Open thread: It’s primary night in North Carolina and Ohio

posted at 7:21 pm on May 6, 2014 by Allahpundit

It’s primary night in Indiana too but all the action is in NC and OH. Actually, scratch that: All the action is in NC. Boehner’s seat is on the line in OH-8 but no one thinks he’s in any sort of danger, the viral success of J.D. Winteregg’s “electile dysfunction” ad notwithstanding. If you’re watching the returns on that race, it’s really only to see whether conservative disgruntlement with Boehner will produce a narrower-than-expected win in his home district. Prediction: Nope. Here’s Politico’s page for OH-8 to follow the vote totals.

There’s genuine suspense in North Carolina, though. First up: Is Renee Ellmers, who upset Bob Etheridge in NC-2 four years ago as part of the big tea-party wave, about to be bounced in a primary herself? She’s turned into a loud-and-proud amnesty fan, backing Boehner on reform. If she’s upset tonight by Frank Roche, Republican fencesitters on immigration in the House will be terrified. Boehner himself might conclude that the issue is simply too hot to handle before the midterms and abandon it until next year. On the flip side, if she wins easily, closet amnesty boosters in Congress might decide that the issue doesn’t have the power at the polls that it once did and choose to press ahead with it this summer. Lots on the line here potentially. Here’s the returns page.

The other big one in NC is the Senate primary between “establishment” favorite Thom Tillis, conservative Greg Brannon, and several others. If you read Erika’s post this afternoon, you already know the score: Kay Hagan and the Democrats have decided that Tillis is their toughest prospective opponent so they’re running ads to RINOize him before the primary, replete with mangling a quote of his to make it sound like he supports ObamaCare. (Fun fact: Kay Hagan was the 60th and decisive vote for ObamaCare in the Senate four years ago.) If they can hold Tillis under 40 percent, he’ll have to contend with a run-off, which will consume time and money. In their best-case scenario, Tillis ends up being upset in the run-off by Brannon, who’ll then be quickly Akin-ized in the general election. Essentially, Hagan’s following the Claire McCaskill strategy of how to hold your Senate seat in an unfavorable political landscape. An interesting subplot here is that Rand Paul, who’s desperate to make nice with the establishment before he runs in 2016, actually endorsed Brannon a few days ago. Why he did that, I’m not sure; maybe he’s taken enough heat for backing Mitch McConnell that he felt he needed to support the most right-wing candidate he could find in another race. If Brannon ends up holding Tillis below 40 percent, though, or beating him outright in a run-off, the Paul/establishment flirtation will be all over.

Here’s the returns page for Tillis vs. Brannon for Senate. Ace’s “decision desk” team will also have returns as they come in. The polls in both North Carolina and Ohio close at 7:30 ET.


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Open thread means cheese talk.

If you were a cheese what kind of cheese would you be.

Bishop on May 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

If you were a cheese what kind of cheese would you be.

Bishop on May 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

A cheese steak

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:25 PM

*clink * all around
:)

cmsinaz on May 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Howdy!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Humpbot night? is this qotd?

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:31 PM

My heart wants Brannon to win in the run-off, but Tillis will probably win.

Chalk NC off the list of states that are red red.

nobar on May 6, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Open thread means cheese talk.

If you were a cheese what kind of cheese would you be.

Bishop on May 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

I’d have to say, a Gouda.

Just remember. Good cheese comes from happy cows…

JohnGalt23 on May 6, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Open thread means cheese talk.

If you were a cheese what kind of cheese would you be.

Bishop on May 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Heh. We’ve played this game before …

Since Barky’s coronation, I’ve been Blue Cheese.

[Man, this place really goes to hell when Bishop leads off the comments.]

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 7:32 PM

A cheese steak

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Get out!

Bishop on May 6, 2014 at 7:32 PM

I’m in NC, and I honestly have no solid idea of how things will go tonight.

I can say for a fact that Tillis would have been better off if he had NOT gotten the endorsements of Romney and Jeb Bush. Up until then, people who had been backing Brannon were moving towards Tillis. These endorsement just reeked of big-government Establishment Repub, and the environment here has been anti-Establishment of late.

I played chauffeur for some voters yesterday and today, and it seemed like the turnout was really, really low. But I heard later this afternoon that early voting was high, higher than it was in 2010.

I don’t know what that portends. We’ll find out soon.

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Meunster it would be

cmsinaz on May 6, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Vote for Wall Street vote for Tillis.

Murphy9 on May 6, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Man – I would love to see Roche KO that moonbat Ellmers.

http://frankrocheforcongress.com

Pork-Chop on May 6, 2014 at 7:37 PM

LibFree would be a fragrant Frumunda…

PointnClick on May 6, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Just remember. Good cheese comes from happy cows…

JohnGalt23 on May 6, 2014 at 7:32 PM

From back in 2012: Calif. Judge Tosses Out PETA Lawsuit Against California ‘Happy Cows’ Ads

“The animal rights group had demanded that California dairy farmers prove that California cows are “happy cows,” as the milk board claimed in the ads.”

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 7:40 PM

If you were a cheese what kind of cheese would you be.

Bishop on May 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Cheese stuffed with cheese ,
like me
;-)

burrata on May 6, 2014 at 7:43 PM

*clink * all around
:)

cmsinaz on May 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Hey darlin’
*clink*

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

stuffed jalapeno peppers…

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

bummer about lanceman, ain’t it?

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Havarti with dill.

31giddyup on May 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Hey OC
:)

cmsinaz on May 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

I’m a slice of White American.

fresh air on May 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

What’s up with lance?

cmsinaz on May 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

What’s up with lance?

cmsinaz on May 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

he was hit with the hammer a week or so ago…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Velveeta for me…is that cheese? Me likey.

msupertas on May 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM

stuffed jalapeno peppers…

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Cream cheese or cheddar???

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Grilled cheese

burrata on May 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Darn :(

cmsinaz on May 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

What’s up with lance?

cmsinaz on May 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

he was hit with the hammer a week or so ago…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM

No way!! What the heck happened??

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

I’m a slice of White American.

fresh air on May 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Always gotta be a racist.
//

msupertas on May 6, 2014 at 7:51 PM

If my candidate wins, this election is a strong indication of the direction the people want to take the party. If my candidate loses, it shows that the were hoodwinked by a charlatan who has no chance of winning in the general election.

Go my candidate!

FranklinBluth on May 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM

I’m a slice of White American.

fresh air on May 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

“Check Your Privilege”

/Al Sharpton, Brock Oblahblah, Jesse Jackson, Re-rend Wright and Oprah, and Beyonce’ and Lil Wayne…. and Nancy Pelosi. What a mix, huh?

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Hot Air openly endorsing the establishment RINO pick Tillis in North Carolina, why am I not surprised?

tcufrog on May 6, 2014 at 7:54 PM

No way!! What the heck happened??

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

racebaiting libfreeordie…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:55 PM

a silent ban by ed according to lance…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:56 PM

racebaiting libfreeordie…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:55 PM

and the troll is still around ?
:(

burrata on May 6, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Hot Air openly endorsing the establishment RINO pick leader of the most conservative legislature on the country over the 9/11 Truther and convicted fraudster in North Carolina, why am I not surprised?

tcufrog on May 6, 2014 at 7:54 PM

FIFY

joana on May 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

“Check Your Privilege”

I did, and it’s working great.

fresh air on May 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

and the troll is still around ?
:(

burrata on May 6, 2014 at 7:56 PM

yup…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Hot Air openly endorsing the establishment RINO pick Tillis in North Carolina, why am I not surprised?

tcufrog on May 6, 2014 at 7:54 PM

If someone just gave me this piece to read without knowing who wrote it I would have guessed Karl Rove.

Wigglesworth on May 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

No way!! What the heck happened??

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

racebaiting libfreeordie…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:55 PM

a silent ban by ed according to lance…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Maybe just a time out… at least I hope that’s all it is. Dang.

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

is this really the substitute QOTD? if yes, EVENING ALL.

Pepper Jack

CoffeeLover on May 6, 2014 at 7:59 PM

“Hi all, Irish Sharp White Chedder ” said kitty slowly sticking a toe into to the water, checking to see if it is not too cold. ::>)

Bakokitty on May 6, 2014 at 7:59 PM

a silent ban by ed according to lance…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:56 PM

His resurrection as Applehead had me in stitches.

I hope they go easy on him (in the future) for using that sock — I think the fact that he wasn’t really hiding it should count for something …

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Results are coming in much more quickly at the NC SBE site

On the flip side, if she wins easily, closet amnesty boosters in Congress might decide that the issue doesn’t have the power at the polls that it once did and choose to press ahead with it this summer

I hope they are not that stupid. NC is just one state out of 50.

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 8:00 PM

So we are all cheeses,
is HoGGas the Mornay ?

burrata on May 6, 2014 at 8:01 PM

His resurrection as Applehead had me in stitches.

I hope they go easy on him (in the future) for using that sock — I think the fact that he wasn’t really hiding it should count for something …

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Aha! Thanks for the info Shain…

/I still think Libfree is AP but what the heck do I know?

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Bakokitty on May 6, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Be a brave kitty, just jump on in.

fresh air on May 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

I cannot pick a favorite cheese, but it is probably something aerosol.

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:03 PM

I could really go for a Brie en Croute.

But I’ll settle for my Spanish Steak, black beans and yellow rice.

/Cuz I’m raccisss

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Please, Lord. Let this thread not be hijacked by the boring boor!

katy the mean old lady on May 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Voting was a complete waste of time. None of the Repubs had any competition. I didn’t know Jordan was even running. You used to be able to find out who was running for what. Maybe it was in the paper but I don’t get one.

crankyoldlady on May 6, 2014 at 8:05 PM

/I still think Libfree is AP but what the heck do I know?

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

I think Andy Levy is AP , is he ?

burrata on May 6, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Just so everyone knows, earlier today joana shared with us what her reasons are for posting on HA…..

I don’t care what people think about me as long as the message passes.

And TruCons only understand the language of shame and ridicule. You can’t get to them with nuanced or sophisticated speech because their political minds were shaped by the screaming and demagoguery of talk radio. The form follows the function.

I’d rather use a different tone, but I know for a fact this is what works with them, regardless of all the protests.

joana on May 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Maybe just a time out… at least I hope that’s all it is. Dang.

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

nope. it was a permanent ban…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:06 PM

katy the mean old lady on May 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

ROFL! ;-)

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Blue Cheese.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:07 PM

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

YUP. Total bummer about lanceman…

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

joana the moby crawled out from under it’s bridge again…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Perhaps one could give people some context:

joana’s tone is extremely irritating.

That said, I’ll shamelessly admit that right now I’m banging my head against a brick wall at the thought that, not being a NC resident, I made a couple of donations to Brannon. I confess I had no idea about some of the stuff I read here. Bummer. Oh well.

droponov on May 6, 2014 at 4:24 PM

OK, this is coming from someone who isn’t in NC so what I have is what I see here. I know I’m not going to get the truth from the media.

Now, forget about Tillis for the moment….

If half the stuff joana has said about Brannon is true (and she has some pretty convincing links), she’s right, like it or not.

And even if none of it is true, it’s obviously out there already, and will be used in exactly the same way as if it was all completely true. Which means it will be used exactly as joana has said, and I think all of us know it. On the other hand, if it is true, it will affect more than the NC race. And I think we all know that too.

That being said, the evidence provided that purported to show that Tillis was an amnesty supporter was pretty weak sauce. Surely, if he truly is, there is better evidence. Showing better evidence would have the effect of avoiding further infighting, I would hope. Infighting is not gonna help anyone but democrats.

runawayyyy on May 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM

joana on May 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Cream cheese or cheddar???

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Both! I’m easy! ;)

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

burrata on May 6, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Andy Levy is very easy on the eyes.
what?

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Forgot to lock the door again?

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Geeze, jaonna, csdeven and lourdes. All the idiocy of bluegills without the occasional comedy.

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Here in OH Dist 8, the turnout thus far has been less than 5% (as of 1500 hrs).

So… now it comes down to who’s more engaged, the Boehner loyalists, or the local TPs.

And no, Boehner didn’t get my vote.

CPT. Charles on May 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

His resurrection as Applehead had me in stitches.

I hope they go easy on him (in the future) for using that sock — I think the fact that he wasn’t really hiding it should count for something …

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 8:00 PM

You pretty much just killed whatever chance lanceman had…

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Hiya, Sweetikins!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Forgot to lock the door again?

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

yep…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Cream cheese or cheddar???

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Both! I’m easy! ;)

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

That ain’t what I heard LOL

Key West Reader on May 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Lance says that he’ll only come back as himself.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Hey yank.

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

All the idiocy of bluegills without the occasional comedy.

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

fer sher…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Oh yeah… Colby for me.

CPT. Charles on May 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

It is extremely difficult to take out an incumbent, even an unpopular one.

Wigglesworth on May 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Run-off’s in 3 weeks.
Dewhurst should be toast.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:13 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

As well he should…and he shoulda never been banned…

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Andy Levy is very easy on the eyes.
what?

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Andy Levy is very easy on the eyes. when he has a gun

burrata on May 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Please, Lord. Let this thread not be hijacked by the boring boor!

katy the mean old lady on May 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

ARRRGGGHHH!

You jinxed us … ;-)

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:13 PM

And it can’t come soon enough. My mailbox and phone line has been burning up with local state rep runoff stuff.

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Hot Air openly endorsing the establishment RINO pick Tillis in North Carolina, why am I not surprised?

tcufrog on May 6, 2014 at 7:54 PM

LOL why do you come on this site?

thebrokenrattle on May 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

It is extremely difficult to take out an incumbent, even an unpopular one.

Wigglesworth on May 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM

If NC re-elects that amnesty-loving, Zuckerberg-backed Ellmers, they get what they deserve. Just like AZ did with McCain. If Steve Stockman had run even a halfway decent campaign, Cornyn might be in a runoff now. But alas….

TxAnn56 on May 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

thebrokenrattle on May 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

He likes getting gigged.

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

You pretty much just killed whatever chance lanceman had…

ladyingray on May 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

No, no — I would have never done that.

According to ALT, AllahPundit figured it out and banned Applehead as well …

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

cozmo on May 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

We’ve got the municipal elections on Saturday. That’s it.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:17 PM

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

It wasn’t AP-it was Ed.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:17 PM

I just had a sign come to me.
The underdog gets slammed, pushed to the curb, and then runs off to victory. (True story, I did that about 15min ago).

nobar on May 6, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Run-off’s in 3 weeks.
Dewhurst should be toast.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:13 PM

I’m hoping for breadcrumbs. Dewhurst is starting to throw the same mud at Dan Patrick like he did at Cruz. You’d think that loser would learn by now.

TxAnn56 on May 6, 2014 at 8:18 PM

It wasn’t AP-it was Ed.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Thanks for the correction …

ShainS on May 6, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Havarti with dill.

31giddyup on May 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

=)
I knew I picked you as mama for a reason.

bazil9 on May 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM

TxAnn56 on May 6, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Hope he enjoys life as a private citizen. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM

It wasn’t AP-it was Ed.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2014 at 8:17 PM

yep, was going to say the same thing…

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Extra sharp cheddar. Pepper jack. Colby. Muenster. Even cottage cheese (small curd, fat free).

If it’s cheese, I’m in.

cheers

eon

eon on May 6, 2014 at 8:20 PM

joana on May 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

By all means. How this for context?

29/130 ain’t bad. What they paying you?

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lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 8:21 PM

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 8:21 PM

What thread was that?

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:23 PM

What thread was that?

OmahaConservative on May 6, 2014 at 8:23 PM

the one about Hagan and Tillis

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM

AoSHQDD says Tillis wins with more than 40% of the vote.

sentinelrules on May 6, 2014 at 8:25 PM

sentinelrules on May 6, 2014 at 8:25 PM

It would like that way. He’s at 46% with 45% of the precincts reported. It depends on which precincts have reported.

lineholder on May 6, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Tillis got this. Kay Hagan and the crazies lost the first round.

As a bonus, nutcase millionaire D’Annunzio -who would be able to spend millions on the general and syphon votes away from Tillis- is losing the Libertarian primary.

joana on May 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM

So the RINOS are winning all around tonight, huh? Ugh.

Jack_Burton on May 6, 2014 at 8:29 PM

12% Reporting

T. Tillis 44.8%
G. Brannon 28.4%

Jaibones on May 6, 2014 at 8:30 PM

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