Jay Carney: I don’t know if we’ll cooperate with the Benghazi select committee

posted at 3:21 pm on May 5, 2014 by Allahpundit

Lot o’ strategizin’ happening today vis-a-vis the committee, and not just on the GOP side. Greg Sargent hears from a source on the Hill that Pelosi and company are trying to decide whether to boycott.

A House Dem leadership aide points out that there is precedent for such a boycott. Back in 2005, House Dem leaders declined to participate in GOP hearings into what went wrong with the Bush administration’s response to the Katrina disaster, arguing that Republicans had set up the committee in a way that ensured it would not conduct a serious probe into what happened.

The House Dem leadership aide notes that Dems are looking at their 2005 response as a possible model on how to respond to the new Benghazi committee, though no decisions have been made.

“There is deep concern in the Caucus that participation in this sham committee, like the 2005 Katrina committee, would serve to legitimize what has and by all signs will continue to be a political operation,” the Dem leadership aide tells me.

Steny Hoyer told Politico today that they haven’t decided what to do yet. I made the case for why boycotting is smart-ish in the last post; if your goal is to delegitimize the proceedings, there’s no clearer way to make that point (especially to your friends in the media, who undoubtedly share your contempt for this) than to skip it entirely. The counterargument is that the average low-information voter watching soundbites of the day’s hearings at 10 p.m. on cable either won’t know or won’t care about the boycott. All he’ll know is that Trey Gowdy is pounding the table and seems utterly convinced that there’s a cover-up, and that the witness he’s grilling seems shifty and nervous. If you’re a Dem, maybe it’s better to have people on the committee pounding the table about what a farce this all is so that the news networks have something for the “counterpoint” part of the soundbite highlight reel.

What Democrats are really trying to do right now, I think, is calculate the odds that there’s something hugely damaging out there that might be uncovered by the committee — in other words, the odds that the GOP’s been right about Benghazi all along. Looks to me like they’re 90 percent sure that this’ll be a nothingburger, but that remaining 10 percent carries a big risk. Namely, if they participate in the committee, spend three weeks screeching that it’s a sham and an insult to the president, and then a smoking gun turns up, they’ll be as humiliated as Obama is. That’s another reason to boycott, to keep their distance not only from a committee that their base finds dubious but to keep their distance from any findings that might truly hurt O. Or would their absence actually backfire by signaling to the public that they didn’t care enough to find the truth? Political actors don’t like uncertainty and Pelosi’s dealing with a lot of uncertainty right now.

Exit question for legal eagles: What would it mean for the White House to not “cooperate” with the committee? I assume that means claiming executive privilege over documents that Gowdy wants, which has worked so far in other contexts to hinder GOP investigations but would look awfully shady in this case, especially with the White House bleating that this is all much ado about nothing. Would they, or could they, refuse to send witnesses too? Even Kerry and Hillary routinely appear/appeared before Congress. It’d look suspicious if the key players suddenly clammed up now.


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Boycott = Guilt/Coverup

kevinkristy on May 5, 2014 at 3:25 PM

“I don’t know if we’ll cooperate w/the Benghazi select committee” unless the Hilary for president team wants this matter still churning so she can claim Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. We’re talking to her people right now and we’ll get back to you.

athenadelphi on May 5, 2014 at 3:26 PM

That sure would make them look guilty. But then again, cooperation would make them look guilty too. Because they’re guilty.

So they are going down the “delegitimize” path. It’s the only option.

This scandal must be even worse than I thought.

forest on May 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Hi, I’m the first black president, and I know you can’t do anything to me.
 
Mt. Rushmore here I come!

rogerb on May 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Even Kerry and Hillary routinely appear/appeared before Congress. It’d look suspicious if the key players suddenly clammed up now.

Taking the 5th always looks good in hearings. Especially from the top ranks. :)

butch on May 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

…So they are going down the “delegitimize” path. It’s the only option.

This scandal must be even worse than I thought.

forest on May 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Yes, I agree.

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

It’d look suspicious if the key players suddenly clammed up now.

Hillary wont show up even if she is subpoenaed. She cant afford it politically, especially if she decides to run. Way too many Skeletons in her Benghazi closet.

Johnnyreb on May 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Maybe they find out what Amb. Stevens was REALLY doing in Benghazi.

ctmom on May 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

They won’t be cooperating? So we’ll be treated to a parade of administration current and former officials taking the fifth?

I can hardly wait.

theCork on May 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Claiming Executive Privilege is great if it is something like foreign policy meetings.

When it is employees of the government getting assassinated in an act of war perpetrated on the Nation and you do nothing… no, there is no EP for that. Congress has every right to investigate the running of the government, and this counts.

ajacksonian on May 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Goebbels loves Carney, a lot.

Is he a mushroom, kept in the dark?

Is he that stupid? Cover-ups are worse than the deeds.

Leftists in congress and on HA, have you no decency?

Where do you stand with how one branch ignores the other. God, the thuggery will kill you if a R will be president.

Your day will come, you latrine-dwellers, you Guinea Worms of the land.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Exit question for legal eagles: What would it mean for the White House to not “cooperate” with the committee? I assume that means claiming executive privilege over documents that Gowdy wants, which has worked so far in other contexts to hinder GOP investigations but would look awfully shady in this case, especially with the White House bleating that this is all much ado about nothing. Would they, or could they, refuse to send witnesses too? Even Kerry and Hillary routinely appear/appeared before Congress. It’d look suspicious if the key players suddenly clammed up now.

That’s a joke right?

They will have absolutely no problem claiming executive privilege while in the very next breath claim there’s nothing to see here and act like your a wacko just for asking.

They are truly shameless.

WisRich on May 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM

really? why wouldn’t you cooperate? if you did nothing wrong and you have nothing to hide, what’s the problem?

Sachiko on May 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM

In the end that is all this will amount to…..table pounding. The Dems are despicable and the GOP is toothless.

dddave on May 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM

This s/b internalized by each decent citizen of the US.

H/t MontanaMmmmm

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:34 PM

But if there’s nothing to hide……..

bsinc1962 on May 5, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Mt. Rushmore here I come!

rogerb on May 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Should that happen it will usher in a real first for me. It will be the first time I will have to seriously consider defacing one of our national monuments.

Oldnuke on May 5, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Would Boehner go ahead with this if they didn’t already have the goods and risk a political disaster? He has refused to empanel a select committee until now.

He’s a squish, but he values his own backside. Further, he just set Trey Gowdy to run it.

Ok Dems. Sit it out.

dogsoldier on May 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Democrats are now done in 2014 and 2016 elections. After Trey gets done, democrats will be facing TWO STRAIGHT ELECTION WHIPEOUT. 60 seat majority for Republicans in 2017 why not? Cruz or a Walker winning big why not?

Democrats will hate the name Barack. Barack will cause their party to be a minority party for a very long time. All because Barack LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE about Benghazi.

There is hope for America if we can just survive till 2017, when conservatives can bring back hope and jobs.

BroncosRock on May 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Republicans should stop saying “redacted documents”. If there is no legitimate legal or national security reason to black something out, then a better term is “doctored documents”.

They should be game planning all of their language.

forest on May 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM

but would look awfully shady in this case, especially with the White House bleating that this is all much ado about nothing.

The rats of HA have all received the talking points.

Petraeus must be deposed too.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM

President’s Oath of Office:

The Oath of Office:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Among a President’s job duties, responsibilities (why the Office exists, what holders of that Office are required to do):

develop federal policies (that includes agencies in Presidential Cabinet).

The buck stops with the President. Hillary is likely as he is to have been a cad as to the lives at Benghazi, but the buck stops with Obama at this time.

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM

“On whose watch” Hillary will probably want this out now so when she runs this will all be old news. By then the media will have concocted some fantastic story about how Hillary has weathered the tough foreign policy challenges. We’ve never had a more prepared fighter than Hillary. Blah Blah Blah… And what? The GOP is running a first term Senator with no foreign policy experience?!!! Oy! I don’t like where this irony boat may be heading. It won’t put Hillary out of 2016 – it will put old news Benghazi behind her.
There will be just enough cooperation for some more theatrics in order to make the campaign commercials.

rhombus on May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM

We all know that each and every Dim that agrees to be on the committee will do nothing but defend the Regime and attempt to obstruct the findings.

And we also all know that all we’ll hear from the Dims is blah, blah, racists, blah blah.

So, I’d just as soon not have to mute all the (D)’s while I’m watching the proceedings.

There is no chance they’ll be objective. There is no chance they will contribute anything positive toward getting to the truth, so I really couldn’t care less if there are any (D)’s on the committee or not.

Meople on May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Maybe they find out what Amb. Stevens was REALLY doing in Benghazi.

ctmom on May 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

It was not what Stevens was doing…..he was a pawn.
He thought he was helping the people of Libya…..
He was just a distraction to pull the focus from Obama
running weapons to the Islamic revolutionaries.
Stevens found out and was murdered before he could blow the whistle….

It was done on Sept. 11 because then Obama and Hillary could shift the blame
so as to cover up what they were doing…..the YouTube video was a stupid idea.

redguy on May 5, 2014 at 3:38 PM

This story is highly interesting, not in any way anyone has reported, yet.

The media have the story, from both sides. Some hinted on Friday that they do.

It has just begun. Believe me the rats are going 1000 miles and hour, in the latrine.

Blame Romney for letting them get away with it.

But if we allow our nation’s leaders to let politics obscure how our government works, we are making a fatal mistake. That’s how fools lose the Republic.

And those four in Benghazi weren’t fools. They died for our country, and years of political cover-up can’t obscure that.

Again, their names were Stevens, Smith, Doherty and Woods.

They didn’t die for politics.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:38 PM

I hope and pray that the “Treymonster” gorges on Demcake. I hope he literally eviscerates them. Please God, let them have a flame-throwing smoking gun. Topple it all, baby!!

HomeoftheBrave on May 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Petraeus must be deposed too.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Amen!

rhombus on May 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM

It’s good to be Fuhrer.

VorDaj on May 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Has anybody ever heard of impeachment? Secondly, you have to remember that Carney came to the White House via Joe Biden. That alone is scary enough.

savage24 on May 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM

…arguing that Republicans had set up the committee in a way that ensured it would not conduct a serious probe into what happened.

The White House, Department of State and all Democrats in Congress have materially obstructed a factual investigation into our countrymens deaths in Benghazi. They hidden evidence, intimidated witnesses, botched the investigation, asked us “what does it matter” and tried to marginalize these murders as the byproduct of low-level employees decisions.

Nonsense. Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama are knee deep in this. They’ve thrown just about anyone possible, including the victims, under the bus to advance their political careers. They have lied about their roles and decisions they did and did not make which led to this tragedy.

It is about time the facts were revealed. If Democrats want to be bystanders to the truth- by now they should be comfortable with that anyway. They are the most untrustworthy liars to ever occupy our Congress.

Marcus Traianus on May 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Can anyone name a single hearing or investigation to date that means a dang thing? Just one?

dddave on May 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Would they, or could they, refuse to send witnesses too? Even Kerry and Hillary routinely appear/appeared before Congress. It’d look suspicious if the key players suddenly clammed up now.

Kerry and Hillary appeared IN Congress as Senators. Kerry might be able to slip away by claiming that he was a Senator at the time of the Benghazi attack, and that he inherited this issue from Hillary. But what would Hillary’s excuse be? That she fell and hit her head, but was miraculously cured in October 2016?

Steve Z on May 5, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Democrats are now done in 2014 and 2016 elections. After Trey gets done, democrats will be facing TWO STRAIGHT ELECTION WHIPEOUT. 60 seat majority for Republicans in 2017 why not? Cruz or a Walker winning big why not?

Democrats will hate the name Barack. Barack will cause their party to be a minority party for a very long time. All because Barack LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE about Benghazi.

There is hope for America if we can just survive till 2017, when conservatives can bring back hope and jobs.

BroncosRock on May 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM

This is why all they will do the rest of the Obama administration is push amnesty and cry social justice.
Obama will get out his pen and write as many executive orders as he can – constitutional or not – he does not care – at this point he will try to overwhelm the system so it will barely function by 2016….at that point the democrats will heap all the crap on the Republicans as it collapses.

Obama, Holder and Hillary really belong in Gitmo…..

redguy on May 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM

The rats of HA have all received the talking points.

Petraeus must be deposed too.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Petraeus flat out lied to the House Intelligence Committee three days after Benghazi when he testified to them that it was a “spontaneous” protest over a YouTube video that was responsible for Benghazi. When committed knowingly, as former federal prosecutor, and PJM columnist, Andrew C. McCarthy pointed out some time ago, such deception {otherwise known as bald faced lying, which even not under oath, when before congress) is a felony.

Blaming the YouTube video for the violence was also, in effect, blaming free speech, which is a Petraeus hallmark when Muslims “act out”.

VorDaj on May 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Has anybody ever heard of impeachment? Secondly, you have to remember that Carney came to the White House via Joe Biden. That alone is scary enough.

savage24 on May 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM

The Republicans are afraid to impeach the first black President…..
then it will be they are afraid to impeach the first female President….
You see how that works?

redguy on May 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Jay Carney: I don’t know if we’ll cooperate with the Benghazi select committee

…why?…because Republicans didn’t cooperate with putting ObamaCare… on the books?

KOOLAID2 on May 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM

They won’t be cooperating? So we’ll be treated to a parade of administration current and former officials taking the fifth?

I can hardly wait.

theCork on May 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

I think they’d be more likely to just not show up.

Missy on May 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Liberals will try to paint this as the great victimization of Hillary Clinton to prevent her from running for Potus.

Sickening tactic….but that’s what they did during the Lewinsky deal and that’s how they’ll try to play this.

workingclass artist on May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM

The rats of HA have all received the talking points.

Petraeus must be deposed too.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM

At this point, much of the military leadership must be deposed. It’s the only way back from
totally tyranny.

redguy on May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM

What is it with Dem lawmakers anyway? When things don’t go their way they boycott and run into other states and stuff. Nothing but a bunch of spoiled, little babies.

HiJack on May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM

David “Rat Lines to Jihads” Petraeus hired very high priced lawyer, Robert Barnett, lawyer to the political elite. I’m thinking maybe he should have hired OJ’s lawyers.

VorDaj on May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Truths will come out with or without the dems.If I were Gowdy I would get all the muslim brotherhood supporters/members of this regime on my witness list first and put some fear into them.There is a lot to this and the reason for us to interfere in Libya was to save the terrorists in Benghazi,why?

tim c on May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM

In the end that is all this will amount to…..table pounding. The Dems are despicable and the GOP is toothless.
dddave on May 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Normally I’d agree with you, but Trey Gowdy? This is going to be very interesting.

Can’t wait. This is way overdue.

kim roy on May 5, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Looks to me like they’re 90 percent sure that this’ll be a nothingburger, but that remaining 10 percent carries a big risk.

So the dems are clearly planning in terms of politics in order to come out ahead politically but, we’re not supposed to believe that only the Right is “being political”.

this is so ridiculous. All the Dems have to do is take a genuine interest in the procedure to get to the bottom of it. If a nothingburger they get to apologize to the base but say it was the right thing to do to finally clear up and move on. If they do find something, there’s plenty of time to distance themselves and especially save the party from a dearth of future leadership in congress.

It doesn’t have to be a game of Survivor Island. They’re almost masochistic with the political games they choose to play.

beselfish on May 5, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Can anyone name a single hearing or investigation to date that means a dang thing? Just one?

dddave on May 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Watergate.

HiJack on May 5, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Not following the law will have consequences, and perhaps not the consequences they expect. I am a peaceful man, but I know people who are not so peaceful and they are getting really angry about the government not following the law. One of them is in the military and drives a tank. As I said, I am a peaceful man, but not everyone is.

TMink on May 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM

…But what would Hillary’s excuse be? That she fell and hit her head, but was miraculously cured in October 2016?

Steve Z on May 5, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Looks like the Dems are trying, within their closed community, to determine who they’ll sacrifice: Hillary or the Obama Myth.

It’s an ongoing battle among Dems between Hill&Bill and “the Obama” thing and legacy, who will, among popular opinion, be held accountable.

Literally, Obama’s the responsible one but I don’t think the Left can handle that and they’ll try to weather Hillary through this “Benghazi thing” by the “vast rightwing conspiracy”. She and the Dems, all, tried this with the Lewinsky scandal and Bill Clinton’s lying under oath as to his reports and they’ll try it again with Hillary in effort to get her elected to the WH.

But I really don’t think the Left can handle letting Obama be realistically and rightfully blamed, held accountable, for anything. Their entire “class” process hinges on keeping him elevated as Myth and Icon.

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Diana West: “There is more at work here than a foundationally flawed strategy. In its drive to win Islamic hearts and minds, COIN doctrine has become an engine of Islamization inside the U.S. military. To win a Muslim population’s “trust,” U.S. troops are taught deference to Islam — to revere the Quran; not to spit [or pee] toward Mecca (thousands of miles away); and to condone such un- or anti-Western practices as religious supremacism, misogyny, polygamy, pederasty and cruelty to dogs. Our military has even permitted Islamic law to trump the First Amendment to further COIN goals, as when ISAF commander Petraeus publicly condemned an American citizen for exercising his lawful right to freedom of speech to burn a Quran.

This explains why the reports that CIA director David Petraeus went before the House Intelligence Committee in September and blamed a YouTube Muhammad video for the deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, sounded so familiar. Whatever his motivation, it was all too easy for Petraeus to make free speech the scapegoat for Islamic violence. But so it goes in COIN-world, where jihad and Shariah (Islamic law) are off the table and the First Amendment is always to blame. If there is a lesson here, it is simple: A leader who will betray the First Amendment will betray anything.

VorDaj on May 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Hope the reason this has taken so long is that Republicans really needed hard evidence to go through with it.

So now they have all the information they need and can just toy with the clowns.

the_nile on May 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

The 0bama administration will go down in history as the “Dude, that was like…. two years ago” administration.

UltimateBob on May 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Blaming the YouTube video for the violence was also, in effect, blaming free speech, which is a Petraeus hallmark when Muslims “act out”.

VorDaj on May 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Exactly. obama had him by his gonads, but he should have been a man, in spite of.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Exit question for legal eagles: What would it mean for the White House to not “cooperate” with the committee?

Congress has the power to arrest and imprison administration officials who defy subpoenas. There is even a jail for the miscreants, who can be held until they comply or the congress is adjourned.

Gowdy won’t delay 20 months in the face of defiance of Congressional subpoenas.

novaculus on May 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM

“We’re surrounded, the barbarians are at the gate! Hunker down people, we must protect the president! Remember, it’s not a lie — if you believe it.”

otlset on May 5, 2014 at 3:53 PM

…All the Dems have to do is take a genuine interest in the procedure to get to the bottom of it. If a nothingburger they get to apologize to the base but say it was the right thing to do to finally clear up and move on. If they do find something, there’s plenty of time to distance themselves and especially save the party from a dearth of future leadership in congress.

It doesn’t have to be a game of Survivor Island. They’re almost masochistic with the political games they choose to play.

beselfish on May 5, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Democrats are their own nation, country and government all wrapped up in themselves. Everyone else is just visiting or they’re intruding. It’s the Dems’ worst failing, that they can’t understand that government is supposed to represent all Americans, not just the Left.

The Dems denied — and many still do today — that Clinton’s impeachment, DUE TO HIS LYING UNDER OATH, was credible but they were SURE that Watergate burglary was the worse thing that ever happened by any President, or thereabouts.

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 3:53 PM

If Benghazi Was a Non-Scandal – Why So Many Lies?

“Picking up on a point made by Robert Stacy McCain in his article–
Benghazi: A Hole in the Tick-Tock

Indeed. If there is no difference, if Benghazi really didn’t matter, then why did the president and the Secretary of State lie about it for weeks afterwards? Why was it so important to lie about it? Just this week, Jay Carney lied about it again!!

20 months later and we still do not have answers to basic questions. For instance, where was the president that evening while his ambassador was being killed? We now know he was not in the situation room at any time during the evening. Where was this absentee president? What was he doing that was more important than Benghazi? We still do not know…we can only guess…

Some articles for those who need some background:

Cairo Egypt protests planned before anti-Muslim video was ever released [Oopsy, guess we just lost that connection...]
Documents Show Obama Administration Was Warned of Benghazi Attack Days Before 9-11 Assault [They knew it was coming...]
The Military Knew Immediately That The Benghazi Attack Was A Terrorist Attack And Not A “Protest Gone Awry” [They knew who did it...]
Benghazi Emails Show White House Effort to Protect Obama During Election [Why is Benghazi important? They did not want obama to take the blame and wanted his re-election...this action may have changed the result of a presidential election]
You Just Cannot Make This Stuff Up: Jay Carney: New Emails Not About Benghazi …Even Though They’re Entitled ‘Benghazi’ [Four people dead. Cover up still in progress...]
BREAKING: New Benghazi Documents Reveal Obama White House Hid Truth From Congress (Video) [Obstruction Of Justice? Evidence Of Systemic, Intentional Effort To Hide The Truth From Congress...]
Many liberals said at the time, “I’m sure the Obama administration will look into it.” Yeah, that misplaced confidence is not looking so good right now, is it?

Just a reminder, this next item is the kind of thing that happens when there is no accountability and no effort to identify who did what… Three Story Museum Devoted to Islam Planned at Ground Zero…”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/05/if-benghazi-was-a-non-scandal-why-so-many-lies/

workingclass artist on May 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

What Democrats are really trying to do right now, I think, is calculate the odds that there’s something hugely damaging out there that might be uncovered by the committee — in other words, the odds that the GOP’s been right about Benghazi all along. Looks to me like they’re 90 percent sure that this’ll be a nothingburger, but that remaining 10 percent carries a big risk.

Gotta disagree, Allah. I think they’re 90% sure the truth will be devastating, and they’re terrified of it. They just have no idea what to do, and they are grasping at straws.

novaculus on May 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Hillary wont show up even if she is subpoenaed. She cant afford it politically, especially if she decides to run. Way too many Skeletons in her Benghazi closet.

Johnnyreb on May 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

She’ll suddenly have a serious medical procedure in a farawy foreign land.

crankyoldlady on May 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Exit question for legal eagles: What would it mean for the White House to not “cooperate” with the committee?

Congress has the power to arrest and imprison administration officials who defy subpoenas. There is even a jail for the miscreants, who can be held until they comply or the congress is adjourned.

Gowdy won’t delay 20 months in the face of defiance of Congressional subpoenas.

novaculus on May 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM

So, what happened with John Kerry? He “declined to appear” because he “had a scheduling conflict” (scheduled to be in Mexico on day he was requested by subpoena to appear before Congress to testify).

Anyone know what happened there? Kerry just “declined to appear” and that was OK despite subpoena? That Kerry would even make such a declination is horrible.

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Gowdy is not Issa and not Boner.

Good luck Mr. Gowdy.

I hope you and family remain safe. The goons are capable of anything.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Way too many Skeletons in her Benghazi closet.

Johnnyreb on May 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

The scumhag has blood on her hands and won’t run.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Gowdy said on Greta he’d volunteer to be a summer intern on Benghazi committee if Boehner didn’t choose him.

workingclass artist on May 5, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Many liberals said at the time, “I’m sure the Obama administration will look into it.” Yeah, that misplaced confidence is not looking so good right now, is it?…

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/05/if-benghazi-was-a-non-scandal-why-so-many-lies/

workingclass artist on May 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Obama/Dems’ routine tread, “It’s under investigation,” has worn way-thin at this time…

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 3:59 PM

No doubt that the Democrats are taking this very seriously. After all, look at all the heavy hitters that they are bringing out so early in this matter. One problem for the Democrats is that the scope of the question is becoming tighter.

Was the truth altered for the purpose of personal gain (re-election)?

This single question is the most damaging the Democrats will have to face. What are their limits as to what they will say or do for the sake of personal gain in getting re elected.

jpcpt03 on May 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Hi, I’m the first black president, and I know you can’t do anything to me. If I was a white and GOP, I’d have been executed for treason by now. Neener neener neener.

Mt. Rushmore here I come!

rogerb on May 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

FIFY

The Rogue Tomato on May 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I think the next time the Executive Branch (IRS) wants to question my taxes, I’ll just inform them that their investigation is partisan (and probably is actually) and that I may decide to not co-operate.

If Obama doesn’t have to obey the law neither do I.

ConstantineXI on May 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

By the way the only reason John Boehner is doing this because he is under 50% in his race. Thank YOU TEA PARTY. THANK YOU.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/04/boehner-below-50-percent-support-in-own-district-ahead-of-tuesdays-primary/?advD=1248,41002

BroncosRock on May 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Let em boycott. It would be more watchable, like if FNC fired all their liberal blowhards.

Akzed on May 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

VorDaj on May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM
Good One. Very good. … OJ’s lawyers indeed.

Missilengr on May 5, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

If he has a legitimate scheduling conflict, that is easily resolved. I don’t think there will be much patience shown for a string of such “scheduling conflicts”.

novaculus on May 5, 2014 at 4:02 PM

I think we are at a point of constitutional crisis where the exec arm of govt is thumbing its nose at all other arms of govt, and time to bring them done to size. I think they should threaten impeachment hearings, (because during then, nothing can be redacted) if that is what it takes to get info

ConservativePartyNow on May 5, 2014 at 4:04 PM

The democrats might not look so ridiculous if they weren’t also screeching that the IRS investigation is purely partisan and driven by whacko conspiracy theorists.

LASue on May 5, 2014 at 4:05 PM

We must make sure the government media covers this. No point in doing it if they do their usual thing.

crankyoldlady on May 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Any takers on a bet that one of the Benghazi perps gets whacked by a drone within the month?

Great cover for Obama.

LASue on May 5, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Carney’s sister at state is a similar liar and scumhag, Goebbel’s niece.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 4:08 PM

It would be more watchable, like if FNC fired all their liberal blowhards.

Akzed on May 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM

My favorite cow on Fox is Jamooo, though she hasn’t been on, lately. She is dumber than my beloved Jeantel.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Translation: Dems don’t believe in learning from mistakes, no matter who makes them.

What’s the definition of Insanity again?

Maddie on May 5, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Exit question for legal eagles: What would it mean for the White House to not “cooperate” with the committee? I assume that means claiming executive privilege over documents that Gowdy wants, which has worked so far in other contexts to hinder GOP investigations but would look awfully shady in this case, especially with the White House bleating that this is all much ado about nothing.

If they don’t cooperate I reserve the right to assume they have something to hide. Dear Liar was more concerned with getting his beauty rest for a Vegas fundraiser than an ambassador in danger of getting murdered. He has no concern for others’ lives.

rbj on May 5, 2014 at 4:11 PM

OT – warning issued for OK.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Don’t you just love Carney. He’s so cute when he pouts.

crankyoldlady on May 5, 2014 at 4:11 PM

I think the smart play on the Democrats’ side is to boycott in the Congress and stonewall in the Administration. Putting Democrats on the Committee gives instant legitimacy to something the Democrats have insisted for 18 months is a political witch hunt (which it is, that doesn’t mean there wasn’t any wrongdoing, though).

Meanwhile the Administration can simply stonewall and run out the clock. Even if there is bombshell, impeachable-grade information on this stuff, I’d give this committee a 1 in 5 chance of finding it and successfully making it a story.

LukeinNE on May 5, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Looks to me like they’re 90 percent sure that this’ll be a nothingburger

Sorry, Allah, but that’s BS. That’s what they’ll tell you publicly, but privately they’d tell you it’s pretty obvious that this was a coordinated cover-up. We already have written proof of this.

crrr6 on May 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM

This is just battle space preparation.

There is zero chance that they will boycott the committee. If they did, they would have egg all over their face when the Republicans find something. Participating means they can grandstand and gum up the works.

The reason for these noises is to make it clear to their base and the Obama administration that they will do what they can to keep in the minds of the electorate that this is a big nothing.

Baggi on May 5, 2014 at 4:13 PM

The CIA operatives(who had their names changed to avoid testifying) lives are now on thin ice. Perfect cover for them going missing and turning up at Marcy park in a non-living state. If my hunch about Hillary is correct.

jake49 on May 5, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Democrats are now done in 2014 and 2016 elections. After Trey gets done, democrats will be facing TWO STRAIGHT ELECTION WHIPEOUT. 60 seat majority for Republicans in 2017 why not? Cruz or a Walker winning big why not?

Democrats will hate the name Barack. Barack will cause their party to be a minority party for a very long time. All because Barack LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE about Benghazi.

There is hope for America if we can just survive till 2017, when conservatives can bring back hope and jobs.

BroncosRock on May 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Keep in mind just how good things are right now for Republicans so when Boehner and the rest of the Republican Establishment predictably figure out how to blow it you’ll know just how much to curse their names.

Ukiah on May 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Took a long time to get Ben Laden. It will take a long time to get Ben Ghazi.
Still sticking to the protest story
Issa is the anti Christ
There is always a crisis so it’s ok that Obama’s laser like focus was on Vegas and fundraising, don’t mind the body count
Tennessee, you outdid yourselves with this Cohen character

TinFin on May 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Expert (VDH): Democrats better off to join Benghazi probe

“The call for a select committee is predicated on those recent memos, with more to come,” said Victor Davis Hanson of the Hoover Institution, referring to last week’s so-called smoking gun emails. “So if they were to boycott it, and if they have another one of these Ben Rhodes memos, they’d look really stupid right before the midterm elections. They’d be better off to go along with it and hope nothing else surfaces.”

Hanson said Dems will want to be able to shape questions for officials who come before the committee, particularly if more material emerges like a previously withheld email by White House speech writer Ben Rhodes that documents efforts to frame the terrorist attack as a response to an anti-Muslim video, and another previously classified email that indicated the attack was immediately identified as an Islamic extremist terrorist attack.

novaculus on May 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Dear Jay: You looked so smug and cute on the dais at the nerd prom.

Do you understand the concept of checks and balances and the role of Congress in limiting abuse of power in the executive branch?

Does the concept of being truthful bother you? Or are you so accustomed to spin and obfuscation that you don’t know where the truth lies?

I would hope that this Select Committee avoids the inclusion of “race card” grandstanders like Clyburn and that those subpoened for testimony are put under oath.

As Nancy Pelosi once said, “It’s time to drain the swamp.”

onlineanalyst on May 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM

They don’t have to cooperate, Congressional subpoenas trump cooperation.

Tater Salad on May 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

If he has a legitimate scheduling conflict, that is easily resolved. I don’t think there will be much patience shown for a string of such “scheduling conflicts”.

novaculus on May 5, 2014 at 4:02 PM

It was hideous that anyone who holds the office of Secy. of State would even TRY that assertion to avoid appearing, such as Kerry did. I mean, he’d certainly know he was being an outright arse by making such a denial…but made it anyway. It was the equivalent of a “F/U” to Congress.

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Note to Carney… This isn’t a “stain on a blue dress” affair. We lost an Ambassador and several SEALS so STFU you twit.

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Jay Carney: I don’t know if we’ll cooperate with the Benghazi select committee

In other words, “Go Fluke yourselves.”

My take on all this is that it was basically a hit on the ambassador because he objected to the U.S. of A. supplying Al-Qaeda with arms, and he didn’t like it one bit and wouldn’t go along with the program and was starting to make waves.

Scum.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Only one thing will bring out the truth…….possible jail time. We know there is nothing to keep them from lying as they have no loyalty to anything but party. Obama and the the liberals will not allow illegality to stop them nor ethics or shame. And they will promise anyone a pardon if they will confess to something Obama was responsible for. Some else will take the fall so our first facist president can skate. And the Obama’s have shown they are willing, like the Clintons, to allow the innocent to take their punishment. Just ask the McDougels and Webb Hubble.

artman1746 on May 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM

What Democrats are really trying to do right now, I think, is calculate the odds that there’s something hugely damaging out there that might be uncovered by the committee — in other words, the odds that the GOP’s been right about Benghazi all along.

Most likely, Boehner has already passed the evidence to his com padres in the DNC, giving them a heads up. There is no way Boehner would establish the select committee in the absence of such evidence. His hand is forced, his decision is political, and not for the good of the country. He’s covering his own butt.

BobMbx on May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Another question that really must be answered:

WHO determined THAT PARTICULAR VIDEO as the one to blame?

Out of thousands of videos, perhaps hundreds of thousands, disavowing and/or condemning Islam, *someone* named that one, particular video.

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Lourdes on May 5, 2014 at 4:19 PM

The Senate approving the appointment of Kerry as SOS was done to prevent him from running for POTUS. Such a foolish man. I think Teraazzzo beats his skinny behind every night.

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM

So Clownboy Carney says that the White House might not cooperate?

As I understand it the House has a Sargent at Arms who has powers to enforce subpoena’s issued by Congress. A writ of Sub (under) poena (penalty) is an instrument that simply states YOU WILL APPEAR at the time and place of this order. If you don’t there are (how shall I put this?) PENALTIES. The penalties could include incarceration for the duration of the Congressional session under which the subpoena was issued. And I don’t think there are any remediations available when it is comes from the House of Represenatives. In other words it is enforceable and if you ignore it you might be toast.

Will be interesting in any case. But I doubt it will be as damaging to King Putt as it SHOULD be. Why? Because the press is largely made up of Democrat/Gimmedat operatives with bylines.

Missilengr on May 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Jay Carney: I don’t know if we’ll cooperate with the Benghazi select committee

c’mon, jay – even I know the answer to this one.

No.

No, you won’t.

Midas on May 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM

The media will continue the cover-up for the administration, like they’ve been doing. The low information voters/poll-takers will see Gowdy as the villain because that’s what they’ll be told – if they’re told anything at all. Conservative media just isn’t that powerful or influential yet. We underestimate the extent to which “republicans are mean and/or racist” still resonates. If the committee gets jammed up, Gowdy better be ready to leave it all on the street.

MT on May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM

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