Conyers to miss primary ballot?

posted at 11:31 am on May 3, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

John Conyers (D-Michigan) has been in the House of Representatives for approximately half a century now. (No… that’s not an exaggeration.) In all that time, you’d think that his team would have this whole election thing pretty much down pat, eh? Well… politics is hard.

Veteran U.S. Congressman John Conyers does not have enough signatures to get on the Aug. 5 primary ballot, according to Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett.

Garrett told Local 4 on Friday that the signatures of two of Conyers’ circulators appear to be invalid.

However, she said this is not the final decision on the issue. That will come by May 7, following an investigation into a formal challenge of Conyers’ signatures.

If he doesn’t get on the ballot, Conyers will have to run as a write-in candidate for his 26th term. The 84-year-old Detroit Democrat is coming up on 50 years in the U.S. House of Representatives.

For those of you who have worked – either as staff or volunteering – on any campaigns, you’ll know that the signature collection process is one of the tricky aspects of getting on the ballot every time an election comes around. If you have a good party structure in your area with experienced staff, this generally isn’t much of an issue. But for newcomers it can turn into a nightmare pretty quickly. The rules vary by state and you generally not only need to collect valid signatures, but have valid people doing the collecting. We had a Tea Party newcomer out here last cycle who paid two workers to collect, giving them one dollar per signature turned in. It so happens that this is illegal and it pretty much ended his candidacy.

After 50 years, though, it’s all the more strange that Conyers’ team dropped the ball on this one. What apparently caught them up was the fact that two of their collectors were not registered voters – yet another requirement to keep track of. But none of this means that Conyers is on the way out. We’ve seen cases before where a friendly judge can turn these rules into something closer to guidelines and let a sitting office holder slide. And even if they don’t, Conyers can still do a write-in campaign. That’s usually a long shot in American politics, but given how long the congressman has been a fixture in that area, he could probably pull it off.


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Law is meaningless when it’s against democrats. All it will take is a trip to a friendly democrat judge and, who knows, the judge may even rule that allowing anyone to vote against him would be RAAAAACIST!!!! so he’s deemed re-elected for another 50 years.

ConstantineXI on May 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

“what difference does it make”

he’ll get some judge to declare it’s racist of MI to require this and be on the ballot. worst case scenario he’ll run as an “independent” and win 80% of the vote.

he’s done such a good job as evidenced by the economic vitality of Detroit and MI in general.

acyl72 on May 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Keeping him off the ballot is wrong based on any proper interpretation of the Good and Welfare Clause.

Mark1971 on May 3, 2014 at 11:37 AM

If he doesn’t get on the ballot, Conyers will have to run as a write-in

Now THAT would be fun to watch!

BallisticBob on May 3, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Keeping him off the ballot is wrong based on any proper interpretation of the Good and Welfare Clause.

Mark1971 on May 3, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Nicely played, sir. ;-)

SoRight on May 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Those are just racist rules to keep a grass-roots, minority candidate like Conyers down. Next, they’ll expect signature-gatherers to have a photo ID.

tdarrington on May 3, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Fifty years on the public teat and he’s 84.

Cool.

Bishop on May 3, 2014 at 11:46 AM

I am so disappointed

dmacleo on May 3, 2014 at 11:51 AM

OK, he runs as a write in. Does the Democrat Party run an official party candidate against him? Wouldn’t that be racist? I’m not worried about considering the effect of any possible Republican candidate, because; well this is Detroit.

Subotai Bahadur on May 3, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Is his wife out of the slammer yet?

butch on May 3, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Eighty four.

BKeyser on May 3, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Half a century….

bazil9 on May 3, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Right in.

opunmind on May 3, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Judges’ ruling:

‘Incumbency provides for automatic inclusion on the ballot unless an express statement from the candidate removing the name is on file’

BobMbx on May 3, 2014 at 12:03 PM

If he doesn’t get on the ballot, Conyers will have to run as a write-in

Now THAT would be fun to watch!

BallisticBob on May 3, 2014 at 11:40 AM

This is Michigan we are talking about here. If Conyers has to run as a write-in, there will be UAW thugs outside every polling place handing out pre-filled “write in” ballots with a NBP “security guard” in full uniform with spiked club DARING anyone NOT to take it!

Blatantly illegal of course, but we are in the age of Social(ist) Justice.

ConstantineXI on May 3, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Judges’ ruling:

‘Incumbency provides for automatic inclusion on the ballot unless an express statement from the candidate removing the name is on file’

BobMbx on May 3, 2014 at 12:03 PM

It will probably be something like that. Hell, they may go even further and rule that “incumbency provides for AUTOMATIC SELECTION on the ballot unless expressly de-selected”.

ConstantineXI on May 3, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Conyers can still do a write-in campaign. That’s usually a long shot in American politics, but given how long the congressman has been a fixture in that area, he could probably pull it off.

Question is, could his constituents? I mean, can they write?

de rigueur on May 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Question is, could his constituents? I mean, can they write?

de rigueur on May 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM

LOL!

bazil9 on May 3, 2014 at 12:09 PM

What would be hi-lar-i-ous is if the Detroiters are so conditioned to voting straight-ticket D that Conyers loses anyway.

Sekhmet on May 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Bob Torrecelli says hello.

njrob on May 3, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Question is, could his constituents? I mean, can they write?

de rigueur on May 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM

They won’t need to write. There will be “helpful” UAW and NBP “assistants” at the polls to “help” them. One swing of the spiked club at a time.

ConstantineXI on May 3, 2014 at 12:14 PM

His staff just needs to forge Mickey Mouses signature enough times. The Courts will accept it.

wolly4321 on May 3, 2014 at 12:18 PM

The ballot boxes are already pre-stuffed.

Why bother with all the rigmarole when the fix is in?

ajacksonian on May 3, 2014 at 12:24 PM

OT- this got missed yesterday,

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/05/cantor_calls_for_special_prosecutor_for_lerner_irs_scandal.html.

Not that it matters. Holder will not appoint a Special Prosecuter, and Cantor is a crapweasel.

Straight up party line vote I would imagine, so it will pass.

Then what? D!ckhead is already in contempt.

wolly4321 on May 3, 2014 at 12:27 PM

The ballot boxes are already pre-stuffed.

Why bother with all the rigmarole when the fix is in?

ajacksonian on May 3, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Why are the parking lots at the polling places already filled with Chevy Dolts bearing the DNC logo?

:)

Answer: it’s all in the trunks!

ConstantineXI on May 3, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Racists, rules are just for whitey.

Plus: Obama hates American preeminence. He hates a system where consumers can shop for health insurance and have real choices. He hates economic growth. He hates energy production. He hates the private sector and middle-class prosperity, while he lives like a 1%r, deriding you, while partying with 1%rs.

He wants to leave America poorer, job growth stagnant, you more dependent, and the economy gasping for air. That will be his enduring legacy to the US’ national decline. America’s failure is Obama’s success.

Stupid, inept, incompetent, hapless? The president and his supporters hope you’ll keep right on underestimating him. The media are consuming his chit, still believing it to be Beluga caviar. I hope they all choke from it.

The Conyerses thank you.

Schadenfreude on May 3, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Jeeze.

ladyingray on May 3, 2014 at 12:51 PM

CBC Rules: “Wut?”

Jaibones on May 3, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Racists, rules are just for whitey.

Plus: Obama hates American preeminence. He hates a system where consumers can shop for health insurance and have real choices. He hates economic growth. He hates energy production. He hates the private sector and middle-class prosperity, while he lives like a 1%r, deriding you, while partying with 1%rs.

He wants to leave America poorer, job growth stagnant, you more dependent, and the economy gasping for air. That will be his enduring legacy to the US’ national decline. America’s failure is Obama’s success.

Stupid, inept, incompetent, hapless? The president and his supporters hope you’ll keep right on underestimating him. The media are consuming his chit, still believing it to be Beluga caviar. I hope they all choke from it.

The Conyerses thank you.

Schadenfreude on May 3, 2014 at 12:45 PM

If we can get the man out of office in 2017 without having to destroy the country with a Revolutionary War and we get new leaders who will let the markets work and the People live in Freedom our economy will come roaring back like you’ve never seen, and Obama will become even more bitter than that scowling wife of his.

ConstantineXI on May 3, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Is his wife out of the slammer yet?

butch on May 3, 2014 at 11:54 AM

…yes!…(Monica collected 12 signatures on her petition sheet)…there were four petition collectors The Detroit News found who were not registered prior to the April 22 filing deadline but two were recently backdated… and the two mentioned yesterday?………..dude!…………..that was yesterday!….give it a couple of days!

KOOLAID2 on May 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

He’s a Dem, they’ll let him slide on the rules.

Midas on May 3, 2014 at 1:03 PM

e can get the man out of office in 2017 without having to destroy the country with a Revolutionary War and we get new leaders who will let the markets work and the People live in Freedom our economy will come roaring back like you’ve never seen, and Obama will become even more bitter than that scowling wife of his. ConstantineXI on May 3, 2014 at 12:59 PM

We have a infrastructure of prog filled alphabet agencies and prog Courts.

Unless those elected leaders are willing to dismantle that, AND the welfare society,, ?

It’s much larger than just that.

And the union prog indoctrination/public schools?

No,, no matter what happens we have a rough ride.

wolly4321 on May 3, 2014 at 1:11 PM

I remember trying to get signatures.
It is an educational process which I recommend every do at least once.
If you think you know your community, you will know it better afterward.

J_Crater on May 3, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Trouble with a write-in ballot in Detroit is that considering the education level of his constituency, it would take an Egyptologist to decipher the myriad spellings. I vote for,”Jon Conyou”.

vnvet on May 3, 2014 at 1:13 PM

His wife got into a fist-fight with another woman at a bar – not over Conyers……..

williamg on May 3, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Thanks to Obama the law and the concept of equal protection under the law have become meaningless. This is a connected powerful democrat so I expect a loophole to be found for him to slither through. Now if this was a Tea Party member then the letter of the law being followed would be expected.

Hera on May 3, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Conyers can still do a write-in campaign. That’s usually a long shot in American politics, but given how long the congressman has been a fixture in that area, he could probably pull it off.

Question is, could his constituents? I mean, can they write?

de rigueur on May 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Or read. As long as it’s not cursive.

TinFin on May 3, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Write-in ballots?
Should be interesting considering that perhaps 75% of his voters are illiterate. (I was tempted to misspell that last word ;-)

Missilengr on May 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM

you cant get any more LIV than his district of Detroit..
after 50 years he has destroyed every building and block..
half his citizens have left the city..
the Debt unserviceable..
the blight everywhere..
the schools.. the worst..
crime rate… staggering..
city council.. corrupt to the core..
police and fire.. completely union controlled..
drugs.. Detroit has the largest addiction rate of Herion in the Nation..
30 some percent of all pregnancies ..aborted..
70% of those lucky enough to be born.. raised without a father..
libraries closed
parks closed
homes abandoned..
more than half the street lights don’t work there..
the average response time from a 911 call… 58 minutes.. in Detroit.!!!
clearly the LIV in this district do not want any change..
they have chosen that they want no more out of life for themselves..
want no more for their childrens lives..
willing to live on what the government will “give them”..
beating Conyers should be simple…
the man and his crooked wife should have been gone long ago..
cept for the LIV factor…
LIV’s will carry the day.. and Mr Conyers will be back in DC..

going2mars on May 3, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Judges’ ruling:

‘Incumbency provides for automatic inclusion on the ballot unless an express statement from the candidate removing the name is on file’

BobMbx on May 3, 2014 at 12:03 PM

While I’m sure you meant it sarcastically it actually makes perfect sense. The point of a signature limit is to prevent the primary getting crowded with a million people who have no chance of winning. Obviously an incumbent is someone who has a chance of winning by virtue of the fact that they, you know, already won. In Conyer’s case he’s won something like 25 times in a row.

Tlaloc on May 3, 2014 at 1:39 PM

I hope Thaddeus McCotter does everything under his control to make sure Conyers doesn’t get a pass on this one.

phreshone on May 3, 2014 at 1:45 PM

sadly, you could say many if not all of those things
for many intercity districts in the country..
Plantation style politicians have their kept
the LIVs right where they want them….
poor.. illiterate.. without ambition, desire or dreams…
its really sad..

going2mars on May 3, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Conyers is a member of the lawless CBC. He will find a Federal Judge to allow him in the race despite written laws forbidding it.

Bleed_thelizard on May 3, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Thaddeus McCotter
does not live in Detroit..
TM is the 11th congressional district
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaddeus_McCotter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan%27s_11th_congressional_district

JC is the 13th congressional district
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Conyers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan%27s_13th_congressional_district

unless you heard something I haven’t about this..

going2mars on May 3, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Conyers can still do a write-in campaign. That’s usually a long shot in American politics

…that is how Mike Duggan…just became the (Irish democrat) mayor of Detroit!

KOOLAID2 on May 3, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Thaddeus McCotter
does not live in Detroit..
TM is the 11th congressional district

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaddeus_McCotter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan%27s_11th_congressional_district

going2mars on May 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

JC is the 13th congressional district

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Conyers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan%27s_13th_congressional_district

unless you heard something I haven’t about this..

going2mars on May 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

A write my name in the box worked for Murkiecow last time. It’s not that far fetched for an incumbent with a name.

Kissmygrits on May 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

A write my name in the box worked for Murkiecow last time. It’s not that far fetched for an incumbent with a name.

Kissmygrits on May 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM

I don’t know, grits. It’s Detroit. Those idiots are still convinced Obama has a stash.

TinFin on May 3, 2014 at 2:07 PM

full disclosure
I grew up as a small child in this clowns district..
on Desoto street… south of 5 mile road…
my mother and grandmother voted against the guy many times..
(40 years later M&M made millions for living on 8 mile..
h3ll 8 mile was in the suburbs when I was young)
90% of those homes no longer exist…

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4013821,-83.1550643,492m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

going2mars on May 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Oh please, after N.J. does anyone thing this azz isn’t going to the ballot? There will probably even be neon arrows point to his name to guide the low info.

Cindy Munford on May 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Another great case for term limits.

Luthier on May 3, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Racists

Brock Robamney on May 3, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Union thugs and NBP at the polls, inside the “campaigning limit” (is MI has one)…nothing to see here.

Man, doesn’t it seem like we’re right on the edge of it all blowing up? Terrorists everywhere, Foriegn and Domestic according to the Gov’t, regular Americans getting shafted everywhere?

The totality of D.C.’s interventions seem to be adding up to the famous “1000 cuts”.

Who is John Galt on May 3, 2014 at 2:57 PM

If we can get the man out of office in 2017 without having to destroy the country with a Revolutionary War and we get new leaders who will let the markets work and the People live in Freedom our economy will come roaring back like you’ve never seen, and Obama will become even more bitter than that scowling wife of his.

ConstantineXI on May 3, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Presumes that you trust the beholden-to-the-same-masters Rs.

Good luck with that.

Schadenfreude on May 3, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Keeping him off the ballot is wrong based on any proper interpretation of the Good and Welfare Clause.

Mark1971 on May 3, 2014 at 11:37 AM

One small correction. It’s the Good and Plenty Clause.

Mimzey on May 3, 2014 at 3:00 PM

They keep moving out of Detroit faster than Conyers and the Dems can keep up with the changes to the voter rolls
(it’s all the fault of Motor Voter – they move to another state, get a new DL, and before you know it, they’re on the voter-role there and the Registrar sends a notice to purge them from the MI rolls).
If only they had the decency to die, their residency would not be a question mark.

Another Drew on May 3, 2014 at 3:51 PM

The rules vary by state and you generally not only need to collect valid signatures, but have valid people doing the collecting

.

This seems strange to me. Granted I’ve only ever done collecting in Massachusetts, but how would it even be *possible* to positively identify and verify who did the collection of the signatures? Do they need to submit photographic evidence?

What?

BKennedy on May 3, 2014 at 3:57 PM

in the late thirties there was a small Irish bar on this corner..
next to it a small grocery store..
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.401052,-83.159611,3a,75y,44.09h,79.25t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMVa6fA0J_cMD30bF35qt0A!2e0?hl=en

my grandfather (being Irish) used to ‘volunteer’ to run down to the
corner to get my grandmother a quart of milk for dinner…or whatever..
he took my mother for the walk,..
she told be they would always stop off at the bar so g’pa could have a pop..
he’d hoist her to the bar top and order her a Shirley Temple.. extra cherry..
inexpensive Irish Whiskey and a short beer for him..
after the pop.. a run next door to get the milk and back down Desoto for dinner..
by the early 50′s across the street a furniture shop showed up..
my mother met my father there buying a television..
by the mid 60′s that part of Detroit took the hard turn left..
when the riots came.. late 60′s.. they looted and burned the grocery store… looted the bar which also had fire damage..
sent the owner to the hospital…he sold quick..
the furniture store faired no better…
console televisions were running past our house..
with 4 human sized legs..
a month later we moved out..
its not racist if you lived it..

going2mars on May 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM

we all know it is not the fault of John Conyers
that Detroit is the urban blight it is..
this guy says its our fault…white flight..

Coleman Young, Detroit’s first black mayor, wrote in 1994:

The heaviest casualty, however, was the city. Detroit’s losses went a hell of a lot deeper than the immediate toll of lives and buildings. The riot put Detroit on the fast track to economic desolation, mugging the city and making off with incalculable value in jobs, earnings taxes, corporate taxes, retail dollars, sales taxes, mortgages, interest, property taxes, development dollars, investment dollars, tourism dollars, and plain damn money. The money was carried out in the pockets of the businesses and the white people who fled as fast as they could. The white exodus from Detroit had been prodigiously steady prior to the riot, totaling twenty-two thousand in 1966, but afterwards it was frantic. In 1967, with less than half the year remaining after the summer explosion—the outward population migration reached sixty-seven thousand. In 1968 the figure hit eighty-thousand, followed by forty-six thousand in 1969.[73]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot#Housing_and_neighborhoods

you see if we had only stayed in the city
to be further robbed, mugged, raped, looted, stabbed and shot
things for the city would be much better..

the citizens of Detroit call him “The Honorable Mayor Young”
my question… who would stay for more of this?

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrBTz6Uh2VTc2oAKzBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0bjAxNjdrBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDIyN18x?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-287-s&va=the+detroit+riot+of+1967

going2mars on May 3, 2014 at 9:03 PM

“.. worst case scenario he’ll run as an “independent” and win 80% of the vote.

he’s done such a good job as evidenced by the economic vitality of Detroit and MI in general.”

acyl72 on May 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

-
he’ll run as an “independent” and win 80% 115% of the vote.

-
FIFY

diogenes on May 4, 2014 at 6:54 AM

His election will have as much legitimacy as Saddam, Assad, or any other third world dictator. Speaking of third world have you seen Detroit lately?

phatfawzi on May 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM

If we followed election law to the letter, it would disadvantage Democrats who, as we know, due to discrimination, have difficulty reading and following directions.

Conyers is looking good at 84 and it’s not as though Michigan has any big issues to solve, so let’s just keep him around. If we counted the votes by the book, they would probably be his anyway, so why sweat this primary thing? /sarc

virgo on May 4, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Conyers in a landslide.
Need proof? How about a judge ruling that write-in votes for Mickey Mouse go to the Gimmedat? Yea, in this part of the country THAT sort of nonsense happens in each and every election.
Heck you have Senator Al Frankin (professional commedian) because of a few car trunks full of ‘missing’ ballots that were included by judicial fiat.
Conyers should have been forced to wear a ‘stripped suit’ (the special kind) a LONG time ago.
Chicago Mob Politics spreads far and wide in this part of America.

Stupid Americans.

Missilengr on May 4, 2014 at 11:31 PM