Kasich up 10 in early Ohio gubernatorial poll

posted at 4:01 pm on April 30, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Recently, a friend asked me to assess the prospects for the 2016 cycle, especially in regard to the Republican nomination. I predicted that the GOP nominee would come from the gubernatorial ranks, as voters look for both a track record of executive success and an outside-the-Beltway approach — which may be particularly needed if Democrats actually nominate Hillary Clinton. We ran down the list of Republican governors, including Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal, Susana Martinez, and Mike Pence. My friend asked about John Kasich of Ohio, but I responded by saying that he may not be strong enough at home to do Republicans much good in a state they have to win.

That turned out to be a little premature, at least according to the latest Survey USA poll taken in Ohio. The state holds its primary next week, and Kasich faces no challenge from his own party. He has a ten-point lead over his most likely Democratic challenger, although not quite to the 50% mark of safety for an incumbent:

Heading into the final week before the 05/06/14 Primary:

46% approve of the job that Republican John Kasich is doing as Governor. 39% disapprove.
33% have a favorable opinion of Democratic candidate Ed Fitzgerald; 23% have an unfavorable opinion; significantly: 45% have no opinion of Fitzgerald.
46% of voters say Ohio is on the right track; 43% say Ohio is on the wrong track.

In a hypothetical election today for Governor of Ohio, 46% would vote for incumbent Republican Kasich, 36% would vote for Democratic challenger Fitzgerald. In a separate hypothetical election today for Governor, 50% would vote for Kasich if he were opposed by Democratic challenger Larry Ealy, who gets 25%.

Kasich is winning independents against both challengers in Survey USA’s match-ups. He has an eight-point edge over Fitzgerald, 38/26, and a 27-point lead over Ealy, 40/13. He has leads among men and women against both Democrats, although his edge on Fitzgerald is within the MOE at 41/37.

The top issues for Ohio voters next week are job creation (28%), health care (17%) and taxes (16%). Kasich clobbers Fitzgerald, his likely general-election opponent, on all three: 45/36, 54/31, and 64/17, respectively. The health-care numbers show the impact of ObamaCare on Ohio, and that can’t be good news for Democrats in the midterms or for 2016, either.

Furthermore, Kasich has a pretty good lead in fundraising over either Democrat, with just six months to go:

Gov. John Kasich’s reelection campaign is well ahead of his main Democratic challenger, with more than $8.5 million in cash on hand.

The total was more than five times that reported by Cuyahoga County Executive Ed FitzGerald on pre-primary campaign finance filings April 24. …

Kasich’s campaign reported nearly $1.5 million in contributions and spending of about $863,000. …

FitzGerald reported more than $642,000 in contributions during the period, including $107,000 added by the Ohio Democratic Party a day earlier.

His campaign spent nearly $574,000, leaving an available balance of $1.5 million.

Democrats may be forced to spend money in Ohio to boost Fitzgerald, but the prospects don’t look promising. Kasich is still under 50% but the issues and the passion lean in his direction. National Democratic committees will be plugging a lot of holes this fall, mainly in the Senate in an attempt to retain control over the upper chamber. Ohio is critical for their presidential hopes in 2016, but a Kasich re-election probably won’t hurt them as much in that regard as losing the Senate in this election cycle will.

Republicans have chosen Columbus [see update below] as one of its finalists for the 2016 convention. A solid Kasich performance this year might put him back on the map in the presidential cycle in more ways than one.

Update: Actually, Columbus was eliminated in a previous round, but Cincinnati and Cleveland are still in play. Thanks to Nick Mascari on Twitter for the reminder.


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I recently moved out of Ohio so I won’t have to worry about voting for him.

And I would never vote for him for POTUS.

He expanded Medicaid (while claiming the expansion had nothing to do with ObamaCare) and, as a member Congress, he voted for the assault weapons ban in the 90′s. I haven’t heard him take a position on amnesty, but I can guess where he’d stand on that issue as well.

Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM

I do like me some John Kasich.

But to be fair, I have to like John Kasich. He’s a fellow Deadhead…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM

The news we’re getting in Texas is dems dropped supporting abortion Barbie for governor to go all in in Ohio, Michigan and Florida.

DanMan on April 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Let’s just keep on trucking him in Ohio…

de rigueur on April 30, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Kasich can be a strong contender for 2016… He needs to defend his dumb action of accepting the Medicaid expansion via Obamacare…

mnjg on April 30, 2014 at 4:17 PM

A solid Kasich performance this year might put him back on the map in the presidential cycle in more ways than one.


No
… it won’t. See below:

He expanded Medicaid (while claiming the expansion had nothing to do with ObamaCare) and, as a member Congress, he voted for the assault weapons ban in the 90′s. I haven’t heard him take a position on amnesty, but I can guess where he’d stand on that issue as well.

Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM


And
then there’s his COMPLETE failure on trying to rein in the public employee unions.

But even more important … and you wouldn’t be able to figure this out in 100 years, Ed:

Professional politicians et al will NEVER support a governor who did NOTHING to limit rampant voter fraud in THE swing state in 2012.

The wouldn’t even give him the VP slot – because he CAN’T be counted on to deliver his OWN state.

PolAgnostic on April 30, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Interesting. My impression was that he was stinking it up in Ohio.

Texas Zombie on April 30, 2014 at 4:19 PM

We ran down the list of Republican governors, including Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal, Susana Martinez, and Mike Pence. My friend asked about John Kasich of Ohio, but I responded by saying that he may not be strong enough at home to do Republicans much good in a state they have to win.

Interesting that you did not include the Republican governor with the strongest resume of all and by far and this is Rick Perry… But of course you folks in the political punditry focus more on debate performances, zingers, buzzwords, and empty rhetoric than actual achievements… And guess who we had a President that fit all these meaningless categories for good governing… Yep, his name is Barack Obama…

mnjg on April 30, 2014 at 4:20 PM

And I would never vote for him for POTUS.
Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM

So you’ll be voting for Hillary?

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Mustard-colored pants

Schadenfreude on April 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM

All Republicans are going to look good in 2014, except those that are criminals, nut jobs, or they are running in a crazy super blue state.

If that is our criteria every GOP governor that gets elected in 2014 will look like a future presidential nominee.

William Eaton on April 30, 2014 at 4:23 PM

I will vote Walker over John because Walker KICK THE UNIONS BEHIND.

John should just not run because he has no shot at all.

BroncosRock on April 30, 2014 at 4:24 PM

But to be fair, I have to like John Kasich. He’s a fellow Deadhead…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM

I once heard him talk about the number of Dead concerts he has gone to. Some silly number.

He is doing a pretty solid job for Ohio – and he is very likeable.

jake-the-goose on April 30, 2014 at 4:24 PM

I will vote Walker over John because Walker KICK THE UNIONS BEHIND.

BroncosRock on April 30, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Scott Walker – best GOP Governor in the USA – awesome story of success

jake-the-goose on April 30, 2014 at 4:25 PM

I have given up on political means to fix this.

Voters don’t care. The so called Tea Party is dead, and the Progressives are in charge.

A political and or economic collapse will have to come.

PappyD61 on April 30, 2014 at 4:27 PM

I really do not see a point of John running for president. What things has he done in Ohio to be considered presidential?

BroncosRock on April 30, 2014 at 4:27 PM

He’s the best we got for Ohio governor, but definitely no for president. He and the GOP legislature completely screwed up Scott Walker-like changes to PEUs a few years ago. Whereas Walker pulled it off, Ohio lost a referendum 61-39, largely because PEUs convinced older folks that firefighters would show up to their homes to put out fires.

Fortunately, Dems gave him a gift this past Thanksgiving when their nominee (Fitzgerald from Cleveland) fingered for his Lt.gov a state senator from Cincinnati (Eric Kearney) whose wife is friends with MO or BO from Harvard law days. Turns out the couple had all kinds of federal income tax liens (high six figures). Fitzgerald looked pathetic when, after about 10 days, he had to drop Kearney and he picked some pro-abortion woman from around Dayton.

One other thing. After Congress, Kasich worked at an investment back–I think it was Bear Stearns. In the governor’s race four years ago, Dems tried to blame Kasich and his two-man office in Columbus for the Great Recession, but it did’t prevail. Still, I’d rather have someone else.

BuckeyeSam on April 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Putin 2016.

antisense on April 30, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Hold the convention in Cincinnati, and run Scott Walker & Susana Martinez. Both have proven track records. Susana Martinez’s personal story is excellent and she is both female and Latina. Do not under any circumstances run Gov. Kasich — he is good as a governor but not good for the national field (see comments above)

talking_mouse on April 30, 2014 at 4:36 PM

And I would never vote for him for POTUS.
Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM

So you’ll be voting for Hillary?

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM

I’ll leave it blank or vote 3rd party if someone catches my eye.

Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Hold the convention in Cincinnati, and run Scott Walker & Susana Martinez. Both have proven track records. Susana Martinez’s personal story is excellent and she is both female and Latina. Do not under any circumstances run Gov. Kasich — he is good as a governor but not good for the national field (see comments above)

talking_mouse on April 30, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Ah, yes. Cincinnati. Home of 6-time Obama voter (in one election) Melowese Richardson. Makes for some fine GOP optics.

Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 4:39 PM

I once heard him talk about the number of Dead concerts he has gone to. Some silly number.

He is doing a pretty solid job for Ohio – and he is very likeable.

jake-the-goose on April 30, 2014 at 4:24 PM

As long as that number is more than “1″, and less than “Eleventy million”, nothing silly about it!!!

“Their walls, are built
Of Cannonballs;
Their motto is
“Don’t Tread on Me”…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 4:40 PM

I’ll leave it blank or vote 3rd party if someone catches my eye.

Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 4:36 PM

That should work out well.

Lets see would we have a better chance getting a handle on our 17.55 trillion dollar debt with Hillary or Kasich?

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Hold the convention in Cincinnati, and run Scott Walker & Susana Martinez. Both have proven track records. Susana Martinez’s personal story is excellent and she is both female and Latina. Do not under any circumstances run Gov. Kasich — he is good as a governor but not good for the national field (see comments above)

talking_mouse on April 30, 2014 at 4:36 PM

A Walker/Martinez ticket sounds great. I also think the GOP should choose Ohio for their convention.

cat_owner on April 30, 2014 at 4:45 PM

John Kasich is a Democrat, and I just can’t bring myself to care what his election prospects might be.

MTF on April 30, 2014 at 4:46 PM

That should work out well.

Lets see would we have a better chance getting a handle on our 17.55 trillion dollar debt with Hillary or Kasich?

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 4:42 PM

I’m gonna go with “neither”.

Kasich once prided himself on being a budget hawk, but the Medicaid expansion fiasco has put the lie to that.

Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 4:48 PM

I will vote Walker over John because Walker KICK THE UNIONS BEHIND.

BroncosRock on April 30, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Scott Walker – best GOP Governor in the USA – awesome story of success

jake-the-goose on April 30, 2014 at 4:25 PM

It would be enjoyable to see Walker in the run just because of the spitting and sputtering rage that the greedy union goons would explode with.

slickwillie2001 on April 30, 2014 at 4:51 PM

It’s not just the Medicaid expansion fiasco, its also this prize Kasich quote. Kasich stinks.

MTF on April 30, 2014 at 4:53 PM

mnjg on April 30, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Perry didn’t come up because Perry didn’t come up – it wasn’t a comprehensive conversation anyway, just a tangent to a larger conversation on 2014 and 2016 politics. (Chris Christie didn’t come up either, or Jeb Bush.) I’ve written about Perry being in the mix for 2016 in almost every post in which I address the topic (last time here) … which aren’t too many, because I’m not terribly interested in 2016 at this point in the midterm cycle. I mentioned the conversation because my friend brought up Kasich, and I was surprised by the reference. Some out there are clearly thinking about him, although probably not many. I’m actually a big fan of Rick Perry, and hope he throws his hat in the ring.

As far as sneering at “political punditry,” what did you expect to find here — advice on crocheting tea cozies?

Ed Morrissey on April 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM

He is paid for by the union. He couldn’t stand up to them.
very weak.

weedisgood on April 30, 2014 at 4:59 PM

It’s not just the Medicaid expansion fiasco, its also this prize Kasich quote. Kasich stinks.

MTF on April 30, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Missed that one. I had just moved out of state around that time. And yet I’m supposed to blindly follow anybody with an ‘R’ behind their name because they’re gonna fix everything.

Bitter Clinger on April 30, 2014 at 5:00 PM

If it was up to the purists on HA we would never see the white house again.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Ed Morrissey on April 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Thanks for the clarifications… I agree that it is far too early to be obsessed with 2016 when we have 2014 elections six months from now… Let us just hope that in 2015/2016 we do not get obsessed with the stupid and meaningless debates as in 2011/2012…

mnjg on April 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM

It would be enjoyable to see Walker in the run just because of the spitting and sputtering rage that the greedy union goons would explode with.

slickwillie2001 on April 30, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Facts are stubborn things.

jake-the-goose on April 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Kasich might have lost his union-busting referendum, but Ohio is a tougher state to govern as a conservative (with the deep-blue cities of Cleveland, Toledo, and Youngstown) than Wisconsin. Kasich does have an impressive record of re-balancing Ohio’s budget (after larger deficits than Scott Walker inherited in Wisconsin) while cutting state taxes.

Kasich’s re-election chances looked shaky about two years ago, but a four-year term is enough to turn a state around and claim credit for it. Regarding his presidential chances, Kasich himself has repeatedly ducked the question and concentrated on what he can do for Ohio.

On balance, Scott Walker would seem a better bet in 2016 than Kasich, but if Kasich is re-elected Governor by a comfortable margin in 2014, his popularity could help the eventual Republican nominee win Ohio, if Kasich campaigned with him. He would also be helpful as a convention speaker if the convention were held in Ohio.

Steve Z on April 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM

He blew the public employees union reforms when he could’ve gotten maybe 75% of what he wanted if he had just negotiated with them but instead rammed through the bill from a frosh state senator with little debate. He blew Obamacare by embracing the Medicaid expansion.

He is good on fracking though and he’s made the state more business friendly so there are now more jobs here.

All in all, an adequate governor but not quite presidential material. Honestly, if the Dems could’ve found one of those extinct moderate democrats who’s competent, Kasich would probably be in trouble right now.

Wisdom_of_Homer on April 30, 2014 at 5:04 PM

But of course you folks in the political punditry focus more on debate performances, zingers, buzzwords, and empty rhetoric than actual achievements… And guess who we had a President that fit all these meaningless categories for good governing… Yep, his name is Barack Obama…

mnjg

You pretty much contradicted your own argument, lol.

A+

But yeah, I guess if we pretend he didn’t stroke out on stage for a couple of minutes, the democrats will be nice and forget about it too, and voters will never hear about it again.

xblade on April 30, 2014 at 5:06 PM

As far as sneering at “political punditry,” what did you expect to find here — advice on crocheting tea cozies?

Ed Morrissey on April 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM

No, but now that you mention it…

Wisdom_of_Homer on April 30, 2014 at 5:10 PM

If it was up to the purists on HA we would never see the white house again.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM

OMG, this election Bu!!$hit is starting early. It isn’t being about purist. If you aren’t fiscally right or socially right; then you aren’t RIGHT. I am so sick of but you must vote for X,Y, Z or you get A. Guess what? We have had a majority in the house- ain’t done $hit. To deal with the 17 trillion dollar deficit, we have to take extreme measures; EXPANDING any government program to get elected isn’t it. So who cares if we go over the cliff fast or slow– we are still going over the cliff.

melle1228 on April 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM

That should work out well.

Lets see would we have a better chance getting a handle on our 17.55 trillion dollar debt with Hillary or Kasich?

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Idiots should never ask questions they don’t know the answer to.

Who got the better handle on government spending? Bill Clinton or George W. Bush?

If you say Bush, you fail the course, pupil.

That’s not an endorsement of Clinton, but it is a cautionary tale for those like you who think politics is about picking between obvious and easy certitudes.

If it was up to the purists on HA we would never see the white house again.

And if it was up to a sneezy little batboys like you, there’d be no reason to ever care about winning the White House again.

Pincher Martin on April 30, 2014 at 5:19 PM

So who cares if we go over the cliff fast or slow– we are still going over the cliff.

melle1228 on April 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Great attitude, lets just give the F up. You sound like my bother-in-law. Pure pessimism.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Great attitude, lets just give the F up. You sound like my bother-in-law. Pure pessimism.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM

And you sound like a Pollyanna.

Pincher Martin on April 30, 2014 at 5:23 PM

All I care about is an(R) next to the name of the house and senate leader and the President.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:27 PM

All I care about is an (R) next to the name of the house and senate leader and the President.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Exactly. That’s because you don’t care what happens to the country. As long as the captain’s name ends with an (R) … well, you’re just happy to be in his show, even if the show is called Titanic.

Makes things easy for you, doesn’t you? No thinking involved. Just hand it off to Jeb, Marco, Chris, or Huntsman, and they’ll bring it home for you. You can just fetch their coffee and shine their shoes.

Partisan Buttboys are the locust plaque of modern politics.

Pincher Martin on April 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Great attitude, lets just give the F up. You sound like my bother-in-law. Pure pessimism.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM

I’m not a pessimist, I am a realist.

melle1228 on April 30, 2014 at 5:34 PM

And it was Partisan Buttboys like you who got us into this trouble. When George W. Bush was making bad decisions, you guys were the ones to defend every single thing he did. He had an (R) behind his name and we were in a war. Or so your reasoning went.

Being a sycophant apparently is a lifelong, addictive habit.

Pincher Martin on April 30, 2014 at 5:36 PM

I do like me some John Kasich.

But to be fair, I have to like John Kasich. He’s a fellow Deadhead…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM

When I think of John Galt I don’t think of a bunch of hippies slowly killing themselves with soft drugs.

John Kasich is a moron. Now i know why.

Bill C on April 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM

And if it was up to a sneezy little batboy like you,

Pincher Martin on April 30, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Okay, I don’t know what sneezy little batboy means, but I really, really like it.

Dolce Far Niente on April 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM

When I think of John Galt I don’t think of a bunch of hippies slowly killing themselves with soft drugs.

John Kasich is a moron. Now i know why.

Bill C on April 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM

John Kasich is a GOP governor of a state mighty important to the GOP, who is looking like he is set to cruise to reelection.

I’m sure he’d be interested in seeing your credentials. If only for a chuckle.

And Ann Coulter, Tucker Carlson, JK and I might know a little something about Randian Objectivism that you do not…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Partisan Buttboys are the locust plaque of modern politics.

Pincher Martin on April 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Partisan Buttboy is better than troll.

How did you feel when you woke up the morning after Obama won in 2012?
I don’t want to feel that bad again.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:49 PM

How did you feel when you woke up the morning after Obama won in 2012?
I don’t want to feel that bad again.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Freakin’ A…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 5:50 PM

How did you feel when you woke up the morning after Obama won in 2012?
I don’t want to feel that bad again.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Freakin’ A…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Better than I feel everyday that our house majority does nothing. Better than I feel everyday that our party talks about amnesty etc. things completely against the Repub platform. I can live with a D in the whitehouse, as long as the REST of the opposition actually does its job. If we are going to just have a R who the Congress rubberstamps and passes “feel” good measures that don’t do anything about the deficit; It really doesn’t make a difference.

melle1228 on April 30, 2014 at 5:53 PM

melle1228 on April 30, 2014 at 5:53 P=

Please do me a favor,take some time off,maybe a little vacation. You can’t keep up this kind of intensity
you’ll implode at some point.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Better than I feel everyday that our house majority does nothing.

melle1228 on April 30, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Think of the House majority now as your polio vaccination. Just because you don’t see the effects, doesn’t mean it isn’t doing it’s job.

Tell us, just now much worse do you think you would feel if we didn’t have that House majority…?

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 6:01 PM

All I care about is an(R) next to the name of the house and senate leader and the President.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Brainless team-spirit twits just like you who only care about the letter next to the name elected Barack “Its the Republicans’ fault” Obama, Congressman Hank “Guam Tipping Over”, Congressman Sheila Jackson “Neil Armstrong on Mars” Lee, Harry “Bundy is a Domestic Terrorist” Reid, John “Whacko birds” McCain and a whole host of other toxic politicians.

Good for you. Something to be proud of, I say, voting without thought or conviction. Makes life easier for your handlers.

Dolce Far Niente on April 30, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Kasich is winning independents against both challengers in Survey USA’s match-ups. He has an eight-point edge over Fitzgerald, 38/26,

Wouldn’t that be a 12-point lead among independents? Unless the Indie preference for Kasich was 36/28…

Steve Z on April 30, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Though he will probably win without me…he will have to win without me. His caving to Obamacare is too much. I had voted for him as a rep since I was around 18.

CW on April 30, 2014 at 6:06 PM

One of perhaps more than one problem is that Kasich is a big global warming climate change nut, parroting the leftist talking points. Not good at all:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/04/10/kasich-speaks-of-climate-change.html

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/04/10/461594/ohio-republican-gov-john-kasich-i-believe-there-is-a-problem-with-our-climate/

anotherJoe on April 30, 2014 at 6:06 PM

How did you feel when you woke up the morning after Obama won in 2012?

I wasn’t terribly surprised. A lot of that election result was baked into the cake long before 2012.

Romney was a decent candidate. I voted for him. But he ran too safe of a campaign and he always – from the very beginning – had an uphill run to win the presidency. He faced an incumbent who had a united party behind him. Romney also had to deal with his own party, which still can’t face up to its past mistakes.

Romney didn’t have the originality or the creativity to get past those problems. He was a good man and a capable executive, but the public was right to sense that he didn’t have any answers to what is ailing America.

I don’t want to feel that bad again.

Yeah, but you’re doing everything to ensure that we will feel that way again.

Instead of focusing on what is good for the country, you focus on what is good for the party, and that was the mistake that got us into this trouble in the first place. Focus on solutions and let the partisan stuff take care of itself by allowing our candidates to start introducing to the public, and debating, those solutions.

But what you’d rather do is sneak into office by hoping the country hates the Democrats more than it hates us. Well, that’s always a possibility. The Democrats are doing their very best to help us out in that regard.

But we’re still left with governing after a victory, and right now the current crop of Republicans look pathetic. With a few small exceptions, they don’t promise to give the country anything that much different from what Bush gave us during his tenure – and that was what got us into this trouble in the first place.

Pincher Martin on April 30, 2014 at 6:07 PM

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Definitely fair points John. I agree with everything you’ve said, insofar as it relates to Ohio; I just prefer Kasich stay in Columbus, abandon his idea of running for President, and leave the field open for Walker.

MTF on April 30, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Better than I feel everyday that our house majority does nothing. Better than I feel everyday that our party talks about amnesty etc. things completely against the Repub platform. I can live with a D in the whitehouse, as long as the REST of the opposition actually does its job.

The main problem with a D in the White House is that it takes 60% in both Houses of Congress to overcome that veto pen. With an R in the White House, it only takes 50% to get something done.

Don’t blame the House majority for doing nothing. They’ve tried to do plenty, but with Harry Reid refusing to bring anything to the floor of the Senate, what can the House majority do? They did manage to slam the brakes on Obama’s far-left agenda of his first two years…

Steve Z on April 30, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Good for you. Something to be proud of, I say, voting without thought or conviction. Makes life easier for your handlers.

Dolce Far Niente on April 30, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Exactly, and I’m going to pick my Derby horse out of a hat with numbers of the 20 horses.
Hey Dolce: I can do cube roots with logarithms. Can you?

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Kasich totally screwed up the PEU reforms. They left cops and firefighters attached to those reforms while Walker took them out. He has balanced the budget and defended abortion clinics. I will vote for him this fall. Buy as prez, no! I do hope he runs though. Jeb vs Kasich vs Christie. Make the establishment jerks go nuts!!!

anchorman on April 30, 2014 at 6:12 PM

One of perhaps more than one problem is that Kasich is a big global warming climate change nut, parroting the leftist talking points. Not good at all:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/04/10/kasich-speaks-of-climate-change.html

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/04/10/461594/ohio-republican-gov-john-kasich-i-believe-there-is-a-problem-with-our-climate/

anotherJoe on April 30, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Ugghhhh.

And he used religion to support Medicaid expansion.

Gov. Kasich said he recently told a state legislator, “I respect the fact that you believe in small government. I do too. I also happen to know that you’re a person of faith.”

“Now, when you die and get to the, get to the, uh, to the meeting with St. Peter, he’s probably not gonna ask you much about what you did about keeping government small, but he’s going to ask you what you did for the poor,” Kasich said. “Better have a good answer.”

CW on April 30, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Kasich totally screwed up the PEU reforms. They left cops and firefighters attached to those reforms while Walker took them out.

Great point. How he did not figure that out is beyond me.

He has balanced the budget and defended abortion clinics…..

anchorman on April 30, 2014 at 6:12 PM

What’s this about the clinics?

CW on April 30, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Kasich isn’t doing what he needs to do to run for president but he isn’t running for president, he’s running Ohio. And he’s doing a good job as are most of the states run by Republicans. Ohio is doing well and would be doing much better if it weren’t for the gangsters in the White House. The Republican governors are swimming upstream. I don’t think Kasich could win in 2016 but we need to stop thinking about 2016 and focus on the here and now or there won’t be an election in 2016.

crankyoldlady on April 30, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Kasich is a collaborator with the Obama regime.

ANY Republican governor who takes expanded Medicaid funds is a collaborator, especially when he subverts his own legislature to do it.

No, thanks.

Kasich, like Bush, Christie, Huckabee, and Santorum, is another unacceptable Big Government GOP nominee. I’d vote third party.

DRayRaven on April 30, 2014 at 6:26 PM

John Kasich is a GOP governor of a state mighty important to the GOP, who is looking like he is set to cruise to reelection.

I’m sure he’d be interested in seeing your credentials. If only for a chuckle.

And Ann Coulter, Tucker Carlson, JK and I might know a little something about Randian Objectivism that you do not…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM

I went to Kenyon College, chuckles. Where did you go to school?

Bill C on April 30, 2014 at 6:27 PM

I went to Kenyon College, chuckles. Where did you go to school?

Bill C on April 30, 2014 at 6:27 PM

University of Delaware, baby!! Go Blue Hens!!

Of course, I headed west for grad school…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Definitely fair points John. I agree with everything you’ve said, insofar as it relates to Ohio; I just prefer Kasich stay in Columbus, abandon his idea of running for President, and leave the field open for Walker.

MTF on April 30, 2014 at 6:09 PM

The only problem I have with Walker, and with apologies to Nigel Farage and Hermann van Rompuy, is he has the charisma of a damp rag (although to be fair, his appearance is better than a bank clerk’s). While I respect his achievements in WI immensely, for the competence in government argument, I’d just as soon go with Rick Perry.

At least he can set a room on fire…

JohnGalt23 on April 30, 2014 at 6:43 PM

I voted for Kasich in 2010. I have voted GOP in every Presidential election since (& including) 1980.

I will not vote for Kasich this November, period.

Do not settle for him as the GOP Presidential or Veep nominee. He will not only disappoint you, he will sanctimoniously taunt you as he does so.

Romney (who I don’t want to be the nominee again) would have been 100 times more faithful to conservatives than this guy.

NCC on April 30, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Good for you. Something to be proud of, I say, voting without thought or conviction. Makes life easier for your handlers.

Dolce Far Niente on April 30, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Exactly, and I’m going to pick my Derby horse out of a hat with numbers of the 20 horses.
Hey Dolce: I can do cube roots with logarithms. Can you?

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 6:12 PM

What you just said is that you’ll pick any horse with 3 white socks. You’re not going to worry about bloodlines, how the horse has performed at that distance previously, whether he’s good in mud, who the jock is- nope, just 3 white socks.

Stick with that if you like, but don’t pretend its a good basis for a bet. Or a Republic.

And what’s with the “Look at me! I’m smarter than you!!” jibe? Trying to claim you do cube roots via logs in your head without a calculator?
Want to compare internet IQ scores?
Want to claim you graduated Harvard Law?

Dolce Far Niente on April 30, 2014 at 6:57 PM

I voted for Kasich in 2010, but won’t vote for him this fall.

He has the “strength” to side with liberals, and rather sanctimoniously at that.

Romney would have been 100 times more faithful to conservatives than this guy.

Do not settle for him as the Presidential or VP nominee.

NCC on April 30, 2014 at 7:01 PM

trying to claim you do cube roots via logs in your head without a calculator?

Of course not, I’d use a slide-ruler. Don’t know what internet IQ scores are.

LeMoyne College (1972) major chemistry,minor philosophy.

The Derby with 20 horses is a cavalry charge with the best horse probably not winning so the normal tools for handicapping fall short.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Of course not, I’d use a slide-ruler. Don’t know what internet IQ scores are.

LeMoyne College (1972) major chemistry,minor philosophy.

The Derby with 20 horses is a cavalry charge with the best horse probably not winning so the normal tools for handicapping fall short.

jmtham156 on April 30, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Slide-ruler?

Man, you are SO qualified to tell everyone who to vote for and how to pick a horse! And smart, boy howdy. Usin’ one a them slip-sticks.

(FYI; Internet IQ scores are those astounding claims anonymous posters make about their intelligence, college achievements, business acumen, ability to calculate cube roots, and so on. A synonym for unprovable.)

Instead of telling me how amazing you are, please defend the “I don’t care about anything but the R” theory of electoral politics for me.

This means you will also be defending No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, McCain-Feingold and other sterling progressive achievements of the R’s, which perhaps you agree with, or perhaps you think are somehow better than leftist progressive achievements, because R.

Typically, “centrist” Republicans are the ones who don’t care about actual conservatism, and are happy as long as Team Red wins the pennant.

Would you say that’s a good description of yourself? Establishment Republican?

Dolce Far Niente on April 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM

He needs to defend his dumb action of accepting the Medicaid expansion via Obamacare…

mnjg on April 30, 2014 at 4:17 PM

…that crapped him with me…because it was at a critical time when he did it…plus he is afraid of the unions.

KOOLAID2 on April 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM

All in all, an adequate governor but not quite presidential material. Honestly, if the Dems could’ve found one of those extinct moderate democrats who’s competent, Kasich would probably be in trouble right now.

Wisdom_of_Homer on April 30, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Ohio’s had nothing but adequate governors since the days of Warren G. Harding. And, for as bad as the Ohio GOPe is, the Ohio Dems are just as incompetent.

Still, Fitzgerald will benefit mightily from the galvanized PEU sector who hates Kasich’s guts to the core. That lead will not last. As for me, the race is a Hobson’s Choice… Kasich and Fitzgerald are indistinguishable from each other.

Myron Falwell on April 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

CW….. With the abortion clinics he signed a law that puts Planned Parenthood last on the list for dollars for women’s health clinics.

anchorman on April 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Myron I disagree. Fitzgerald fever is not catching on. Where as in 98 there was a lot if excitement for Lee Fisher, the Dem nominee, and especially in 06 for Strickland.

anchorman on April 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Definitely not a top tier candidate. Probably not even second tier. More likely upper third tier along with Jeb Bush.

will77jeff on April 30, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Myron I disagree. Fitzgerald fever is not catching on. Where as in 98 there was a lot if excitement for Lee Fisher, the Dem nominee, and especially in 06 for Strickland.

anchorman on April 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

But if the PEU members vote in lock-step fashion (as they did to repeal SB5 vis-a-vis the out of state bankrolled “We Are Ohio” cacophony, which Bill Cunningham endorsed) then it’s another story.

Strickland, as with virtually every Dem who ran for state office in 2006 (sans Mary Taylor) was the beneficiary of a relentless drumbeat of media reportage against Bob Taft and the Noe Coin Scandal.

And no one should use “excitement” and “Lee Fisher” in the same sentence.

Myron Falwell on April 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

It’s FitzGerald, thank you very much.

myrenovations on April 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Kasich is responsible for the Clinton “balanced” budget. He’s the guy in the Gingrich “Contract with America” House that wrote the Budget.

That being said, Ohio is a bellwether state for a reason. And that makes it difficult for strong Conservatives to win state-wide races. Remember, Kucinich, Boehner, Glenn, Metzembaum all hail(ed) from Ohio.

Even though I’m a nearly lifer from O-H! I-O!, I haven’t been fully read up on Kasich’s governorship to comment on his Conservative bona-fides. Just giving a little perspective, though.

John Hitchcock on May 1, 2014 at 5:09 AM

No thanks on Kasich.

Walker not perfect worried about immigration), but best proven fighter we have. It’s gonna take a fighter to undo/unwind BHO.

If the Rs hold the convention in Cleveland, given the Ds ability for fraudulent voting there, we just might find Hillary to be the Rs selection after convention votes are counted.

Carnac on May 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM