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

PointnClick on May 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

I know you don’t post a lot on your site, but I check every couple of days. I like your style. My mutt is only Seven, but he is a large breed (German Shepherd). His muzzle is going grey. He isn’t my first, so I am fully aware of where this story ends. I appreciated the eulogy you posted for Riley. Sounds like the kind of mutt I would have liked to spend a decade with.

KCB on May 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

lol! Kindly exclude that one from my previous reflection on your ‘nonfiction’ works.

thatsafactjack on May 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Judging by the feedback, no one wants to go near it. :) –But it’s really just a reaffirmation of Sanger’s eugenics, and it shows her “birth control” schtick for what it really was — just a box where she put her progressivism and bizarrely sexually libertine lifestyle. I mean, you know — a serious political essay with a title you can grab with two hands.

Axe on May 7, 2014 at 10:49 PM

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Whichever pol is paying her is an idiot. She couldn’t convince a teen age boy in a whorehouse….

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:49 PM

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:49 PM

she reall pisses me off the way she treats Cindy…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:50 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

I can’t get out fishing the weather is so bad. 4 fishermen drowned a couple weeks ago on the other side of the lake. Bad…

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Meanwhile in Lubbock…

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2014 at 10:46 PM

I saw that before. It’s time for colleges to go back to being the grownups. Students are kids without much experience of life. The college needs to guide them not roll over for them.

crankyoldlady on May 7, 2014 at 10:51 PM

gh on May 7, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Bass player.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 10:52 PM

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2014 at 10:50 PM

which is exactly what I got after her about on that thread. WTH is her deal?

8 weight on May 7, 2014 at 10:52 PM

“Obama’s position may be evolving, as it did with same-sex marriage.”

Yeah. Exactly the same.

He puts his finger in the wind, lies about his true beliefs and says what he thinks is politically expedient.

novaculus on May 7, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Must remember: when using microwave as kitchen timer push the TIMER button…not the COOK button.

kcewa on May 7, 2014 at 10:52 PM

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