Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Why aren’t we also outraged that Donald Sterling was secretly recorded?

posted at 11:21 am on April 29, 2014 by Allahpundit

This isn’t a defense of Sterling, whom he hopes loses the team, just a plenty-of-blame-to-go-around scolding — and a good one, too. Read it all. He blames Sterling for old-school bigotry, the media for ignoring Sterling’s history of racist behavior until it was served up on a silver platter last weekend, and Sterling’s girlfriend for violating his privacy by recording their conversations. That last bit is an interesting analog to the reaction among some righties after Cliven Bundy said what he said about slavery and the welfare state. Just because the man holds outre views, Bundy’s defenders argued, doesn’t mean that the feds’ land-use policies are correct. Abdul-Jabbar’s making the same point about Sterling’s privacy, a small rebuke to the idea that when it comes to punishing a cardinal social sin like prejudice, the ends justify the means. Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks, is worried about the same thing.

“Again, there’s no excuse for his positions. There’s no excuse for what he said. There’s no excuse for anybody to support racism. There’s no place for it in our league, but there’s a very, very, very slippery slope.

“If it’s about racism and we’re ready to kick people out of the league, OK? Then what about homophobia? What about somebody who doesn’t like a particular religion. What about somebody who’s anti-semitic What about a xenophobe?

“In this country, people are allowed to be morons.”

Here’s Kareem. Just one question: Was Sterling’s privacy violated?

And now the poor guy’s girlfriend (undoubtedly ex-girlfriend now) is on tape cajoling him into revealing his racism. Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out. She was like a sexy nanny playing “pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.” She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.

They caught big game on a slow news day, so they put his head on a pike, dubbed him Lord of the Flies, and danced around him whooping…

Shouldn’t we be equally angered by the fact that his private, intimate conversation was taped and then leaked to the media? Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way? Although the impact is similar to Mitt Romney’s comments that were secretly taped, the difference is that Romney was giving a public speech. The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime. We didn’t steal the cake but we’re all gorging ourselves on it.

“I hope whoever made this illegal tape is sent to prison,” he concludes. Is the tape illegal, though? Well, California is a two-party consent state when it comes to wiretapping; if Sterling didn’t consent, his girlfriend could indeed do time for recording him. The curveball here is that she claims he did consent. Supposedly, she has more than 100 hours of audio of him rambling about God knows what, all of which was done with his approval because, she says … he had trouble remembering things and used the tapes as memory-fresheners. Which raises a new legal/ethical question: Does an 80-year-old man with memory problems have the capacity to “consent” within the meaning of the wiretapping law? (Follow-up: Should an 80-year-old man who needs audio to remember things he said be running an NBA franchise?) That’s not to suggest that Sterling’s “plantation mentality,” as Abdul-Jabbar aptly describes it in the clip below, is a product of age. Kareem’s whole point is that he has a long history of dubious racial behavior and only now is being closely scrutinized for it. But does the ends justify the means in exposing him — even bearing in mind that Sterling’s gotten a free pass for stuff like this his entire, very comfortable life? To see him swing from 80 years of near-impunity to public enemy number one overnight is odd, but is it unjust?

NBA Commissioner Adam Silver’s going to make an announcement about Sterling today at 2 p.m. ET. At a minimum he’ll face a huge fine; what they can do to him beyond that is unclear, but stay tuned. Exit question via policy genius Al Sharpton: Should the Clippers disband?


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Yes, yes she is the problem.

I appriciate people saying that sterling should not lose his team for expressing his views because we are a country with free speech and no to thought police and such. Word!

But I am fascinated by the same group people saying that sterling’s girlfriend should be the one punished, or as mentioned by albill go to jail. there seemed to be an agreement that private racist thoughts are fine, but recording private racist thoughts must be punished.

I am sure everyone right now on this thread will support rand Paul for president if he runs, because he too feels that the recording of citizens’ private conversations by the NSA without their consent is a horrible thing.

It’s good to see that support for privacy is not dead afterall. Really good to see.

coolrepublica on April 29, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Good Lord, you do like to make inapt comparisons. As a matter of fact, Rand Paul does have a lot of support here, but it’s still a silly comparison. And it’s the Democrat enablers who knew about his private racist thoughts, and thought it was just fine until it became public. And the government spying on you is a different thing entirely than relations between individuals.

That you manage to come up with such strained arguments is a measure of your desperation.

Fenris on April 29, 2014 at 12:23 PM

So he does work hard enough on defense! And he tries during the playoffs! Take that, Joey!

cbenoistd on April 29, 2014 at 11:29 AM

LMAO…Excellent homage to Airplane! one of the best spoof movies evah!

Liberty or Death on April 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Hope she gets jail time.

albill on April 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM

albil, has is occurred to you that, if Sterling can be sent to jail for something he said, so could you?

Prop Gun on April 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM

But does the ends justify the means in exposing him — even bearing in mind that Sterling’s gotten a free pass for stuff like this his entire, very comfortable life?

No. The rule of law must be upheld and protected. If we allow people to say that the ends was just so any mean employed, even breaking the law, is just, we descend very quickly into a lawless society. Justice can be subjective and relative, depending on the individual.

To see him swing from 80 years of near-impunity to public enemy number one overnight is odd, but is it unjust?

It wouldn’t be unjust if the evidence had been acquired in a lawful manner, however, since the question of his competence and his age have been raised, if he is not mentally competent he can’t be held liable for his recent statements.

As to his history, as some suggest his character has been an unwholesome one his entire life, and even if that’s entirely true, it’s not illegal to be a reprehensible and even loathsome person as long as it isn’t acted upon and doesn’t damage others. It isn’t illegal to be a racist. It’s illegal to act upon that racism. It’s illegal to discriminate against others based on race or ethnicity in employment, education, service, etc.

Sterling has employed many black people on his sports team, he has compensated them well. I haven’t seen one instance of anyone claiming he discriminated against in terms of employment or compensation for that employment. On the contrary, he’s donated handsomely to charities that largely direct the funding to black students and athletes, like the NAACP over the years though the Clippers Foundation and through The Sterling Foundation. Obviously he’s made these donations for business reasons, and he’s also refrained from overt racism in hiring and compensation for business and legal reasons.

While he may personally be an incredible schmuck, and I do believe that to be the case, in his professional life I haven’t seen one person step forward, to date, to claim that he discriminated against them in hiring, working conditions, or compensation, based on race or ethnicity. So ethically he’s a racist, misogynist, and thoroughly detestable individual, but legally I’ve yet to see the case made that he’s acted outside the law.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM

so the party of tolerance and diveristy wants to destroy an 80 year old guy for what was illegially recorded in his own home

hello 1984

and the backstabbing gold digger has not been arrested for her illegial recording why?

sniffles1999 on April 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM

The doddering fool deserves all he gets, for being an old fool.

However, those of you who don’t defend free speech, and who defend illegal recording, you deserve the Adolfean treatment, in full, you equal sardines.

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Bill Maher tweeted the same sentiment and got pilloried on twitter.

John the Libertarian on April 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM

J., you sleep like dogs :)

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM

do the thought police now want to know what you say in your own home

all they need is video and we have 1984

sniffles1999 on April 29, 2014 at 12:28 PM

i have a belief that anything you say in private should be acceptable to be revealed to the public. in other words, don’t try to do or say bad things in private and then in public, pretend to be a nicer person. if you do something bad in private, and it gets revealed to the public and the public is angry, then… too bad, you shouldn’t have been doing that bad thing to begin with.

Sachiko on April 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM

will all the minority charities he has donated to over the years show thier outrage by RETURNING HIS MONEY???

cant wait to hear the answer to that one.

sniffles1999 on April 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM

lol! I do. :) Good to see you, my friend.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Byron :)

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM

You saw. :) I knew you’d like it, too.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2014 at 12:32 PM

She was like a sexy nanny playing “pin the fried chicken on the Sambo

Spit-take!

Skywise on April 29, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Great, level-headed commentary from both Kareem and Mark Cuban. Normally, I can’t stand to even watch Cuban, let alone listen to him, but he’s spot-on here. And I knew Kareem was smart, but never expected something like this. There is hope for our political climate. Not much, but some.

KS Rex on April 29, 2014 at 12:33 PM

While he may personally be an incredible schmuck, and I do believe that to be the case, in his professional life I haven’t seen one person step forward, to date, to claim that he discriminated against them in hiring, working conditions, or compensation, based on race or ethnicity. So ethically he’s a racist, misogynist, and thoroughly detestable individual, but legally I’ve yet to see the case made that he’s acted outside the law.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Elgin Baylor accused him of discrimination after he was fired from the Clippers org.

changer1701 on April 29, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Heh… I like how my quote of Kareem goes into moderation!

Skywise on April 29, 2014 at 12:34 PM

lewis Alcindor is one of the biggest d-bags on the planet. Will never have any respect for him. Also, if Sterling was such a racist why was he dating a half black dudette.Also, I guess the Clipper players will now not accept paychecks/money from this racist white guy.

rjoco1 on April 29, 2014 at 12:36 PM

J., not to forget the Nibelungenlied.

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Of course, when the NAACP decided to honor Sterling, it could not have predicted that the billionaire would be the center of a controversy about his racist remarks. The entire news media has been focusing on Sterling’s angry comments to his girlfriend, who apparently taped their April 9 phone conversation in which the Clippers owner admonished her for posting photos of her with black people, including Magic Johnson, the former LA Lakers star and now LA Dodgers co-owner. “It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you’re associating with black people. Do you have to?” Sterling allegedly said. He also told her: “You can sleep with them. You can bring them in. You can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that… and not to bring them to my games.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/racist-donald-sterling_b_5223223.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Ok Coolrepublica, with you added in, we have, a slut gold digger, a billionaire basically paying an escort, and 3 morons, one of whom was illegally wire tapping to extort.

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 12:40 PM

changer1701 on April 29, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Baylor spent 22 years as the GM of The LA Clippers. He was fired before the ’08-’09 season.

In February 2009, Baylor filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against the Clippers, team owner Donald Sterling, team president Andy Roeser, and the NBA. He alleged that he was underpaid during his tenure with the team and then fired because of his age and race.[11] Baylor’s claim was rejected by a Los Angeles state court jury on March 30, 2011 by a unanimous 12-0 vote.[12]

For a guy who was suffering discrimination he sure stuck around a very long time being ‘under paid’ and discriminated against because of his age and race.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Indeed. A personal favorite. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

What I’m wondering is how Sterling, as an NBA team owner, was ever stupid enough to be baited into a racist rant even by his girlfriend. Anybody who has ever watched an NBA game knows that the vast majority of players on all NBA teams are black, so that Sterling (or any other NBA owner) who makes a racist rant is bound to piss off most of his employees. Not only is it offensive, it’s bad for business, so Sterling should have simply told his girlfriend something like “I need these guys to make money, so keep your comments to yourself”.

Steve Z on April 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Mr. Abdul-Jabbar is from the era, when basketball players on scholarship earned credible degrees. His degree was in History.

This is one of his best books:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Profiles-Courage-African-American-Achievement/dp/B001PIHVRG/ref=la_B000APM058_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1398785582&sr=1-5

patch on April 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Mr. Abdul-Jabbar (Alcindor) was not only schooled in history, he was schooled in John Wooden. Coach Wooden did not allow his players to slack, insisted they be the best and brightest. He also taught respect. No jacket and tie on the road, no play on the road. He never stopped referring to Kareem as “Lewis”, and you can bet “Lewis” never, ever corrected him.

There used to be value, real life value, in an American university education. Unfortunately the “mentors” seem to have gone down the same path as the “students”.

NOMOBO on April 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Hope she gets jail time.

albill on April 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM

albil, has is occurred to you that, if Sterling can be sent to jail for something he said, so could you?
Prop Gun on April 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM

I think you read it wrong, Prop Gun. albill said hope SHE gets jail time, the gold digger girlfriend, for recording the conversation.

cptacek on April 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

hello 1984 punish a man for what he says in the privacy of his own home
his right of privacy was violated
the “lady” committed a crime

will the minority charties he supported give the money back

what has he done that is ILLEGIAL anyway.

how about comments in the past by
al sharpton
jessie jackson
rev wright
obama about his grandparents
all the liberals (not yet fired) by msnbc
harry reids slander of the koch brothers

sniffles1999 on April 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

i have a belief that anything you say in private should be acceptable to be revealed to the public.
Sachiko on April 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM

ummmm…..yeah, try that with a wife, and make pubic, even to your kids what was said behind closed doors.

Pal, private and public are two different entities…your private life is exactly that, free from public scrutiny.

That is about the weirdest, most naive posting I have read in a long time…

right2bright on April 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM

What we need to talk about is how conservative media tried to score political points based on a phony report Sterling was a democrat.

weedisgood on April 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

taping. But it’s ok. You can’t spell either.

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

weedisgood on April 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Show us his republican donations. Has the air cleared yet?

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

He never stopped referring to Kareem as “Lewis”, and you can bet “Lewis” never, ever corrected him.

NOMOBO on April 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Kareem allowed just two people to call him “Lewis”, Coach Wooden and his mom.

And yes, he and many others were taught to reach their full potential under the honorable Coach John Wooden.

A man that everyone should read about…a person who taught by example.

Every leader should be forced to learn Coach Wooden’s techniques of discipline, hard work, organization, and respect.

right2bright on April 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Show us his republican donations. Has the air cleared yet?

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Don’t waste your time on the troll…he has nothing to back up what he posts. Don’t feed the troll.

right2bright on April 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Show us his republican donations. Has the air cleared yet?

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Don’t argue with choomed people.

The NAACP finally, only today, canceled his “life achievement award”. Yesterday they still loved his millions and were ready to forgive his racism. They must have gotten a call from the other one who got hit donations, the American ‘pope’.

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Show us his republican donations. Has the air cleared yet?

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

So because he made political donations to democrats we must ignore the fact that he is a REGISTERED republican?

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/04/donald-sterling-republican-democrat-politics-nba-racism

Conservative media is part of the political correctness 21st century ‘!ynching’ business.

Breitbart, Drudge and NRO were calling or ‘subliminally’ calling for the head of Sterling.
We accuse liberals of forcing political correctness on America but I will not sit by and watch while conservative blogs participate in this nonsense just to score cheap political points after the Bundy fiasco.

This whole idea of destroying the life of someone because they said something that offended someone makes me very uncomfortable to be honest. We need to fight back hard and not play the game of the liberals

weedisgood on April 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Hope she gets jail time.

albill on April 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM

albil, has is occurred to you that, if Sterling can be sent to jail for something he said, so could you?
Prop Gun on April 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM

I think you read it wrong, Prop Gun. albill said hope SHE gets jail time, the gold digger girlfriend, for recording the conversation.

cptacek on April 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Mea culpa – sorry albil, as cptacek points out, I flamed you unjustly. Still, in this day and age you can’t blame a guy for having a hair trigger.

Prop Gun on April 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

“Plantation Mentality”…on what fricking plantation did you get a 50 million dollar guaranteed contract for playing a child’s game for 6 months out of a year and being pampered like royalty? If they really want to “protest” give the damn money back…yeah right

cp3984 on April 29, 2014 at 1:28 PM

What’s the racial composition of a typical NBA arena audience?

I’m guessing 95% white on average and quite heavily white even in places like Detroit.

What Sterling seems to be saying is not that he doesn’t like blacks per se, but that he doesn’t want blacks in his audience.

He seems to be saying in so many words that they wouldn’t be appreciated by the regular crowd–consisting overwhelmingly of self-reverential white Obama lovers.

They’re downscale–bad for business.

bildung on April 29, 2014 at 1:32 PM

What we need to talk about is how conservative media tried to score political points based on a phony report Sterling was a democrat.

Dave’s Still Not Here on April 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

The only definition of the word “phony” has your picture next to it.

The reports weren’t “phony” except in your own addled imagination. Sterling did donate to Democrats several times; he donated to Gray Davis, Bill Bradley, and Patrick Leahey, and also donated to the NAACP.

On the other hand, there is absolutely no evidence, and no records, showing that he ever donated to any Republican candidates or causes.

And as for the fact that records show he’s a registered Republican, that is meaningless unless you actually know how he’s voted in the past. Remember, at least 10% of registered Republicans told exit polls that they voted for your Cult Leader in 2008, and he got even more of them in 2012.

The law doesn’t require a person to disclose who they voted for in a given election. But the law does require a person to disclose who they gave political donations to. And those results are more conclusive than simply saying someone is a registered Republican.

Please get back to your Daily Kos puppeteers and get some new manure to spread, will ya?

F-

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM

The answer, Kareem, is because we’re no longer a classicly liberal nation of adults, and do not have a popular culture unified around classicly liberal notions. Progressives have atomized and poisoned the culture with their childish grubby ideology of immediate gratification and “end justifies the means” needs. They don’t care about due processes or decency or a belief in an overarching public ethic designed to protect all people. They can think only in terms of what serves their goals TODAY even if it means degrading and destroying the very civic and Constitutional safeguards needed to protect them TOMORROW.

rrpjr on April 29, 2014 at 1:35 PM

So because he made political donations to democrats we must ignore the fact that he is a REGISTERED republican?

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/04/donald-sterling-republican-democrat-politics-nba-racism

Dave’s Still Not Here on April 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Ah, good old Mother Jones! Is David Korn still there? LOL!

Simple question for a simpleton: Were the 10% of registered Republicans who voted for O’bama in 2008 also Racists?

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Yes, yes she is the problem.

I appriciate people saying that sterling should not lose his team for expressing his views because we are a country with free speech and no to thought police and such. Word!

But I am fascinated by the same group people saying that sterling’s girlfriend should be the one punished, or as mentioned by albill go to jail. there seemed to be an agreement that private racist thoughts are fine, but recording private racist thoughts must be punished.

I am sure everyone right now on this thread will support rand Paul for president if he runs, because he too feels that the recording of citizens’ private conversations by the NSA without their consent is a horrible thing.

It’s good to see that support for privacy is not dead afterall. Really good to see.

Idiot. I imagine you’re a troll and I shouldn’t even respond, but your logical fallacies (not to mention your use of English) were so dreadful I just had to.

We have discussed here, at some length, the racism issue. We all find racism abhorrent. The man has a right to his own views because this is America, but no one here has said his opinions are good ones.

Keep up though, this particular thread is mainly about what was said by Mr. Abdul-Jabar, who was speaking of the woman who recorded the call. Recording the call was against the law and a horrible breach of privacy. You know what that means I assume. It means that she should be prosecuted for breaking the law.

Just because we are discussing the content of this particular article doesn’t mean we don’t abhor what was said by Mr. Sterling. However people are not supposed to be thrown into prison, or even fined, for their opinions here in America, at least not yet.

Annielou on April 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM

“Plantation Mentality”…on what fricking plantation did you get a 50 million dollar guaranteed contract for playing a child’s game for 6 months out of a year and being pampered like royalty? If they really want to “protest” give the damn money back…yeah right

cp3984 on April 29, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Exactly!
Early in my career, I was being treated poorly at work by a middle eastern man, who felt he should always have first choce of assignments because he was a man, even though I had been there five years longer. When I complained to my employer that I wanted an even share of good assignments, I was told to shut up or I would be reassigned to an undesirable position.
I gave away my bonus check, even though I had two young children at the time. I wouldn’t have been able to look at anything I got with that money. To this day it makes me ill to think about it. I left within a year.

The spoiled NBA players, and presumably the “girlfriend”, aren’t offended enough to give the money back or donate it to charity. Their big statement is to wear their shirts inside out.

Pathetic whining infants.

And isn’t anyone else offended by the “girlfriend”? He’s married. But adultery apparently isn’t nearly as offensive as a senile 81 year old making racist comments. Not being racist is actual employment practices, mind you, just in words.

talkingpoints on April 29, 2014 at 1:45 PM

and the backstabbing gold digger has not been arrested for her illegial recording why?

Because racism.

vlad martel on April 29, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Heh, morons, on the dole, hypocrites extraordinaires

For the choomed ones, the NAACP is not Republican.

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Dave’s Still Not Here on April 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Idiot, so is Colon Powell.

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM

talkingpoints on April 29, 2014 at 1:45 PM

It’s all becoming clear now. The alleged racist adulterer may have been set up by another alleged adulterer who just so happens to want to buy the racist adulterer’s team. Prospective alleged adulterer buyer is Magic Johnson who is magically some of the subject matter in racist adulterer’s alleged racist rant.

Brat on April 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Also, if Sterling was such a racist why was he dating a half black dudette.

rjoco1 on April 29, 2014 at 12:36 PM

It’s not entirely impossible that for some men, while the big head is full of racisty-racist racism, the little head is an equal opportunity employer….

djm1992 on April 29, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Well, according to the NBA, A person’s personal thoughts and feelings have to conform to their views on freedom of speech. Any American who continues to support the NBA after today, deserves what looms in the future when YOUR constitutionally protected rights are stripped without any due process or rule of law…Ashamed to be an American today…

bimmcorp on April 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM

http://www.usatoday.com

NEW YORK — Denouncing Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling’s racist comments in strong language, NBA Commissioner Adam Silver announced the league has banned Sterling for life and fined him $2.5 million.

Axe on April 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Still not as good as murdering him and taking his stuff, but it’s a good start. Sort of just beating him and taking some of his stuff. But we’ll get there, if we just keep trying.

I know we can do it.

Axe on April 29, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Banned for life. I will never watch or go to an NBA game again.

DisneyFan on April 29, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Well, according to the NBA, A person’s personal thoughts and feelings have to conform to their views on freedom of speech. Any American who continues to support the NBA after today, deserves what looms in the future when YOUR constitutionally protected rights are stripped without any due process or rule of law…Ashamed to be an American today…

bimmcorp on April 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Hopefully you aren’t MLB fan. Marge Schott’s penalty was far harsher, she was actually forced to sell the team because of her personal thoughts and feelings.

The NBA is a private business. They have all the right to fine and suspend owners (ask Cuban) as long as they comply with their own by-laws and constitution.

joana on April 29, 2014 at 2:39 PM

i have a belief that anything you say do in private should be acceptable to be revealed to the public.
Sachiko on April 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM

How does that minor change strike you. Are you prepared to reveal your sexual and sanitary habits in public. I would prefer a little common sense instead.
Conservatives believe in privacy. Liberals used to – now they want once private matters forced openly on the public much to the detriment of our society.

LarryinLA on April 29, 2014 at 2:41 PM

joana on April 29, 2014 at 2:39 PM

You are a total moron. I hope you enjoy the world you are helping to create when it comes back to bite you in the ass.

DisneyFan on April 29, 2014 at 2:44 PM

La muchacha es puta sucia

Doyle Hargrave on April 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM

HA filters apparently won’t allow posts containing the racist quotes of Joe Biden and Harry Reid.

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Lifetime ban & fine of 2 . 5 million. . .
Well now we know the price of “thoughtcrime”

AmyDB on April 29, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Hopefully you aren’t MLB fan. Marge Schott’s penalty was far harsher, she was actually forced to sell the team because of her personal thoughts and feelings.

The NBA is a private business. They have all the right to fine and suspend owners (ask Cuban) as long as they comply with their own by-laws and constitution.

joana on April 29, 2014 at 2:39 PM

I have not watched a Major League Baseball game since the strike in the 1980s or whenever it was that the A-holes cancelled the World Series. I don’[t even know any of the players, nor do I care. I missed all the steroid scandals and the he men busting out 80 HRs a season and all that. I swore off Hollywood and all things liberal about the same time. The last movie I went to see at the theater was ‘La Bamba’. When I boycott or say I will no longer support something, I mean it. Unlike most American consumers and “fans”…All I ever watch anymore are old movies and some NFL Football, although I won’t watch ESPN. Call me a whiner, or call me weird..or just call me a homophobic, Islamophobic, wing-nut, racist tea tard, and I could not care less. I am at the point in my life where none of this ‘entertainment’ does not matter to me. My values, principles and integrity are far more important than my need to conform and to be politically correct.

bimmcorp on April 29, 2014 at 3:06 PM

“i have a belief that anything you say do in private should be acceptable to be revealed to the public.”
Sachiko on April 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Hmmm. Let me see if I am interpreting this correctly. If I were to videotape you secretly while you were screwing your neighbor’s wife (or husband), and if I then posted the video on YouTube, that would be okay. You’re kidding us, right?

ricoliv on April 29, 2014 at 3:12 PM

So if my child tapes me making disparaging remarks about Obama and reveals them to the thought police I can be sent to a gulag? Sadly – that day is not far away.

alanstern on April 29, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Basketball is a stupid game designed for the bizarrely tall.

Never liked it at all. I’d sooner watch little people limbo.

fadetogray on April 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM

“In this country, people are allowed to be morons.”

Um no, Mark. YOu’re wrong.
We lost our right to be morons a long time ago.

If you were enough of a moron to buy a house you couldn’t afford, you don’t suffer the consequences of your moronic decision. The government bailed you out.

If you were enough of a moron to allow a union to turn your company into a money-losing social welfare agency, the government bailed you out.

If you were enough of a moron to put a styrofoam cup of hot coffee between your legs- in a car- while wearing a minskirt- you didn’t suffer the consequences of your moronic decision. You sued McDonalds and got a zillion dollars.

Etc…

Dexter_Alarius on April 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Why aren’t we also outraged that Donald Sterling was secretly recorded?

Why aren’t we also outraged that Donald Sterling was committing adultery?

itsnotaboutme on April 29, 2014 at 4:21 PM

I forget, was he Roger or Victor?

“Roger, Roger. What`s our vector, Victor?” :)

ThePrez on April 29, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Not secretly recorded. She recorded him all the time with his knowledge.

ibib on April 29, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Oh, ferchrissakes. Do I have to spell it out for you?!

Whether or not Sterling “consented” to being taped, has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

These were private conversations; he didn’t consent to them being LEAKED to the PUBLIC.

Moreover, he’s now being punished for a THOUGHT CRIME!

God how Orwellian can it get?!

The NBA is punishing the man for his OPINION on race issues; they are banning him from his own property; they are demanding he sell his business! One legal analyst stated outright that there is NO EVIDENCE he ever discriminated against anyone on his team or in the NBA. NO EVIDENCE.

So, he’s being convicted for past crimes of bigotry; which he’s already paid for committing. And, he’s being convicted NOW, in clear violation of his First Amendment rights, in the “court of public opinion” by a bunch of fascist liberals–because they don’t like his OPINION! Good grief people, even Bill Maher gets it right this time.

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! And, what is so annoying, alarming, and breathtaking is that I’ve seen NO CONSERVATIVES MAKE THE ARGUMENT that he’s being punished for THOUGHT CRIMES.

mountainaires on April 29, 2014 at 5:35 PM

I’m surprised this conspiracy theory isn’t getting more play …

A. Sterling’s mistress is pals with Magic Johnson.

B. Sterling’s mistress pushes her racist jerk lover’s buttons by posting Instagram photos of herself with Magic Johnson.

C. Sterling’s mistress then surreptitiously records her racist jerk lover, his buttons pressed, being a racist jerk. Thus ruining his ability to continue to own the Los Angeles Clippers franchise.

D. Who steps in to buy a ready-to-win franchise in the second largest TV market in the U.S.? Say it with me, people ….

FishingwFredo on April 29, 2014 at 5:45 PM

That good ol’ liberal fascism, you gotta love it. Their one finger pointing at Sterling & three back at themselves. No one with a brain in the media mines.

russedav on April 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM

So because he made political donations to democrats we must ignore the fact that he is a REGISTERED republican?

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/04/donald-sterling-republican-democrat-politics-nba-racism

Conservative media is part of the political correctness 21st century ‘!ynching’ business.

Breitbart, Drudge and NRO were calling or ‘subliminally’ calling for the head of Sterling.
We accuse liberals of forcing political correctness on America but I will not sit by and watch while conservative blogs participate in this nonsense just to score cheap political points after the Bundy fiasco.

This whole idea of destroying the life of someone because they said something that offended someone makes me very uncomfortable to be honest. We need to fight back hard and not play the game of the liberals

weedisgood on April 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

So………you can’t. Is that the short version?

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 6:39 PM

I’m a registered Alpha Centaurian. Haven’t been home in a while, but that’s not your f’n business.

I know the peron who has my neighboring star named after them too.

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Having said all of this, I still have no problem with the punishment. His comments hurt the whole league. They have an agreement between them, I am sure he violated it, even if recorded illegally.

Gotta protect the business.

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 6:45 PM

So because he made political donations to democrats we must ignore the fact that he is a REGISTERED republican?

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/04/donald-sterling-republican-democrat-politics-nba-racism

Conservative media is part of the political correctness 21st century ‘!ynching’ business.

Breitbart, Drudge and NRO were calling or ‘subliminally’ calling for the head of Sterling.
We accuse liberals of forcing political correctness on America but I will not sit by and watch while conservative blogs participate in this nonsense just to score cheap political points after the Bundy fiasco.

This whole idea of destroying the life of someone because they said something that offended someone makes me very uncomfortable to be honest. We need to fight back hard and not play the game of the liberals

weedisgood on April 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Wow. I had to read that several times. The internal inconsistencies are amazing, but the pure hypocrisy is priceless. You rejects INVENTED character assassination.

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 6:53 PM

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! And, what is so annoying, alarming, and breathtaking is that I’ve seen NO CONSERVATIVES MAKE THE ARGUMENT that he’s being punished for THOUGHT CRIMES.

mountainaires on April 29, 2014 at 5:35 PM

No. He’s being punished for hurting the league, an ENTERTAINMENT industry.

WryTrvllr on April 29, 2014 at 6:58 PM

1.8 million in “gifts” the lady must be a real freak

gxbhkt on April 29, 2014 at 7:53 PM

No jacket and tie on the road, no play on the road. He never stopped referring to Kareem as “Lewis”, and you can bet “Lewis” never, ever corrected him.

You are correct about Coach Wooden’s standards, but inaccurate on your history. Kareem changed his name as a pro, the year after the Bucks won the NBA title. He was “Lew Alcindor” throughout his college career.

UnrepentantCurmudgeon on April 29, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Magic wants to buy the Clippers, girlfriend in legal fight with estranged wife, a photo of her with Magic seemed to be the focal point of the phone conversation, Magic is pushing for the forced sale of the team. What is a finders fee? just saying.

Zaire67 on April 29, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Also, if Sterling was such a racist why was he dating a half black dudette.

rjoco1 on April 29, 2014 at 12:36 PM

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It’s not entirely impossible that for some men, while the big head is full of racisty-racist racism, the little head is an equal opportunity employer….

djm1992 on April 29, 2014 at 2:15 PM

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I’m not saying you’re wrong … I’m only saying that the mental picture you just gave me is going to be tough to “cleanse.”

listens2glenn on April 29, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Why? Because Americans have gotten so used to taping everyone illegally that they consider nothing wrong with it…

easyt65 on April 29, 2014 at 11:16 PM

This past year we’ve watched Paula Deen destroyed for what she said in a deposition, the CEO of Mozilla forced out for a six year old political donation, and now an eighty year old racist with memory problems banned for life on the basis of a secretly recorded conversation with his girlfriend. Even Clive Bundy’s comments are far less incendiary when read in context.
I won’t even blame this on the left, I’m going to blame it on the Mob. Our individual freedoms are rapidly falling under control by a PC mob. The greatest danger we face is the rise of a monolithic culture that silences all dissent. That lack of diversity of thought is a danger to all free people. I think Mr Sterling is a racist sleezebucket, but he’s not a danger to us all. That mob is.

Some icing on the cake In the same year, Obama told lies that would see any insurance CEO jailed for felony fraud, Rice lied about an unsavory video causing the death of a US ambassador after coaching by a top White House aid, and Kerry called Israel an Apartheid state on their day of remembrance of the Holocaust. The press either defended those statements or was silent. Nothing has happened to any of those people. We’re living in a dangerous world, inside our own borders.

hdc77494 on April 30, 2014 at 12:03 AM

Also, if Sterling was such a racist why was he dating a half black dudette.

rjoco1 on April 29, 2014 at 12:36 PM

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It’s not entirely impossible that for some men, while the big head is full of racisty-racist racism, the little head is an equal opportunity employer….

djm1992 on April 29, 2014 at 2:15 PM

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I’m not saying you’re wrong … I’m only saying that the mental picture you just gave me is going to be tough to “cleanse.”

listens2glenn on April 29, 2014 at 10:15 PM

The only picture I saw of her, not only is she not a dudette, but definitely billionaire material. But the typical brainpower of a pawn. I guess they must like that.

WryTrvllr on April 30, 2014 at 12:42 AM

http://www.metro.us/newyork/entertainment/gossip/2014/04/28/photos-v-stiviano-donald-sterlings-alleged-girlfriend/

Stunning beside stunningly stupid.

WryTrvllr on April 30, 2014 at 12:46 AM

You really think that thing is stunning?

slickwillie2001 on April 30, 2014 at 12:54 AM

Bill Maher tweeted the same sentiment and got pilloried on twitter.

John the Libertarian on April 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Bill Maher got pilloried by his adoring armies of followers ??? Noooo…..

jimver on April 30, 2014 at 3:59 AM

weedisgood on April 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Stop trolling, troll…

jimver on April 30, 2014 at 4:06 AM

Yeah. It’s the eyes

WryTrvllr on April 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM

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