Here we go: Senate to get moving on $10.10/hour national minimum wage bill this week

posted at 6:01 pm on April 28, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

Democratic leaders have held off on bringing their master midterm-elections/minimum-wage plan to the floor for a vote for months, the better to move the “income inequality” debate closer to the heart of campaign season, but it appears that the time is finally nigh. Via the AP:

And now, a bill by Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, boosting today’s $7.25 hourly minimum in three steps until it hits $10.10 as soon as 2016. His minimum wage bill is widely expected to join that list Wednesday, when the Senate seems poised to vote on it. Though it should win backing from nearly all of the 53 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents, few if any Republicans are expected to join them, leaving them shy of the needed 60 votes.

Democrats are aware of its likely fate. But they also know that according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, women and young people make up disproportionate portions of the 3.3 million people who earned $7.25 or less last year. Both groups traditionally tilt toward Democrats, who would love to lure them to the polls this fall as they fight to retain Senate control.

“It’s a powerful motivator for voters in the Democratic base who are a focal point of Democratic efforts to turn out voters in the midterm elections,” Democratic pollster Geoffrey Garin said of the minimum wage push.

You know, for all of the feigned grief Democrats like to give Republicans for holding “show” votes on repealing ObamaCare and whatever else, they certainly do plenty of that themselves. Even in the unlikely event that the bill makes it through the Senate, it’s probably dead on arrival in the House — but that doesn’t matter, because the sole purpose of this legislation is to hammer their opposition on the entirely misrepresented crisis of “income inequality” as a disease in and of itself rather than a symptom of a larger disease. Republicans, Democrats will say, won’t want to pass this minimum wage bill because they don’t care about poor people, don’t want to protect the middle class, don’t want to give working-class families a chance to get ahead, blah blah blah — when in reality, of course, Republicans simply realize that raising the minimum wage along with the general trend of more big-government, top-down regulation are antithetical to those same goals.

Even beyond the many economically damaging reasons why a minimum-wage hike is not a good idea, the idea of a nationally-determined minimum wage hike is even more ludicrous. How is it an advisable plan to have the same minimum wage in both New York City and small town, Mississippi, where the costs of living are so dramatically different? This is exactly the kind of issue that is tailor-made for federalism (and even municipal determination — looking at you, Seattle), not only because each state can determine what their minimum wage should look like, but so that they can decide if they want to have one at all. Laboratories of democracy in which people and businesses can vote with their feet, and all that:

In the meantime, many states have made moves to raise their own minimum wages over the next year. …

Maryland will raise its wage floor to $8 by Jan. 1, 2015; $8.25 by July 1, 2015; then by 50-cent increments until it hits $10.10 by July 1, 2018.

Minnesota’s $7.25 minimum will increase to $9.50 by 2016 and be indexed to inflation starting in 2018.

In Delaware, the minimum wage will hit $7.75, effective June 1; then it will go to $8.25 by June of 2015.

In West Virginia, the minimum will increase gradually to $8.75 by 2016.

And in Hawaii, legislators just approved a four-step hike from the state’s current wage floor of $7.25 to $10.10 by 2018.


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Coincidentally, the nation’s small businesses prepare to fire a whole lot of peeps.

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Break the unions! No minimum wage! Amnesty!

vlad martel on April 28, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Minnesota’s $7.25 minimum will increase to $9.50 by 2016 and be indexed to inflation starting in 2018.

Except Minnesota’s law actually has not one but two different min wages, one for “small” companies and one for “large” companies.

That’s right, on the basis of apparently number of employees, one company can pay a min wage smaller than the company across the street which has few more employees.

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM

I like the ones that are index to inflation since the same jerks will tell you that there is no inflation, contrary to my grocery bill.

Cindy Munford on April 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Not just small business. And not just industries like hospitality or food either.

I know some nursing homes, especially in rural areas, who would be pummeled by this.

lineholder on April 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM

i made $4.25/hour when i got my first job. today’s equivalent would be $7.16/hour. i see no reason to raise the minimum wage.

dbilly76 on April 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Further proof that the Democrats hate poor people.

22044 on April 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM

In the meantime, many states have made moves to raise their own minimum wages over the next year. …

Maryland will raise its wage floor to $8 by Jan. 1, 2015; $8.25 by July 1, 2015; then by 50-cent increments until it hits $10.10 by July 1, 2018.

Looks like Maryland is working on its own plan to be California-lite in shedding businesses.

Bitter Clinger on April 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Go Ahead. Looking forward to ordering a burger from the BigMac5000.

crrr6 on April 28, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Why stop there? If $10.10 an hour is good, why not $20.20? Or $30.30?

ThePrez on April 28, 2014 at 6:14 PM

I know some nursing homes, especially in rural areas, who would be pummeled by this.

lineholder on April 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Hey, bigot, if some old white rural types have to be sent Home early, that’s the way it is; can’t get to Utopia without a few eggs being broken.

Read a civics book sometime.

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM

People who don’t understand economic manipulating the economy for “good”.

I would say that they don’t understand the negative impacts of their policies, but its more correct to say that they just don’t care what the negative impact will be.

LilyBart on April 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Even my fairly-liberal 21 year old daughter understands this would be a disaster for the economy and that the people who back it are idiots.

LASue on April 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Great! Minimum wage for all those legalized aliens on the pathway to citizenship.

Sounds about right.

elowe on April 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Go Ahead. Looking forward to ordering a burger from the BigMac5000.

crrr6 on April 28, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Yes – I want to order a burger from a robot too!

22044 on April 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

That’s right, on the basis of apparently number of employees, one company can pay a min wage smaller than the company across the street which has few more employees.

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Minimum wage for companies owned by Dem donors will be a buck fifty an hour.

For companies owned by evil people like the Koch Bros, 500 an hour. Plus benefits.

Good Solid B-Plus on April 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Why stop there? If $10.10 an hour is good, why not $20.20? Or $30.30?

ThePrez on April 28, 2014 at 6:14 PM

We really need to get more machvellian with how we deal with these clowns. Pass the “Democrats are Economic Illiterates Act” calling for $100/hr national minimum wage. Send it to the senate and have them explain. After that, pass single payer…legal services. No lawyer should be able to get rich off of my freedom.

crrr6 on April 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Better that the government would force workers to work 12-15 hours a day, to be EQUAL to what a store owner spends on his business. It would ensure that they’d get more money and also get an idea of what the business owner does.

What do you think??

originalpechanga on April 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Further proof that the Democrats hate poor people.

22044 on April 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM

It isn’t about loving or hating anybody. It is all about buying votes to stay in power. With power comes wealth. That is all the politicians want.

tdarrington on April 28, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Why stop there? If $10.10 an hour is good, why not $20.20? Or $30.30?

ThePrez on April 28, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Small steps, my friend. There is always another election to pander.

tdarrington on April 28, 2014 at 6:25 PM

I back a higher minimum wage as an incentive for greater automation in the workforce.

uatu1878 on April 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM

Harry Greed’s minimum wage seems to be around $600,000.

Harry Greed

A Utah businessman is rocking both state and national politics after claiming Utah Attorney General John Swallow helped him broker a deal with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to make a federal investigation into his company quietly disappear, the Salt Lake Tribune reports.

Jeremy Johnson was allegedly told that the price would be $600,000, and claims to have made an initial payment of $250,000 when he was slapped with a federal lawsuit. Now he says he wants his money back.

The Salt Lake Tribune points out that Johnson has no way of knowing whether the funds actually made it to Reid, even if he did make a massive payment to Reid’s alleged intermediary.

The Salt Lake Tribune continues, explaining how the bribe supposedly came to be in 2010:

At the time, Johnson was largely known in Utah as a wealthy philanthropist who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to ferry supplies into Haiti after the devastating 2010 earthquake.

Then, with the FTC investigation continuing, Johnson said Swallow suggested Reid could make problems with regulators go away — for a price.

“I said, ‘OK, what do I need to do?’ He’s like, ‘OK, it costs money,’ ” Johnson said, who claimed Swallow was adamant he make a deal.

“I think he told me, ‘Richard Rawle has a connection with Harry Reid,’ ” Johnson said.

He said Swallow at first wanted $2 million to enlist Reid’s help. But [his company] I Works was no longer profitable and he did not have the money, Johnson said, so they eventually agreed on $300,000 upfront and $300,000 later.

VorDaj on April 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM

These Dems are desperate to talk about anything but Obamacare. Now evil Harry will be able to construct a strawman of this issue. Its a cynical way to manipulate the LIVs into believing the Repubs are anti poor folks.

neyney on April 28, 2014 at 6:28 PM

A completely unserious gesture. No one will ever solve income inequality simply with minimum wages. As an article a few days ago observed, one needs a maximum wage as well. Of course, that kind of half-measure is still not a long-term solution, since it presumes that wages are being set in accordance with the profit system. Eventually, educated professionals need to rationally set wages as is appropriate for the value of the labor bring taken from the worker.

Trotsky on April 28, 2014 at 6:28 PM

If the states are doing it, why does it need to be done at the federal level?

lorien1973 on April 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM

i don’t like the big ads on the side of the page that take up the entire background. they are just too big and annoying.

anyway, republicans have got to get the message out there that a min wage increase = fewer jobs and more expensive products. the thing is, a min wage increase sounds good to many people. they are not thinking about where the extra money comes from. people think business owners just relax all day and sit on piles of money that came from magic money trees.

Sachiko on April 28, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Trotsky on April 28, 2014 at 6:28 PM

I like your ideas, but they seem too moderate. Let’s stop pussyfooting around and get some real income equality: universal national salary of $42,345.98/yr. Whether you want to sit on your arse, be a part time artist or become a Fortune 500 CEO. We’re all equal, so we should all be paid equally.

crrr6 on April 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Heh! You know, I’m really growing rather fond of you, Bishop

lineholder on April 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

More compassion from the Left.

Since 1924, City Gospel Mission has been providing food, shelter and hope for Cincinnati’s homeless population. But the Christian ministry’s mission to house homeless men may be jeopardized because of federal regulations banning religious and gender discrimination.

HUD is throwing a monkey wrench into the works.

A HUD spokesman told me they are investigating the matter and would not be able comment.The spokesman denied religion had anything to do with the controversy. But officials with the City Gospel Mission, the Cincinnati mayor’s office and the offices of U.S. Senators Rob Portman and Sherrod Brown say religion indeed has something to do with the controversy.

“We are a faith-based Christian organization,” Howell continued. “That is crucial to all of our programs. All of our staff adhere to those beliefs and live it. That’s important.”…

The facts are pretty clear in this case. The City Gospel Mission needs to move to a larger facility so it can house more homeless men. And yet the Obama administration is trying to use the Fair Housing Act to put those men back on the streets. That doesn’t seem very fair to me.

Fairness has nothing to do with it.

Thank you, President Obama. crr6 (the original).

INC on April 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM

i made $4.25/hour when i got my first job. today’s equivalent would be $7.16/hour. i see no reason to raise the minimum wage.

dbilly76 on April 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Funny how that works. My first job was $1.45 per hour (yes, it’s been about 40 years ago) which is in the ballpark of $7.50 now.

tru2tx on April 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

“It’s a powerful motivator for voters in the Democratic base who are a focal point of Democratic efforts to turn out voters in the midterm elections,” Democratic pollster Geoffrey Garin said of the minimum wage push.

Unlike The Stupid Party, Democrats do understand politics. You have to give them that.

Wigglesworth on April 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM

i don’t like the big ads on the side of the page that take up the entire background. they are just too big and annoying.

Sachiko on April 28, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Install an ad blocker or

http://internet.wonderhowto.com/how-to/disable-annoying-autoplay-media-chrome-firefox-safari-and-internet-explorer-0139641/

kcewa on April 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Why 10.10 and not 10.00? Is the extra so they can afford a political contribution?

kcewa on April 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Cindy Munford on April 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM

ditto. I just hate going grocery shopping these days. Not to mention seeing the increases floating across, utilities, cable, etc. Nah no inflation at all —Esh

Teenage employment isn’t high enough yet so sure raise the minimum wage artificially instead of under market demand. Ugh.

I wished these ppl were forced to sit through Economics 101 class before going into politics.

CoffeeLover on April 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Its okay though cause joana said Collins was on board with it. Apparently that makes it fine.

Bmore on April 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM

kcewa on April 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM

It probably will result in the person going into a higher tax bracket and they will end up bringing less take-home pay. The political class Ugh.

CoffeeLover on April 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

My first job was hard labor at $20 per week @ 45+ hrs per week. I was glad to get it, as jobs were few and far in between in South Texas because of the glut of illegals. Not complaining. I learned a lot and understood the value of working hard. But, now, I vote for a minimum wage of $1,000 an hour. My SS check could use a boost…

vnvet on April 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I’d recommend the Republican’s to vote for it. Let the minorities lose their jobs because they are now too expensive. Let Big Mac’s cost about 15 dollars a piece. If only enough Republican’s vote for it to pass it, remind the LIV that it was the Democrats that caused their fate.

TulsAmerican on April 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I think minimum wage should be $50 an hour. Why do senate democrats hate poor people?

tcufrog on April 28, 2014 at 6:54 PM

TulsAmerican on April 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Except all those newly unemployed would swell the ranks of the social welfare programs.

lineholder on April 28, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Let ‘em raise the minimum wage, then when all those workers are in the ‘fun-employment line’, Republicans can remind those folks WHO put them there.

GarandFan on April 28, 2014 at 7:04 PM

A national minimum wage? We we don’t have a national cost of living geniuses.

A few months ago, for comparison I took a small rural town near where I grew up (Osawatome Kansas) and looked a home purchase prices.

3 BR 2 BA, 2 car garage, built in the 1970s or 1980s runs around $90,000. I think my dad’s home in the “nice” are of town, in very good condition with a large enough yard for a garden was still well under $150,000 at last appraisal.

Comparable home & yard in D.C.? At least 5 times as much.

They don’t have anywhere near the same “living wage” requirements as they don’t have anywhere near the same cost of living in the first place.

Which means the numbers they’re using are simply stupid. They’re either too high for rural areas, too low for the large coastal cities… or most likely outcome, BOTH.

gekkobear on April 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Those of us living on social security really appreciate the effort Washington, D.C. politicians are putting into raising the cost of living while limiting cost of living adjustments to social security.

In the middle of those January blizzards when the air temperature is twenty below I don’t have to choose between paying the heating bill and buying groceries because my propane supplier has a plan where I pay all year long so I can have both propane and beans and rice.

You’ve got my vote!.

Joseph OHenry on April 28, 2014 at 7:14 PM

A national minimum wage? We we don’t have a national cost of living geniuses.
…….
gekkobear on April 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Good post.

Why do the Dems continue to do things that discourage job growth. Yes libbies higher labor costs do just that. Before you start telling me about days in the past you need to realize that yes some economies deal better with such labor increases but in reality most people buy more when costs/value make sense. I usually buy quality stuff when the price is low. Not when it is high. You?

CW on April 28, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Time to resurrect my call for a federal wage subsidy, paid for by a 17% national sales tax on all food items.

The Schaef on April 28, 2014 at 7:23 PM

My first job as a kid was picking berries at 25¢ per flat. All through high school I delivered the Seattle PI every morning starting at 4:30 am for a sum total of 2¢ for each daily paper, a nickel for Sundays. My first hourly wage job was for $1.25/hr.

Now here is the really weird thing: every single job I’ve had since 1972 I made MORE than the minimum wage, and I got RAISES & promotions at every job I’ve ever held, and I made more at each job than I did at the previous one.

How strange is that?
According to some really really smart people, other folks (good, hard-working people!) spend their entire lives working for minimum wage; in fact raise their hard-working families and in fact go on to retire in hard-working minimum wage positions at McDonalds and Wendy’s.

Apparently starting out in or just after high school at a low-wage job that quickly teaches you enough to merit more money and responsibility is a total anomaly. (I think its a white privilege thing)

As far as I can tell, no one without a Harvard degree ever has the chance to get a better wage based on skill or merit. Instead, they must rely on the kindness and charity of their evil capitalist bosses until at long last BigGov.com must come to the rescue.

If only we’d known this in the past! Prolly could have raised the minimum wage and eliminated poverty long ago.

Wait, what…?

Dolce Far Niente on April 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM

As a small business owner, I don’t even make $10 per hour in this Obama economy, and you want me to pay my employees all $10 per hour that come to work with no experience in anything? What a joke. Big government has killed America. Let the free market decide what employees get paid. So someone working for me that makes $12 per hour, will expect a $3 per hour raise to go with everyone making less than $10 per hour raises? You just put me out of business government. You all should be shot.

F_This on April 28, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Democrats are still missing the point on Wage Hikes. they do nothing long term. Short term people like the hikes until inflation catches up. Employers hate the hikes until inflation catches up. Eventually Inflation will catch up and poor will be poor again.

All this really does is move those who are making $10.10 an hour now to Minimum wage. I would imagine that they wouldn’t be too happy. They get the same votes either way really.

Maybe it is the feel good factor for all the rich folk in the Democrat party.

Dannic on April 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

Coincidentally, the nation’s small businesses prepare to fire a whole lot of peeps.

Bishop on April 28, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Probably, but I wonder how much of that is spite more than economics?

At any rate, keep in mind that the Socialist/Fascist minimum wage ideal is $0.00…you get ration tickets instead based upon your needs decided upon by the Collective. Ayn Rand had ‘em pegged.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 28, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Great! Minimum wage for all those legalized aliens on the pathway to citizenship.

Sounds about right.

elowe

Fear not, for those in charge will make sure there’s another wave of illegals flooding the country who are willing to work for less.

xblade on April 28, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Democrats will do ANYTHING to change the discussion in November away from Obamacare.

furytrader on April 28, 2014 at 7:51 PM

few if any Republicans are expected to join them, leaving them shy of the needed 60 votes.

Bwaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha….Good one, dude.

xblade on April 28, 2014 at 7:55 PM

<blockquote>A completely unserious gesture. No one will ever solve income inequality simply with minimum wages. As an article a few days ago observed, one needs a maximum wage as well. Of course, that kind of half-measure is still not a long-term solution, since it presumes that wages are being set in accordance with the profit system. Eventually, educated professionals need to rationally set wages as is appropriate for the value of the labor bring taken from the worker.

Trotsky on April 28, 2014 at 6:28 PM

HumpBot Salvation on April 28, 2014 at 8:02 PM

A completely unserious gesture. No one will ever solve income inequality simply with minimum wages. As an article a few days ago observed, one needs a maximum wage as well. Of course, that kind of half-measure is still not a long-term solution, since it presumes that wages are being set in accordance with the profit system. Eventually, educated professionals need to rationally set wages as is appropriate for the value of the labor bring taken from the worker.

Trotsky on April 28, 2014 at 6:28 PM

Sure, and the “educated professionals” will make sure that they get the lion’s share…they always do in Socialist systems. It’s all a scam.

All this Socialism that you guys are pushing is doing is to cause major corporations and small/medium businesses to shut down all over the place, thus eliminating choices for the worker and the ability of the worker to have any leverage in gaining better pay and benefits. Also, with less choices, the workers are stuck with abusive bosses and/or companies that they don’t like working for in general.

Only the market can determine what fair wages and fair prices are. Anything else (in both Capitalism and Socialism) is merely rigging the game in order to benefit the house.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 28, 2014 at 8:18 PM

…time to put stock in robotics!

KOOLAID2 on April 28, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Minnesota’s $7.25 minimum will increase to $9.50 by 2016 and be indexed to inflation starting in 2018.

Isn’t indexing the minimum wage to inflation kind of like indexing your grocery buying to your weight?

slickwillie2001 on April 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Honestly, I don’t know why most Dems object so much to fairness, to education/competence and to common sense.

They talk about equality, but will have nothing to do with real equality.

And they don’t really seem to care much about jobs for Americans – especially the young who so desperately need to break into the job force.

Fairness, to the Dems, would dictate that everyone be required to take a pay hike by $2.85/hour – whether they want it or not. But true fairness would dictate that those not wanting a raise from the minimum (or anything below $10.10/hour) not being required to take the raise. If any employee will have to lose his job because his boss can’t afford to pay all those employed before the MW hike, he doesn’t have the option to refuse to be paid the minimum wage and keep his job.

And, of course, fairness would require that everyone be given the same pay raise – from the MW employee to the professional making $50/hour. They say that the extra money in the pocket of the MW earner will stimulate the economy (imagine how much stimulation to the economy when everybody makes more money per hour (!) – but Dems somehow can’t abide their own ideas of how to stimulate the economy, if it isn’t being done by only the poorest wage earners).

Common sense would dictate that more jobs will be sent overseas because it will suddenly make more sense to move the operation to India where they work for a pittance, rather than add another $2.85 per hour to their unskilled work force. Fairness also means being fair to Americans who expect that we can compete fairly with their counterparts in India, and not be priced out of the market.

So much for fairness. So much for common sense.

Those who spent thousands of dollars and years of time educating themselves so that they could achieve skilled status will suddenly be worth almost three dollars an hour less, compared to those who have no skill.

So much for encouraging folks to get an education.

Dems would rather throw more wasted dollars at the Department of Education than to do something that would really promote education. I suppose that “equality” for Dems would be the skilled and the unskilled making the same wage.

oakland on April 28, 2014 at 9:22 PM

FACT: EACH of the last 3 times that Democrats raised the minimum wage (7/2007, 7/2008, & 7/2009), employment dropped.

Look and see what the Employment-Population Ratio was in January 2007 when Democrats took control of Congress and introduced the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007, and compare what it was each time the minimum wage was raised.

That bill was eventually passed as a rider to troop funding (the U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007), and the minimum wage was raised three times in three years, from $5.15 per hour to $7.25 per hour (a more than 40% increase in 3 years).

1) Up $0.70 to $5.85 per hour on 2007-07-24,
2) up $0.70 to $6.55 per hour on 2008-07-24,
3) up $0.70 to $7.25 per hour on 2009-07-24.

And the Employment-Population Ratio dropped from 63.3% in January 2007 to:

62.9% in July 2007,
62.2% in July 2008,
59.3% in July 2009,

and has been
At or BELOW 59.0% for OVER FOUR AND A HALF YEARS (since September 2009).

Now they want to raise the minimum wage by $2.85 to $10.10 per hour … a more than 39% increase, or a more than 96% increase from where it was when the employment-population ratio was 63.4%.

Raising the minimum wage to $10.10 now would drive employment even lower.

ITguy on April 28, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Repeal the 22nd and elect me. I’ll make the minimum wage $1,000,000/hr.

Murphy9 on April 28, 2014 at 9:59 PM

It’s one of those counterintuitive issues. Average conservative says minimum wage bad – will hurt business. Maybe temporarily, but it could help the country. Immigrants value will be reduced quite a bit since a higher minimum wage will bring more people back into the workforce. It defeats the whole purpose of cheap labor.

cimbri on April 28, 2014 at 10:11 PM

Conservatives should reject the very premise of a minimum wage. The minimum wage should be 0. Just look at the places that don’t have a minimum wage and virtually everyone has a job!

nazo311 on April 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

The minimum wage should be 0.
nazo311 on April 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

In other words, there should be no minimum wage requirement at all, unless it is imposed by the employer itself.

The notion of dictating to private concerns what to do with their money is antithetical to freedom.

A federally mandated minimum wage should apply only to federal employees.

oakland on April 29, 2014 at 6:28 AM

There should be no minimum. It’s a job killer, especially for young high school kids who need pocket money instead of mooching off their parents.

I worked at a movie theater back in the 2005-2008 range. When the BUSH wage hike occurred, I witnessed HALF the kids get fired because the movie chain did not want to pay for the wage increase.

Saaaame thing will happen again if this nonsense passes.

———GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAT IDEA MORONS!

TX-96 on April 29, 2014 at 6:40 AM

We really need to get more machvellian with how we deal with these clowns. Pass the “Democrats are Economic Illiterates Act” calling for $100/hr national minimum wage. Send it to the senate and have them explain. After that, pass single payer…legal services. No lawyer should be able to get rich off of my freedom.

crrr6 on April 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

I like your idea. For the sake of L.I.B., and since the Stupid Party is making themselves into an endangered species, they might as well one-up Harry “The Body” Reid and say that he doesn’t care about the poor and propose your idea. Let the people see, once and for all, the laws of economics play out.

Decoski on April 29, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Conservatives should reject the very premise of a minimum wage. The minimum wage should be 0. Just look at the places that don’t have a minimum wage and virtually everyone has a job!

nazo311 on April 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

They need to have the cajones to do this and they need to get out front and EXPLAIN why. While explaining, they need to chide the Democrats for not caring for the poor by showing how a minimum wage will result in fewer jobs. They need to HAMMER this into the public and call for press conferences to call out BY NAME Democrats who want to hurt the poor by imposing min. wage.

Decoski on April 29, 2014 at 9:22 AM

There should be no minimum. It’s a job killer, especially for young high school kids who need pocket money instead of mooching off their parents.

I agree with you on that

I worked at a movie theater back in the 2005-2008 range. When the BUSH wage hike occurred,

You call it “the BUSH wage hike”, but it should more accurately be called “the PELOSI-REID wage hike”. One of the first things that the Democrats did after taking control of the House and Senate on 1/3/2007 was to introduce the “Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007″ on 1/5/2007. Democrats (including Pelosi, Reid, and then-Senators Obama, Biden, Clinton, Kerry, etc.) pushed for and passed this bill.

You can blame Bush for not vetoing it, but since it was attached to a troop funding bill, vetoing it would have meant vetoing funding for our troops in combat. In other words, Democrats all but forced Bush’s hand on approving the DEMOCRAT wage hike.

I witnessed HALF the kids get fired because the movie chain did not want to pay for the wage increase.

Saaaame thing will happen again if this nonsense passes.

———GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAT IDEA MORONS!

TX-96 on April 29, 2014 at 6:40 AM

I agree. Raising the minimum wage will lower employment, just as it has each of the last three times that Democrats raised the minimum wage.

FACT: EACH of the last 3 times that Democrats raised the minimum wage (7/2007, 7/2008, & 7/2009), employment dropped.

Look and see what the Employment-Population Ratio was in January 2007 when Democrats took control of Congress and introduced the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007, and compare what it was each time the minimum wage was raised.

That bill was eventually passed as a rider to troop funding (the U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007), and the minimum wage was raised three times in three years, from $5.15 per hour to $7.25 per hour (a more than 40% increase in 3 years).

1) Up $0.70 to $5.85 per hour on 2007-07-24,
2) up $0.70 to $6.55 per hour on 2008-07-24,
3) up $0.70 to $7.25 per hour on 2009-07-24.

And the Employment-Population Ratio dropped from 63.3% in January 2007 to:

62.9% in July 2007,
62.2% in July 2008,
59.3% in July 2009,

and has been
At or BELOW 59.0% for OVER FOUR AND A HALF YEARS (since September 2009).

Now they want to raise the minimum wage by $2.85 to $10.10 per hour … a more than 39% increase, or a more than 96% increase from where it was when the employment-population ratio was 63.4%.

Raising the minimum wage to $10.10 now would drive employment even lower.

ITguy on April 29, 2014 at 11:34 AM