Quotes of the day

posted at 10:11 pm on April 30, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

The U.S. economy barely grew in the first quarter as exports tumbled and businesses accumulated stocks at the slowest pace in nearly a year, but activity already appears to be bouncing back.

Gross domestic product expanded at a 0.1 percent annual rate, the slowest since the fourth quarter of 2012, the Commerce Department said on Wednesday.

That was a sharp pullback from the fourth quarter’s 2.6 percent pace and was worse than economists’ expectations for a slowdown to a 1.2 percent rate. The slowdown partly reflected an unusually cold and disruptive winter, marked by declines in sectors ranging from business spending to home building.

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Today’s GDP estimate is subject to a number of notable influences, including historically severe winter weather, which temporarily lowered growth in the first quarter. The report also shows the positive impact of the implementation of the Affordable Care Act which, together with continued slowing in health costs, helped strengthen the economy in the first quarter. …

2. The first quarter of 2014 was marked by unusually severe winter weather, including record cold temperatures and snowstorms, which explains part of the difference in GDP growth relative to previous quarters. The left chart shows the quarterly deviation in heating degree days from its average for the same quarter over the previous five years. By this measure, the first quarter of 2014 was the third most unusually cold quarter over the last sixty years, behind only the first quarter of 1978 and the fourth quarter of 1976. In addition, there were four storms in the first quarter that rated on the Northeast Snowfall Impact Scale (NESIS). The right chart shows that no quarter going back to 1956 had more than three such storms.

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As the U.S. economy teetered on the brink of contraction in the first quarter, one thing stood out. Healthcare spending increased at its fastest pace in more than three decades.

That surge is attributed to the implementation of President Barack Obama’s signature healthcare law, the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. Because of Obamacare, the nation narrowly avoided its first decline in output in three years.

“GDP growth would have … been negative were it not for healthcare spending,” said Harm Bandholz, chief economist at UniCredit Research in New York.

Healthcare spending increased at a 9.9 percent annual rate, the quickest since the third quarter of 1980, and it contributed 1.1 percentage points to GDP growth.

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The truth is, nobody knows how much of this slowdown represents a blip that will reverse in coming months is — and how much of it reflects fundamental weakness in the economy. The weather does a good job of explaining why businesses held back on investment during the beginning of the year, but it doesn’t explain stubborn weakness in housing or why companies aren’t exporting more. The economic recovery – now almost five years old – is replete with false starts and dashed optimism.

The spring and summer should be revealing – and are enormously important for the debate in Washington and the mid-term election campaign. Economic growth is an important factor in many models predicting the outcome of mid-term elections. If it continues to perform poorly, endangered Democrats could have even more reason to worry. And there could be compounding factors. It’s been a bit of a mystery about why Obama’s approval numbers – another factor in the mid-term races – have fared poorly after his administration was able to turn the Affordable Care Act enrollment period into something of a success. Perhaps slow growth – hey, bad weather makes people depressed, too – had something to do with it.

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A housing recovery that was expected to accelerate this year is instead sputtering. And no, you can’t just blame the weather.

Sharp increases in home prices in much of the USA, along with higher mortgage rates, have discouraged many house-hunters. Home inventories are at historically low levels. First-time home buyers, who traditionally drive home sales, remain saddled with student debt and face still-stringent lending standards.

After bouncing back smartly in 2012 and most of 2013 following the 2006-09 real estate crash, the housing market began slowing last fall. Although an unusually cold and snowy winter hindered activity early this year, home sales and starts were disappointing again in March, even in the West and South.

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With the Republican-led filibuster of a Senate proposal to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10 on Wednesday, Democrats moved swiftly to frame the vote as an example of the gulf that exists between the two parties on matters of economic fairness and upward mobility.

The question is not just one of money, they said, but of morality. And in doing so the Democrats returned to the themes that were successful for their party and President Obama in 2012 when they convinced swing voters that Democrats were mindful of the best interests of all Americans — not just those who are powerful and wealthy.

Speaking from the White House shortly after the measure was defeated 54 to 42, with 60 votes needed to advance, Mr. Obama admonished Republicans and called on voters to punish them at the polls in November. “If there’s any good news here, it’s that Republicans in Congress don’t get the last word on this issue, or any issue,” Mr. Obama said. “You do, the American people, the voters.”

“If your member of Congress doesn’t support raising the minimum wage,” he added, “you have to let them know they’re out of step, and that if they keep putting politics ahead of working Americans, you’ll put them out of office.”

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Every other sentence out of the mouths of Barack Obama and other progressive Democrats seems to invoke the “middle class,” and when they’re not promising to help the middle class, they’re obsessing about how to humble the rich. In the past two weeks, the Left’s preoccupation with confiscating thy neighbor’s goods has been highlighted by two things: The reception of Thomas Piketty’s new book, Capital in the Twenty-first Century, and the response to rumors that Senator Elizabeth (“Occupy Wall Street”) Warren might run for president. Both have received the full secular saint treatment, reflecting the progressives’ almost mob-like eagerness to lay hands on more of the property of the rich. Not for the poor, mind you, but for the “middle class” (translation: themselves).

The great advantage of being a liberal/progressive in America is that you are always judged on your intentions (or stated intentions) and not on results. While the pundits are swooning for Piketty and Warren, may we have even a moment’s pause to consider how well Obama’s brand of progressivism has done for the poor and middle class?

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To the extent we have an economic inequality problem, it’s not because a small percenatge of our population—comprised of professional entertainers and athletes, corporate CEOs, internet pioneers, and others—are wealthier than the average American. Young graduates bearing large student loans while facing a weak job market, families facing unemployment or low wages, and single parents struggling to raise children do not find their situations any more difficult because some in our nation are wealthy.

Yet, liberals seem to think otherwise, and here we find a stark illustration of the converse mindsets of liberals and conservatives. Liberals seem to want to reduce economic inequality by bringing the people at the top down, while conservatives want to reduce inequality by bringing the people at the bottom up. The left wants to focus on class warfare while the right wants to focus on economic growth, the proverbial rising tide that raises all boats.

If we want to reduce economic inequality, the only logical solution is to raise the living standards of the middle class and those at the lower end of the economic spectrum.


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Lanceman is prolly just back from the finer pubs in Daytona…
not Whorelando as he used to say…
hope all goes well for you LM… regards..

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM

Paul McCartney & Wings – Let Me Roll It

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:17 AM

Paul’s attempt to be John Lennon.

John the Libertarian on May 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM

there ya go LM.. a Bish for ya…cheers..

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:24 AM

what’s the over and under that Carney calls in sick today??

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:26 AM

evening
laffs that right there should be a QotD thread,,
we could spend a whole night .. just making stuff up…lies..!!

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:21 AM

I had the same reaction to Jay that you did. It is beyond comical.

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:27 AM

Jerry Reed – Lord Mr. Ford

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:27 AM

Two Trains Running

novaculus on May 1, 2014 at 3:28 AM

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:27 AM

least we never forget the compliant Press here..
I have been saying for years they are
Criminally Liable in this case…
I cant wait to join the class action law suit…
every sane person knew all along this was lies..
and yet daily the Press told us..
nothing to see here..phony scandal… move along..
more lies from liars..

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:32 AM

Paul’s attempt to be John Lennon.

John the Libertarian on May 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM

We know it. It’s still great though.

Paul McCartney – Junior’s Farm

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:33 AM

incase you need a new suit to go with that hat.. -the z2-

http://www.space.com/25705-nasa-z2-spacesuit-design-glow-photos.html

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:39 AM

Two Trains Running

novaculus on May 1, 2014 at 3:28 AM

This is another album I haven’t heard for many years.

Al Kooper and Mike Bloomfield – Albert’s Shuffle

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:46 AM

Lanceman sends his love

DarkCurrent on May 1, 2014 at 3:47 AM

even the sun has tornados..

http://www.space.com/25702-twisters-on-the-sun-spotted-by-spacecraft-video.html

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:49 AM

least we never forget the compliant Press here..
I have been saying for years they are
Criminally Liable in this case…
I cant wait to join the class action law suit…
every sane person knew all along this was lies..
and yet daily the Press told us..
nothing to see here..phony scandal… move along..
more lies from liars..

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:32 AM

Mos Eisley

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:49 AM

drilling mars..
(this is part of SA/SPaH
I know these bits well)

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/news/whatsnew/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=1630

Sa/SPaH

http://msl-scicorner.jpl.nasa.gov/samplingsystem/

going2mars on May 1, 2014 at 3:54 AM

Lanceman sends his love

DarkCurrent on May 1, 2014 at 3:47 AM

Sammy wants to lick his face.

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:56 AM

Renee Geyer – It’s A Man’s Man’s World

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:57 AM

DarkCurrent on May 1, 2014 at 3:47 AM

Lanceman- Que paso, amigo?

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:46 AM

A great record, set a “supergroup” trend, partly as a result of Bloomfield’s drug problems.

I’m gonna call it a night shortly, but I’ll throw this one in. I always loved the first BS&T record.

I Love You More Than You’ll Ever Know

novaculus on May 1, 2014 at 4:00 AM

Referencing the legendary story of Jenny Brooks whose sons were killed by armed agents collecting taxes for the Confederate government, Vanderboegh pulled out a skull. Mrs. Bundy’s [sic] place in history was secured by her revenge killings of two of the agents, turning one of their skulls into a soap dish.

Vanderboegh declared he would present his skull to Reid as the “2014 Award for Incitement to Civil War.”

“I will send it as a reminder with the message, ‘Don’t poke the wolverine with a sharp stick, Harry, unless you want your balls ripped off.’”

http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/bundy-supporter-reid-promising-us-all-civil-war/?cat_orig=politics

davidk on May 1, 2014 at 4:10 AM

Sammy wants to lick his face.

non-nonpartisan on May 1, 2014 at 3:56 AM

I’m sure Lanceman would enjoy that, if he weren’t ded

DarkCurrent on May 1, 2014 at 4:11 AM

Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/30/bundy-aftermath-utah-lawmaker-moves-to-disarm-blm-/

davidk on May 1, 2014 at 4:17 AM

Today, just over one month short of its 28th anniversary, the historic, marathon litigation, N.O.W. v. Scheidler, has culminated in yet another unanimous, decisive pro-life victory for the defendants, Joseph Scheidler, Andrew Scholberg, Timothy Murphy, and the Chicago-based Pro-Life Action League, as a unanimous federal appellate panel roundly rejected any and all objections raised by the abortion plaintiffs, N.O.W., and a pair of abortion providers representing a nationwide class of all abortion providers in the United States to the federal trial judge’s award of $63,391.45 in reimbursable, out-of-pocket costs to said pro-life defendants.

https://www.thomasmoresociety.org/2014/04/30/thomas-more-society-prevails-once-again-in-historic-n-o-w-v-scheidler-case/

davidk on May 1, 2014 at 4:23 AM

Fox News commentator Jeanine Pirro is asserting the federal Bureau of Land Management’s surge of interest in land used by Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy to graze his cattle has more to do with dollars and power projects than any interest in protecting a tortoise that also lives on the land.

In a special commentary on her “Justice with Judge Jeanine” program, she said the man she now calls “Dirty Harry” Reid, the majority leader in the U.S. Senate and a Nevada Democrat, may have had an ulterior motive for the attempted land grab from Bundy: energy projects.

She said if a solar energy project is expected to impact thousands of acres of desert land in the state, federal rules would require a mitigation zone, where animals that may be protected or endangered could be moved from the project site.

As WND reported, the BLM has mentioned Bundy’s cattle and the grazing land he uses in connected with solar power projects.

Pirro said “Dirty Harry” had been watching federal land being transferred and used for shopping malls and other projects for years until the “armed military type agents came in like stormtroopers.”

“You need snipers to move cows, Harry? Really?” she asked.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/judge-jeanine-takes-on-dirty-harry-reid/?cat_orig=diversions

davidk on May 1, 2014 at 4:25 AM

The increase in the affordable care act was due only to government threats and coercion. That makes only authoritarian rule over freedom the success-not the ACA.

Don L on May 1, 2014 at 4:30 AM

Evening all.

I read today that the WH blamed the poor GDP on winter weather. Later in the day I read that the GDP for the same quarter in Canada was 2.5%. Does Canada not have winter????

CoffeeLover on April 30, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Unoficial White House response to this comment:

Yes, but Canada’s winter is not racist as is ours.

Don L on May 1, 2014 at 4:36 AM

I have just been reminded of the time….I’ll check back in the a.m. for any other suggestions. Thanks!!!

Good Night All.

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 12:55 AM

Hi Mr. Bmore, I don’t post here very often, but reading tonight about your problem and being a major cat lover :-), I thought I’d give you my two paws, er.. cents.

Bob cats have litters from April-June, so she does probably have young cubs nearby. When the cubs get a bit older (in a few months if you can do that) then make it uncomfortable for them to be in your area – a few lights outside, noise (like a radio playing outside) and spray made of lemon,eucalyptus oil ( 20 drops) in water (cats don’t like those smells), or spray with a hose or one of those automatic water sprayers that squirt when deer walked in front of it.

Keep an eye on Ringo cus… well….

Have a great day!
Pesky

PeskyPuddyTat on May 1, 2014 at 4:38 AM

The increase in the affordable care act was due only to government threats and coercion. That makes only authoritarian rule over freedom the success-not the ACA.

Don L on May 1, 2014 at 4:30 AM

The elephant in the room these types ignore is just how much of a multiplier effect that capital would have had if it were freely invested or spent in the market, instead of being confiscated by government.

It’s like saying that a kid falling off a boat into water is safe because he found something to hold onto, while ignoring that what the kid is holding onto in this instance is a shark fin.

Wanderlust on May 1, 2014 at 4:54 AM

Heads Up:

KaBlewy Incident:
=================

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/explosion-reports-at-escambia-fla-jail/

Explosion reports at Escambia, Fla., jail
Escambia, FL, US
\***************
29m
Photo: Damage at the Escambia County Jail Central Booking facility following explosion – @coreydierdorff
see original on twitter.com
===========================

Escambia, FL, US
37m
Injured at Florida jail explosion have been transported to local hospitals; uninjured inmates being held at nearby facilities – @NBCNews
end of alert
===============

Escambia, FL, US
40m
Photo: Hundreds of family members surrounding Escambia County Jail waiting for more answers on explosion – @KatiWeis
see original on twitter.com
============================

Escambia, FL, US
41m
Spokeswoman: Gas explosion at Pensacola, Fla., jail has injured more than 100 inmates, officers – @AP
end of alert
============

Escambia, FL, US
46m
Update: 100-150 people injured in explosion at jail in Pensacola, Fla.; no information on fatalities, police say – @NBCNews
end of alert
==============

Escambia, FL, US
52m
Many injuries, partial building collapse reported following apparent explosion at the Escambia County Jail in Florida – @NBCNews
end of alert

canopfor on May 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM

canopfor on May 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM

I saw something about a big earthquake off New Caledonia. You have any word on tsunami, etc.?

davidk on May 1, 2014 at 5:37 AM

Good morning ladies and gentlemen and all kinds of cats. I was reading what GtoM said and I’m wondering if it would be possible to force or harass a local news outlet to tell the truth. I don’t mean illegally harass but when they misrepresent the truth go after them with a letter writing campaign threaten to sue, etc. If it becomes too much trouble to go on doing what they are doing they will either shut down or change their ways.

crankyoldlady on May 1, 2014 at 6:37 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

The Obama Administration: As transparent as the Mississippi River

My take: “New E-Mails Trace BenghaziGate “Video Strategy” Back to White House”

kingsjester on May 1, 2014 at 7:00 AM

The Obama Administration: As transparent as the Mississippi River

My take: “New E-Mails Trace BenghaziGate “Video Strategy” Back to White House”

kingsjester on May 1, 2014 at 7:00 AM

I can’t say I know how transparent the Mississippi is but good article.

crankyoldlady on May 1, 2014 at 7:03 AM

I can’t say I know how transparent the Mississippi is

crankyoldlady on May 1, 2014 at 7:03 AM

They call it the mighty muddy Mississippi, if that gives you an idea. ;0

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2014 at 7:08 AM

………and yet the republican leadership STILL cannot find the strength to actually be an OPPOSITION party?

And we all know why…….because in their hearts THEY ARE PROGRESSIVES just like the Democrats!

Onward to open tyranny America, that we voted for.

PappyD61 on May 1, 2014 at 7:11 AM

My take: “New E-Mails Trace BenghaziGate “Video Strategy” Back to White House”

kingsjester on May 1, 2014 at 7:00 AM

What are you talking about KJ? Jay Carney made it clear that the memo that had a section called Benghazi with the stated political goal of pinning the attack on a YouTube video and not the administration’s policies was not about Benghazi! Who are you going to believe this fine upstanding administration or your lying eyes?

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2014 at 7:12 AM

That link is bad.

The Obama Administration: As transparent as the Mississippi River
http://kingsjester.wordpress.com/2014/05/01/new-e-mails-trace-benghazigate-video-strategy-back-to-white-house/

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2014 at 7:12 AM

They only lie when their lips are moving.

kingsjester on May 1, 2014 at 7:20 AM

That link is bad.

The Obama Administration: As transparent as the Mississippi River
http://kingsjester.wordpress.com/2014/05/01/new-e-mails-trace-benghazigate-video-strategy-back-to-white-house/

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2014 at 7:12 AM

They only lie when their lips are moving.

kingsjester on May 1, 2014 at 7:20 AM

nice writeup…

Since Obama never actually practiced Law I think it’s safe to assume that Killary and Bill helped workup this idea colluding with Obama to save both their arses …

Hopefully more will be revealed…Drip…Drip…Drip…

Hillary Clinton: Source of the Benghazi Video Lie

http://www.redstate.com/2014/04/30/hillary-clinton-source-benghazi-video-lie/

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 7:33 AM

Thanks, y’all!

kingsjester on May 1, 2014 at 7:35 AM

“What we know

A two minute clip of the Innocence of Muslims video was shown on Egyptian television on September 9.

On September 11, an Egyptian mob (actual or astroturf, no one knows because astroturf mobs were the norm in Egypt under the Muslim Brotherhood) demonstrated outside, and on, the US Embassy in Cairo.

From a timeline produced by Factcheck.org, we know that there were no demonstrations in Benghazi on September 11, the day of the attack.

2:30 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time (8:30 p.m. Benghazi time): U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens steps outside the consulate to say goodbye to a Turkish diplomat. There are no protesters at this time. (“Everything is calm at 8:30,” a State Department official would later say at an Oct. 9 background briefing for reporters. “There’s nothing unusual. There has been nothing unusual during the day at all outside.”)

The attack began at around 4pm, EDT, by 8:30pm our ambassador was dead, at 10pm Hillary Clinton issued this statement:

I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today. As we work to secure our personnel and facilities, we have confirmed that one of our State Department officers was killed. We are heartbroken by this terrible loss. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and those who have suffered in this attack.

This evening, I called Libyan President Magariaf to coordinate additional support to protect Americans in Libya. President Magariaf expressed his condemnation and condolences and pledged his government’s full cooperation.

Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet [my emphasis]. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.

In light of the events of today, the United States government is working with partner countries around the world to protect our personnel, our missions, and American citizens worldwide.

On September 14, Ben Rhodes drafted the talking points for Susan Rice and others….”

http://www.redstate.com/2014/04/30/hillary-clinton-source-benghazi-video-lie/

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Jeb Bush has a strong lead in Florida among potential 2016 Republican presidential contenders – but Hillary Clinton’s got them all beat, a new poll Thursday found.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/hillary-clinton-jeb-bush-2016-election-poll-106227.html#ixzz30Sm2qTwZ

1 in 5 Floridians is foreign born.

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 7:38 AM

They only lie when their lips are moving.

kingsjester on May 1, 2014 at 7:20 AM

One quibble KJ. Ted Cruz is calling for a Joint Select Committee of the House and Senate. That’s a little different than bi-partisan hearings which, in theory we’ve had all along. And I’d add that the committee should have the power to subpeona and compel these critters to testify under oath.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2014 at 7:51 AM

California, New York,Texas,Florida,New Jersey,Illinois,Massachusetts,Arizona all have greater percentages of foreign born populations compared to native born populations.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/04/29/statistical-portrait-of-the-foreign-born-population-in-the-united-states-2012/#foreign-born-by-state-and-region-of-birth-2012-a

workingclass artist on May 1, 2014 at 7:57 AM

The Dems are blaming the Repubs for the failure of the minimum wage raise in the Senate. I suppose they rightly assume most people won’t know the Dems control the senate. Some Dems must have voted against.

crankyoldlady on May 1, 2014 at 8:14 AM

and spray made of lemon,eucalyptus oil ( 20 drops) in water (cats don’t like those smells)

PeskyPuddyTat on May 1, 2014 at 4:38 AM

Thanks. I’ll give that a try. Has to smell better than diesel or kerosene. Plus I don’t want to separate the female from the cubs. If she has them. I’ll keep you posted. ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Thanks. I’ll give that a try. Has to smell better than diesel or kerosene. Plus I don’t want to separate the female from the cubs. If she has them. I’ll keep you posted. ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Would she move them the way domestic cats do? She might do that anyway after awhile. Strays move their kittens. Don’t know if it’s a survival thing or they need a cleaner place. If you make it uncomfortable she might carry them elsewhere. I know they don’t like Vicks which has menthol and camphor.

crankyoldlady on May 1, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Hi Bmore

Maybe contact this fella, a certified trapper…he will trap and relocate if they are not infected:

http://www.easternwolferscoyotetrappers.com/index.html

By the way, been meaning to alert you to this:
http://falconcam.tumblr.com
Peregrine falcon chicks in Richmond,VA!

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 9:34 AM

No Honest Lib yet?

OmahaConservative on May 1, 2014 at 9:44 AM

PeskyPuddyTat on May 1, 2014 at 4:38 AM

Thanks. I’ll give that a try. Has to smell better than diesel or kerosene. Plus I don’t want to separate the female from the cubs. If she has them. I’ll keep you posted. ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Such good people! Looking forward to the next reports.

HonestLib worries me a lot. I hope it’s just the connection.

If it’s yer back, good friend/mensch, please do get well very soon.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2014 at 11:53 AM

crankyoldlady on May 1, 2014 at 9:34 AM

When PeskyPuddyTat mentioned her solution, vicks vapor rub was the first thing to come to mind. Lolz! I mean, who likes that stuff. ; ) I’m gonna try to make her lose interest in my place with the whole smell thing first. Even before I contact DNR. My big concern is that if she is trapped and relocated the cubs will perish. I don’t want that. Thanks! ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Thanks Brat. See above comment about relocating her. ; ) My work place, not the one in the forest with the cat. The other place, had two baby Peregrine falcon chicks this season. They are and have been flying for about a month now. Absolutely terrorizing the areas birds, squirrels, rabbits and such. I have taken to firing blanks at them when they are around. Hopeful they will move on. Two days ago we found this. I called my friend at the Audubon Society chapter. She said that there will be one pissed off New Yorker. Apparently it was a racing pigeon, valuable as well. It happens. ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Where he is, he should be fine, weather wise at least. Hopefully he is on holiday or busy wrangling someone, something or another. I don’t think HL knows nor thought to leave any a note. You know, the way I do. ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Yikes, that poor pigeon! Reminds me of the time one of my feral cats left 4 bunny feet on my patio. Just the feet, no sign of anything else!

Maybe you can get a wildlife rescuer or rehabilitator to help locate/relocate the cubs. In my experiences with feral cats and other small wildlife situations, I have found those types of individuals or groups provide better advice/assistance than DNR or other govt. agencies.
By rescuing/removing the cubs, momma and daddy may move on to have their next litter elsewhere.

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM

By rescuing/removing the cubs, momma and daddy may move on to have their next litter elsewhere.

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM

I thought about it. I think for now I’ll just try the smelly stuff to keep her away and see how well that works. Ringo won’t like being inside, oh well. Better inside the house than the Bobby. ; ) Besides my dumb luck if I have her moved someone will shoot her, (them), I’ll keep you posted. ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Yep, it is a difficult decision on how much one should get involved or let nature take its course. “Mother Nature is a mad scientist!”

Good luck, will be on the lookout for your updates.

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I didn’t see the beginning of this story so I don’t know all the particulars. If it’s a female and she’s having babies she’ll move on eventually

One of those wildlife rescuers would know how to also rescue the babies if it is known where they are.

crankyoldlady on May 1, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 9:34 AM

P.S. Brat, I would never use http://www.easternwolferscoyotetrappers.com/index.html, for any reason. Legtraps are lazy and cruel. I’d rather just shoot them. A single round and they are gone.

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Oh no, sorry I didn’t mean to offend.

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Thanks. I’ll give that a try. Has to smell better than diesel or kerosene. Plus I don’t want to separate the female from the cubs. If she has them. I’ll keep you posted. ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Awesome! Will watch for your reports. :-D

http://youtu.be/VBdSqk78nHw

PeskyPuddyTat on May 1, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Oh no, sorry I didn’t mean to offend.

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Not offended at all Brat. I just don’t need to torment them first. Lolz! ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM

PeskyPuddyTat on May 1, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Lolz! Tom Jones was quite the phenomena!

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM

One of the reasons I took interest in your dilemma is that one of my cats is a pixie bob breed. He looks something like this.

Perhaps a distant cousin of your wild visitor.

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Good approach, Bmore.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Brat on May 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM

He’s cute! I bet he’s a real lover boy. Ringo isn’t smart, but he is a real lover boy. ; ) Bobby must be too or she would be more frightened of me. Lolz!

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM

I always try. Keep ya posted. ; )

Bmore on May 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM

The cat is characterized as intelligent and loyal.

Lies!

LIES!

j/k cute cat. Looks kinda like the kitty from the “heavy breathing” meme.

Murphy9 on May 1, 2014 at 6:20 PM

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