Police Foil California Teachers Association Takeover of Rogue Local

posted at 3:21 pm on May 6, 2014 by Mike Antonucci

The Modesto Teachers Association (MTA) scheduled a vote today on whether the 1,500-member local would remain affiliated with the California Teachers Association (CTA) and the National Education Association. The state union was not pleased, but seemed resigned to the vote taking place. CTA president Dean Vogel toured the district, urging members to remain in the fold, and even was given a forum to address the local’s representatives.

But at some point the CTA board of directors decided that Modesto’s plan to abide by the will of the voting majority, instead of two-thirds of the entire bargaining unit, made the election “unlawful.” Last night the board voted to place the local under state trusteeship, and sent two trustees after business hours to take control of its offices and bank accounts.

But the MTA officers were prepared. They called the police. The Modesto Bee reports:

“All they have is a scrap of paper saying they’ve imposed trusteeship,” said Rafael Ruano of the law firm Goyette and Associates Inc. of Gold River, who said he was speaking for MTA leadership. “They took an internal CTA vote and said, ‘We’re taking over MTA,’ and there’s no legal basis for them to do it.”

In a phone call Monday night, Ruano said the state group’s efforts to seize control of MTA bank accounts and property were unsuccessful, and that a court order would have been required to take such actions.

Three thousand miles away, another attempt to seize an NEA local with thoughts of disaffiliation was reversed by a Maryland circuit court judge. The elected officers of the Wicomico County Education Association were restored to their positions after a group of members took control of the union offices, web site and bank accounts.

Neither case involves disbanding of the union, only an end to affiliation with the state and national teachers’ union. And in both cases, the wishes of the members were denied before they were even expressed.


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Imrahil on May 6, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Neither case involves disbanding of the union, only an end to affiliation with the state and national teachers’ union.

Historically though that is exactly what happens after a vote like that.

Johnnyreb on May 6, 2014 at 3:26 PM

It’s gotten to the point where the local union needs a union to protect it from the national unions.

dirtseller on May 6, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Like the SS taking on the SA, can’t both sides lose?

Bishop on May 6, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Natives are restless. Next thing you know, they’ll start asking what happens to all their dues money. Best to choke that off STAT!

butch on May 6, 2014 at 3:36 PM

It’s gotten to the point where the local union needs a union to protect it from the national unions.

dirtseller on May 6, 2014 at 3:31 PM

I worked for a place some time ago that had a union and we tried to vote it out once. The meeting got very ugly and serious threats were made by the union officials who showed up when we were supposed to vote. Basically they told us that we were not allowed to vote on disbanding a union even though the company we worked for said they were OK with it and there was nothing in our contract forbidding it.

We wanted to go to collective bargaining because the union wasn’t doing squat for us except taking $$$ out of our paycheck automatically every two weeks.

They brought in some labor lawyer guys and threatened to sue everyone of us if we persisted. None of us had enough money to get lawyers so we stopped.

That’s how they work. They use members dues to fight any attempt to disband a union.

Johnnyreb on May 6, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Thugs battling thugs…

PatriotRider on May 6, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Scott Walker “union buster” for president!

beselfish on May 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM

They wanted to be a union now suck it up…

Kind of like Obamacare…voted for Zero twice now suck it up…enjoy your vote…

PatriotRider on May 6, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Eventually all the union membership will be thugs….

Just like the government….

I won’t feel so bad when we need to take them out.

redguy on May 6, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Moderate injuries from (lead-filled) thrown erasers were reported….

viking01 on May 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

It’s all about the Benjamins.

myiq2xu on May 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Like the SS taking on the SA, can’t both sides lose?

Bishop on May 6, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Hopefully, yes…but Ernst Röhm had to lose first…and Himmler unfortunately took a while.

Patrick S on May 6, 2014 at 3:52 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Hope the woman holding the sign isn’t a teacher. Shouldn’t it read unions “are” my cup of tea? Just sayin….

DebraChicago on May 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Bad news for brainfree and the Marxist indoctrination center which employs him/her/it ?

viking01 on May 6, 2014 at 3:57 PM

…the Mafia…is alive!

KOOLAID2 on May 6, 2014 at 3:58 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Seriously? The Union officials don’t educate children, they just take members money. Haven’t seen you for a while. Too many Benghazi threads lately?

Johnnyreb on May 6, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Is it just me or does her sign say “unions our my cup of tea”?!? OUR?? And these geniuses are teachers??

Ltlgeneral64 on May 6, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Notice how the union higher ups always run to seize the bank accounts ASAP?

Pretty easy to see what is most important to them.

airupthere on May 6, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Scott Walker “union buster” for president!

beselfish on May 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM

I’m not sure if this is sarcasm or not. It is a disgrace that an anti-union thug like Walker is able to hold office. In the end, though, the viciousness of the political right towards the impotent reforms advocated by organized labor is a sign of weakness of the ruling elite, not strength. Like a cornered, desperate animal, capitalism, as a system, senses that the game is up. The only question remaining is how much of civilization will it take with it on its way to the graveyard.

Even so, the inability of faux-progressive petty bourgeois movements to maintain a unified front against such naked aggression from the capitalist class proves that only a revolutionary party like the SEP, committed to the principles of Marxism, and controlled by the workers themselves, can effect real change.

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

It probably means those people are doing a lousy job, made still worse by union meddling and interference with the central goals of education.
And that they should be replaced.
That’s what it means.

orangemtl on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

“They stab it with their Steely knives, but they just can’t kill
the Beast”

ToddPA on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

It’s gotten to the point where the local union needs a union to protect it from the national unions.

dirtseller on May 6, 2014 at 3:31 PM

:)

jimver on May 6, 2014 at 4:08 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

It might mean that society has realized that it is not getting a good return on investment. At least that’s what I think it means.

2L8 on May 6, 2014 at 4:08 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

.
Why? Do you feel “vulnerable,” perfesser?

ExpressoBold on May 6, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

As Popeye used to say…”Yuck, yuck, yuck!”

2L8 on May 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM

One advantage the Teecha’s Unions have is they already have the chalk to make the “outlines.”

So to speak.

(fade out Godfather Theme)

viking01 on May 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?
libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

When did society charge that particular union to educate our children? This whole time I thought we did that with teachers.

anuts on May 6, 2014 at 4:12 PM

In the end, though, the viciousness of the political right towards the impotent reforms advocated by organized labor is a sign of weakness of the ruling elite, not strength.

How does that sentence even make sense? I detect a union taught junior high graduate in our midst!

2L8 on May 6, 2014 at 4:14 PM

in both cases, the wishes of the members were denied before they were even expressed.

Unions aren’t about what the members want, they are about money and power. When you control the huge amounts of money from dues and in pension plans and political funds you can make a lot of waves and enrich yourself at the same time buy looting the union. Union thugs can even do it legally, just like politicians and bureaucrats loot the country.

earlgrey on May 6, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

So, the regular progressive trolls just aren’t far enough “left”? We need someone who can actually spout Marxist dialectic directly to us? Wow.

GWB on May 6, 2014 at 4:22 PM

They wanted to be a union now suck it up…

PatriotRider on May 6, 2014 at 3:46 PM

I live in California and work for a school. You HAVE to belong to the union if you take a job with a school district. You can attempt to opt out for “religious or conscience” reasons, but that is rather difficult and you must pay your dues to an approved charity.

Unions for any civil service is anathema to freedom and absurd beyond belief. Imagine allowing yourself to take from yourself, that is what a government union does.

If you work for the government and can’t trust the government to treat you fairly then what is the point of government?

Neitherleftorright on May 6, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Either you are a pretender trying to goad response on the site or you are one of the most ignorant and inane persons who ever lived.

Please stop with your idiotic ravings.

Neitherleftorright on May 6, 2014 at 4:27 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

As test scores and performance show, unionized “teachers” are not educating children; instead, they are holding children hostage and threatening to hurt them unless we give in to their constant whining.

For libfreeordie, the only thing he could teach a student is to hate and blame white people. Why on earth should we pay him for being a racist and making more people racist?

I’m not sure if this is sarcasm or not. It is a disgrace that an anti-union thug like Walker is able to hold office. In the end, though, the viciousness of the political right towards the impotent reforms advocated by organized labor is a sign of weakness of the ruling elite, not strength. Like a cornered, desperate animal, capitalism, as a system, senses that the game is up. The only question remaining is how much of civilization will it take with it on its way to the graveyard.

Even so, the inability of faux-progressive petty bourgeois movements to maintain a unified front against such naked aggression from the capitalist class proves that only a revolutionary party like the SEP, committed to the principles of Marxism, and controlled by the workers themselves, can effect real change.

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

It’s always funny how so-called “champions of the workers” like Trotsky here are actually lazy white boys who never worked a day in their life, mooched off their parents, and are simply trying to whip up discontent to mooch off more people.

northdallasthirty on May 6, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

That’s too bad for totalitarian lovers then.

All us freedom-lovers see Walker as a hero!

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 4:28 PM

I’m not sure if this is sarcasm or not. It is a disgrace that an anti-union thug like Walker is able to hold office. In the end, though, the viciousness of the political right towards the impotent reforms advocated by organized labor is a sign of weakness of the ruling elite, not strength. Like a cornered, desperate animal, capitalism, as a system, senses that the game is up. The only question remaining is how much of civilization will it take with it on its way to the graveyard.

Even so, the inability of faux-progressive petty bourgeois movements to maintain a unified front against such naked aggression from the capitalist class proves that only a revolutionary party like the SEP, committed to the principles of Marxism, and controlled by the workers themselves, can effect real change.

My “friend”, you really are living in dreamland if you think that this country will ever look anything like the Soviet Union or Cuba. If anyone tries that here, the resulting conflagration will make the Civil War look like a picnic. Dream on.

El Salsero on May 6, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Hope the woman holding the sign isn’t a teacher. Shouldn’t it read unions “are” my cup of tea? Just sayin….

DebraChicago on May 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Hey, cut them some slack…those Signs don’t
have Spell Check.

ToddPA on May 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?
libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

shutup you racist

dmacleo on May 6, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Trotsky,
All of that inane dribble worked so well for the Soviet Union and Eastern
Europe they set fire to it and pulled it down.

Move to China. You should fit right in.
Most of what the Government there publishes sounds like
and makes as much sense as your historically myopic blather.

Tenwheeler on May 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Unions are the only entity other than the IRS that gets their hands on your paycheck before you do. Public unions exist so that a certain percentage of all government salaries flow to the Democrat party.

ConstantineXI on May 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Jesus H. Christ, that’s some military grade trolling! Whoever pulls these puppet strings, I envy his/her language skills mightily.

Rix on May 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Hey, cut them some slack…those Signs don’t
have Spell Check.

ToddPA on May 6, 2014 at 4:36 PM

See spelled “our” correctly, she’s probably a day laborer for the union.

RickB on May 6, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Blue on blue, heartache on heartache!

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 6, 2014 at 4:43 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Please tell me you got that from a fortune cookie. Anyway, if you took a little time to read the article it seems to me it is the people “charged” with educating children are fighting amongst themselves. What your comment has to do about the article is beyond me.

DaveDief on May 6, 2014 at 4:45 PM

I’m not sure if this is sarcasm or not. It is a disgrace that an anti-union thug like Walker is able to hold office. In the end, though, the viciousness of the political right towards the impotent reforms advocated by organized labor is a sign of weakness of the ruling elite, not strength. Like a cornered, desperate animal, capitalism, as a system, senses that the game is up. The only question remaining is how much of civilization will it take with it on its way to the graveyard.

Even so, the inability of faux-progressive petty bourgeois movements to maintain a unified front against such naked aggression from the capitalist class proves that only a revolutionary party like the SEP, committed to the principles of Marxism, and controlled by the workers themselves, can effect real change.

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

1. The reforms unions are impotent [having no power or force].

2. If capitalism as an economic system over, why did China and Russia institute capitalist reforms to their economies.

RickB on May 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM

As test scores and performance show, unionized “teachers” are not educating children; instead, they are holding children hostage and threatening to hurt them unless we give in to their constant whining.

You mean the very same test scores which everyone on the right believes are a poor way to evaluate student performance and influences teaching in ways that are detrimental to student development. Which voices on the right argue against standardized testing you ask? Why it’s all the politicians who educate their children in private schools that don’t require standardized test. Which, instead, offer a strong liberal arts education that weaves together the humanities, math and science along a wide range of medium.

So since the right agrees that standardized tests are utterly ineffective, why should their results be used to condemn unionized teachers?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 4:52 PM

My private high school still took the standardized tests ACT and SAT and yes our scores were phenonmenal.

The teachers there had masters or PhDs in the subjects taught not some room temperature education degree.

The school was excellent and so were the students so neither had anything to fear.

Where the standardized tests threaten the publik skools is how those can show the students haven’t learned because the least common denominator union teachers can’t teach because their empty education degrees taught them nothing besides Leftoid claptrap.

viking01 on May 6, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Not real talk. Ignore.

Murphy9 on May 6, 2014 at 5:13 PM

You mean the very same test scores which everyone on the right believes are a poor way to evaluate student performance and influences teaching in ways that are detrimental to student development.

Versus the very same test scores that everyone on the left believes are totes awesome, including Barack Obama.

So riddle us that one, race-baiter; the standardized testing and curriculum that YOU and your fellow leftists push as being absolutely necessary and suitable is itself showing that you are failing.

So the righties are right.

Which leads us to this:

Which voices on the right argue against standardized testing you ask? Why it’s all the politicians who educate their children in private schools that don’t require standardized test. Which, instead, offer a strong liberal arts education that weaves together the humanities, math and science along a wide range of medium.

Yep. Normally in those Catholic and parochial schools that you and your fellow race-baiters so disdain, and even more hilariously, the ones to which your lefty leaders like Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi send THEIR spawn.

When Malia and Sasha Obama see the inside of a public school as students, then you can criticize others’ educational choices. Perhaps if you had an education other than in how to race-bait, you would be intelligent enough to realize that your screaming at other people who advocate school choice sending their kids to private school makes no sense when those like you who oppose school choice refuse to send yours to public.

So since the right agrees that standardized tests are utterly ineffective, why should their results be used to condemn unionized teachers?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Because the left, the Obama Party, and the unions, filled with people like you, are the ones who pushed those standardized tests as measures of effectiveness and necessary.

So since you’re now attacking the right for pointing out the obvious, when do you intend to take blame for pushing them, pathetic loser?

northdallasthirty on May 6, 2014 at 5:16 PM

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Even you have to admit that your response is a most bizarre debate tactic. That poster is an individual offering a counter to your specific claim. You respond by turning that individual’s counter into some collective position that only relatively fits into an opposing viewpoint of another argument altogether of the same collective you are now arguing.

What are you doing?

anuts on May 6, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Hope the woman holding the sign isn’t a teacher. Shouldn’t it read unions “are” my cup of tea? Just sayin….

DebraChicago on May 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

They’re probably from rentasigncarriers.com. (I made that up)

crankyoldlady on May 6, 2014 at 5:18 PM

So since the right agrees that standardized tests are utterly ineffective, why should their results be used to condemn unionized teachers?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Seriously? You are a professor? Where?

Logic evidently is not a strong point with you. As for your persuasive skills, they aren’t. At least try to use some of your hard earned education and prove that you have one, rather than simply ranting random questions with your invented answers.

Either you have the data and references to back up your statements or you don’t. I know you don’t have anything to back up your statement “Why it’s all the politicians who educate their children in private schools…” Worse than the fact that you made up the preceding assertion, is that you are completely missing the point of what it happening in Modesto.

Neitherleftorright on May 6, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

You make channeling my inner Pinochet soooo easy.

CPT. Charles on May 6, 2014 at 5:28 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Imagine if teachers used all the time and energy spent on Union garbage, on teaching Children.

portlandon on May 6, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Unions are thugs. That is the long and short of it. Every once in awhile, somebody stands up to them and calls them out on it. I am glad to see that it is happening more and more often these days. :)

Theophile on May 6, 2014 at 11:42 PM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

It means society needs to charge a better class of people with educating its children.

I hear churches do a better job…with much lower…ahem…collateral damage

jmad on May 7, 2014 at 1:46 AM

So since the right agrees that standardized tests are utterly ineffective, why should their results be used to condemn unionized teachers?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Based on the premises you present for your conclusion, I believe this is what we could call a non sequitor – the conclusion doesn’t even make sense based on the premise. But logic has never been your strong suit, LFoD.

GWB on May 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Why allow teacher unions at all. These are public institutions and no need to have unions without OUR permission. They fees are onerous and spent to support laws, regulations and candidates that many do not approve, and they support the leaders in glorious splendor. Down with all of today’s unions, but especially public institution unions – schools, bureaucrats, and any other union that tries and controls workers and employers. I belonged to 3 and never again. They take away your rights as they bribe you to pay dues! The members of any union should have the right to choose but obviously “mother” unions want that money for their nefarious actions and the Democrats support them and vice verse! Another case of no freedom of speech stolen!

Roselle on May 7, 2014 at 11:07 AM

What does it mean when a society condemns the people it has charged with educating its children?

libfreeordie on May 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

That depends upon how badly those “charged with educating” are failing. Interesting question, but wholly unrelated to the topic at hand. A local group of teachers, exercizing CHOICE to disaffiliate their local union from the ineffective, expensive, valueless behemoth which is the state union, are pressured in an attempt to restrict their CHOICE.

I thought that living free meant having the ability to CHOOSE. Aren’t liberals all about being PRO CHOICE?

And just to be thorough, whom do you claim is condemning whom, with your rhetorical yet inane question?

Freelancer on May 7, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Trotsky on May 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

That, sir, was some of the finest satire I’ve read in years.

Freelancer on May 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM