House votes 231-187 to hold Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress

posted at 8:01 pm on May 7, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

As expected, after Lerner again pleaded the Fifth before Congress in March — although that does include a small handful of Democrats breaking the party line (and on a separate resolution to request the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups, the vote was 250-168 with a full 26 Democrats voting in the affirmative). Via National Journal:

The House voted to hold former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner in contempt on a 231-187 vote Wednesday, as Republicans work to uncover the depth of Lerner’s involvement in the agency’s targeting of conservative groups from 2010 to May 2013.

Six Democrats broke with their party to support the contempt vote: Ron Barber of Arizona, John Barrow of Georgia, Collin Peterson of Minnesota, Mike McIntyre of North Carolina, Nick Rahall of West Virginia, and Patrick Murphy of Florida. All are facing Republican challengers in tough districts for Democrats in November.

“Who’s been fired over the targeting of conservative groups by the IRS? No one that I’m aware of. Who’s gone to jail for violating the law? When is the administration going to tell the American people the truth?” House Speaker John Boehner told reporters Wednesday morning. “One would have to guess, if they’re not willing to tell the American people the truth, it must not be very pretty.”

Which means that the matter will now be referred to the Department of Justice. Which is captained by Attorney General Eric Holder. Who, by the way, is also in contempt of Congress. So… yeah. If she’s ever tried and convicted, Lerner could face fines up to $100,000 and even a up to a year of jail time, but we’ll see where that goes.


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I am just a poor boy
Though my story’s seldom told
I have squandered my resistance
For a pocket full of mumbles such are promises
All lies and jests
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

Why I recall that, I don’t know ….

Chuck Ef on May 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM

7m ago
Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., on Lois Lerner: ‘You don’t get to use a public hearing to tell the public and press your side of the story and then invoke the 5th’ – @politico
read more on politico.com

Murphy9 on May 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM

but we’ll see where that goes.

Stonewall.

thatsafactjack on May 7, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Finally! All those spotted little dogs, 101 of them to be exact, get their revenge!

TinFin on May 7, 2014 at 8:07 PM

And the dems continue their rant…. war on women

cmsinaz on May 7, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Not a smidgen…

d1carter on May 7, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Nelson says it the best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

Mydamndogs on May 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

I bet Obama asserts privilege.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Big deal. Erick Holder was also held in contempt of congress, and the result? Nada, zip, nothing. Makes me wonder what good Trey Gowdy’s Select Committee is going to do. Nobody seems to have any fear of Congress, kind of like the rest of the world and Obama, lot’s of bluster about red lines and nothing to back that bluster up.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Put her in the Capitol Jail.

ConstantineXI on May 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Not a smidgen…

d1carter on May 7, 2014 at 8:10 PM

but a boatload !

burrata on May 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM

I bet Obama asserts privilege.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

I agree, though not right away.

KCB on May 7, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Yepper Cindy

cmsinaz on May 7, 2014 at 8:15 PM

I bet Obama asserts privilege.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

I think he can only assert 1/2 privilege, no ?

burrata on May 7, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Ron Barber (AZ-D) surprises me. He also supports the A-10.

On everything else he’s a hack.

wolly4321 on May 7, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Good. And good for the 26 dems who did what is right, regardless of their motives.

LASue on May 7, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Lois Lerner: The smug face of a Public “Servant”

/Our government is racist with all these “Public Servants” … AMIRIGHT?

Key West Reader on May 7, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Does the US Atty for DC have independent authority here, or could scumbag Holder order a stand down?

rbj on May 7, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Oh, and Barbers district isn’t a tough district for D’s. They outnumber us 2-1.

It’s Giffords old seat.

wolly4321 on May 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Why do our “Public Servants” need Unions to protect them from We Who Pay Them?

Abolish Public Sector Unions – including Police, Fire and Teachers Unions. They don’t need protection FROM us, do they? If so, the question is “why”?

Key West Reader on May 7, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Six Democrats broke with their party to support the contempt vote

6 ?
OMG …6 ? Hussein and Piglosi allowed 6 dims to vote with Rs ?
Looks like the R votes for amnesty have been secured by the drug cartels +jihadys Democrats

burrata on May 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM

So when does the Congressional jail reopen its doors? That’s the only way Lerner will be actually held accountable, after all.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:28 PM

The House counsel said Lois waived her 5th Amendment privilege. But Lois’ lawyer said this outcome was un-American. Elijah Cummings is outraged by this McCarthyism. Why did the GOP ignore their reasonable pleas? Why does the GOP hate women and blacks so?

non-nonpartisan on May 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Put her in the Capitol Jail.

ConstantineXI on May 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM

There are probably soft cushions and a comfy chair in it!….

Sir Rants-A-Lot on May 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM

does the US Atty for DC have independent authority here, or could scumbag Holder order a stand down? rbj on May 7, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Holder has to appoint one first. The stand down is refusing to do so.

That’s my understanding. I might be wrong.

If he doesn’t what are the gonna do? Hold him in contempt? Again?

wolly4321 on May 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Big deal. Eric Holder was also held in contempt of congress, and the result? Nada, zip, nothing. Makes me wonder what good Trey Gowdy’s Select Committee is going to do. Nobody seems to have any fear of Congress, kind of like the rest of the world and Obama, lot’s of bluster about red lines and nothing to back that bluster up.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Seeing its form changed to a blue-ribbon panel after Bo(eh)ner survived his primary, no good at all. After all, when one wants to appear to investigate something without really investigating anything, one appoints a blue-ribbon panel.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:30 PM

@wolly4321
That Congressional jail is going to get full, quickly.

rbj on May 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM

There are probably soft cushions and a comfy chair in it!….

Sir Rants-A-Lot on May 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Don’t forget the dishrack.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM

zzzzzzzzzzz

antisense on May 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM

I wonder how that bimbo Krystal Ballz will take this news ?

burrata on May 7, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Put her in the Capitol Jail.

ConstantineXI on May 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM

My understanding (possibly incorrect) is that she can be thrown in the Capitol Jail for maybe up to a year – a course of action not used in 70-100 years. It’s overdue.

So Obummer invokes executive privilege. So? Cannot those Wusses in Congress respond with something like “Kiss our big hairy buttocks?”

Let the good times roll.

Infidelius on May 7, 2014 at 8:34 PM

I am betting this will sit and sit for as long as they can possibly get away with it.

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 8:35 PM

There is no way on God’s Earth Lois Lerner will be investigated or prosecuted by this Justice Department.

oldennis on May 7, 2014 at 8:35 PM

My understanding (possibly incorrect) is that she can be thrown in the Capitol Jail for maybe up to a year – a course of action not used in 70-100 years. It’s overdue.

So Obummer invokes executive privilege. So? Cannot those Wusses in Congress respond with something like “Kiss our big hairy buttocks?”

Let the good times roll.

Infidelius on May 7, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Until the next session of Congress starts, which in this case would mean something less than 7 months.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:36 PM

burrata on May 7, 2014 at 8:16 PM

It would appear that he can do anything he dang well pleases. He’s got a pen and a phone, dontcha know.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 8:36 PM

No you know why Holder is still there. He is there to block any criminal investigations from occurring. He is covering every bodies butts.

warmairfan on May 7, 2014 at 8:38 PM

One more thing, Congressional Jail (extra-Constitutional, though judicially-sanctioned) is one of only two federal places where a Presidential pardon does not extend.

It isn’t an option for Holder because he is subject to the other place where a Presidential pardon does not extend – impeachment.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Wouldn’t the Holder conflict of interest be, by definition, an automatic DQ for Holder and forced on to a Special Prosecutor?

HopeHeFails on May 7, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Obama’s list of pardons just keeps getting bigger and bigger. And then finally, he’ll pardon himself.

JellyToast on May 7, 2014 at 8:41 PM

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Seeing its form changed to a blue-ribbon panel after Bo(eh)ner survived his primary, no good at all. After all, when one wants to appear to investigate something without really investigating anything, one appoints a blue-ribbon panel.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Boehner may have survived his primary, but enough of a change in the house and he will not be returning as Speaker.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Bipartisian

Ellis on May 7, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Six Democrats broke with their party to support the contempt vote

Sounds like a bipartisan vote to me.

PatMac on May 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Boehner may have survived his primary, but enough of a change in the house and he will not be returning as Speaker.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Care to clarify, or are you better with Speaker Pelosi than with Speaker Bo(eh)ner?

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:45 PM

If she was a normal person, she’d take an immunity deal…and probably need witness protection as well.

RBMN on May 7, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Six Democrats broke with their party to support the contempt vote: Ron Barber of Arizona, John Barrow of Georgia, Collin Peterson of Minnesota, Mike McIntyre of North Carolina, Nick Rahall of West Virginia, and Patrick Murphy of Florida.

So a bipartisan vote for contempt! Excellente!

slickwillie2001 on May 7, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Oh, and Barbers district isn’t a tough district for D’s. They outnumber us 2-1.

It’s Giffords old seat.

wolly4321 on May 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM

That’s what I was thinking too. But then I remembered Col. Martha McSally. I think she came pretty close last cycle – perhaps she can pull it of this time. One can hope!

Ron Barber, D-Ariz.

Republicans argue that the stars are finally aligning for them in the 2nd District, and the party’s recent internal polling showed a deadlocked race.

For the first time since 2006, the GOP has a quality candidate, retired Air Force Col. Martha McSally, a seemingly favorable political climate and a willingness to spend in the district.

Barber’s best political asset is his team: They are the same operatives who were behind the campaigns of Barber’s former boss, ex-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

Rothenberg Political Report/Roll Call Race Rating: Tossup

Hill60 on May 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

with a full 26 Democrats voting in the affirmative).

…6 of them were half-democrats today…because of up coming elections.

KOOLAID2 on May 7, 2014 at 8:53 PM

God, she’s one ugly broad.

lostmotherland on February 26, 2014 at 4:09 PM

On Lerner I have to agree.

slickwillie2001 on May 7, 2014 at 8:54 PM

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Care to clarify, or are you better with Speaker Pelosi than with Speaker Bo(eh)ner?

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:45 PM

There are a lot of Republican congressmen who want to see Boehner replaced.

House Conservatives Plot to Oust Boehner, Put Scare Into Cantor

Several dozen frustrated House conservatives are scheming to infiltrate the GOP leadership next year—possibly by forcing Speaker John Boehner to step aside immediately after November’s midterm elections.

The conservatives’ exasperation with leadership is well known. And now, in discreet dinners at the Capitol Hill Club and in winding, hypothetical-laced email chains, they’re trying to figure out what to do about it. Some say it’s enough to coalesce behind—and start whipping votes for—a single conservative leadership candidate. Others want to cut a deal with Majority Leader Eric Cantor: We’ll back you for speaker if you promise to bring aboard a conservative lieutenant.

But there’s a more audacious option on the table, according to conservatives involved in the deliberations. They say between 40 and 50 members have already committed verbally to electing a new speaker. If those numbers hold, organizers say, they could force Boehner to step aside as speaker in late November, when the incoming GOP conference meets for the first time, by showing him that he won’t have the votes to be reelected in January.

The masterminds of this mutiny are trying to stay in the shadows for as long as possible to avoid putting a target on their backs. But one Republican said the “nucleus”of the rebellion can be found inside the House Liberty Caucus, of which he and his comrades are members. This is not surprising, considering that some of the key players in that group—Justin Amash of Michigan, Raul Labrador of Idaho, and Thomas Massie of Kentucky—were among the 12 Republicans who refused to back Boehner’s reelection in January 2013.

This is what I am talking about. A move amongst Conservative Republicans to remove Boehner from the position of Speaker. Not to give it to the Wicked Witch of the West.

Why dear God won’t Dorothy show up and drop a damned house on Nazi Pelosi…

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM

OT…Trey Gowdy on Megyn. He’s now getting death threats. Grr

CoffeeLover on May 7, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Hill60 on May 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

She’s ok, I guess. I’ve met her. (McSally)

She beat out Frank Antenori in the primary, I don’t know how.

Frank was the bomb.

Woman vote, I guess.

wolly4321 on May 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Contempt of Congress is a crime? Uh-Oh…

kcewa on May 7, 2014 at 9:10 PM

This is what I am talking about. A move amongst Conservative Republicans to remove Boehner from the position of Speaker. Not to give it to the Wicked Witch of the West.

Why dear God won’t Dorothy show up and drop a damned house on Nazi Pelosi…

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Thanks for the good explanation. That leaves the ball in Bo(eh)ner’s court on whether he will be like Karl Rove, John Cornyn and the rest of the Eastablishment in Nevada and Indiana.

Oh, and since Pelosi is from Kalifornica, it’s water that needs to be dropped on her. “I’m melting! I’m melting! I’m melllllltinnnnnnnnng!”

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 9:17 PM

There are probably soft cushions and a comfy chair in it!….

Sir Rants-A-Lot on May 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Don’t forget the dishrack.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM

and the cold shiny open-air stainless steel toilet

gracie on May 7, 2014 at 9:19 PM

and the cold shiny open-air stainless steel toilet

gracie on May 7, 2014 at 9:19 PM

I believe you missed the Monty Python references.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

I believe you missed the Monty Python references.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

no I didn’t…just thinking of today and the part that I would hate most about being in lock-up.

gracie on May 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM

no I didn’t…just thinking of today and the part that I would hate most about being in lock-up.

gracie on May 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Not having any privacy while taking care of nature’s business would definitely rank up there.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM

kcewa on May 7, 2014 at 9:10 PM

I know, right? And the funny thing is you and I have a more likely chance of being jailed for it.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Can Congress act to rescind LL’s pension?

gracie on May 7, 2014 at 9:41 PM

In the bigger picture, we really have no meaningful oversight of the executive branch. As is presently being demonstrated, stall, stonewall, slow walk, until someone is finally given a contempt citation which is promptly ignored by the politicized DOJ and will be forgotten by the next administration. We live in a lawless country. I see no way it will be corrected.

butch on May 7, 2014 at 9:41 PM

Oh, and since Pelosi is from Kalifornica, it’s water that needs to be dropped on her. “I’m melting! I’m melting! I’m melllllltinnnnnnnnng!”

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Sorry, as a resident of Kalifornia, I am afraid I must inform you that Kalifornia doesn’t have any water to drop on her. Her other wicked witch sisters shut all the water here off so they could drive the farmers out and sell the land off ala Harry Reid in Nevada.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Don’t hold your breath waiting for ‘the most corrupt administration ever” to do anything.

Except that King Barack will probably issue Lerner a pardon.

GarandFan on May 7, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Oh, and since Pelosi is from Kalifornica, it’s water that needs to be dropped on her. “I’m melting! I’m melting! I’m melllllltinnnnnnnnng!”

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Sorry, as a resident of Kalifornia, I am afraid I must inform you that Kalifornia doesn’t have any water to drop on her. Her other wicked witch sisters shut all the water here off so they could drive the farmers out and sell the land off ala Harry Reid in Nevada.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Even the delta smelt are planning on voting Democrat in the June 3 primary election! Seriously, what the coastal majority has been doing to the good people of the Central Valley is nothing short of criminal. And it goes without saying that every California coastal Democrat voted against holding Lerner in contempt.

Sir Rants-A-Lot on May 7, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Six Dems voted in favor of the resolution. No republicans voted against. The roll is here.

Texas Zombie on May 7, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Absent political interference by the Obama Admin, this legally binding action requires the DOJ to take action.

Good luck with that.

talkingpoints on May 7, 2014 at 11:12 PM

She should also be held in contempt of plastic surgery and the Fashion Police.

NoPain on May 7, 2014 at 11:22 PM

So what will happen with lerner now? Holder gets to investigate or charge her?

Don’t see that happening at all, holder is also in contempt of congress right?

It’s evidently chickentown.

Diluculo on May 7, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Absent political interference by the Obama Admin, this legally binding action requires the DOJ to take action. – D. Issa

This Administration has had no regard for legal responsibilities so far. They will tell the presstitutes that they are examining the law to discover which way to go. You might (or might not) remember that our Attorney General said he was waiting for the Zimmerman trial to end so he could then pursue possible federal charges – the press knew there was nothing forthcoming. Same here, like so many other episodes.

DublOh7 on May 8, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Sorry, as a resident of Kalifornia, I am afraid I must inform you that Kalifornia doesn’t have any water to drop on her. Her other wicked witch sisters shut all the water here off so they could drive the farmers out and sell the land off ala Harry Reid in Nevada.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I didn’t say it had to be fresh water. You’re sitting on the coastline of the largest ocean in the world, though as Sir Rants-A-Lot points out, you’ll have to fight your way through her horde to get there.

INTO THE SEA!

Steve Eggleston on May 8, 2014 at 2:29 AM

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess what is going to happen with this: Nothing.

justltl on May 8, 2014 at 4:32 AM

House votes 231-187 to hold Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress

So?

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 8, 2014 at 6:04 AM

This vote is WHY to vote out all DEMOCROOKS, they voted (except for the 6 running in tough elections) on party line to PROTECT the criminal activity of the IRS as directed by the obama white house.

So the democrats will PROTECT criminal activity by the govt to win elections, and pretty blatantly i must say

sniffles1999 on May 8, 2014 at 7:23 AM

I didn’t say it had to be fresh water. You’re sitting on the coastline of the largest ocean in the world, though as Sir Rants-A-Lot points out, you’ll have to fight your way through her horde to get there.

INTO THE SEA!

Steve Eggleston on May 8, 2014 at 2:29 AM

I know its so funny. They have all this money to spend on a stupid train that will never go anywhere, yet, all this time knowing what happens with the water in the state, they never build anything that might actually benefit themselves.

watertown on May 8, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Look how the mighty has fallen. She has gone from being head keeper of the hounds of hell at the IRS to a resigned almost felon who had to leave her post in disgrace one step ahead of a select committee chaired by the Jack Russell of house reps called Trey. Bonehead aimed his sights on the wrong sin. More voters would understand hating on the IRS than some guy named Ben.

Kissmygrits on May 8, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Kissmygrits on May 8, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Disagree. Got 3 eggs in 3 baskets, 1 in each. Culture of Corruption surrounding the Dems. If they don’t participate with the R’s, they are part of the coverup/corruption.

gracie on May 8, 2014 at 9:28 AM

This heifer needs to be frog marched in some paper coveralls to a tiny cell where she should be locked up till she’s gone on to her great reward. There should be no tolerance for abuses of power like this.

Murphy9 on May 8, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Now it’s “let’s make a deal” time. Either rot in jail or tell us where the orders came from to use the IRS for political gain during a presidential election cycle. If she did so without instruction then she takes the hit or she flips and it goes up the ladder…..it’s no big deal and she gets her pension and all is forgotten. No harm no foul

jaywemm on May 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Baptize her by waterboarding. Isn’t she still being paid by we the people? Nuke the IRS — flat or fair taxation for everybody.

racquetballer on May 8, 2014 at 10:43 AM

I bet Obama asserts privilege.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

We could only be so lucky–an assertion of executive privilege in the IRS matter would be, ipso facto, an admission of White House complicity.

Dime IV on May 8, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Boehner may have survived his primary, but enough of a change in the house and he will not be returning as Speaker.

oscarwilde on May 7, 2014 at 8:41 PM

I think they vote for the next speaker before they recess before the new Congress takes over. So the “old” reps get to vote, even if they are on the way out.

cptacek on May 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM