Open thread: Ruling class gathers at White House Correspondents Dinner to toast itself

posted at 7:01 pm on May 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

Here’s your thread for hate-watching. C-SPAN’s live coverage of the, gulp, red carpet began at 6 p.m. ET and will continue with the dinner itself starting at 8. (There were Beltway pre-parties last night too but C-SPAN doesn’t cover those. Yet.) Obama and tonight’s keynoter, Joel McHale of “Community” and “Talk Soup,” will speak after 9 p.m. There may or may not be some sort of jokey video too, a la last year’s send-up of “House of Cards,” although this year’s organizer seems to be wary of making things too festive. And of course, there’s bound to be at least one joke in the main event that everyone finds tasteless, a la O chortling a few years ago about sending drones after the Jonas Brothers if they don’t stay away from his daughters. Odds are good that tonight’s will involve Benghazi.

I’ll spare you my annual rant and give you two quotes to meditate on instead. First, let’s meet the people who govern you and their media “watchdogs.”

According to the source, “there are way too many [A-list celebrities] who have had pretty weird experiences at the dinner. A lot of the people who have gone say they’ll never do it again. The room is so crowded. It’s uncontrolled. There’s no limit to the number of people trying to get photos and autographs — and there’s no way to hide from it. It’s like the stars are animals in a cage. People go crazy when they see them. They act like a bunch of kids at the Kids’ Choice Awards.”

Publicists tell their clients that it’s OK to attend the dinner — especially if they want publicity for a project — but that they should be wary. This is a crowd that gropes and grabs. A few years ago, one drunken guest actually bared her breasts to Ben Affleck as he was walking to the men’s restroom. (That was the last time he attended the dinner.) And it’s not just the megastars who get the unwanted attention, which often comes from the correspondents’ dates.

“They’re infatuated with anyone who is sort of famous,” according to one previous attendee. “People on reality TV shows are walking around like they’re the secretary of state — and they’re actually getting their pictures taken with the real secretary.”

Second, thoughts from the editors of The Federalist on the “nerds” at “nerd prom” who definitely don’t want you to think they consider themselves elite, even though they palpably are and do:

There is a certain appeal to “Nerd Prom” as a name: it’s short, it has basic meter, it seems harmless, it’s easier to say than “Dinner with People Who Sleep and Socialize Together At All Hours And Then Pretend to Cover One Another Objectively,” less alarming than “The Ruling Class And Its Propagandists,” and certainly less gauche than “Thronesniffers Unite!” It fits into Twitter (the Official Social Network™ of “Nerd Prom”) in a compact, hashtaggy fashion in ways that “Careerist Forced Bonhomie” or “Abandoning My Middle-American Values” does not. These cats know how to live by the promise of hashtag…

“Nerd Prom” is the cultural appropriation of the experience of the powerless by the powerful, not unlike Miley Cyrus’s appropriation of urban African-American culture, but without her sense of propriety, dignity, respect, humility, and restraint. And by God, they’re going to ride that wrecking ball you paid for through every traditional American institution they can find.

You can watch on C-SPAN if you’re in front of a TV or, if not, on C-SPAN.org’s livestream. While we wait for O, here’s “This Town” author Mark Leibovich shaking his head at the epitome of “This Town” clubbiness.


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Derby doesn’t get an open thread, but this does?

Meh. Don’t even have enough interest to gripe this year. I’ll be watching Achievement Hunter Let’s Plays on Youtube.

Gingotts on May 3, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Domestic Enemies of America, Unite!!!

ShainS on May 3, 2014 at 7:10 PM

I won’t go to their movies, won’t watch them on C-SPAN.

31giddyup on May 3, 2014 at 7:11 PM

The true meaning of Anthropogenic Global Warming; an elitist cluster-*

Nasty sulfur emanating from that room.

Chuck Ef on May 3, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Moe Lane @moelane
Two events today: one where the elites shows off their once-free, but now fully-broken and saddled pets.

The other is the Kentucky Derby.

Flora Duh on May 3, 2014 at 7:16 PM

A collection of one percenters who demoninze one percenters while living one percentery.

ThePrez on May 3, 2014 at 7:16 PM

This is a crowd that gropes and grabs. A few years ago, one drunken guest actually bared her breasts to Ben Affleck as he was walking to the men’s restroom. (That was the last time he attended the dinner.)

Such an elegant affair and tasteful group of people.

thatsafactjack on May 3, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Ben Affleck banned from playing blackjack at Las Vegas Casino

Caught counting cards.

thatsafactjack on May 3, 2014 at 7:25 PM

So a bunch of jokes will be told to a room full of jokes. Painful jokes but jokes, nonetheless. I wonder what our bill will be for this extravaganza?

ghostwalker1 on May 3, 2014 at 7:25 PM

I’d sooner meet Mike Rowe and have a talk with him, along with a bit of his and my favorite libation. It would be far more of an interesting time. And, I’m sure I would come away glad that I had the opportunity to be with a good and true American.

VALman on May 3, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Our group of elites is badly in need of a forest fire to clear out the dead weight.

DFCtomm on May 3, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Will ambassador Stevens be attending…..

Electrongod on May 3, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Ben Affleck, former guest at the annual White House soire, was barred from playing a certain card game ( which involves adding cards to a total of 21) at the Hard Rock in Vegas. Security allegedly caught him counting cards.

thatsafactjack on May 3, 2014 at 7:31 PM

…hope they get food poisoning…and sit on the porcelain all night!

KOOLAID2 on May 3, 2014 at 7:31 PM

I’d post the link to the Affleck barring incident, but the link won’t post due to the content. The article ran today.

thatsafactjack on May 3, 2014 at 7:33 PM

A few years ago, one drunken guest actually bared her breasts to Ben Affleck as he was walking to the men’s restroom.

::shudder::

I’ll be passing and watching Big Bang Theory re-runs along with the hockey game.

gophergirl on May 3, 2014 at 7:35 PM

We gonna get another awful bit where Obama is taking a leak? Because, you know, that was the most presidential thing I ever saw.

NotCoach on May 3, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Pardon my lack of sophistication and knowledge about this incestuous group, but who is Tammy Haddad, sponsor of the pre-celebratory brunch?

The attendees do not appear to be too fashionably dressed for the occasion. In fact, some seem downright tacky.

There is way too much concentrated wealth in the D.C. area. What a bonfire of the vanities.

onlineanalyst on May 3, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Ben Affleck, former guest at the annual White House soire, was barred from playing a certain card game ( which involves adding cards to a total of 21) at the Hard Rock in Vegas. Security allegedly caught him counting cards.

thatsafactjack on May 3, 2014 at 7:31 PM

That right there’s a Dog Whistle if I ever heard one!!!

/Chrissy Tingles

ShainS on May 3, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Pardon my lack of sophistication and knowledge about this incestuous group, but who is Tammy Haddad, sponsor of the pre-celebratory brunch?

onlineanalyst on May 3, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Proud to say I’m as unsophisticated about these things as you are. This came up in a Bing search:

The Dirty Politics Behind Tammy Haddad’s White House Correspondents’ Brunch

An excerpt:

“I dropped out of the whole thing when Obama got elected and I began to despise the whole Politico-MSNBC nexus,” said a guest who has attended Tammy’s soirée over the years. “Too ass kissy for me. And the sucking up to Axelrod’s wife? Made me want to puke. I honestly can’t even stand being around it, especially when I think of all the people I genuinely like who I never get to see because I have no time. And I’m hanging out with tools instead? No way.”

ShainS on May 3, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Flora Duh on May 3, 2014 at 7:16 PM

It’s nice to see you Flora.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Ruling class gathers at White House Correspondents Dinner to toast itself

Burn baby, burn.

Marxism is for dummies on May 3, 2014 at 7:47 PM

The really FUNNY thing is that if every one of those people died tonight, the world would little note or longer remember who they were.

They, on the other hand, think the world revolves around them and couldn’t get along without them.

GarandFan on May 3, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Ruling class gathers at White House Correspondents Dinner to toast itself

Looking for someone to hate? Hate this.

Jaibones on May 3, 2014 at 7:49 PM

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Thank you, same to you.

Flora Duh on May 3, 2014 at 7:50 PM

This is a crowd that gropes and grabs. A few years ago, one drunken guest actually bared her breasts to Ben Affleck as he was walking to the men’s restroom. (That was the last time he attended the dinner.)

But did they let Barbara Mikulski come back?

Gingotts on May 3, 2014 at 7:50 PM

A collection of one percenters who demoninze one percenters while living one percentery.

ThePrez on May 3, 2014 at 7:16 PM

.

Our group of elites is badly in need of a forest fire to clear out the dead weight.

DFCtomm on May 3, 2014 at 7:30 PM

.
Dittos.

listens2glenn on May 3, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Waste my time watching “Hollywood for Ugly People?”
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BWAaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….
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No.

ExpressoBold on May 3, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Inglorious Basterds Theater scene pl0x.

Murphy9 on May 3, 2014 at 7:59 PM

The really FUNNY thing is that if every one of those people died tonight, the world would little note or longer remember who they were.

They, on the other hand, think the world revolves around them and couldn’t get along without them.
GarandFan
on May 3, 2014 at 7:48 PM

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I would have included that with my 7:56 PM comment, if I would have seen it.
.
Dead-nuts right on.

listens2glenn on May 3, 2014 at 7:59 PM

It’s just a silly thing. Every industry has a get-together thing once a year.

A very telling thing to look for later when MO hands out whatever they hand out to college students. When they say the name of the person, they will say the name of their favorite media person or however they put it.

Watch how many of them say Jon Stewart.

Moesart on May 3, 2014 at 8:03 PM

But did they let Barbara Mikulski come back?

Gingotts on May 3, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Aw duuuuude!!

bernzright777 on May 3, 2014 at 8:03 PM

My primary vote will go to the candidate who promises to turn this event into hot ramen night with all you can drink grape juice.

crrr6 on May 3, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Evening All. I’m guessing this is our QOTD for the evening?

Cspan just said O arrived.

What a bunch of peacocks. Cspan loves Eric Holder and Patrick Leahy. Every time I’ve passed the TV that is who they are showing.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM

They, on the other hand, think the world revolves around them and couldn’t get along without them.

GarandFan on May 3, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Actually, I disagree. Hollyweirdos seem to know all too well how meaningless their lives are and how overblown their “work” is, and it seems to be the fuel that fires their need for attention.

Not to get all psycho or anything.

Jaibones on May 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Most interesting “star” (ahem) I see is David McCullough….The Man From Uncle….lol

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Most interesting “star” (ahem) I see is David McCullough….The Man From Uncle….lol

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:12 PM

I think that is David McCallum. Hearth throb of the early ’60′s.

esr1951 on May 3, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Most interesting “star” (ahem) I see is David McCullough….The Man From Uncle….lol

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:12 PM

McCallum or something like that?

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Oh goodness….daiz is filling up. LOL the guy from The Soup Ugh.

I hope they start this thing soon. I’m already bored.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Hi COL

Hi Florah Duh. Hope you are feeling better. Good to see you

(Waving)

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Who is the guy in the red band uniform?

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM

McCallum

Thank you :)

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Sorry, I didn’t realize there were a lot of them in red uniforms.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Who is the guy in the red band uniform?

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM

I’m not watching, but I’ll take a guess: The Mooche?

ShainS on May 3, 2014 at 8:19 PM

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Isn’t that the Marine Military Band for the “colors.”

MOBO has a puss on her.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:21 PM

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM

[waving!! jumping up and down!!]
Evenin’, CL and everybody!!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Hey (waving back at you). We had a big boomer line run through here earlier. Hope you are feeling ok.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

David McCullough/McCallum is currently on NCIS as the coroner…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

I’m feeling MUCH better, but Mom’s laid low by a migraine–we have the market cornered in Excedrin here :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

thanks Newtie. There are so few of them I recognize :) As I haven’t watched network shows in years.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:27 PM

MOBO has a puss on her.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:21 PM

I so hope that zero doesn’t try flirting with anything/anyone close by–unless it’s Moochelle, but zero better have all his shots current…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:26 PM

glad to hear you are feeling better but my sympathy to your Mom.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Any word yet on OC?

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Thank you, CL! I’ll pass your best on to her!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

The party can begin Mrs. Obysmal has arrived in her wedding gown, and her escort is looking more smug than ever. The dweeb who cannot handle press conferences is smiling on the dais. All is well.

onlineanalyst on May 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM

what happened to OC?

++++++++++++

sorry for the strike out. I don’t know what is up with my fingers.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:30 PM

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:30 PM

He got a flat tire yesterday and the lug wrench objected…it did a number on one hand.

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:31 PM

onlineanalyst on May 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

isn’t that the truth!

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:31 PM

goodness. Did he break his hand? I hope not.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:32 PM

OC was going to the Emergency Room Urgent Care this morning, much to the delight of all concerned.

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:32 PM

I’m feeling MUCH better, but Mom’s laid low by a migraine–we have the market cornered in Excedrin here :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Where are all the guys. It looks like it’s just us girls.

Omaha may have broken his hand. The last I heard he was going to urgent care this morning. Honest Lib was on this am.

Migraines are nasty things. I hope she feels better and glad you are.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:32 PM

He described his hand as looking like an explosion in a Mexican paint factory (dark colour section), so it’s anybody’s call whether it was sprained, bruised or broken.

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:34 PM

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Thank you, COL, and Mom thanks you! Are you feeling better? I heard that you were also feeling a bit under the weather.

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM

It’s still early COL. Dang then he really need a number to himself. Saw HL last night before I signed off. Happy to see him but talk about water problems and being sore huh.

Migraines are COL.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Watching this is truly gag worthy, and it hasn’t even started yet!
Back to Big Bang..

bernzright777 on May 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Thank you, COL, and Mom thanks you! Are you feeling better? I heard that you were also feeling a bit under the weather.

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I’m not having a good day today but that happens. I just didn’t feel good in general and got absolutely nothing done. I feel guilty when that happens.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Yikes. Hope the darned thing didn’t collapse on him. Sounds like he’s going to be typing with one hand.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

bernzright777 on May 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Do stay for the company and the tunes! Best part: You can still watch Big Bang… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

These people just seem to be milling about. Is that all they do? Never had enough masochism in me to watch this. I plan to watch Judge Jeanine at 9.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:39 PM

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Even God took a day off, COL. I’m sure you got some cooking and dishes done, so that’s something ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:40 PM

A gaggle of chuckleheads.

SparkPlug on May 3, 2014 at 8:40 PM

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

So sorry to read that COL, but try not to beat yourself up about not getting stuff done. Sometimes you just have to give yourself permission to have an unproductive day and just relish the quiet time instead.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:39 PM

The *ahem!* festivities haven’t started yet, but C-Span will be airing the impotent parts later on. Feel free to watch “Judge Jeanine,” by all means!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Don’t they say a grace at these dinner soirees? Or is that too middle-brow?

Holder was floating around pre-dinner, looking as if he hadn’t a care in the world.

onlineanalyst on May 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM

“C-SPAN’s live coverage of the, gulp, red carpet began at 6 p.m. ET and will continue with the dinner itself starting at 8.”

Johnson County Wars is on REELZ. Think I’ll opt for that instead.

predator on May 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM

SparkPlug on May 3, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Understatement!!!

(waving at ya Spark)

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:42 PM

SparkPlug on May 3, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Sparkie!! Love the twizzler propeller and the tinsel adds a nice, festive touch… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:42 PM

onlineanalyst on May 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM

I noticed that too. Every time I walked past the TV set it was either Holder or Leahy.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:43 PM

predator on May 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Hiya (waving) Hope your mending is progressing along nicely.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Yikes. Hope the darned thing didn’t collapse on him. Sounds like he’s going to be typing with one hand.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

No collapse, CL–just the lug wrench wanted to zig when OC wanted it to zag. Maybe he should’ve used a foot to manoever the lug wrench…works for me!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM

I’m not having a good day today but that happens. I just didn’t feel good in general and got absolutely nothing done. I feel guilty when that happens.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I have those days. I just consider it to be the ol’ bod telling me, “Hey, I need a break.”

So I give it one. Getting nothing done may have been good for you.

predator on May 3, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM

still ouch. The last time I had to try it, I stood on the damn thing and couldn’t get the lug nut to move. I hope he’s ok. Darned stupid things….

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Tomorrow is another day and this one isn’t over yet.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:47 PM

May they all choke on each other.

Texyank on May 3, 2014 at 8:47 PM

This, tonight, seems incredibly apt and timely: AWOL Commander-in-Chief

Read it all, and wonder, like the rest of us, where Obama was at 3 AM on the night of September 11, 2012 and why we’ve yet to have an accurate accounting of his time and location the night Ty Woods and Glen Doherty were fighting for seven hours on the roof of the CIA compound building protecting the lives of over 30 Americans with their own lives, Americans they’d saved when Ambassador Chris Stevens and Sean Smith were killed by al- Quaeda terrorists. Ty Woods and Glen Doherty radioed for help repeatedly over the course of those hellish hours. There was no answer. Ty Woods and Glen Doherty, responded to the imminent threat to their countrymen, and were waiting for air support that would never come. Ty Woods and Glen Doherty gave their lives defending their countrymen. Where was their Commander-in-Chief?

Where is he now?

thatsafactjack on May 3, 2014 at 8:47 PM

predator on May 3, 2014 at 8:45 PM

yep and it’s always waiting for you! :)

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Hiya (waving) Hope your mending is progressing along nicely.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Hi, CL. *waves back*

Mending nicely; moving nearly pain-free. YAY!

Thanks for “axing.”

*hugs*

predator on May 3, 2014 at 8:48 PM

still ouch. The last time I had to try it, I stood on the damn thing and couldn’t get the lug nut to move. I hope he’s ok. Darned stupid things….

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:46 PM

It’s almost impossible to move them when they tighten them at the garage with a machine.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:48 PM

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Lucky you…I have to bounce on the dang thing to get it to move… >:-(

One Good Thing: Now Oldest Dear Son knows that trick, and I gave credit where credit was due–I learned it from a 17-year-old when I got a flat tire in the school parking lot when I went to pick up D & DD one day… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:48 PM

thatsafactjack on May 3, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Hi (waving)

Read it, excellent article.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Good for you Preditor.

crankyoldlady on May 3, 2014 at 8:49 PM

yep and it’s always waiting for you! :)

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:48 PM

It’s part of my “Laziness for Health” promotion. Surely a book deal is pending, no?

predator on May 3, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Hi Newtie and CL.

Come on over. Dunking doughnuts coffee and chit chat and show puppets will keep us in good stead.

Plus twizzler licorice.

SparkPlug on May 3, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Texyank on May 3, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I’ll take a rain check on the orgy later, thank you! I have to check the toenail fungi anyway…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:50 PM

SparkPlug on May 3, 2014 at 8:50 PM

:) a man after me own heart!!!

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:52 PM

SparkPlug on May 3, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Some dweeb on Cspan chat asked why the Duck Dynasty guy was there.

CoffeeLover on May 3, 2014 at 8:53 PM

SparkPlug on May 3, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Vanilla and Chocolate Kreme Donuts?

Newtie and the Beauty on May 3, 2014 at 8:53 PM

thatsafactjack on May 3, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Oh my. Benghazi Gate is a cover up. Impeachable offense. Obama lied, people died. 911 happened on his watch.

No one died because of Watergate.

SparkPlug on May 3, 2014 at 8:53 PM

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