Ben Rhodes’s brother, the day after Benghazi: The government thinks this could be a coordinated attack, not a video protest

posted at 5:51 pm on May 5, 2014 by Allahpundit

Ben Rhodes’s brother is of course David Rhodes, the president of CBS News — although, if you’re a CBS viewer, maybe I shouldn’t assume that you know that. Anyway, a nifty catch here by John Sexton of Breitbart. The key bit comes 50 seconds in. Quote:

“Our government thinks that, you know, there’s a really good chance this was not just a spontaneous mob reaction to what some thought was an offensive film but actually a coordinated effort timed to the 9/11 anniversary.”

Two days later, Sexton reminds us, Ben Rhodes sent out an e-mail ahead of Susan Rice’s Sunday show appearances urging her “to underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy.” What changed between the time his brother said this on September 12th and the time he sent that e-mail on September 14th? Sharyl Attkisson asked a similar question last week, noting that an e-mail chain at the State Department shows that the feds’ earliest suspicions after the attack had focused on Ansar al-Sharia, the jihadi group that had claimed responsibility for it online, rather than a mob driven to fury by the Mohammed video. Somehow the conventional wisdom shifted from the “planned attack” to the “spontaneous protest” theory in 48 hours. And since, it seems fair to assume, David Rhodes’s knowledge of what “our government” thinks was relayed to him at least in part by his brother Ben, it’s more accurate to say that Ben Rhodes’s thinking in particular shifted during those 48 hours. Why?

Depending upon how closely you want to parse David Rhodes’s language here (specifically the word “just” in the quote above, and hedging with “there’s a really good chance”), you can argue that he’s not ruling out the protest theory, just stressing that there may have been more than one group outside the consulate that night. I don’t read it that way; the “just” sounds like a synonym for “merely,” as if he was dismissing the protest theory and offering the attack theory as a substitute. Maybe Trey Gowdy should ask him. Would CBS cover that or would it be blackout time again?

You know what the real irony of Ben Rhodes’s e-mail is? It sets up an either/or between “the protests were caused by a YouTube video” and “the protests were caused by a broader failure of policy” when in reality there was no need to make that move. The fact that Islamists were screaming outside the embassy in Cairo on the anniversary of 9/11 shouldn’t, rationally, be thought of as a “failure of policy.” Screaming outside a U.S. embassy, especially on the day of AQ’s big victory, is what Islamists do. It’s especially goofy to imagine the White House fretting about policy failures when their policy in Egypt to that point had been to support the Islamists’ “democratic” aspirations to power. The Cairo embassy protest took place two months after a member of the Muslim Brotherhood had become president, with U.S. backing; the people protesting were thus hardcore fanatics (among them Ayman al-Zawahiri’s brother) whom no policy would placate. But Obama got elected promising he’d rebuild America’s reputation in the Middle East, so naturally a raucous, ultimately dangerous protest in Cairo — where he’d given his famous speech a few years before — looked bad for him, proof positive that America was still the Great Satan to some people there despite the Lightbringer’s best efforts. If he hadn’t overpromised so much as a candidate, Ben Rhodes might not have been so panicked in shunting blame off onto a video instead of the fact that jihadis hate America no matter who’s president. But he did overpromise, so here we are.


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Drip,drip,drip…

sandee on May 5, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Is he the one who wanted to thwart Sharyl Attkisson’s efforts to get to the bottom of the story?

scalleywag on May 5, 2014 at 5:58 PM

If he hadn’t overpromised so much as a candidate, Ben Rhodes might not have been so panicked in shunting blame off onto a video instead of the fact that jihadis hate America no matter who’s president. But he did overpromise, so here we are.

“Overpromise” is to “lie”

as

“fragrance” is to “fart”

BobMbx on May 5, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Everybody knew the video story was a hoax from the get go.
The only thing worse than a lie is a very poor and weak lie.

NeoKong on May 5, 2014 at 6:01 PM

The brick wall in “Children of the Damned”

jmtham156 on May 5, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Somehow the conventional wisdom shifted from the “planned attack” to the “spontaneous protest” theory in 48 hours.

Like I said the other day, they changed their story because it looked like Obamas Foreign Policy was failing in a very bad way right before the election.

Johnnyreb on May 5, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Yeah, he totally wouldn’t have spoken to his brother, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser, to get that idea. He probably had a higher placed source.

crrr6 on May 5, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Communist BS.

the_nile on May 5, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Considering that he got insider information from his brother who was helping the cover-up, this could get interesting.

If its such a big nothingburger, then how come all these people lie about what is going on, but tell the truth to a guy who then blabs about it while they continue to lie?

The country is in the very best of hands.

ajacksonian on May 5, 2014 at 6:04 PM

But Obama got elected promising he’d rebuild America’s reputation in the Middle East … If he hadn’t overpromised so much as a candidate…

I think the panic was instigated more by the fact that Barry and his merry band of dimwits had spend the previous week at the Dem Convention pounding their chests about how they killed OBL and that al Qaeda was on the run than by any campaign promises made 4 years before.

rcpjr on May 5, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Considering that he got insider information from his brother who was helping the cover-up, this could get interesting.

If its such a big nothingburger, then how come all these people lie about what is going on, but tell the truth to a guy who then blabs about it while they continue to lie?

The country is in the very best of hands.

ajacksonian on May 5, 2014 at 6:04 PM

They should call him as a witness “What did you know , and when did you know it. Duuude!”.

the_nile on May 5, 2014 at 6:07 PM

So do we have proof that Killery and Valerie and Nancy and
the ” dude” didn’t pop some champagne when they got confirmation that the US counsulate in Banghazi has been totally destroyed and 4 white American men have been killed by muslims ?

burrata on May 5, 2014 at 6:12 PM

They should call him as a witness “What did you know , and when did you know it. Duuude!”.

the_nile on May 5, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Yes they should.

It would be the way to get the ball rolling by starting out with impeachment of the small fish. Don’t go directly to the top but do it a little at a time…its amazing what will happen once a few of these people realize that impeachment is just to get you out of a job and that the special prosecutor is going to put you in jail.

I expect to hear a lot of singing for immunity for full testimony. And the first guy caught out lying during that testimony will be doing time turning big rocks into small rocks. Then the rest will understand that there are limits to Obama’s power as impeachment is neither criminal nor civil in nature but a job dismissal action. It will be interesting to see who Obama tries to save via his pardon. That puts a big, red target on those people and then they have no reason NOT TO SING.

Life is grand.

ajacksonian on May 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM

sandee on May 5, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Yeah, what you said.

Amazing. The most transparent admin evah. But what bothers me most is the abdication of duty by the press, really a sacred duty. That more than anything is the really criminal aspect to everything this moronic administration is, has, or will do.

Chuck Ef on May 5, 2014 at 6:17 PM

You can get away with telling a totally conflicting string of lies in Chicago so long as you don’t tell them in the same news cycle.Nobody gives a damn, and the stakes don’t include responsibility for people who lose their lives serving the city.

After over five years of that BS from Obama on the national stage, it’s beginning to look as if it might not fly over the Potomac, where the responsibility does include matters of life and death.

But we’ll have to wait and see.

novaculus on May 5, 2014 at 6:18 PM

they changed their story because it looked like Obamas Foreign Policy was failing in a very bad way right before the election.

Johnnyreb on May 5, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Failing in a very political way. They were running on decimating Al Qaeda leadership, killing OBL, and putting them on the run. Then comes this very inconvenient attack at Benghazi. So they lied their asses off. By the morning of the 12th, there was a whole tale about spontaneous protests, Libyians fighting side-by-side with Americans to protect “Chris.” There was even a story about how the Libyians rushed Stevens to the hospital and were beside themselves with grief that he had died. These lies were repeated for weeks including on the 25th when Obama lied about that video during his UN speech.

So, now that there is an e-mail affirming that this was a political decision made even before the blood was dry on that column at Benghazi….. the American public deserves answers and not the snotty “time to move on” crap the Democrats are trying to pull.

Happy Nomad on May 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM

It sounds all the world to me like David was prattling away, puffing himself up, about what his brother Ben had leaked to him because he wanted to bask in the perception that he might be privy to some inside information in connection to the inner workings of ‘our government’.

During WWII there was a motto printed on posters and prominently displayed in cities and town across the land. It read “Loose lips sink ships.” and was a firm admonishment to those who worked in and around the defense industry, and the government, in any capacity, to remain silent about any details of their work, shop talk, or their own opinions.

I’ll bet the Obama administration wishes they’d drilled that message into staff about now.

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM

…yep!…if I was a Demorat…I wouldn’t get close to the committee!

KOOLAID2 on May 5, 2014 at 6:25 PM

“Dude, that was 2 years ago!”

Oh, spit. Have we fallen that far?? They should have cut his microphone, and tossed him out on his ear.

Lord Whorfin on May 5, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Duuuuude!

Philly on May 5, 2014 at 6:27 PM

AP – Do you even recall what the accusation (at least the rational one) has been here…that the WH, for political reasons, in an election year, controlled and managed these talking points.
You know…super sinister sh*t.?
 
verbaluce on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 PM

rogerb on May 5, 2014 at 6:30 PM

There were all kinds of sources saying the very next day that it was a planned attack. It was public knowledge. That’s why I was so shocked when the admin decided to brazen it out by blaming the youtube director for the deaths of our people.

juliesa on May 5, 2014 at 6:36 PM

I happened to be watching Fox News when this happened. Their own experts and the ones they brought in said immediately it looked like a coordinated attack and who it was.

crankyoldlady on May 5, 2014 at 6:39 PM

HOT AIR under the same type of spam attack as the Drudge report has been apparently.

The Candy Crush saga app as came rolling across this site and blocked me from accessing content. I had to come back and type quickly.

Anyone else?

PappyD61 on May 5, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Because “Al Queda is on the run!” sounded pretty stupid when terrorists were attacking a U.S. embassy.

Bishop on May 5, 2014 at 6:41 PM

George Will is doubling down on his Benghazi naysaying on Special Report.

He has really gone around the bend on this one.

novaculus on May 5, 2014 at 6:44 PM

‘Toons of the Day: ‘Get Over It Already. It Was Like So Totally Two Seconds Ago, Dude!‘

Resist We Much on May 5, 2014 at 6:17 PM

(:->)…thank you so much!…for putting that together!

KOOLAID2 on May 5, 2014 at 6:48 PM

It sets up an either/or between “the protests were caused by a YouTube video” and “the protests were caused by a broader failure of policy” when in reality there was no need to make that move.

What if all this was a WH engineered and executed assassination of Americans ?
The WH knew that once the killings were over, there will be questions so they prepared for that, in advance, the same time they planned the ” attack “. They just had not perfected their lies and blames yet by the time the attack they planned went smoothly but damn those Republicans poking their noses everywhere !

burrata on May 5, 2014 at 6:50 PM

PappyD61 on May 5, 2014 at 6:40 PM

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ajacksonian on May 5, 2014 at 6:51 PM

The fact that Islamists were screaming outside the embassy in Cairo on the anniversary of 9/11 shouldn’t, rationally, be thought of as a “failure of policy.”

It most certainly was. The riot outside the Egyptian embassy was staged to demand the Blind Sheikh’s release, it had little if anything to do with the video. The state department apologized for the video before the riot to expressly plant the idea that the riots were about the video rather than the failed administration policy of supporting the MB and the Arab Spring.

Rancher on May 5, 2014 at 6:54 PM

If he hadn’t overpromised so much as a candidate, Ben Rhodes might not have been so panicked in shunting blame off onto a video instead of the fact that jihadis hate America no matter who’s president. But he did overpromise, so here we are.

Allah – you’re right on everything, except this last part. It’s not the promise made by Barry, it’s the actors involved with Cairo.

As pointed out, Zawahiri’s brother was a spearhead in Cairo. He chose the date. He gathered the larger masses.

If the Zero Admin admits Benghazi was part of that movement, then people will start mentioning the player’s in charge. So to the average person the narrative would become..

“Barry’s Mid-East policy freed the brother of the AQ leader who within months of being released, attacked our embassies and killed four of our people”.

Or – they blame a video and play into the stereotype of the Primitive Muslim.

From a political angle, they had no choice.

budfox on May 5, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Half of this scandal is a scandal not of the government’s making, but of the media’s. No one seriously believes–or no one who is serious believes–that the media would have covered this–and covered this up–the same way if there were a Republican in the White House. They knew the WH’s game from the start: Stall…stall…stall….stall…stall….until: that’s old news!…ancient history…why are you still harping on that ossified little mess-up?

The media played along, and are still doing so.

HakerA on May 5, 2014 at 7:05 PM

… it seems fair to assume, David Rhodes’s knowledge of what “our government” thinks was relayed to him at least in part by his brother Ben…

The Good News – the juveniles and jackasses who run the White House are not so stupid that they couldn’t figure out, with the help of the CIA, that this wasn’t about an internet video.

The Bad News – the juveniles and jackasses who run the White House are so corrupt and dishonest that they will make up any kind of insane story and peddle it on national television in the hope of misleading the American people about their incompetence.

Jaibones on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

I have a dead horse named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick it for a while? It may be easier on your continence than the poor minorities which are normally on the receiving end.

acetylene420 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Face the Trey.

There were 5 months of complaints about security, Killary ignored them all.

Christopher Stevens was a gay man who was raped in the middle of the street, beaten, and killed and dragged through a mob of Jihadi’s.

Let’s not even mention what our SEALS did to get in there to defend him. Obama slept. Hillary was likely drunk with Huma.

All we want is the truth and Trey Gowdy is about to deliver the truth.

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 7:12 PM

I have a dead horse named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick it for a while? It may be easier on your continence than the poor minorities which are normally on the receiving end.

acetylene420 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

If you had a shred of credibility you would welcome the investigation, Obama Pajama Boy.

/Spit

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Because “Al Queda is on the run!” sounded pretty stupid when terrorists were attacking a U.S. embassy.

Bishop on May 5, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Weren’t that a song by Sir Paul and his band Wings?

HonestLib on May 5, 2014 at 7:14 PM

How about this
http://therightscoop.com/muslim-brotherhood-agent-on-the-benghazi-smoking-gun-email-distribution-list/

Walid Shoebat found an interesting name on the recently revealed Benghazi email’s distribution list from Ben Rhodes:

The ‘smoking gun’ email that reveals who instructed Susan Rice to blame the Benghazi attack on a video also exposes a recipient named Mehdi K. Alhassani. Alhassani was the leader of the Muslim Student Association (MSA), a Muslim Brotherhood front group and attended the sister mosque of the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center (ISBCC) mosque attended by the Boston Marathon bombers.
It is a mystery how Alhassani slipped through the cracks to become a Special Assistant to the Office of the Chief of Staff, National Security Council Staff, and Executive Office of the President. It is unknown why a few hours before the Benghazi attack, Alhassani met in the White House with Samir Mayekar, a George Soros ‘fellow’ for an unscheduled visit.

burrata on May 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM

I have a dead horse named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick it for a while? It may be easier on your continence than the poor minorities which are normally on the receiving end.

acetylene420 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Send it to Cindy Sheehan

burrata on May 5, 2014 at 7:17 PM

I am a horse’s ass named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick me for a while?

acifidity101 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Why yes. Yes we do.

Jaibones on May 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

I have a dead horse named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick it for a while? It may be easier on your continence than the poor minorities which are normally on the receiving end.

acetylene420 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Run away pooswah.. Run away!!

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Weren’t that a song by Sir Paul and his band Wings?

HonestLib on May 5, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Band “of Jihadi’s On The Run”

Bad thing is that they were NOT on the run.

Christopher Stevens, our Ambassador to Libya was anally raped and dragged through the streets of Benghazi.

/Shhh… don’t tell the first gay President about that … It might just ruin his narrative.

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 7:23 PM

I have a dead horse named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick it for a while? It may be easier on your continence than the poor minorities which are normally on the receiving end.

acetylene420 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Sorry, but the acetylene419 Unit was much funnier.

Del Dolemonte on May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Allah, the policy failure was not related to placating hardcore fanatics, it was what didn’t happen to protect Americans in a Muslim country on the anniversary of 9\11 after requests for protection.

hopeful on May 5, 2014 at 7:33 PM

I have a dead horse named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick it for a while? It may be easier on your continence than the poor minorities which are normally on the receiving end.

acetylene420 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Easier on our ‘continence?’ meaning it’s easier for us to shit on you over Benghazi? I agree.

Now then, put down the bong Mr. 420, because unlike in my case, it’s clearly affecting your reasoning (and even English) skills.

Last question, how much have of your weed money have you personally donated to the poor this year? That’s what I thought…

nullrouted on May 5, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Last question, how much have of your weed money have you personally donated to the poor this year? That’s what I thought…

nullrouted on May 5, 2014 at 7:34 PM

D’oh =)

nullrouted on May 5, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Christopher Stevens, our Ambassador to Libya was anally raped and dragged through the streets of Benghazi.

/Shhh… don’t tell the first gay President about that … It might just ruin his narrative.

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 7:23 PM

They had to kill Chris Stevens because instead of enjoying their
” treatment” , he started yelling at them .
/Hussein , the evolved president

burrata on May 5, 2014 at 7:48 PM

I have a dead horse named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick it for a while? It may be easier on your continence than the poor minorities which are normally on the receiving end.

acetylene420 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

This horse ain’t dead you embarrassing water carrier. I have not met you yet…go phuck yourself.

CW on May 5, 2014 at 7:49 PM

They had to kill Chris Stevens because instead of enjoying their
” treatment” , he started yelling at them .
/Hussein , the evolved president

burrata on May 5, 2014 at 7:48 PM

He was raped in his butt before he was dragged through the street to cheering crowds of Jihadi’s.

For 5-7 months he begged Hillary for more security. She musta been too pre occupied by Huma and Anthony’s Weiner.

/The Administration might not beleive that these documents exits, but they do. I’ve got a file drawer full of them, and I’m sure Sharyll Atkisson does as well.

When the truth comes out there will not be one gay supporter of Obama. And, when the Mexicans find out that Obama used US guns to kill their children with his Fast and Furious program?

Erhmeghered.

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Soooo… going back through history, wasn’t it Obama that insisted that Qhaddafi (or whateverthef*ck the spelling is) be deposed, disposed of?

Why yes. Yes it WAS Obama.

Get this frikken clown off the world stage. He’s failed at so many levels it has become an embarrassment. I mean, Urkel-like embarrassment. He is without support, without clout, without integrity, without truth.

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 8:02 PM

I’m sure Killery send in Sandy Burgler to clean up after her !

burrata on May 5, 2014 at 8:16 PM

I have a dead horse named “Benghazi”… You Cons wanna kick it for a while? It may be easier on your continence than the poor minorities which are normally on the receiving end.

acetylene420 on May 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Here is the difference between Americans and socialist, statist drones in a nutshell… as much as I despise Nancy Pelosi, if she were assraped and murdered under the Bush administration, I’d be demanding answers.

PointnClick on May 5, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Key West Reader on May 5, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Remember also that in October 2011, not quite a year before, Qaddafi was horrifically raped and tortured before he was killed by an angry mob. Why in the world did they send Stevens to that place, of all places, with so little protection?

ncinca on May 5, 2014 at 10:45 PM

What does it say about the shareholders of CBS that they are OK with the network news serving as an adjunct to the White House press secretary.

Nomas on May 6, 2014 at 6:35 AM

THIS is part of the bigger story that almost NO ONE is talking about…the part which ‘lil’ Doogie Houser’ admitted to when being enterviewed by Brett Baer on Fox News.

20 – TWENTY – U.S. Embassies were attacked throughout the Middle East on the anniversary of 9/11/01 in 2012. 4 of those Embassies were overrun and heavily damaged by Islamic Extrmists. This was an extremely well-coordinated Middle East-wide attack, one which the Obama administration, specifically Hillary Clinton’s State Department, FAILED to have prepared and protected on that historic day!

Another reported story, buried in the pages of the media that dared to report it, was how the day prior to the attack on the Egyptian Embassy – on 9/10/12 – the Marine detail in charge of protecting the U.S. Egyptian Embassy received an order NOT to carry live ammo on duty the next day.

Another report that followed this one told of how an Egyptian Rep stated that a rival terrorist organization to the Muslim Brotherhood came to the Brotherhood to inform them they would participate in the Middle East-wide attacks on the U.S. Embassy on 9/11/12. (The Muslim Brotherhood was in control of the govt, and goverments are supposed to be responsible in-part for the protection of Embassies in their country.) This group reportedly told the Brotherhood that if they were not allowed to participate and attack the Embassy they would spread the word that the Brotherhood was not ‘true to the cause’ and was now a U.S. puppet. According to the Egyptian Rep the Brotherhood then informed the administration of this and convinced them they HAD to let the attack go on but PROMISED (made the deal) that no Americans would be hurt. The deal was made, and – according to the Egyptian Rep – the U.S. ensured them deadly force would not be used against the ‘protestors’ who attacked the Egyptian Embassy on 9/11/12…thus the order NOT to carry live ammo on the anniversary of 9/11/01.

The proven / KNOWN fact, however, is that 20 U.S. Embassies were attacked on 9/11/12, 4 overrun, and 4 Americans killed in Benghazi – to include the 1st American Ambassador in over 30 years! This was not an accident that could not be prevented – this wa a ‘monumental F*-up’ by the Obama administration!

easyt65 on May 6, 2014 at 12:38 PM

It’s especially goofy to imagine the White House fretting about policy failures when their policy in Egypt to that point had been to support the Islamists’ “democratic” aspirations to power. Libya had led to a failed state, as it had in Iraq, and was being brought into question in regards to Obama’s constant waffling in Egypt.”

Recon5 on May 6, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Note to Sheryl Atkinson:
Just cause your paranoid don’t mean they ain’t out to get you!

Pole-Cat on May 6, 2014 at 7:15 PM