So what would the GOP do with the Senate if they got it?

posted at 5:31 pm on May 3, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

There are precious few sure bets in American politics, but if Nate Silver starts giving you a 60% chance at something you generally pay attention. And that’s the odds Nate is laying out for the GOP to retake the Senate. But for a group of people who seem so entirely hell bent for leather on getting this done, we don’t really know what they plan to do with it if they get it. Over at Outside the Beltway, Doug shares some predictions from Michael Tomasky, who is not particularly optimistic.

Let’s start with the bleak view. “If the Republicans win the Senate,” says Norman Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute, “the conclusion they’re going to draw is ‘obstruction works,’ and they’re going to double down on it. So they’ll be thinking, ‘Why go out of our way to do stuff and why compromise when in two years we can win it all?’”

Ornstein’s frequent collaborator, Thomas Mann of the Brookings Institution, thinks that while it should make sense that Republicans eyeing a 2016 White House win would want to have some accomplishments to point to, we shouldn’t bet on it. “The interests of the party in ’16 are clear, but whether that proves sufficient to produce something positive out of the Republicans in Congress is a big reach,” says Mann. “They almost have an incentive to keep the economy going at a more tepid rate.”

Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress, agrees. “A GOP Senate takeover would be terrible for Obama’s presidency,” Tanden says. “It would spell the end of any progress on any legislative action and with GOP control of both houses of Congress, Republicans would set up debates to help their presidential candidates in 2016. And of course, investigations of the administration would double.”

What about the senators themselves? New York’s Chuck Schumer predicts: “It would let loose six years of right-wing frustration. The potential for gridlock is enormous.”

Doug doesn’t have much more of a chipper outlook, but I have to wonder if some of these folks are relying a bit too heavily on recent history repeating itself. It’s easy to look at the current lay of the land and assume that with Barack Obama in office for the next two years, nothing much will change. But the ability to get bills out of committee in both chambers and send a finished piece of legislation to the President’s desk has a particular value all of its own. In the current configuration, Democrats can simply point to the divided nature of government as a reason for a lack of progress. But if Congress can begin shoveling finished legislation, approved by the elected representatives of the people, the picture changes.

It would be worth drafting up a number of bills and sending them to Barack Obama’s desk. If he simply vetoes them all, then he is the bottleneck for the next two years. And if he somehow manages to sign something in the spirit of bipartisanship? Bonus.

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Get rid of holder, to start with.

scookam on May 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

If all they do is stop this administration from stacking the courts with progressive left Hugo Chavez style ideologues, that will be enough to make it all worthwhile for me.

KW64 on May 3, 2014 at 9:42 PM

“A GOP Senate takeover would be terrible for Obama’s presidency,” Tanden says. “It would spell the end of any progress on any legislative action and with GOP control of both houses of Congress, Republicans would set up debates to help their presidential candidates in 2016. And of course, investigations of the administration would double.”

And this is bad because…?

bgoldman on May 3, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Sadly, I believe this Senate would find that having is not so great a thing as wanting.

Tard on May 3, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Jaibones on May 3, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Yeah….Dude! My HotAir has gone pretty mid-temp, still maybe slightly warm. Slightly. Mostly GOPe, room-temp.

Room temperature, as in Dead.

Who is John Galt on May 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Couple of years ago a poster called it ‘Tepid Air’.

slickwillie2001 on May 3, 2014 at 9:53 PM

The GOP would slow or kill nearly all Obama appointees to the federal bench. That alone is a huge benefit to the nation for generations to come.

matthew8787 on May 3, 2014 at 9:54 PM

where is qotd?

OmahaConservative on May 3, 2014 at 10:05 PM

where is qotd?

OmahaConservative on May 3, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Hi OC.

I think they’ve substituted the WHCD Open Thread (on the left) tonight …

ShainS on May 3, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Apologize and give it back?

notropis on May 3, 2014 at 10:15 PM

So what would the GOP do with the Senate if they got it?

Whine that they are powerless without the Presidency.

RJL on May 3, 2014 at 10:35 PM

The right wing Taliban would insist on trying to make Christianity a state religion, overturn gay marriage, and generally make themselves annoying. This would make sure we would lose 2016, and achieve no fiscal goals. The government would continue to grow, and the USA will cease to exist as a viable country.

Shambhala on May 3, 2014 at 8:00 PM

No one here is even talking about this except liberal Democrats Republicans (whoops I get you guys confused so often). Nearly everyone here is talking glumly about spending increases and amnesty, and a few are wishing for impeachment or legal proceedings against hated administration figures.

The only ones talking about social conservatism are liberal Republicans trying to cow fiscal conservatives into silence and going along with spending increases, tax increases, and amnesty.

Doomberg on May 3, 2014 at 10:50 PM

‘Why go out of our way to do stuff and why compromise when in two years we can win it all?’

I guarantee you the GOPe will be thinking the exact opposite, rather then forcing a lame duck president to compromise. They’ll be going out of their way to try to give him some centre-left achievements, that way WAPO will write nice editorials about them.

If they actually did double down on obstructionism, I’d respect them more.

MWC_RS on May 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I thought Doug Mataconis was supposed to be some sort of “libertarian” ? Wouldn’t he like the GOP to effectively put a stop to Obama’s agenda? Or is his “libertarianism” only about permitting baby killing and sodomy?

MWC_RS on May 3, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Oh pardon me, in this day and age it’s subsidizing baby killing and sodomy.

MWC_RS on May 3, 2014 at 11:27 PM

I honestly expect McConnell/Cornyn to blow it in two years by backing all manner of Centre-Left legislation at the behest of newly minted Speaker Cantor and President Obama. You know to be “bipartisan” and all.

This is sad because the Republicans most likely to get the shaft in 2016 are guys like Johnson and Toomey, and yes even Rubio, all of whom are solid on fiscal issues ( with Toomey and Rubio being week on guns and immigration respectively)

They’ll pay for Mitch’s mistakes ( or treachery depending on how you see it)

MWC_RS on May 3, 2014 at 11:31 PM

correction: weak, not week.

MWC_RS on May 3, 2014 at 11:31 PM

They should flood the system with investigations and repeals of executive orders.

Investigate Solyndra, GM, IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, ObamaCare, various perjuries, hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, imprisonment of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, etc.

John McCain will be the chairman of the Senate Investigations committee, so yeah, the Senate will be as ineffectual as usual. Issa is term limited and will be replaced by Chaffetz who is very capable but like Issa without an effective partner in the Senate he’ll make no headway.

MWC_RS on May 3, 2014 at 11:33 PM

So what would the GOP do with the Senate if they got it?

Sell it on ebay.

Oldnuke on May 3, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Oldnuke on May 3, 2014 at 11:37 PM

That’s better than my answer!

notropis on May 3, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Hmmm, what will the Republicans do if they get the Senate? You mean besides drive me insane? I shudder to think. But they will be more interesting the Harry and his endless Koch brother references.

Cindy Munford on May 3, 2014 at 11:55 PM

Gridlock is good.

Othniel on May 4, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Gridlock is good.

Othniel on May 4, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Chris Christie, is that you? :)

faraway on May 4, 2014 at 12:52 AM

faraway on May 4, 2014 at 12:52 AM


notropis on May 4, 2014 at 12:56 AM

Looks like Obama, maybe well looking for a way to take attention from his lies and coverup on Benghazi and IRS, is going to get a whole lot of people killed.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel bid during her visit to Washington Friday, April 2, to bridge the differences between Presidents Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin over Ukraine was overtaken by events on the ground. That morning, the US-backed interim government in Kiev launched its first serious offensive to retake the eastern Ukrainian cities captured by pro-Russian militias, starting with Slavyansk. In Odessa pro-Kiev gangs started a fire which left more than 40 militiamen dead {they likely set fires at one or more exits and blocked the others].

Moscow’s reaction Saturday came directly from Putin’s office. His spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: “Neither Russia, nor any other country, can any longer influence citizens of Ukraine’s southeast… It will be impossible now to talk them into laying down their weapons when their lives are threatened by radicals, nationalists and armed forces that obey criminal orders and murder their own people.”

It was also made clear that the May 25 election was off, as far as the Kremlin was concerned. Those comments followed the German chancellor’s failure to make any headway on Ukraine in her White House interview with Obama, say debkafile’s Moscow sources.

That the Merkel-Obama talks did not go well was evident in both their remarks.The chancellor started by saying “We have a few difficulties to overcome between security and protecting privacy.” She was not only referring to the simmering scandal following last year’s revelation that the US National Security Agency was eavesdropping on her private cell phone calls; she also had in mind another intelligence issue between the two governments: future collaboration between the US and German agencies in Ukraine.

President Obama answered her with a piece of friendly advice: Germans following the Ukraine story from Russia’s perspective should “stay focused on the facts and what’s happening on the ground,” he said, and keep in mind that “there just has not been the kind of honesty and credibility about the situation” [Pathological and serial liar Obama is the last one on earth who should be talking about honesty and credibility – Benghazi, Fast-and-Furious, IRS, NSA, EPA, BLM, “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period. No matter what”, etc., etc., etc., and on and on and on] from Russian President Vladimir Putin. Obama urged broader sanctions as the only way to make the Russian president see the light.

It was obvious that Obama and Merkel were far from being in accord on Ukraine and on how Putin should be handled. Neither Merkel nor the German BND spy agency subscribes to Obama’s unquestioning backing for the interim government in Kiev [and for war, destruction and death].

VorDaj on May 4, 2014 at 1:23 AM

Amen. Send him a bill repealing Obamacare each and every single day for two years until he signs it or he leaves office.

And the Democrats can’t filibuster it because it was passed as a “financial” bill in order for it to get past the Republican filibuster in 2010 after Scott Brown was elected as a Republican Senator from Massachusetts(!) solely to be the filibustering vote against the bill.

If it is a financial bill one way, then it is a financial bill the other way.

Theophile on May 4, 2014 at 5:14 AM

“Ukrainian government forces have advanced on several eastern towns amid heightened tension after the fatal clashes of recent days.

Latest reports say pro-Russian rebels attacked a Ukrainian military unit at Luhansk, wounding two soldiers.

Armed separatists have been reinforcing barricades in the town. The number of demonstrators is said to have increased dramatically.

Earlier, at Kramatorsk, the security service headquarters and TV tower were recaptured from rebels by the National Guard on Saturday.

Health authorities said at least six people were killed in fighting. Russian state media reported a higher number of casualties but there has been no independent confirmation.

The army are said to have destroyed pro-Russian rebel checkpoints as they focus on smaller towns where separatists have been in control of government buildings.

The larger town of Slovyansk remains surrounded, with residents said to be fearful of an all-out government assault.

Pro-Russian protesters in Donetsk stormed the state security headquarters and the regional governor’s business premises.

Demonstrators chanted “we won’t forget Odessa” following Friday’s fatal violence in the southern port city. At least 46 people were reported killed in clashes between pro-Kyiv and pro-Russian demonstrators.

The EU has called for an independent inquiry into the violence and for those responsible to be brought to justice.

Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has told his US counterpart John Kerry that the US should use its influence to make Ukraine’s government immediately stop military operations in south-east Ukraine, the Russian foreign ministry said in a statement on Saturday.

Lavrov also said that it was important that the mediating role of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) was increased to secure Kyiv’s fulfilment of the Geneva declaration on de-escalating tensions in Ukraine.

Washington again said Moscow should stop backing pro-Russian separatists. Kerry warned that Russia risked incurring further sanctions….”

workingclass artist on May 4, 2014 at 5:58 AM

Breaking: 11 Terrorists With Links To Al Qaeda Arrested, Questioned In Regard To Missing Malaysian Plane MH370

Members of a violent cell of al Qaeda-linked terrorists are being questioned in connection with the disappearance of Flight MH370, according to several British press reports.

International law enforcement agencies, including the FBI and Britain’s MI6, asked Malaysian authorities to conduct intense interrogations of the 11 militants, who range in age from 22 to 55 and include students, business professionals and a young widow, the Mail newspaper said.

They were all arrested in Malaysia last week.

An officer with the Counter Terrorism Division of Malaysia’s Special Branch said the arrests have increased concern that terrorists may have taken control of the plane.

“The possibility that the plane was diverted by militants is still high on the list,’’ the officer said.

“International investigators have asked for a comprehensive report on this new terror group.’’

The official revealed that the suspects admitted planning “sustained terror campaigns in Malaysia,’’ but insisted their group had nothing to do with the plane.

The Beijing-bound plane vanished two months ago with 239 people aboard.

A massive hunt for the aircraft, which is believed to have gone down in the Indian Ocean, has turned up no wreckage….”

workingclass artist on May 4, 2014 at 6:04 AM

“Ukraine’s PM has blamed the country’s security services for failing to stop violence in the southern city of Odessa that left more than 40 people dead.

Arseniy Yatsenyuk told the BBC there would be “full, comprehensive and independent investigation”.

Most of the victims were pro-Russian separatists who died in a fire after barricading themselves in a building.

The PM’s comments came as Ukrainian troops surrounded the pro-Russian stronghold of Sloviansk in the east.

“Nobody expected this’

Mr Yatsenyuk said of the Odessa violence: “I personally blame the security service and law enforcement office for doing nothing to stop this crackdown.”

Mr Yatsenyuk said: “These security forces are inefficient and they violated the law.

Asked about pro-Russian groups who have taken over many buildings in towns in the east, Mr Yatsenyuk said: “We haven’t entirely lost the control… much will depend on the local population, whether they support peace and security.”

Ukrainian troops have encircled Sloviansk as the government seeks to wrest control from the separatists.

The BBC’s Sarah Rainsford, in the regional capital Donetsk, says that while it appears the Ukrainian forces have sealed off the roads in and out of the town, they are moving around it and concentrating on smaller towns nearby…”

workingclass artist on May 4, 2014 at 6:39 AM

It would of course be best for the House and Senate to work on substantive bills which address major issues: healthcare, the economy and jobs. What people hate most about Washington, irrespective of party, is the lack of action on issues which most effect their lives.

That being said, Boehner and McConnell couldn’t find their own asses with both hands. They’ve shown no proclivity, skill or leadership to move Congress in a single direction on important issues. They are career politicians who are more focused on polls, demographics and electoral “inside baseball”. That’s not a recipe for getting things done. It’s a recipe for slowly moving the ball.

Overall, Congress in Republican hands will help slow the destruction down. But I suspect their tenure in the majority will not last long. Their focus is wrong, there is no cohesion and the potential to make material changes which most of the voters want is highly suspect.

What will Boehner’s next excuse be? “We only control 2/3rd’s of the government”.

Marcus Traianus on May 4, 2014 at 6:50 AM

What about the senators themselves? New York’s Chuck Schumer predicts: “It would let loose six years of right-wing frustration. The potential for gridlock is enormous.”

I would love to see maximum gridlock maybe with the exception of impeaching Obama and Holder.

cajunpatriot on May 4, 2014 at 6:59 AM

So what would the GOP do with the Senate if they got it?

Same thing they’ve always done: seek ways to expand the power of the Federal government that allows them to favor their donors and ensure that those donors must work them, the party in (limited) power, to get anything done in the private sector.

Exactly the same as the Democrats. The only difference is the bare-faced lies they tell to get elected.

M240H on May 4, 2014 at 7:01 AM

If the Republicans take over the senate, it’s business as usual.

Comprehensive amnesty passes Obama’s desk with support of McConnell and Boehners blessings, Common Core continues to brainwash and dumb down our kids at neck-braking speed, and we do not hesitate to support Obama, McCain, and Grahams support of Al-Qaeda taking power in Mideast to continue killing Christians.

Republicans should be treated like they are WORSE than Democrats and a new conservative/libertarian party should emerge.

seingram12 on May 4, 2014 at 7:01 AM

seingram12 on May 4, 2014 at 7:01 AM

Comprehensive amnesty passes Obama’s desk with support of McConnell and Boehners blessings…

Have you seriously already forgotten?

Jaibones on May 4, 2014 at 7:21 AM

Michael Tomasky was a JourNoLister.

Remember the JourNoList? A large group of Progressive and Marxist opinion makers who got together to plot how to elect Barack Obama and destroy Sarah Palin among other things.

“a contributor to The New York Review of Books.”
“Guardian America was launched with Tomasky as its editor.”
“He is the editor in chief of Democracy,”
“His work has also appeared in The New York Times Book Review, The Washington Post, Harper’s Weekly, The Nation, The Village Voice, The New York Review of Books, Dissent, Lingua Franca, George, and GQ”

Lot’s of Marxist and Progressive journals there.

Viator on May 4, 2014 at 7:49 AM

Republicans should be treated like they are WORSE than Democrats and a new conservative/libertarian party should emerge.

seingram12 on May 4, 2014 at 7:01 AM

No. It won’t.

Libertarians suffer from a failure of understanding of their fellow citizens. Americans aren’t libertarian on balance. Not even close.

What we need is not a libertarian third party. What we need is a populist, anti-elites third party. That’s the only way the party will be able to draw a significant number of Democrats.

The party will have to organize it around the central principle of opposing all of the things the elites love and have been cramming down our throats for the last 30 years.

That third party will likely want to do many things libertarians dislike, like raising taxes on the rich (especially closing loopholes on taxes on inheritance gifts), raising the real minimum wage back up to what it used to be, getting serious about enforcing our immigration laws, and negotiating more reasonable trade agreements using the threat of raising trade barriers against those trying to sell into the American market.

That’s if we’re serious, which I don’t think any of you really are, yet.

fadetogray on May 4, 2014 at 7:50 AM

Why they would point to the couple million of new gimme-addicts to Obamacare as proof that it can never, ever be repealed.

Because they said so.

And then they would want to make everything more ‘efficient’.

Democrats expand tyranny.

Republicans make it more efficient.

Its a two-fer for totalitarian government, a win-win against the American people by the Elites! And the two parties can keep on blaming each other and get away with it because, you know, partisanship! Party over Nation until there is no Nation left and tyranny is the only thing left to bring ‘order to society’.

Getting people at the table wanting to take away the redistributionist ethos and tell Americans that these ‘freebies’ will cost them everything no matter how rich or how poor you are… why that would be so… *sniff,sniff*… insensitive. That whole idea of self-reliance and accepting the repercussions of one’s actions are just so nasty. Instead why not let all the hardened criminals go free, get in a new permanent underclass and chase down those who think that they are born with all of their rights and only lend a few to government for the protection of the Nation as a State, not as individuals.

That is their goal: criminalize freedom and those who dare stand up against encroaching government. To-date the Republican Party has demonstrated its complicity in this for decades. I will trust individuals who prove themselves out. It is time for the entire two party system to go lock, stock and two smoking barrels.

ajacksonian on May 4, 2014 at 7:58 AM

A GOP Congress could defund some of the parasite federal agencies, there are 1300. The Department of Energy that has not done their job of getting us off foreign oil would be a terrific start and save us over 23 billion a year. Why do we need a department of education?

mixplix on May 4, 2014 at 9:05 AM

1. Not only ‘Impeach’ Eric Holder but also send him to jail for multiple felony counts of perjury and other crimes.

2. Send Lois Lerner to jail for her part in the IRS Targeting scandal. (Also, ‘fire’ every member of the IRS who have not paid their taxes.)

3. Put Kathleen Sebellius in jail for perjury and her other crimes (extorting money from companies she was over and using non-tax funds on govt programs, which is against the law)

4. ‘Impeach’ Harry Reid for his CRIME of stealing money and giving it to his daughter.

5. IMPEACH Obama for his record-setting number of violations of both Constitutional and law, for his continuous lying to Americans and his willful deceit, for the deaths of 4 Americans – to include the murder of the 1st U.S. Ambassador in over 30 years, for the participation in and cover-up of no less than 4 scandals, & for aiding and abetting terrorists and enemies of this nation.

easyt65 on May 4, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Same thing they did with the house. Let the Dems roll them so the media will somehow love them

Brock Robamney on May 4, 2014 at 9:35 AM

easyt65 on May 4, 2014 at 9:15 AM

None of that will ever ever ever happen. The Turtle is currently the leader in case you forgot

Brock Robamney on May 4, 2014 at 9:37 AM

The GOP would slow or kill nearly all Obama appointees to the federal bench. That alone is a huge benefit to the nation for generations to come.
matthew8787 on May 3, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Did we not forget the last time Republican were in charge from 2000 – 2006? Massive Goverment growth, overreaching government? So that means nothing will change. So how does that equate to slowing Obama appointees?

Brock Robamney on May 4, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Impeach Eric Holder? Demand answers on IRS, and impeach the president if they don’t come? Get to the bottom of Benghazi?

Wait, have we reached the hill to die on yet?

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 4, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Exactly what the dems want.

Dr. Frank Enstine on May 4, 2014 at 10:32 AM

Here are some plans for GOP-controlled Congress next year:

1. Investigate Benghazi and IRS scandals:
2. Pass legislation to scale back spending and to fix Obamacare;
3. Pass budget and tax reform (to simplify the tax code);
4. Sen. Sessions will lead the effort to pass piecemeal legislation on border control, E-verify, and switch our immigration system from family-based toward merit-based;
5. Asians may swing back this year to the GOP due to Democrats’ reckless spending and Affirmative Action.

Do you guys think these goals are simply unrealistic?

sohumm on May 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Do this: 1) Obamacare repeal with enough votes to override any veto. 2) Impeach the Marxist.

In that order.
This will make the Congress, both chambers, a Republican bastion until the first election of the 22nd century and will give this country a fighting chance of making it to that election.

Bubba Redneck on May 4, 2014 at 1:59 PM

I’ll tell you what they would do, ABSOLUTELY FRINKIN’ NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!! They would bend over and do whatever the democrats tell them to do just like they always have. When will you people learn that they are just as corrupt as the democrats. Until we get rid of the GOP leadership and the inside the beltway liberal RINO’s nothing will change. Cut off the head of the snake and then something can be done. Until then, it’s just a waste of time.

flytier on May 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM

The tea party and true conservatives should get together and start to plan, or we will have chaos with each one thinking they individually have the megaphone. After the 2010 election the media hijacked the news with anything else but, and then the gunning down of 8 people in Arizona, because of something Sarah Palin said/ I mean because of a lunatic. When it was finally time to GO on the budget there wasn’t any plan, Mrs. Bachman was doing one thing (defunding Obamacare and it didn’t work) and my own dear Gov. Pense, tried to defund Planned Parenthood of $300 million and spoiled the deal for more cuts. They have to get together, no pet attachments, and they have to ram the most important things onto Obama’s desk without doing things they can’t do except constitutionally (read Mark Levin’s book,) and make true coordinated progress. Meanwhile the media will tell in the pages everyday that this republican is stabbing that republican in the back. Steel yourselves, Be Ready.

Fleuries on May 4, 2014 at 6:43 PM

“They almost have an incentive to keep the economy going at a more tepid rate.”

You mean like how the Democrats triggered the financial institution bust by causing Indy Mac to fail? It was Chuck Schumer, by the way, who leaked a letter from the FDIC about Indy Mac’s health, to drive down the price of its shares so some buddies of his could scoop it up on the cheap. They drove it down all right, and that was the shock that opened a chink in the armor of the whole industry.

Chuck Schumer should have gotten a long all-meals-included vacation at Club Fed.

The Dems also ruined Fanny and Freddie by using them as rest homes for dozens of Dems who needed jobs without too much work, like the execrable Jaime Gorelek, queen of disaster.

Ray Van Dune on May 4, 2014 at 6:59 PM

What will they do with the senate? Simple…. the party of stupid will lose it back in 2016.

ultracon on May 4, 2014 at 10:08 PM

What will they do with the senate? Simple…. the party of stupid will lose it back in 2016.

Nobody knows what could happen from now to 2016. We do what we can, and never give up easily.

sohumm on May 5, 2014 at 1:02 AM

Impeach, Convict, and remove.

WyattsTorch on May 5, 2014 at 11:33 AM

They willl enact and pass whatever the Dems and Obama want them to do because they are so desperate for the lunatic left media to write something nice about them

Caseoftheblues on May 5, 2014 at 1:03 PM