USAF general: “We should have tried” to respond to Benghazi attack

posted at 12:01 pm on May 1, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

What did the command structure of the military and intelligence communities know about the attack on our consulate in Benghazi, and when did they know it? And why, in any case, were neither prepared to respond to an attack on one of the most obviously vulnerable American diplomatic outposts — on the anniversary of 9/11? The House Oversight Committee heard testimony today from a man near the top of both command structures, retired Air Force Brigadier General Robert Lovell, who served as Deputy Director for Intelligence and Knowledge Development Directorate for AFRICOM at the time of the attack. Lovell insisted that intelligence knew full well that the attack on Benghazi had nothing to do with a YouTube video from the very beginning of the attack:

Lovell also sternly testified that the US should have provided some kind of response when the attack began. Katie Pavlich reports on his testimony:

“Many with firsthand knowledge have recounted the heroism displayed by the brave Americans in Benghazi that night. They fought the way they trained. That is in the record. Outside of Libya there were discussions that churned on about what we should do. These elements also fought the way they were trained. Specifically, the predisposition to interagency influence had the military structure—in the spirit of expeditionary government support—waiting for a request for assistance from the State Department. There are accounts of time, space and capability discussions of the question, could we have gotten there in time to make a difference. Well, the discussion is not in the “could or could not” in relation to time, space and capability—the point is we should have tried. As another saying goes: “Always move to the sound of the guns,” Lovell said. “It is with a sense of duty as a retired General officer that I respectfully submit these thoughts and perspectives.”

Lovell also confirmed again that the 9/11 Benghazi attack was not a result of a demonstration but instead was a well planned out assault and said the situation of holding back help made the military feel “desperate.”

“The military should have made a response of some sort,” he said.

Further, Lovell said people on the ground that night knew it was an attack from al Qaeda almost immediately.

“We didn’t know how long this would last when we became aware of the distress nor did we completely understand what we had in front of us, be it a kidnapping, rescue, recovery, protracted hostile engagement or any or all of the above,” Lovell said. “But what we did know quite early on was that this was a hostile action. This was no demonstration gone terribly awry.”

USA Today points out that Lovell’s testimony directly contradicts the story told by the Obama administration about the initial talking points used and the information provided to the White House:

Lovell’s testimony contradicts the story that the Obama administration gave in the early days following the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on the U.S. Consulate that left four Americans dead, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Back then the administration insisted that the best intelligence it had from CIA and other officials indicated that the attack was a protest against an anti-Islam video that turned violent.

Lovell’s testimony is the first from a member of the military who was at Africa Command at the time of the attack. Lovell was deputy director for intelligence at Africa Command.

Why didn’t AFRICOM provide an immediate response? Lovell says State never called them to ask for one:

Lovell did not question the Pentagon claim that it could not have scrambled forces in the region quickly enough to have prevented the deaths of the Americans. Lovell said no one at the time of the attack knew how long it would go, so could not have determined then that there was no use in trying.

“As the attack was ongoing, it was unclear whether it was an attempted kidnapping, rescue, recovery, protracted hostile engagement or any or all of the above,” Lovell said.

While people on the ground were fighting for their lives, discussions among U.S. leaders outside Libya “churned on about what we should do,” but the military waited for a request for assistance from the State Department, Lovell said.

In other words, no one at State answered the 3 AM phone call, or made one when it was needed.

Republicans have begun to press for a select committee investigation into Benghazi. The sudden discovery that the White House hid memos and this new testimony from Lovell should remove all obstacles to the broader, unified probe. Clearly some have not told the truth about what happened and why we had no response to the terrorist attack on our facilities despite months of warnings about it. The deaths of four Americans demand better accountability than what this administration has been willing to provide.


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Say “Buh-Bye” to 2016, Hillary.

Bishop Ratso!!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:04 PM

RATSO!!

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:04 PM

o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM

What did the command structure of the military and intelligence communities know about the attack on our consulate in Benghazi, and when did they know it? And why, in any case, were neither prepared to respond to an attack on one of the most obviously vulnerable American diplomatic outposts — on the anniversary of 9/11?

Probably right away. The current military leadership has no spine or principles. They were cowed by Obama in the whole DADT when he threatened them “support me or your fired.” What do you think he would do to them if they really went after him on these issues? Plus Obama will throw them under the bus so quickly, they won’t even be able to say the word retirement.

melle1228 on May 1, 2014 at 12:06 PM

As mad as I get at Lindsey Graham, I have to say that he was truly emotional about this on Special Report last night. On F & F Judge Napolitano said the house should hire Michael Chertoff to handle all the questioning from now on.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:07 PM

This administration has blood on their hands.

Billary’s response “What difference does it make?” shows the venal nature of “progressivism”. It has nothing to do with morals and everything to with power and whatever is convenient to get it and hold it.

Benghazi 2016, should be the new motto! American Classical Liberalism is next.

Chuck Ef on May 1, 2014 at 12:07 PM

In other words, no one at State answered the 3 AM phone call, or made one when it was needed.

Hillary was drunk and Dear Liar was getting his beauty sleep for Vegas.

rbj on May 1, 2014 at 12:07 PM

MSM secure communication:

“This does not help Hillary. Activate Project SMEAR”

IRS email to WH:

“Lovell testimony; We’re on it”

BobMbx on May 1, 2014 at 12:08 PM

The deaths of four Americans demand better accountability than what this administration has been willing to provide.

The administration will never give it.

upinak on May 1, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Boehner has nothing concrete…in other words, this could be bad for my golf game.

d1carter on May 1, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Republicans have begun to press for a select committee investigation into Benghazi.

We need to slam Bohener’s office, hard and make him get on with this.

As mad as I get at Lindsey Graham, I have to say that he was truly emotional about this on Special Report last night. On F & F Judge Napolitano said the house should hire Michael Chertoff to handle all the questioning from now on.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:07 PM

It’s because he has responsibility in what happened. He and McCain were all for the original operation that sent Hays.

budfox on May 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

These elements also fought the way they were trained.

 
As did this administration.
 
And our resident (D) posters, right guys?

rogerb on May 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

The sudden discovery that the White House hid memos and this new testimony from Lovell should remove all obstacles to the broader, unified probe.

Who is it that’s going to be unified? As far as I can tell the only time Democrats have agreed with Republican on investigating anything is when they found out that they were being listened to by NSA.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

You’re DAMNED right we should have tried!!! Disgusting.

VegasRick on May 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

The hearing should be resuming shortly on C-Span3:

http://www.c-span.org/live/?channel=c-span-3

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Where was this fellow’s input 18 months ago? Was there a gag order? Sadly, we still have done nothing to pursue the people who committed this terrorist act. justice delayed is better than justice denied; so let’s do something to give the lie to the impression that we are a helpless punching bag.

KW64 on May 1, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Lovell said no one at the time of the attack knew how long it would go, so could not have determined then that there was no use in trying.

“As the attack was ongoing, it was unclear whether it was an attempted kidnapping, rescue, recovery, protracted hostile engagement or any or all of the above,”

The second statement is very damning. It clearly shows that the administration is unable to act unless the outcome of that action can be determined.

“We didn’t know what was happening, so we decided to wait to see how it unfold”

Thats what they did, and it blew up in their faces.

BobMbx on May 1, 2014 at 12:12 PM

The fact that Benghazi happened on 9/11 should have made the motive obvious even to Obama’s media whores.

viking01 on May 1, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Chucky T: No smoking gun….

d1carter on May 1, 2014 at 12:12 PM

budfox on May 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Then you would think it was in his interests to continue the cover up.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:13 PM

In other words, no one at State answered the 3 AM phone call, or made one when it was needed.

Because they were too busy working with the White House on the Lies to save Obama’s and Killary’s rotten arises come election day.

IMPEACH this evil mofo!

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 12:13 PM

ICYMI, the hearing will be archived on C-Span:

http://www.c-span.org/video/?319116-1/us-intervention-libya

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:13 PM

We need to slam Bohener’s office, hard and make him get on with this.
budfox on May 1, 2014 at 12:11

Do you really think Boehner is going to do anything concerning this? Have you not been paying attention to what Boehner’s been doing lately?

That man is going to break down and cry. He isn’t doing anything, for anyone.

upinak on May 1, 2014 at 12:14 PM

On 9/11, Dick Cheney was informed of a plane flying near the Capitol. He said, paraphrasing, “Shoot it down!”

If preeeezy revenge had sent in the full might of the American Military to Benghazi, he would have been perceived as a hero not the zero he is. Valerie Jarrett is responsible for the talking points.

dawndawn on May 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM

viking01 on May 1, 2014 at 12:12 PM

That’s been a head scratcher for me since the beginning. Sending an unsupported U.S. ambassador to an unsecured location in the middle of Muslims on, for them, the anniversary of one of their greatest successes. Now two great successes. But these are the smartest people ever to grace the White House?

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Jay’s carnival is on now. Man that SOS lies.

TfromV on May 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Boehner has nothing concrete…in other words, this could be bad for my golf game.

d1carter on May 1, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Boehner is a corrupt coward.

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Jay Carney right now trying to clean up yesterday’s mess of a press briefing….ugh

____________

The testimony where the General says we should have tried…just broke my heart again.

CoffeeLover on May 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Boehner is going to have to finally sack up. Can he do it?:)

butch on May 1, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Hillary lied, Americans died.

That should be the slogan for 2016. Hammer that early and often.

conservative hispanic on May 1, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Boehner is going to have to finally sack up. Can he do it?:)

butch on May 1, 2014 at 12:16 PM

he has to have a sack first.

upinak on May 1, 2014 at 12:17 PM

While people on the ground were fighting for their lives, discussions among U.S. leaders outside Libya “churned on about what we should do,” but the military waited for a request for assistance from the State Department, Lovell said.

That’s the problem to begin with, the military waiting for a request from a feckless State Department.

When Americans lives are at risk, the military shouldn’t have to wait on anyone. Their standing orders should be to act immediately unless ordered not to do so by the CinC, period.

Again, Obama and company have the rules of engagement ass backwards.

TXUS on May 1, 2014 at 12:17 PM

The sudden discovery that the White House hid memos and this new testimony from Lovell should remove all obstacles to the broader, unified probe.

Sudden discovery“? That’s a bit like being shocked to discover gambling at Rick’s, isn’t it?

Anyone with a pulse and at least a passing interest in the truth has known for a year and a half that this whole Benghazi deal stunk to high heaven.

If our political overlords had wanted a broader, unified probe, they’ve had plenty of time for it already. Boehner and “leadership” have clearly been told not to do it, and it’s not going to happen.

bofh on May 1, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Carney’s defense at presser today ……….. Republican Conspiracy

Dude is imploding.

fogw on May 1, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Carney sure is getting snippy. That’s all liars have when they get caught lying.

forest on May 1, 2014 at 12:19 PM

fogw on May 1, 2014 at 12:18 PM

now he’s telling the press to ask every dang agency their questions..(not him?) UGH

CoffeeLover on May 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Watergate, Iran-Contra, etc..

BobMbx on May 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM

And I look forward to the predictable time travel “we couldn’t reach them before the attack was over” posts.
 
12-1 lunch
1-130 Meeting with Jerry
130-2 Staples for toner on way back to office
2-4:15 Repel terrorist attack
415-5 Conference call, Jones account
***When is Secretary’s Day?
MILK AND EGGS ON WAY HOME
 
They knew they didn’t need to send help because they wouldn’t arrive before the attack had finished. 2-4:15 and then the Jones account, racists.

rogerb on May 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Carney’s defense at presser today ……….. Republican Conspiracy

Dude is imploding.

fogw on May 1, 2014 at 12:18 PM

He must’ve had breakfast with Kill & Bill.

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM

I can imagine how much it must have hurt all of the military that wanted to something/anything to help their fellow Americans. It goes against everything we are taught and train for, but most of all it goes against the military motto of “no one left behind”.

Sven on May 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Just my guess, Barry the Marxist and Shrillary both decided on that day that a military response may create another ” Blackhawk Down” incident. It was far more politically expedient for both of them to let those men die.
They were sacrificed at the alter of election hopes for the both of those pigs.

I appreciate the General’s testimony at this point, but is everyone speaking out now because they are safely collecting pensions?

How sick that Barry went to sleep while those men were fighting for their lives.

Exninja on May 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM

We need to slam Bohener’s office, hard and make him get on with this.

budfox on May 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

i tried calling his office this morning. ended up on hold for over 15 minutes before i gave up. i don’t know if that’s a good thing because so many people have been calling or if his office is just ignoring phone calls from outside his district. i wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the latter.

dbilly76 on May 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Is it just me or isn’t Carney a wee bit old to be playing “Kick the Can”…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM

The next question I want addressed is why the FBI took weeks to secure the crime scene at Benghazi when reporters were on the scene within a couple days. It was CNN who found Christopher Stevens Journal four days after the attack. It showed that Stevens was concerned about the “never-ending” security threats of Benghazi.

Yet it was weeks before the FBI was on the scene and the administration was still maintaining a spontaneous protest run amok as late as the 25th of September when the rat-eared wonder made the claim at the UN.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Down goes Carney

forest on May 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Expect Carneys departure date to be moved up.

forest on May 1, 2014 at 12:23 PM

“Ed…..”

OMG he’s still holding to what he said yesterday. It was a general memo on the ME not Benghazi.

CoffeeLover on May 1, 2014 at 12:24 PM

CoffeeLover on May 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM

I see your frustration and raise you a can of Whoop-A$$…

[sham-wows and Windex available upon request...]

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Oh, and wondering what the military response would have been if Chelsea or the little moochers would have been staffing that “embassy”?

Exninja on May 1, 2014 at 12:24 PM

If Hillary Clinton decides to run for president in 2016, she’ll undoubtedly be a “formidable” candidate, Sen. John McCain

the_nile on May 1, 2014 at 12:25 PM

In the Good Old Days (which were not that long ago), some colonel would have scrambled air support immediately, and damn the White House and State Department.

But any leadership or initiative, or balls, are being thoroughly purged from the officer corps. And this has been going on for quite a long time.

ZenDraken on May 1, 2014 at 12:26 PM

still making jabs at Fox!!!

“It was a simple cut and paste.” ugh

CoffeeLover on May 1, 2014 at 12:26 PM

…(you guys are endangering Ratso’s health…cats shouldn’t get clubbed at the knees!)
.
.
.
…meanwhile Carney is on TV…dancing with the stars!

KOOLAID2 on May 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM

thanks Newtie..I just changed the channel back.

CoffeeLover on May 1, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Carney’s defense at presser today ……….. Republican Conspiracy

Dude is imploding.

fogw on May 1, 2014 at 12:18 PM

I’m calling it at two weeks (at most) before Carney gives the “more time with my family” speech. He took a heavy hit yesterday with the whole nonsense of doubling down on the idea that the report which was clearly about Benghazi really wasn’t.

It will only take a couple more of these absurd denials and claims of partisan motives for him to go over the top. I would have said that Carney calls it a witch hunt but with Killary involved a slightly different kind of hunt would be more appropriate.

In any case, Tony Snow never got caught knowingly lying to the press. Carney is no Tony Snow.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Expect Carneys departure date to be moved up.

forest on May 1, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Why? Carney only parrots what he is told. He is a mouthpiece, not a decision maker. Any new mouthpiece will be making the exact same sounds as Carney.

NotCoach on May 1, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Lanceman.

John the Libertarian on May 1, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Issa to hold hearings in … oh, screw it.

ShainS on May 1, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Cummings is a dishonest hack and has lost all credibility.

His opening statement today was about “getting Qaddafi, with the support of McCain, Ms. Lindsey, Rubio, bla, bla, bla….”, with not a mention of the dead, obama, Hillary, the cover up of the cover up. I hope he finds the 10th layer in Hell comfortable because the 9th is too cold for him and his gang.

He used to be a credible man. Done, over.

Qaddafi was killed by the thugs, hired by the Americans, for one reason alone – he wanted, with a group of other smaller lands, to replace the US dollar for oil transactions. He was a creep but the US and the terrorists were no longer his concern.

Now the land is run by the terrorists.

Congratulations obama, Hillary, Rice, all the scumhags who pushed obama into Libya; and congratulation for crating a terrorist heaven, with the stooges McCain, Rubio and Lindsey, incl. the dead, and none punished for it.

Vote Hillary – her ugly hands are full of blood.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2014 at 12:32 PM

CoffeeLover on May 1, 2014 at 12:28 PM

I KNEW I would come in handy some day! :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM

It makes one wonder how badly Barky and Killary wanted to be rid of Amb. Stevens….

…. sorta like the Clintoons wanted to be (and soon were) rid of Ron Brown.

viking01 on May 1, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Where was this fellow’s input 18 months ago? Was there a gag order?

KW64 on May 1, 2014 at 12:12 PM

He probably wasn’t allowed to say anything until he retired.

Glad he’s speaking up, BUT – look at this guy’s bio (link in Ed’s writeup).
He was a supply and personnel officer and student for the first 19 years of his career (entire career is National Guard BTW – not active duty AF) – i.e. zero operational experience. He didn’t even get into the Intel field until 2004 when he was a Colonel.

Indicates to me that he’s a “politician” type officer – not a true “warfighter”.

Ed – your headline is faulty. He’s NOT a USAF Brig. General. He’s an Air National Guard Brig. General. There is a difference.

dentarthurdent on May 1, 2014 at 12:34 PM

“Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi,” Pelosi said to reporters Thursday when asked about a new cache of recently released emails. “Why aren’t we talking about something else?”

http://weaselzippers.us

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Carney is still saying WH talking points were not about Benghazi in preparing Susan Rice. But two weeks later the Pres went to the UN and still said it was the video. Arrrrrrgh.

Connecticut on May 1, 2014 at 12:34 PM

In other words, no one at State answered the 3 AM phone call, or made one when it was needed.

Hillary Clinton: “You’re damned right I ordered the Code Standdown! And I’d do it again.”

Sorry, ladies who wan’t Clinton; this unpleasant hag shouldn’t be anywhere near a seat of power.

BuckeyeSam on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Worth remembering:

SEN. GRAHAM: Are you surprised that the president of the United States never called you, Secretary Panetta, and say, ‘how’s it going?’

SEC. PANETTA: I — you know, normally in these situations –

SEN. GRAHAM: Did he know the level of threat that –

SEC. PANETTA: Let — well, let me finish the answer. We were deploying the forces. He knew we were deploying the forces. He was being kept updated –

SEN. GRAHAM: Well, I hate to interrupt you, but I got limited time. We didn’t deploy any forces. Did you call him back — wait a minute –

SEC. PANETTA: No, but the event — the event was over by the time we got –

SEN. GRAHAM: Mr. Secretary, you didn’t know how long the attack would last. Did you ever call him and say, Mr. President, it looks like we don’t have anything to get there anytime soon?

SEC. PANETTA: The event was over before we could move any assets.

SEN. GRAHAM: It lasted almost eight hours. And my question to you is during that eight-hour period, did the president show any curiosity about how’s this going, what kind of assets do you have helping these people? Did he ever make that phone call?

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/08/panetta-obama-never-called-back-to-check-on-benghazi/

*spit double spit*

can_con on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

viking01 on May 1, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Whatever it is it worked, out of four dead Americans only the family of one is interested in why he died.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Tony Snow was a devout, principled, kind-hearted, much-loved man.

Jay Carney is just a street hustler in a suit.

With Obama’s media whores to cover for him.

viking01 on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

You know, maybe the only reason I want an (R) in the White House is so that (D)s can care about this sort of stuff again.

rogerb on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

He used to be a credible man.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2014 at 12:32 PM

When?

NotCoach on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

OMG he’s still holding to what he said yesterday. It was a general memo on the ME not Benghazi.

CoffeeLover on May 1, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Idiotic to say the least, since it was specifically released under an FOIA about BENGHAZI..

melle1228 on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Why has no one asked what the issue would have been with having an armed response of US assets arrive late to the battle?

The admins response is uniformly one that says “we couldn’t have gotten there in time”. Well, ok. So a contingent of Spec warriors or the ready battalion of the 101st Airborne Div arrive on US soil moments after it had been over-run and an ambassador killed.

WTF is wrong with that optic? Who in the world would have criticized that action (usual suspects discounted, of course)?

I think not having the Screaming Eagles floating down in full combat regalia sent a big message to the world.

“You can have your way with US interests. Obama won’t do a damn thing”

BobMbx on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Knew within minutes that it was a planned terrorist attack.

Anybody with an IQ above room temperature knew this. They also anticipated it due to the 9/11 anniversary. It still sickens me that Americans were fighting heroically for their lives believing help would be coming.

Blake on May 1, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Panetta is an unctous dirtbag fully inadequate for the job.

Which is why Barky chose him.

viking01 on May 1, 2014 at 12:37 PM

It makes one wonder how badly Barky and Killary wanted to be rid of Amb. Stevens….

…. sorta like the Clintoons wanted to be (and soon were) rid of Ron Brown.

viking01 on May 1, 2014 at 12:33 PM

No way. They didn’t want to get rid of their friend. He was just their stooge in the Quadaffi-for-non-USdollar-for oil, the gun run to Syria operations…and he was personally drawn to Benghazi that night, for pleasure, under the disguise of the official gun-run business.

Standard operations procedures for a night like the anniv. of 9.11 were to be in the bunker in Tripoli.

This truth will haunt Hillary and obama to the end of their days.

If Romney had a set, and if his handlers were any good, he’d be president today and obama and thugs w/b in prison, the latter. He’d be making billions speechifying.

Media, die in obama and Hillary’s azzes. It ain’t Beluga caviar, you propagandist harlots. You are worse than LilliPutin’s media hacks. Carney is Goebbels’ grandson.

Also blame Stevens’ parents. Were they not so leftist they’d have told the truth about his last conversation with them. obama would not be president. Alas, he’s more important to them than their dead son.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM

fogw on May 1, 2014 at 12:18 PM

While I wish you were correct, I doubt it and the same people questioning Mr. Carney at theis moment are the same people who will make sure nothing too terrible touches their superman.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Killary will not be our president.

John the Libertarian on May 1, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Nothing on CNN’s website about this. Nothing.

Hat Trick on May 1, 2014 at 12:39 PM

John the Libertarian on May 1, 2014 at 12:29 PM

…ditto that! (I left you a message on the last thread)

KOOLAID2 on May 1, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM

I am sure they think it was a sacrifice for the greater good for the country. The voters had their chance. Stupid is strong here.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Is it just me or isn’t Carney a wee bit old to be playing “Kick the Can”…

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM

He learned that from Congress on spending reductions. Monkey see, monkey do.

de rigueur on May 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

It still sickens me that Americans were fighting heroically for their lives believing help would be coming.

Blake on May 1, 2014 at 12:37 PM

It is just so horrible to think about.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

The admins response is uniformly one that says “we couldn’t have gotten there in time”.
BobMbx on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

My automatic response to this is – Why not?
We’re talking about a small diplomatic post in a country that is overrun with AQ (and other assorted) terrorists in the midst of a civil war between various terrorist factions.
1) WHY in he11 would we have people there?
2) WHY would those people be left defenseless, and not at least have a unit on ready standby at ALL times?

dentarthurdent on May 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

O/T–Anyone hear from HonestLib yet?

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

While I wish you were correct, I doubt it and the same people questioning Mr. Carney at theis moment are the same people who will make sure nothing too terrible touches their superman.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Yeah.

The Praetorian Guard is mildly upset that the WH doesn’t maintain the proper veneer of pretenses…embarrassing the Praetorian Guard in front of the Hoi Polloi…

Bad Form!

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Wait.. wait. You’re telling me that we had a Second 9-11 on Obama’s Watch?

faraway on May 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Nothing on CNN’s website about this. Nothing.

Hat Trick on May 1, 2014 at 12:39 PM

I was really shocked to see this ……….

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/05/01/CNNs-King-Mocks-WH-Spin-on-Benghazi-Documents

MontanaMmmm on May 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

“But — but the basic principle here — basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.” Leon Panetta Oct 26 2012

can_con on May 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

The admins response is uniformly one that says “we couldn’t have gotten there in time”.
BobMbx on May 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM
My automatic response to this is – Why not?
We’re talking about a small diplomatic post in a country that is overrun with AQ (and other assorted) terrorists in the midst of a civil war between various terrorist factions.
1) WHY in he11 would we have people there?
2) WHY would those people be left defenseless, and not at least have a unit on ready standby at ALL times?

dentarthurdent on May 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

It is so silly, how would anyone know how long it would last when it started? So, saying they couldn’t get there in time is a joke.

Sven on May 1, 2014 at 12:45 PM

dentarthurdent on May 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Why didn’t Charlene Lamb believe that Benghazi was worth the State Dept’s while to grant an OK for the extra security that was begged for?

Newtie and the Beauty on May 1, 2014 at 12:45 PM

I apologize if somebody else made this point. They wouldn’t have had to wonder why help wasn’t sent if security was already there. As to a cover-up, one wonders if the cover up was going on long before the attack. What were they up to there? Another gun running operation?

crankyoldlady on May 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Valerie Jarrett is responsible for the talking points.

dawndawn on May 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM

I suspect she’s responsible for a whole lot more than that.

Cleombrotus on May 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM

“But — but the basic principle here — basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.” Leon Panetta Oct 26 2012
can_con on May 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Funny, we have units that specifically do that.

Sven on May 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Shhhh….

Don’t disturb the meme.

TheSnarkhivist on May 1, 2014 at 12:47 PM

“Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi,” Pelosi said to reporters Thursday when asked about a new cache of recently released emails. “Why aren’t we talking about something else?”

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Hey what about Oprah buying the Clippers? Who are the Kardashians bedding these days? And whatever happened to Honey Boo Boo!

Seriously, It’s really sad when the House minority leader of the United States House of Representatives shows that she and her filthy party don’t give a damn about the deaths of four Americans about Benghazi or the resulting cover-up by the Executive Branch.

Gerald Ford would never have been President if the GOP worked under the same rules of partisanship over truth back in 1972.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Hillary was passed out drunk and Barky was busy buggering Reggie Love and snortin’ a line or two as he was prepping for a quick little Vegas fling…and 4 Americans were slaughtered as a result. THIS is the hope and change?? Can someone please tell me why this man has not been impeached and why Hillary is the left’s heart-throb, destined to be our next President?? I know I am a racist and I know that we conservatives are at war with the wimmins, but, really….can anyone give me a straight answer here?? Libiotfreeorelse?… everdouchenozzle?? Any lefty at all want to chime in here??

bimmcorp on May 1, 2014 at 12:47 PM

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