Kerry: Israel could become an “apartheid state” if peace talks collapse

posted at 8:41 am on April 28, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

John Kerry has had a bad year-plus as Secretary of State. He inherited the “reset button” relationship with Russia from his clueless predecessor Hillary Clinton, and that has turned into a new version of the Cold War as Vladimir Putin restarts Russian imperialism. Kerry, however, has caused much of his own misery by insisting on an agreement with Iran that gets them economic aid while giving up nothing on their nuclear development plans. Kerry also insisted that he knew how to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, only to fall on his face repeatedly as the two sides refuse to bend to his will. On Friday, Kerry lashed out by “warning” Israel that it would become an “apartheid state” if it didn’t get serious about meeting the Palestinian demands for peace, reports Josh Rogin at the Daily Beast:

If there’s no two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict soon, Israel risks becoming “an apartheid state,” Secretary of State John Kerry told a room of influential world leaders in a closed-door meeting Friday.

Senior American officials have rarely, if ever, used the term “apartheid” in reference to Israel, and President Obama has previously rejected the idea that the word should apply to Jewish State. Kerry’s use of the loaded term is already rankling Jewish leaders in America—and almost certain to Israeli leaders abroad.

It wasn’t the only controversial comment on the Middle East that Kerry made during his remarks to the Trilateral Commission, a recording of which was obtained by The Daily Beast. Kerry also repeated his warning that a failure of Middle East peace talks could lead to a resumption of Palestinian violence against Israeli citizens. He suggested that a change in either the Israeli or Palestinian leadership could make achieving a peace deal more feasible. He lashed out against Israeli settlement-building. And Kerry said that both Israeli and Palestinian leaders share the blame for the current impasse in the talks.

After this got published yesterday, a big debate broke out over the value of Rogin’s scoop. Some suggested that this wasn’t really news, and that Rogin was milking Kerry’s use of “apartheid” for sensationalism. Kerry didn’t call Israel an apartheid state now, the argument went, but warned that anything less than a two-state solution would force Israel to keep Palestinians in a second-class status in a singular state if the West Bank and Gaza were annexed rather than spun off into a new state.

That’s true, and it’s why some Israelis generally prefer either a two-state solution or a transfer of authority of the West Bank to Jordan, the latter of which is a pipe dream; Jordan wants nothing to do with it. Both sides have legitimate grievances, but grievances can be mitigated and compensated, and borders drawn through negotiations — but if that’s all there was to the conflict, it would have been solved at Wye River. Giving Palestinian full citizenship in Israel would create the same result as a capitulation on the “right of return”: the end of the Jewish state entirely. Unfortunately, that’s what the Palestinians ultimately want, which is why the peace talks went nowhere, and why they’ll continue to go nowhere.

Kerry doesn’t seem to have learned this, which makes this part of his fit of pique a little more humorous than Kerry probably thinks:

Kerry also said that at some point, he might unveil his own peace deal and tell both sides to “take it or leave it.”

Really? Take it or leave it — or what? The US will quit trying to mediate in the dispute? At least with the track record of incompetence in this area from the Obama administration and the longer track record of utter failure in every American administration in memory, that may be an improvement.

The Palestinians are already thumbing their noses at Kerry, and moving the dispute to the UN:

The Palestine Liberation Organisation’s central council on Sunday adopted a plan to pursue attempts to join 60 United Nations bodies and international agreements.

The council, under the auspices of president Mahmud Abbas, “affirms the need for the Palestinian leadership to continue membership of UN agencies and international conventions”, the Palestine People’s Party secretary general Bassam al-Salhi said in a statement.

The council also said Israel was to blame for failed international and US efforts to find a negotiated settlement to the Middle East conflict.

That would force the US to cut off the PA, but the new reconciliation agreement with Hamas will force that move anyway. That will cost Abbas about $400 million a year in aid, but it does serve as a pre-emptive answer to Kerry and the Obama administration to Kerry’s ultimatum: They’re leaving it.

Update: Jeff Dunetz offers his perspective on why the peace talks failed … again:

There is plenty of blame to go around for the failure of the latest round of negotiations. Hillary Clinton made settlements an issue; Bibi Netanyahu should have gone for a settlement freeze instead of a prisoner release, and the Obama administration was naïve in believing Abbas wanted peace, thought they could get peace by pressuring and blaming only one side.

In the end the biggest reason for the failure of the talks lies with one simple fact. The Palestinians don’t want peace. Think about it, name some concessions the Israeli’s have made, from giving up control of Gaza almost nine years ago to the latest prisoner release (on top of all the other prisoner releases). Now try to name some concessions by the “moderate” Palestinian Terrorists. Have they even stopped inciting their people to hate Jews, or recognized the Jewishness of Israel?

While neither the mainstream media or the Obama administration will recognize the truth, the ultimate blame for killing this latest round of talks should rest firmly in the laps of the Palestinians.

Until both sides agree to a permanent two-state solution that recognizes the Jewish character of one and the Palestinian Arab character of the other, there really isn’t much to discuss.


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Kerry also said that at some point, he might unveil his own peace deal and tell both sides to “take it or leave it.”
Really? Take it or leave it — or what?

Or Kerry will beat both sides with a wet noodle…

workingclass artist on April 28, 2014 at 8:43 AM

John Kerry has had a bad year-plus as Secretary of State. He inherited the “reset button” relationship with Russia from his clueless predecessor Hillary Clinton, and that has turned into a new version of the Cold War as Vladimir Putin restarts Russian imperialism.

He didn’t inherit stupid, however.

itsspideyman on April 28, 2014 at 8:44 AM

So that’s now official government policy in all things now?

If you don’t do what I want you’re racist?

Skywise on April 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM

The only thing wrong with Israeli apartheid is that it’s only allowed in Israel. Let’s be real; no one wants to live around Arabs and Africans, not even other Arabs and Africans – hence the immigrant invasion of Europe.

abobo on April 28, 2014 at 8:48 AM

The Israelis want to be left alone to live in peace. The Palestinians want the Israelis exterminated. How exactly do you negotiate a compromise between those two positions?

Shump on April 28, 2014 at 8:48 AM

Again, what a shock.

Anti-Jewish Kerry, egged on by anti-Jewish Samantha Power, makes anti-Jewish statements on behalf of a man who clapped and cheered for twenty years as his “spiritual advisor” Jeremiah Wright blamed Jews for all the problems of the world and exhorted the virtues of Hamas.

And the media which employs Al Sharpton of “kill all Jews” fame eggs it on.

And to what state are they sucking up? Iran, which has as a matter of official policy erasing Israel and the Jews from the face of the earth by use of nuclear weapons.

northdallasthirty on April 28, 2014 at 8:50 AM

or what?

Oh, I dunno … how about the United States government stop trying to play international matchmaker and stop throwing away billions of dollars to foreign regimes and stop keeping soldiers away from their families on insanely long deployments to “defend” rich nations and …

corona79 on April 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM

On Friday, Kerry lashed out by “warning” Israel that it would become an “apartheid state” if it didn’t get serious about meeting the Palestinian demands for peace,

I get it now. coolrepub is Kerry’s sockpuppet.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Again, what a shock.

Anti-Jewish Kerry, egged on by anti-Jewish Samantha Power, makes anti-Jewish statements on behalf of a man who clapped and cheered for twenty years as his “spiritual advisor” Jeremiah Wright blamed Jews for all the problems of the world and exhorted the virtues of Hamas.

And the media which employs Al Sharpton of “kill all Jews” fame eggs it on.

And to what state are they sucking up? Iran, which has as a matter of official policy erasing Israel and the Jews from the face of the earth by use of nuclear weapons.

northdallasthirty on April 28, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Um, yeah. That about sums it up.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 8:55 AM

Does any Leftist Troll want to defend Kerry and his idiotic statement?

There were a lot of Liberal of commenters on here defending Obama and claiming that he didn’t hate Israel back in 2008 and 2012 and we were just making stuff up, sore losers, racist, etc. Wonder where they are now?

Johnnyreb on April 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Kerry also said that at some point, he might unveil his own peace deal and tell both sides to “take it or leave it.”
Really? Take it or leave it — or what?

Or Kerry will beat both sides with a wet noodle…

workingclass artist on April 28, 2014 at 8:43 AM

No need to get pornographic.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Kerry also said that at some point, he might unveil his own peace deal and tell both sides to “take it or leave it.”

Will they make their decision before or after getting treated for severe, laugh-induced cramping.

JFKerry couldn’t lay out the steps involved in putting on his shoes and socks.

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Again, what a shock.

Anti-Jewish Kerry, egged on by anti-Jewish Samantha Power, makes anti-Jewish statements on behalf of a man who clapped and cheered for twenty years as his “spiritual advisor” Jeremiah Wright blamed Jews for all the problems of the world and exhorted the virtues of Hamas.

And the media which employs Al Sharpton of “kill all Jews” fame eggs it on.

And to what state are they sucking up? Iran, which has as a matter of official policy erasing Israel and the Jews from the face of the earth by use of nuclear weapons.

northdallasthirty on April 28, 2014 at 8:50 AM

http://www.theobamafile.com/_associates/RashidKhalidi.htm

Obama has a bunch of terrorist boos.

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 8:57 AM

I get it now. coolrepub is Kerry’s sockpuppet.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Hold on now, Ms. Cool only referred to “dirty black people”, not dirty Jews.

Read a math book sometime, homophobe.

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Does any Leftist Troll want to defend Kerry and his idiotic statement?

There were a lot of Liberal of commenters on here defending Obama and claiming that he didn’t hate Israel back in 2008 and 2012 and we were just making stuff up, sore losers, racist, etc. Wonder where they are now?

Johnnyreb on April 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Check out cool’s comments in http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/27/la-clippers-donald-sterling-and-the-future-of-racism/

I don’t think it is hating Jews to acknowledge that Israel has a lot of racist people living in it. But if you wish to brand this racism, so be it.

coolrepublica on April 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 9:00 AM

I get it now. coolrepub is Kerry’s sockpuppet.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Hold on now, Ms. Cool only referred to “dirty black people”, not dirty Jews.

Read a math book sometime, homophobe.

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Bite me, Bossy B!tch.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 9:01 AM

Hey, alliteration.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Israel will be an apartheid state? Are the secular Jews going to wall off the orthodox Jews?

vityas on April 28, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Is this akin to getting bishboped? It’s pretty queer.

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Become? Donald Sterling just told us it already is one.

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:03 AM

I don’t think it is hating Jews to acknowledge that Israel has a lot of racist people living in it. But if you wish to brand this racism, so be it.

coolrepublica on April 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Quite right.

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM

Until both sides agree to a permanent two-state solution that recognizes the Jewish character of one and the Palestinian Arab character of the other, there really isn’t much to discuss.

The muslims can’t agree to this, (it’s against the Koran, 2.191) and the Israelis aren’t going anywhere. Threatening the Israelis to give more to people who will never accept their existence is futile. (As is offering them Pollard) The Neo-PLO will just take the concessions and ask for more.

V7_Sport on April 28, 2014 at 9:11 AM

*************** Peace Talks DOA *****************************!!

Middle East peace talks 2013-2014
3d
Israeli cabinet votes unanimously to freeze talks with the Palestinians – @haaretzcom
end of alert

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:12 AM

I don’t think it is hating Jews to acknowledge that Israel has a lot of racist people living in it. But if you wish to brand this racism, so be it.

coolrepublica on April 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Quite right.

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM

Who, for example? Do you consider Benjamin Netanyahu racist?

Fenris on April 28, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Middle East peace talks 2013-2014
3d
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu says Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has ‘taken a giant leap backward and embraced the people who call for eradication of Israel’ – @mitchellreports

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:13 AM

The horror of the leftist mind. You people are so utterly CRAVEN and REPROBATE.

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Demographics don’t support Israel….if they don’t come up with a 2 state solution in some form, Kerry might end up being right in the very long run. It feels awful to think he might be right.

EVSCBT on April 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Who is John Kerry and what is he doing here?

iam7545 on April 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Yeah, there ya go.

Threaten ‘em with the UN. That’ll get ‘em to sit up and take notice.

So this is what Smart Power looks like.

dissent555 on April 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM

The PalestianianIslamicTerroristJihadyGoons still want Israel vapourized off the Map!!

I’ll side with Israel, and whatever they have to do to achieve their own
Peace/Security!!

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:16 AM

World War II
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Photo: Israelis stand in silence as sirens sound for Holocaust Remembrance Day – @haaretzcom
see original on twitter.com

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/460677811275960320/photo/1
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Results for #HolocaustRemembranceDay

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canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Considering the varied innumerable victim classes that we have here in the U.S., it has to be the best thing ever. Why would anyone strive for independence and freedom. You know, none of this is going to get better. It’s not like we are producing smarter people than these idiots.

Cindy Munford on April 28, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Lovely.

I stand with Israel.

gophergirl on April 28, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Last years:

Holocaust Remembrance Day Siren
Uploaded on 6 May 2011
**********************

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeozUSWdoQA

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:20 AM

why the peace talks failed

Because Jews have this unreasonable position of actually wanting to exist.

Become? Donald Sterling just told us it already is one.

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Democrat supporting Donald Sterling. You support a racist party.

libfreeordie is a racist and a fascist.

rbj on April 28, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Speaking of the JihadyHelpers Lefties:

G.C.P.P.P.
@samerissawi1

Global Campaign for Palestinian Political Prisoners | Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/avco7bk

From the River to the Sea · facebook.com/GCFPPP

https://twitter.com/samerissawi1

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HolocaustRemembranceDay&src=hash

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:24 AM

I’m waiting on Kerry and the rest of the media to admit that Saudi Arabia is an actual apartheid state. Women are second class citizens but since the Saudis are brown it doesn’t matter I guess.

MoreLiberty on April 28, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Who, for example? Do you consider Benjamin Netanyahu racist?

Fenris on April 28, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Who is racist in Israel? Interesting question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA

Now your response to Israel’s treatment of African refugees is that “well it’s just as bad as the treatment they receive by Sunni governments.” True. But don’t we give Isreal billions of dollars every year so they can act just like nearby Sunni governments. Isreal is supposed to be a beacon of freedom. Our “closest ally” and our only “Western” ally in the Middle East.

The Donald Sterling tape tells the tale, he lays out the treatment of black people in Isreal. Are you just choosing to not hear that part of the tape?

Sterling: It’s the world. You go to Isreal, the blacks are just treated like dogs. There’s white jews and black jews, you understand?
Stiviano: Are the black jews less than the white jews?
Sterling A hundred percent! .
Stiviano: Is that right?
Sterling: It isn’t a question, we don’t evaluate what’s right and wrong. We live in a society, we live in a culture…I don’t want to change the culture because I can’t.

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Demographics don’t support Israel….if they don’t come up with a 2 state solution in some form, Kerry might end up being right in the very long run. It feels awful to think he might be right.

EVSCBT on April 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM

It is already a defacto two states but the evil palestinians are not satisfied and want to annihilate the Jews from existence… Many tried before them and failed miserably… The Israelis have crushed the Arabs in every war they fought with them and in many cases the Arabs outnumbered them 10:1… Hence the demographics are meaningless… Long live Israel…

mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Palestine has become a terrorist state…
#Hamas

albill on April 28, 2014 at 9:36 AM

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Black Jews are less than 2.5% of the total Jewish population in Israel… May be they are poorer than the average Jew but they are not treated as a second class citizen… You liberal fools confuse economic status with liberty and other rights… Poverty does not equate less rights…

mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM

Hey, did Kerry opt for some chin shaving while in Korea?

BobMbx on April 28, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Gosh, I wish Netanyahu was our president.

philoise65 on April 28, 2014 at 9:41 AM

“… anything less than a two-state solution would force Israel to keep Palestinians in a second-class status in a singular state if the West Bank and Gaza were annexed rather than spun off into a new state.”

That’s not necessarily true. The Arabs in the annexed Palestine could convert to back Judaism. Heck, most of them are probably Elizabeth Warren-esque in their Jewish bloodline, anyway.

Barring that best of all outcomes, the next best interests of Israel would be to go with a three-state solution instead of a two-state solution. The Arabs in the territories have already shown they have the Pakistan problem and there is no reason for Israel to support a future failed state like that. Better to go with two states for the Arabs in territories now and not have the complication of providing some idiotic legalized connection through Israel. Keeping the two pieces separate will also be beneficial in the sense that Egypt and Jordan can continue to be coaxed into each taking over those failed states on their border in the future.

Dusty on April 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM

ack Jews are less than 2.5% of the total Jewish population in Israel… May be they are poorer than the average Jew but they are not treated as a second class citizen… You liberal fools confuse economic status with liberty and other rights… Poverty does not equate less rights…

mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM

You didn’t watch the film.

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Kerry is an idiot, we already knew that. But a person that tries to riles up protest is even worse.

ConservativePartyNow on April 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM

[northdallasthirty on April 28, 2014 at 8:50 AM]

Terrible, isn’t it? Still, I wonder if that animated this Don Sterling like outburst from Kerry or was it just the memo Kerry finally read asking him not to make Hillary bad in comparison.

Dusty on April 28, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Lovely.

I stand with Israel.

gophergirl on April 28, 2014 at 9:20 AM

gophergirl: Amens on dats!:)

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

It is already a defacto two states but the evil palestinians are not satisfied and want to annihilate the Jews from existence… Many tried before them and failed miserably… The Israelis have crushed the Arabs in every war they fought with them and in many cases the Arabs outnumbered them 10:1… Hence the demographics are meaningless… Long live Israel…

mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Only the ignorant would think Israel can hold out forever without peace. If you think they can’t lose a war you would be the only one as the Israeli Generals and people don’t think like this. They lost to terrorists just a few years ago in Lebanon. The rules of war have changed don’t fool yourself.

EVSCBT on April 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

I hope American Jews are happy with their votes.

ladyingray on April 28, 2014 at 9:51 AM

Le Bravo:

Palestine
48s
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., will introduce a bill this week to stop US aid to Palestine, his office says in statement – via @NBCNews
end of alert

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:51 AM

John Kerry is just one more reason why I am sick and tired of my country’s government.

oldennis on April 28, 2014 at 9:53 AM

mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM

No, the Israelis have never “crushed” the Arabs or Palestinians.

Because in the last six wars (1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and Lebanon), the West (specifically the U.S. and the Europeans) have always stepped in at the last minute to “negotiate a ceasefire”, “bring everyone back to the negotiating table”- and keep the Arabs and Palestinians from suffering the historically-normal consequences of starting a war and then losing it. (See France, 1798-1815 and 1870-71, Confederate States of America 1861-65, Germany 1914-18, and Germany, Italy, and Japan 1939-45.)

What we’ve had as a result has been the Arab states seeing themselves in the position of Ho Chi Minh and the Vietnamese Communists, plus the North Koreans. That is, one in which they can stop any war, no matter how badly it is going for them, by just picking up the phone and making the right noises to Washington or Lake Success.

To them, it is a “can win, cannot lose” situation. They think that eventually, they’ll get lucky, and hit Israel hard enough and fast enough to overwhelm it before anyone else can save it. (Just as the NVA did, with liberal Democrat connivance in DC, in South Vietnam in 1975.)

If Iran goes nuclear, they may conclude that their time has finally come. Remember, they just want the land, and the Jews exterminated. If you can live with the place being a sh!thole of a desert (which the Islamic types seem to think is an ideal), then nuking it into glass is definitely on the table as an option.

Until then, all they have to do is keep throwing bodies at the Israelis. The more the IDF has to kill, the better the propaganda from the Islamics’ POV. And of course, they get lots of help from like minded “enlightened elitists” in the West, especially in the news media and academia.

Not to mention the U.S. State Department.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 28, 2014 at 9:55 AM

RE: Rand sticking it to the PalestineianIslamicDeathWishers:

Report: Paul bill would halt aid to Palestinians
By Rebecca Shabad – 04/28/14 08:31 AM EDT
******************************************

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) will introduce a bill Monday that would halt United States financial assistance to Palestinians unless certain demands are met,

The Washington Post reports.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-rand-paul-possible-2016-republican-contenderto-introduce-pro-israel-legislation/2014/04/27/34cdc664-ce83-11e3-a6b1-45c4dffb85a6_story.html?wprss=rss_politics

In light of the reconciliation struck last week between the Palestinian Liberation Organization and Hamas, Paul said Palestinian officials must announce a cease-fire and publicly declare Israel has a right to exist.

Under his legislation, Palestinian leaders would have five weeks once a new government is formed to renounce violence and recognize Israel.
(More…)
==========

http://thehill.com/policy/international/204516-paul-to-unveil-bill-that-would-halt-us-aid-to-palestinians

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Become? Donald Sterling just told us it already is one.

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Yes, another Democrat 1%er has self-identified as a raaaaaacist.

What a shock.

AZCoyote on April 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM

So that’s now official government policy in all things now?

If you don’t do what I want you’re racist?

Skywise on April 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM

That’s been official U.S. government policy since January 2009 — actually, since November, 2008, when the (idiotic and embarrassing) “Office of the President-Elect” came into being.

AZCoyote on April 28, 2014 at 10:01 AM

On Friday, Kerry lashed out by “warning” Israel that it would become an “apartheid state” if it didn’t get serious about meeting the Palestinian demands for peace . . .

Get serious. There are no Palestinian demands for peace that are not steps to destroy Israel. Palestinians want Israel dead. That is not a peace process, but a death process.

creative dude on April 28, 2014 at 10:02 AM

This will only end when the Palestinians come to love their children more than they hate Israelis.

Buck Farky on April 28, 2014 at 10:03 AM

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM

You are no less an extremist bigot than the Max Blumental video cr*p which you linked to.

The Liberal Supporters of Max Blumenthal and the Campaign to Delegitimize Israel

Shy Guy on April 28, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Black Jews are less than 2.5% of the total Jewish population in Israel… May be they are poorer than the average Jew but they are not treated as a second class citizen… You liberal fools confuse economic status with liberty and other rights… Poverty does not equate less rights…

[mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM]

Quit taking the propaganda bait. Just ignore the propaganda vids from fundamentalist and extremist progressives.

Dusty on April 28, 2014 at 10:07 AM

The Donald Sterling tape tells the tale, he lays out the treatment of black people in Isreal. Are you just choosing to not hear that part of the tape?

Sterling: It’s the world. You go to Isreal, the blacks are just treated like dogs. There’s white jews and black jews, you understand?
Stiviano: Are the black jews less than the white jews?
Sterling A hundred percent! .
Stiviano: Is that right?
Sterling: It isn’t a question, we don’t evaluate what’s right and wrong. We live in a society, we live in a culture…I don’t want to change the culture because I can’t.

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM

libfreeordie: He’s a Democrat,…and…..

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Right. An apartheid state where Arabs have the right to vote.

This man is an idiot. Appointed by a moron. Both are corrupt as the day is long.

Cleombrotus on April 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Shy Guy on April 28, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Shalom shalom!

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Quit taking the propaganda bait. Just ignore the propaganda vids from fundamentalist and extremist progressives.

Dusty on April 28, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Who is taking propaganda bait? I am responding to this liberal fool with simple facts…

mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Only the ignorant would think Israel can hold out forever without peace. If you think they can’t lose a war you would be the only one as the Israeli Generals and people don’t think like this. They lost to terrorists just a few years ago in Lebanon. The rules of war have changed don’t fool yourself.

EVSCBT on April 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

They did not lose to Hizballah terrorists… Not annihilating all the terrorists does not mean the Israelis lost the war…

mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM

I hope American Jews are happy with their votes.

ladyingray on April 28, 2014 at 9:51 AM

Are you kidding? Many of them are DRIVING the votes.

Cleombrotus on April 28, 2014 at 10:14 AM

libfreeordie on April 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Donald Sterling is your source? That’s so stupid it doesn’t deserve a response.

The video from “The Flagship of the Left” is only slightly more credible. I made it about halfway through. The worst in there was some gal at a rally saying (I paraphrase): if I don’t want open borders for thugs to come in and ruin my country and threaten me, they call me a racist. Well, fine, then I must be a racist.

It’s a rhetorical device. Big whoop.

The same type of people who want the US to have open borders, want to destroy Israel using the same technique. Flood the nation with low skill illegals, and the middle class is destroyed and becomes ever more dependent on the state.

Fenris on April 28, 2014 at 10:15 AM

On Friday, Kerry lashed out by “warning” Israel that it would become an “apartheid state” if it didn’t get serious about meeting the Palestinian demands for peace,

I get it now. coolrepub is Kerry’s sockpuppet.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Why can’t Kerry be my sock puppet?I said that first.

I guess it is not a good time to mention that in Israel they have separate buses for Arabs and Jews. So I won’t mention that.

coolrepublica on April 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Both sides have grievances? I get so tired of that BS line. If Mexico was lobbing rockets into towns in AZ, NM, or TX we’d crush them (or would under any other administration). There is no chance at peace with the “palestinians” it’s a cesspool for birthing terrorists. I hate to break it to you, but if you program a child to be a terrorist, he’s going to be a terrorist short of some major life changing event. Those people are ruined. Besides that, how many hundreds of millions has been poured into that place not only by us, but the rest of the world? How much was Arafat worth at the time of his death and the rest of them live in squalor?

The military side of me, however, thinks that the “palestinians” should get a state of their own – because then, rocket attacks are an act of war and Israel can finally solve the problem.

John_G on April 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

I guess it is not a good time to mention that in Israel they have separate buses for Arabs and Jews

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jerusalem+bus+bomb&FORM=HDRSC2

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Right. An apartheid state where Arabs have the right to vote.

Cleombrotus on April 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Israel has an Arab Supreme Court Justice, plus Arab parties in Israel’s government, elected just like the rest of them.

Shalom shalom!

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 10:10 AM

עליכם שלום!

Right back at ya! :)

Shy Guy on April 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Right. An apartheid state where Arabs have the right to vote.

This man is an idiot. Appointed by a moron. Both are corrupt as the day is long.

Cleombrotus on April 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM

I guess it also not a good time to mention that the Jim Crow years in the south black people could also “vote”.

coolrepublica on April 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM

I guess it also not a good time to mention that the Jim Crow years in the south black people could also “vote”.

coolrepublica on April 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Are you saying that Arabs in Israel are subject to Jim Crow type laws? Please document.

Fenris on April 28, 2014 at 10:33 AM

I guess it is not a good time to mention that in Israel they have separate buses for Arabs and Jews.

coolrepublica on April 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Go ahead and mention it. Just make sure you know what you’re talking about and place it in correct context.

Shy Guy on April 28, 2014 at 10:33 AM

I thought that Israel was an “apartheid state” already, according to left wing idealogues like Kerry, Hillary and Obama.

The two state solution already exists, Israel for the Jews, and Jordan for the Palis’. Israel is the land west of the Jordan, including Judea and Sumeria. Israel should re-invade and take back the Sinai and Lebanon to the Litany River. Any Arab that wants to stay can be a citizen, all others send them to Egypt or Jordan. Their choice.

Kuffar on April 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM

I guess it also not a good time to mention that the Jim Crow years in the south black people could also “vote”.

coolrepublica on April 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM

No, and it’s also probably not a good idea to mention that comparing the standard of living of Blacks in the Jim Crow South and Palestinians in Israel today kind of puts the lie to your analogy.

Cleombrotus on April 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM

I guess it is not a good time to mention that in Israel they have separate buses for Arabs and Jews. So I won’t mention that.

coolrepublica on April 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Yeah, racism.

Thousands of Palestinians travel from the West Bank to work in Israel every day using Israeli public transportation. The buses are overcrowded. At times there are tensions and confrontations between Israelis and Palestinians. Israeli settlers can’t stand the sight of Palestinians anyway. So why not create a separate bus line for them? This is the logic behind a new proposal being considered by the Ministry of Transportation: Additional bus lines exclusively for Palestinians that go between checkpoints in the West Bank and central Israel, as Walla reported on Monday

http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/

Palestinians working in Israel. Why don’t they develop their own transportation system. And I’m sure the Palis have nothing but love for the Jews.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Speaking of Racists,…er,…DemonCrats:
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https://twitter.com/AllenWest

Allen West ‏@AllenWest Apr 26

Their lynchings hang in the media rather than trees, but seems the KKK-arm of Dem Party is alive & well http://bit.ly/1nQw0RN

Allen West ‏@AllenWest Apr 24

There they go again. Dems compare black Republicans to Nazi collaborators http://bit.ly/1nrkTkN #guardianoftherepublic

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Both sides have grievances? I get so tired of that BS line. If Mexico was lobbing rockets into towns in AZ, NM, or TX we’d crush them (or would under any other administration). There is no chance at peace with the “palestinians” it’s a cesspool for birthing terrorists. I hate to break it to you, but if you program a child to be a terrorist, he’s going to be a terrorist short of some major life changing event. Those people are ruined. Besides that, how many hundreds of millions has been poured into that place not only by us, but the rest of the world? How much was Arafat worth at the time of his death and the rest of them live in squalor?

The military side of me, however, thinks that the “palestinians” should get a state of their own – because then, rocket attacks are an act of war and Israel can finally solve the problem.

John_G on April 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/9/sheriffs-warn-of-violence-from-mexican-cartels-dee/

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 10:42 AM

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jerusalem+bus+bomb&FORM=HDRSC2

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 10:29 AM

As safe as a Yugo.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 10:44 AM

I guess it is not a good time to mention that in Israel they have separate buses for Arabs and Jews. So I won’t mention that.

coolrepublica on April 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM

coolrepublica:

Now thats a brilliant idea,…the “Arabs”,…can blow themselves up,
on their own buses,…

….wait a tic,…thats a safety feature!

Oh,..I haven’t heard of any Bus KaBlewys in Israel of late!!!

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Oh,..I haven’t heard of any Bus KaBlewys in Israel of late!!!

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

The last one(They found it and evacuated the scene) would have been a scant 4 months ago. Is that “of late?” Are we to think that 4 months of no bus bombings in a nation 1/6 the size of the state of Missouri is PROGRESS or GOOD?

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 10:54 AM

…the one-two punch of Smart Power from Hillary and Horseface…is JUST AWESOME!

KOOLAID2 on April 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM

John Kerry – once again, in over his head. Maybe he should put himself in for another medal.

GarandFan on April 28, 2014 at 11:08 AM

I am responding ….”

mnjg on April 28, 2014 at 10:11 AM

There you go. I couldn’t have put it better myself.

Dusty on April 28, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Kerry also repeated his warning that a failure of Middle East peace talks could lead to a resumption of Palestinian violence against Israeli citizens.

Sounds like more of a threat than a warning.

slickwillie2001 on April 28, 2014 at 11:21 AM

John Kerry has had a bad year-plus as Secretary of State. He inherited the “reset button” relationship with Russia from his clueless predecessor Hillary Clinton, and that has turned into a new version of the Cold War as Vladimir Putin restarts Russian imperialism. Kerry, however, has caused much of his own misery by insisting on an agreement with Iran that gets them economic aid while giving up nothing on their nuclear development plans. Kerry also insisted that he knew how to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, only to fall on his face repeatedly as the two sides refuse to bend to his will. On Friday, Kerry lashed out by “warning” Israel that it would become an “apartheid state” if it didn’t get serious about meeting the Palestinian demands for peace, reports Josh Rogin at the Daily Beast:

John Kerry may yet do what I would have thought impossible: make Hillary Clinton look good.

There Goes the Neighborhood on April 28, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Speaking of IslamicGoons:

al-Qaeda
1m
US Supreme Court declines to hear a challenge to a law that allows the US military to indefinitely detain people believed to have helped al-Qaida or the Taliban – @Reuters
end of alert

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 11:33 AM

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM

The last one(They found it and evacuated the scene) would have been a scant 4 months ago. Is that “of late?” Are we to think that 4 months of no bus bombings in a nation 1/6 the size of the state of Missouri is PROGRESS or GOOD?

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Murphy9: Oh I didn’t hear that, and so far, Israel has stopped it:)

canopfor on April 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Israel can’t play 3 card monte.

sabote on April 28, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I’d ask “why doesn’t he shut up?” but he can’t: he’s John Kerry!

David Blue on April 28, 2014 at 12:55 PM

John Kerry may yet do what I would have thought impossible: make Hillary Clinton look good.
There Goes the Neighborhood on April 28, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Maybe that’s intentional?

Skywise on April 28, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I can’t decide whether Kerry has the face of a horse and the brain of a bird, or the face of a potato and the brain of a pea.

VorDaj on April 28, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Tell the palis to quit squatting on traditional Jewish land and go back home to Jordan and beyond. Isreal is for Jews and Jerusalem is for Judaism. End of debate.

AH_C on April 28, 2014 at 5:29 PM

The two state solution already exists, Israel for the Jews, and Jordan for the Palis’. Israel is the land west of the Jordan, including Judea and Sumeria. Israel should re-invade and take back the Sinai and Lebanon to the Litany River. Any Arab that wants to stay can be a citizen, all others send them to Egypt or Jordan. Their choice
.Kuffar on April 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM

Exactly. And the next time they fight, let Israel totally crush the enemies notwithstanding the lamentations ululating of their women, instead of bailing the arabs out with a ceasefire. Once upon a time I might have cared, but since the plo exterminated all the Christian, secular and any other non-islamist palis, there’re no innocents to protect any more.

AH_C on April 28, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Senator Ted Cruz @SenTedCruz · 48m

Secretary Kerry should offer President Obama his resignation, and the President should accept it.

davidk on April 28, 2014 at 6:02 PM

And Kerry said that both Israeli and Palestinian leaders share the blame for the current impasse in the talks.

Of course you do champ. Moral equivalence is the hallmark of you and your pharo’s foreign policy. Nobody, not us, not Israel, are exceptional. Lying, murdering Arab terrorists have every moral right to sit at the table too. I can’t imagine why the Israeli’s equate you to the flea on the dog’s back–I think they might be referring not only to your immorality but also your brain power (or lack therof).

NOMOBO on April 28, 2014 at 6:16 PM

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