Video: Obama tells Malaysian presser United States “has work to do” on human rights

posted at 5:01 pm on April 27, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

A trip around Asia entails a lot of pressers for the President, and as formulaic and stodgy as they can become you never know when the star of the show will fire off a memorable line. Caleb Howe notes that, while addressing the press in Kuala Lumpur, Major Garrett asked Barack Obama why, in general, he hadn’t used his diplomatic “tool kit” to do more to influence foreign leaders to improve on human rights, and in specific why he hadn’t taken a meeting with opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, currently in jail for his views and activism. (Or for sodomy, depending who you ask.) His response drew more than a few odd looks.

“I think the Prime Minister is the first to acknowledge that Malaysia’s still got some work to do. Just like the United States, by the way, has some work to do on these issues. Human Rights Watch probably has a list of things they think we should be doing as a government.”

Caleb expresses some surprise, since many assumed that the Apology Tour was over by this point.

This is the first time a sitting President of the United States has made a state visit to Malaysia in almost fifty years. However, the last time the President bad-mouthed the United States in a foreign country is far more recent. From France to Mexico to Afghanistan and Egypt, the President has made a habit of negative assessments of the United States while traveling abroad.

It is especially ironic that a free press was on the list of human rights concerns that President Obama said Malaysia and America need to work on, given the many and increasing reports from White House reporters and the usually sympathetic mainstream press about his administration’s mistreatment and bullying of reporters.

We have some spots where there is probably room for improvement, at least in terms of overcrowding in prisons and citizens being spied on and such, but overall I think most people would agree that the United States has a pretty impressive record on human rights compared to the rest of the planet. In fact, there are areas where some could fairly say that we’re a bit too obsessed with human rights, leading to additional exposure to attacks, both internal and external. But hey… that’s part of the price you pay for living in a mostly free society.

This was an odd choice of words for the President, though. And certainly an odd time and place to break it out.


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The family down the road used to have a donkey. It would bray for no reason at all. So loud, too. Flicka I think her name was.

vityas on April 27, 2014 at 5:04 PM

bending forward….the chicago bathouse way.

renalin on April 27, 2014 at 5:05 PM

I guess he was talking about Mr. Sterling. Our president is a jackass and he doesn’t care who knows it.

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2014 at 5:07 PM

That’s the dog in his belly talking.

TinFin on April 27, 2014 at 5:07 PM

There is NO EQUIVELENCY between human rights in SE Asia and the US. More crapola.
Is Obumbles our President or our Critic-in-Chief anyway?

Whitey Ford on April 27, 2014 at 5:10 PM

It didn’t take Zippy long to get involved in the Donald Sterling thing, did it?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/27/obama-calls-clippers-owners-remarks-vestiges-of-discrimination-pushes-nba-to-address-this/

bw222 on April 27, 2014 at 5:12 PM

This from a man who spends most of his time golfing, vacationing & throwing parties for the rich.

RdLake on April 27, 2014 at 5:14 PM

This from a man who spends most of his time golfing, vacationing & throwing parties for the rich.

RdLake on April 27, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Straight up.

KMC1 on April 27, 2014 at 5:15 PM

We have some spots where there is probably room for improvement

Ed?

corona79 on April 27, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Seriously, what is this dude’s problem?

Robert_Paulson on April 27, 2014 at 5:15 PM

What is this, the “Apology Tour – Far-East Version”?

Another Drew on April 27, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Well Georgia did advance human rights this past week by expanding where you can carry concealed, but yes we do need more work in that area.

rbj on April 27, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Does Obama ever get tired of trolling?

Fallon on April 27, 2014 at 5:18 PM

He went to Asia to get a trade deal and he says what?? What a salesman and what a way to slander millions of Americans. Words can not express my anger and disgust.

Herb on April 27, 2014 at 5:19 PM

In Malaysia?

With it’s wackadoo anti-Semitic and ant-Gay goverment?

Ben Hur on April 27, 2014 at 5:19 PM

How about the human rights of Americans to fully participate in the political process which Obama had the IRS take away from many of them?

How about the human rights of many hundreds of innocent Mexican men, women and children to not be murder by weapons Obama furnished to the drug gangs that murdered them?

How about the human rights of those Americans at Benghazi to not be put in harms way and then be abandoned by their own government.

How about the human rights of millions of people, including some with cancer, and many with children, who had their health insurgence taken away from them by Obama?

How about the human right of a small fry rancher who hasn’t paid some portion of fees to the almighty BLM to not have 200 plus [far more than the 130 sent to Poland by Obama to supposedly protect the Poles from the Russians] very much armed men army, including snipers, descend on him and his families like he was some kind of dangerous terrorist threatening to blow up the world?

What about their human rights Obama, you utter disgrace to humanity?

VorDaj on April 27, 2014 at 5:19 PM

This was an odd choice of words for the President, though.

No, it is not.

Oh, you meant for a REAL President of the United States? Ok, I see what you mean then.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Well, we’re not burning down churches yet like in Malaysia, maybe that’s what he meant?

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2014 at 5:21 PM

998 more days of this.

Brat on April 27, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2014 at 5:19 PM

I should probably be more specific. But I need to go make some spaghetti and meatballs. I’m suddenly starving.

Jazz Shaw on April 27, 2014 at 5:22 PM

He wants to try to build the case that AMNESTY is about human rights.

He used a swearing in ceremony for LEGAL IMMIGRANTS in Korea as a stage to make another push for AMNESTY.

This was just another leg of the same trip, another opportunity, to try to say that AMNESTY afforded to those who willfully shatter federal immigration law is somehow a ‘human rights issue’.

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2014 at 5:25 PM

In the US we are still locking up film makers on false pretext and persecuting citizens in violation of our own constitution, so yeah, we have some things to fix.

Lonetown on April 27, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Obama tells Malaysian presser United States “has work to do” on human rights

It will be almost impossible..

But we will somehow get rid of democrats

Electrongod on April 27, 2014 at 5:26 PM

TREASON.

That’s what it is. This thing or jackass or whatever that’s in the White House has got to go. Impeach the bastard, convict him, and deport him bsck to where he came from along with all the other illegals.

bgibbs1000 on April 27, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Creep. I hate to think how much harm he’s going to do on this trip. Isn’t there some way we can keep him in the White House and out of trouble?

crankyoldlady on April 27, 2014 at 5:30 PM

If I could send President obama back in time to Stalin’s russia, Warsaw pack member nation, or even today to Venezula, Cuba, etc.. I would, maybe then, and I mean MAYBE then he will understand how lucky he is to be in America.

Tired of “America is mean” obama’s

disguted by the elites on April 27, 2014 at 5:31 PM

If the US has a lot to do on Human Rights, then one would wonder why he wouldn’t address the main person responsible. Namely, the person he sees in the mirror every morning

Brock Robamney on April 27, 2014 at 5:33 PM

The ONLY human rights problem we have in the USA are the Dem-progs and their idiot president. Frickin’ unicorn prince. Bend over and squeal – renalin is correct. Bathhouse Barry will leave no insult of America alone on foreign soil until Wooky is once again proud to call herself an “American”.

Gad I don’t believe these pathetic … lefties. I’ll be nice.

I wonder why he didn’t bring up the Clippers while in Malaysia. Or the Core Curriculum. I hear the Malaysians are hot on all that stuff.

Chuck Ef on April 27, 2014 at 5:33 PM

As I said in the headlines, he’s speaking truth to power… Which would be himself… So he’s got some lessons to learn or he’s going to stop himself… Or something like that…

Skywise on April 27, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Dude has an “anti-colonialist” view of the world.

Dinesh D’Souza’s hypothesis accurately explains, even predicts, Soetoro’s mindset and oratory.

aquaviva on April 27, 2014 at 5:35 PM

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2014 at 5:25 PM

And THAT’s a fact, Jack(ie) … That’s the entire game, at this point.

Y’know, if I were one of the pioneers in the ‘fields’ of civil rights, or even the clean environment movement, I’d be REALLY po’d that all of the REAL progress made by ‘us’ is NEVER, ever recognized, anymore !!!
Jeez’o’pete !!!
Bugs me a lot.

pambi on April 27, 2014 at 5:36 PM

When he says crap like this he cedes the moral high ground and puts the US on the same plane as everyone else. So the next time a US president criticizes some horrible human rights record of a foreign regime the response will be to be quiet and clean up your own mess that Obama says you have.

Mark1971 on April 27, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I am just sick and tired of this sanctimonious sh!thead.

He can’t go to any third world tin pot sh!thole of Islamist depravity or corrupt thugocracy without making some equivocation about how our country isn’t really any better.

Just a complete a-hole. He’s a disgrace and an embarrassment.

novaculus on April 27, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Did he mention his “Typical white person Grandmother”?

Mimzey on April 27, 2014 at 5:39 PM

I thought electing The One proved we were passed all this.

LaserBeam on April 27, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Can’t this president for once not bad mouth his own country when he’s abroad. If he hates this country so much why did he run for president? The 1000 days he have left for his presidency can’t come quick enough!

pjmel on April 27, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Rhymes with Bommie Castard.

Don’t bother coming home again, K?

fogw on April 27, 2014 at 5:42 PM

He means all women need to be in burkas. #waronwomen

SouthernGent on April 27, 2014 at 5:43 PM

VorDaj on April 27, 2014 at 5:19 PM

O/T: My comment on QOTD was not referring to your post, which I thought was excellent.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2014 at 5:44 PM

bending forward….the chicago bathouse way.

renalin on April 27, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Obama …

“Butt-Boy for the World”

or

“America’s First Sissy President”

Jaibones on April 27, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Mr. Obama, please tell me, if millions of Mexicans have a human right to invade America why don’t millions of Russians have a human right to invade Ukraine, and France and Germany for that matter, and to invade Imperial DC City too?

VorDaj on April 27, 2014 at 5:45 PM

I swear! If I was still active duty, I would be court-martialed for blatant contempt of the Prez. This guy is such a f@ckin’ bonehead it makes my head hurt!

NavyMustang on April 27, 2014 at 5:45 PM

No, no, no …

“America’s First Sophomore President”

There.

Jaibones on April 27, 2014 at 5:48 PM

O/T: My comment on QOTD was not referring to your post, which I thought was excellent.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Now you tell me after I’ve completely forgotten what I said.

VorDaj on April 27, 2014 at 5:49 PM

I am not going to be LECTURED by a Kenyan islamist about America.

ConstantineXI on April 27, 2014 at 5:50 PM

I wish for a president who actually likes his own country. Is that too much to ask for?

thebrokenrattle on April 27, 2014 at 5:50 PM

This is disgusting. We all know the US is perfect because it was created in God’s image and preordained when Jesus wrote the Bible.

Simmer down. All he did was say we still had issues, which is undeniably true.

Lots of extreme emotional regurgitation here of late.

antisense on April 27, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Antisense. You could have gone with no sense, numbskull, idiot, fool, liberal, democrat, but you went with antisense. What will it take to yank your short hairs?

TinFin on April 27, 2014 at 5:54 PM

I’m ashamed that he is my President..I’m ashamed millions of Americans voted for him again…voted for him in the first place..He truly hates this country and what it stands for…He may of been born here, may being the key word, but he’s no American to me

sadsushi on April 27, 2014 at 5:55 PM

If I were a jaded, cynical and suspicious person, I would think our Campaigner-in-Chief is running for UN Secretary-General. Or, Prime Minister of Earth as he sees it.

But, I don’t think a citizen of the Big Five is eligible.

Darn Hawaiian birth record!

Maybe The One can get the Nobel Prize committee to persuade the World Court that prohibition is unconstitutional. The Champ is an expert on what’s wrong with laws, ya know.

LaserBeam on April 27, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Blackhawks win big and move on!

Go ‘Hawks.

Jaibones on April 27, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Does Obama ever get tired of trolling?

Fallon on April 27, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Never. He’s a community agitator through and through.

The Rogue Tomato on April 27, 2014 at 5:57 PM

This is disgusting. We all know the US is perfect because it was created in God’s image and preordained when Jesus wrote the Bible.

Simmer down. All he did was say we still had issues, which is undeniably true.

Lots of extreme emotional regurgitation here of late.

antisense on April 27, 2014 at 5:51 PM

You do realize he’s in charge of the country he’s complaining about… right? He’s the one who continued to spy on other nations. HE’S the one who thinks and continues to think that our private email conversations should be captured, recorded and scanned… without a warrant. HE’S the one who ran a fake gun running campaign that got people killed so he could build up political capital to get gun laws passed.

And yet HE will tell the world that he will not enforce laws or reinterpret laws at his own whim for whatever political purpose du juor he feels like doing that day.

And here he is saying that the United States of America still has human rights issues that THEY (not “we”, THEY) have work on.

Yeah, I agree what he said was very disgusting.

Skywise on April 27, 2014 at 5:58 PM

What an awful man he is. Repugnant.

Rational Thought on April 27, 2014 at 5:59 PM

antisense on April 27, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Tell us what mechanism for addressing human rights issues, which were not in place before this guy got elected, he’s instituted?

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2014 at 5:59 PM

When he says crap like this he cedes the moral high ground and puts the US on the same plane as everyone else.

Mark1971 on April 27, 2014 at 5:37 PM

That’s the point.

The Rogue Tomato on April 27, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Now you tell me after I’ve completely forgotten what I said.

VorDaj on April 27, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Heh.

Jaibones on April 27, 2014 at 5:59 PM

I fully expect Obama to go to the UN after serving as president. It will become his alternate power base and if the Clintons found Jimmy Carter tiresome when they were president before, they are really going to hate Obama.

BushyGreen on April 27, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Sick to f*cking death of this piece of shit excuse for a President.

Midas on April 27, 2014 at 6:01 PM

BushyGreen on April 27, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Yes indeedy. You will not be able to escape him. He will be everywhere, more than he is now. ESPN, MSNBC, ET, CNN, BET, etc. And Moochelle too.

Brat on April 27, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Don’t worry, Iran is on the UN Women’s Rights Commission, I’m sure they’ll have some pointers for us.

Fenris on April 27, 2014 at 6:07 PM

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.

But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.

A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague. –Cicero

opunmind on April 27, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Now you tell me after I’ve completely forgotten what I said.

VorDaj on April 27, 2014 at 5:49 PM

You posted an article by J.E.Dyer

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2014 at 6:09 PM

This is disgusting. We all know the US is perfect because it was created in God’s image and preordained when Jesus wrote the Bible.

Simmer down. All he did was say we still had issues, which is undeniably true.

Lots of extreme emotional regurgitation here of late.

antisense on April 27, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Stuff your strawman, tool. Nobody was arguing that the U.S. is perfect. But its human rights record is a lot better than Malaysia’s, or Kenya’s, or Indonesia’s, and it would be nice if the fool who calls himself the President of the United States would occasionally acknowledge that fact, instead of never missing an opportunity to disparage the country that has done so much for the lousy ingrate and his mooching illegal alien relatives.

AZCoyote on April 27, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Typical for our America hating Marxist president. Never mind that for all practical purpose Malaysia is a one party state, where opposition candidates arejl jailed on trumped up charges. Another popular method the ruling party uses is civil.law that makes it very easy to sue opposition party members for slander and bankrupting them with huge civil judgements by a very political partisan judicial system. I guess Malaysia is indeed Obama’s camelot.

simkeith on April 27, 2014 at 6:14 PM

How did the photo of the Indonesian flag show up one way behind the Indonesian Prime Minister and another way behind Obama? What’s going on here?

As for violation of rights, remember the American kid who got caned (?) a few years ago for acting like a juvenile delinquent?

As for human rights violations, Dems Obama and Holder are at the top of the list – they disobey the law which causes major pain for millions but they don’t violate human rights.

God help us – we’ll need one heck of a leader to counter all the damage this one man (and his cronies and backers) has/have done. Just deplorable.

MN J on April 27, 2014 at 6:14 PM

The 50+ million legally butchered unborn American babies would probably agree with him, especially the ones who were butchered by those paid with taxpayer dollars.

pannw on April 27, 2014 at 6:22 PM

WE CAN CERTAINLY IMPROVE ON PICKING A PRESIDENT!

GarandFan on April 27, 2014 at 6:26 PM

WE CAN CERTAINLY IMPROVE ON PICKING A PRESIDENT!

GarandFan on April 27, 2014 at 6:26 PM

We can also do a lot more to eliminate stolen elections.

slickwillie2001 on April 27, 2014 at 6:47 PM

This was an odd choice of words for the President, though. And certainly an odd time and place to break it out.

No, it wasn’t.

BobMbx on April 27, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Video: Obama tells Malaysian presser United States “has work to do” on human rights solidly entrenching Fascism

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 27, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Who cares about human rights when the planes run on time?

Ooops!

LaserBeam on April 27, 2014 at 6:54 PM

The President is absolutely right.

I had to pay $2.50 for a Sunday newspaper today. So much for a “free” press!

Dolce Far Niente on April 27, 2014 at 7:03 PM

A president who runs guns to drug cartels, spies on his own citizens, uses armed bureaucracies to terrorize same, dreams of “de-developing” the world, wants our allies destroyed, states that his phone and pen trump laws and the Constitution, and uses drones to kill people worldwide without giving much of a damn whether they’re even the right people…

…thinks our “human rights problem” is that we don’t want illegal immigrants voting for his party in elections.

Sorry, brudda.

Our “human rights problem” is YOU.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 27, 2014 at 7:03 PM

So far, his apologies to the world have accomplished nothing except the Middle East in flames, Russia invasions, and crackpot dictators like the Norks flexing their muscles.

He will never learn.

PattyJ on April 27, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Just Obama taking a crap on the best country in human history. Yes, your county has a few issues but the USA are worse.

jaywemm on April 27, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Thanks Obama for once again getting on foreign soil and blunderbutting about human rights. By the way, did you mention how you have trashed the greatest healthcare system in the world by taking away our rights to choose a doctor, a hospital, and affordable healthcare? Did you mention that you have taken away our individual privacy rights through the NRA? Did you mention that you have taken away the rights of our children and grandchildren to live in a debt free society by drowning their futures with taxation and an unsustainable debt? Did you mention that under your control, the department of justice and the IRS have been so corrupted that human rights are totally causing fear and suspicion to a majority of human Americans? There you go Obama. Maybe the US does have a human rights problem.

mobydutch on April 27, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Confirmed, nobody is madder than Obama.

Happy Nomad on April 27, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Oddly, our human rights deficit gets worse every day.

WryTrvllr on April 27, 2014 at 7:41 PM

What an a-hole…

dpduq on April 27, 2014 at 7:41 PM

The damnable Asian Cirque De Gaffe Tour Extraordinaire!

Sherman1864 on April 27, 2014 at 7:44 PM

A phucking moron of the grandest scale. Luckily, everyone has tuned him out as we monitor the countdown clock. Even fat thighs bangs in her face, and his two supposed spawns have tuned out at this point.

msupertas on April 27, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Even when Barack Hussain Obama leaves the presidency, I do think that we will be forced to hear crap from this guy for many years. He won’t be satisfied with community organizer; he will be the self-appointed worldwide organizer. It is a sickening thought. Organizer means troublemaker.

mobydutch on April 27, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Note to next Presidential candidate … Stress love of country !
With a valid history of doing so !

PLEASE !!!

pambi on April 27, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Did he mention his “Typical white person Grandmother”?

Mimzey on April 27, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Beat me to it.

viking01 on April 27, 2014 at 8:02 PM

..wonder what kinds of dog he has been eating there

KOOLAID2 on April 27, 2014 at 8:21 PM

This was an odd choice of words for the President, though. And certainly an odd time and place to break it out.

I find it very odd that Jazz Shaw finds Obama’s choice of words/time/place to be odd. It’s actually completely in character for Obama. The statement may be impolitic, unwise, and too revealing of Obama’s beliefs, but Obama remains safe in the knowledge that the statement will quickly disappear from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and most of the media.

pilsener on April 27, 2014 at 8:37 PM

I demand to see Barry mom jean’s college transcripts…. I’d be surprised if his IQ is high enough for him to control Slobber’n & Drool’n

roflmmfao

donabernathy on April 27, 2014 at 9:11 PM

I vacillate between Deep Anger(!!) and serious depression but mostly I’m just glad my father never had to see the US in such astounding and unnecessary decline.

Even if he did have to die to miss it.

Tard on April 27, 2014 at 9:41 PM

pilsener on April 27, 2014 at 8:37 PM

He means that it’s odd for THE PRESIDENT to say these things; not odd for OBAMA to say these things. It’s a little confusing, I know, but that’s what he’s getting at.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2014 at 9:44 PM

pambi on April 27, 2014 at 8:00 PM

I have a few more requests;

•Use language that indicates that you think the United States is an exceptional place.
•Tell people that, even with flaws, the US is still a great place to live.
•Learn proper flag and anthem etiquette, and practice.
•Check your pronunciations of place names with a local.
•Have your speeches proofed by someone who knows and loves our history.
•Figure out how to order a drink, and a sandwich, in a workingman’s bar.

massrighty on April 27, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Come Lord Jesus, come soon…..

crosshugger on April 27, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Unconscious, Bigoted, Bloviating Jackass!

williamg on April 27, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Note to next Presidential candidate … Stress love of country !
With a valid history of doing so !

PLEASE !!!

pambi on April 27, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Ya mean Like THIS?…../a>

williamg on April 27, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Let’s See If This Works……

williamg on April 27, 2014 at 10:18 PM

“If you have nothing nice to say, say it! The media’s still dry humpin’ my leg”!

- Augustus Zero: 4-27-14

StubbornGreenBurros on April 27, 2014 at 10:19 PM

“I think the Prime Minister is the first to acknowledge that Malaysia’s still got some work to do. Just like the United States, by the way, has some work to do on these issues. Human Rights Watch probably has a list of things they think we should be doing as a government.”

If only — if only — Obama had the power to do something about it.

Wait, I thought he just needed to know whose ass to kick…..

There Goes the Neighborhood on April 28, 2014 at 1:48 AM

For once this guy is right. The administration has failed to protect voting rights for miliatry personnel serving overseas. They have failed to protect first amendment rights for christian organizations and individuals. They have failed to prevent undue government prosecution of the political opposition. I think the first step is for the current occupant of the white house to resign immediately.

warmairfan on April 28, 2014 at 1:54 AM

Face it, we have a President who views America the way a foreigner would. Not to mention the way he likes to pretend that he’s a downtrodden community agitator instead of the leader of the free world.
Disgusting.

bigGwillie on April 28, 2014 at 3:18 AM

The “man” who was given everything from his silver spoon to his House of Saud financed degrees… Stupid bastard. He represents nothing.

Key West Reader on April 28, 2014 at 4:28 AM

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